Opposition Leader Sussan Ley made an appearance on Kyle and Jackie O a few days ago.

We covered a lot of ground. From submarines to dating apps and how we are going to do things differently after our election defeat.

The show began with an ad for rooftop solar panels, but I pushed through. No doubt many of you are curious to hear what the head of the conservative movement thinks about world affairs at one of the most dangerous moments in modern history.

This is how the show began:

I have been in Parliament 25 years … it is the next step, in a way … I like that the fact that being the first female Leader of the Liberal Party sends a signal to women that we care deeply about what they think and many of them didn’t vote for us at the last election.

I am being very upfront about that. Many Australians didn’t support us. Actually, we were smashed.

When asked where they went wrong, Ms Ley replied that they were undergoing an honest and transparent review.

It’s important that we acknowledge what went wrong and do things differently going forward … I say we’re going to have a fresh approach.

The hosts pressed her further on the female vote.

I think women want to see the things that matter in their lives reflected back at them.

So, having been a busy mum dropping the kids at childcare, trying to do part-time study, trying to manage the home farm business thinking, how can I ever get any of this right? And just feeling that sense of exhaustion and frustration … I think a lot of women identify with that and I certainly do and I want us to have policies that respect and reflect how modern Australia is but I am not jumping to conclusions either because we need to actually ask people what they are feeling … our policies are up for review, but our values are not.

Then Kyle points out that city folk are all scared of nuclear power as a way of prompting a question about the policy future.

We are looking at everything to do with energy. We are looking at everything to do with tax. We believe Australians should pay less tax, not more tax.

Which was a non-answer and swift side-step to taxation. Ms Ley tried to keep the conversation on tax and aspiration.

This is a little concerning given energy is one of the most important topics.

Following this, Ms Ley was back on the promotional speaking tour and the focus group that involves listening with humility.

Then there is a long diversion about Russian spies and claimable business items.

Eventually, they ask about the Pentagon review of the Aukus deal. She agreed that Australia should up its defence spending and voiced concern about China.

It’s all about relationships and we are pushing, because that is our job as the Opposition to hold the government to account, the Prime Minister to step up and build that relationship with Donald Trump because he works, the President, on personal relationships.

She was then asked if Kevin Rudd was the right person to be the Ambassador, keeping in mind that Peter Dutton dutifully supported Rudd in his position despite Rudd’s inflammatory comments about Donald Trump prior to his re-election to the Presidency.

Some say he is, some say he isn’t.

I’m sure he’s working very hard but this is really a leader-to-leader issue.

Is there some kind of rule that Opposition Leaders aren’t allowed to criticise an Ambassador that might be jeopardising one of the most important relationships in Australian history?

Then they move into the more important topic of wedding invites to Albanese’s nuptials, Sussan Ley’s dating prospects, and the offering of sexy blokes in Parliament. After this, they make comments about how she looks for her age and all the nauseating fallout you might expect from that line of questioning.

To polish it off, they fact-check her about the numerology thing which she claims never happened and was based off a flippant answer she gave once.

It annoyed my parents.

They snuck a final comment at the end about youth crime, which is the Queensland LNP’s biggest win and Victoria Labor’s biggest weakness. She was directly asked if immigrants engaging in these machete fights should go home, Ms Ley replied:

Well, if you have breached the conditions of your visa or you don’t demonstrate that you are going to be a good citizen of Australia, that has to be considered very carefully. Of course it does.

Which is not quite the same as agreeing that immigrants that wield machetes should be sent back.

There you have it, the most recent interview with the Leader of the Opposition, although I can’t say I am much closer to understanding the party’s Net Zero policy or their general geopolitical agenda.