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Think Americans are angry now? Wait until Hillary’s in charge

The second President Clinton will be dull. That doesn’t mean she’ll be restful

21 May 2016

9:00 AM

21 May 2016

9:00 AM

Predicting what might happen in a Donald Trump presidency is easy. Day 1: A fabulous, really great inaugural, the best ever, with amazing entertainment by fabulous, top people. Day 2: War with Iran. Day 3: War with North Korea. Day 4: Mexico builds a wall to keep out Americans.

But let’s not go there. (Please.) Let us instead conjure what four years of a Hillary Clinton administration might bring. After all, she is, despite the media-led panic about Trump’s improving polls, still strong favourite to become the 45th President of the United States. So what would Hillary’s America look like?

Well, we could start with some predictions about the legislative fate of, say, the carried-interest loophole, student-loan relief, the Volcker Rule imposing ‘risk fees’ on banks and a realistic yet audacious guess as to whether she’ll sign the Commodity Futures Modernisation Act. But then you would stop reading this and turn to Taki’s column. So let’s not.

The difficulty with limning a template of a Hillary Clinton administration is that her existing template is unlimnable. That is, fuzzy. It’s not so much a template as a palimpsest. Mrs Clinton’s policy positions are rarely fixed points. They have a tendency to get up and wander about, whether it’s the Iraq war vote, or the trade deal she was so in favour of until she wasn’t, or the minimum wage of $12 or $15 an hour, or the Benghazi attack being the fault of that asshole in California streaming that totally inappropriate Islamophobic video, or the private emails with the nuclear launch codes and George Clooney’s recipe for penne arrabiata. If Mrs Clinton had an escutcheon, its motto would be ‘Whatever’ (Quisquis? You Brits all know Latin, right?) The catalogue of Clinton policy books has more positions than the Kamasutra. As Groucho Marx said, ‘I’ve got principles. And if you don’t like them, I’ve got others.’

This morphing and shapeshifting has allowed her to survive over the years. The catch is that, while getting away with stuff may sustain you in power, it won’t endear you to the general public. Mrs C has been front and centre on the national stage now for nearly a quarter-century. Result: 60 per cent of Americans find her ‘untrustworthy’ and ‘dishonest’. A triumph. But she is hardly unique. Richard Nixon, aka ‘Tricky Dick’, was on the national stage for 20 years before he made it all the way. And that turned out fine.

In the early 1990s, an era that may come to be called ‘Clinton 1’, Hillary and Bill were on the White House ramparts hurling rocks and pouring hot tar on reporters and investigators assailing them with pitchforks and torches about the Whitewater controversy over their property dealings. (Or was it the mysterious suicide of Vince Foster? The White House Travel Office scandal? Quisquis. Point is: blamelessness has been the one Clintonian constant.)

Their defiant — indeed, adamantine — lawyerly denials and refusals to cooperate in any way with the investigation prompted a friend of theirs to remark (anonymously): ‘They’re being so big-firm about this.’ I’m not a lawyer, so I stared at the phrase. Yes, of course: a reference to the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock, where Mrs Clinton had been a partner while her husband was servicing — serving — the people of Arkansas.

Big-firm Mrs Clinton has remained ever since. Majestically. She’s a practising Methodist. One wonders: does she believe in original sin? If Adam and Eve had kept the Rose Law Firm on retainer, what a different cosmos we would inhabit.

This much one might confidently predict: whatever fresh hell befalls during her four years in office, it’s unlikely we will hear from the presidential lips any variation on the standard presidential mea culpa, ‘Mistakes were made.’ (Note the passive voice.) The Clinton solar system is a solipsism. Clintons do not make mistakes. People who work for the Clintons make mistakes.

Mrs Clinton has her admirers, no argument. But if that 60 per cent figure is accurate, she’s going to need more than her faithful hard core to put her over the top in November. Fortunately, many — indeed most — Republicans are resistant to the charms of the Mussolini of Fifth Avenue. Confronted with a Hobson’s Choice from Hell in November, they will hold their noses and vote for her. Or write in Ronald Reagan. And then get stinking drunk and go home and kick the dog.

Of the many difficulties facing Mrs Clinton once she achieves her life’s ambition is a fact that even her most ardent devotees might admit to, if you promised them anon-ymity, voice-altering software and witness protection: she is, well, dull. She is, to para-phrase Falstaff, not only dull herself, but the cause of dullness in others, especially the minions who warble on TV about how wonderful she is. Maybe she is wonderful, but hearing about her wonderfulness has become, 24 years later, excruciating.

Mrs Clinton is many things — intelligent, accomplished, hard-working, quisquis — but she is not herself interesting, except as a historical phenomenon — an American Evita, minus the charisma and the balcony. This is likely to make four years of her feel interminable. One year into her presidency, Stephen Hawking may have to revise his theory of time and posit that it is now slowing down. Or has stopped altogether.

I don’t think I’m going out on a limb when I postulate that Mrs Clinton is not an exciting persona. If she were, it would be her, not a 74-year-old rumpled lefty with Paleo-Marxist cuckoo ideas, attracting massive crowds of young people.

Comrade Sanders’s message may be flawed (rich people bad; government control of the economy good), but it is at least a message. Mrs Clinton has no message other than ‘I am so owed.’

Barring a national calamity — which no one hopes for — her presidency is unlikely to make for good spectating. How many Hillary Clinton speeches have you watched all the way to ‘And God bless the United States of America’?

American presidents are not constitutionally required to be exciting, or interesting, though it helps. Calvin Coolidge, whose name is usually adduced today as a punchline, was one of our most capable chief executives. He was famously — triumphantly — dull.

In our own time, we’ve had two champion snooze-inducers in the White House: Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter. Both were good, decent men. Ford was dull in an endearing way, Carter in an annoying way. Ford fell down aeroplane steps, which always makes a person likable. The most interesting thing he ever said was that Poles didn’t feel controlled by the commies in Moscow. Whoa! Dad’s off his meds! Carter was a Baptist teetotaller (deeply boring) who carried his own garment bag and lectured us for being depressed, when the reason we were depressed was because he was president.

How Mrs Clinton’s dullness will play out across four years is… let’s not spend too much time on that. I stipulate for the record that I am not making a Trojan Horse argument for a President Trump. Hitler was interesting, too — up to a point.

Mrs Clinton may well inherit — the mot seems juste — a White House at war with a Republican House and Senate. This will make getting any legislation other than designating Tuesday National Cauliflower Day impossible.

Barack Obama came into office wafting on zephyrs of adoring oohs and aahs, trailing angel-dust and proclaiming the dawn of a new golden era of nonpartisan enlightenment — a new shining Washington upon a hill. In less fancy terms: he promised to change the way Washington does business. That turned out well too.

Hillary’s path to the White House will be very different — no allegorical tableau painting in lush Maxfield Parrish tones: ‘Lady Liberty as White House Doorman, Ushering In A Glorious New Age’. Hers will be a muddy crawl across a blasted, body-strewn battlefield not to the sound of trumpets but to the rat-a-tat of machine-guns and an ambush outta nowhere by a Brooklyn accent shouting: ‘I didn’t take money from Goldman Sachs! Why don’t you release the transcripts of your quarter-million-dollar speech?’ Mrs C may inherit the White House as Bill’s legatee, but no one would deny that she’s worked harder than the noble Stakhanov to claim her inheritance.

Who’d predict for her a landslide victory in November? (Don’t ask me — I was confidently predicting that Trump would implode last July.) Assuming that it will be a Trump-Clinton race, she can only make it to the White House front door with a margin of victory provided by nose-holding Republicans and independents opting for what they deem the lesser of two evils.

The kids who were showing up in great numbers feeling the Bern won’t be on a float at her inaugural parade. The furious Trump-ians will boo and toss beer cans at her limousine from the balcony of his new hotel on Pennsylvania Avenue. As for the morally spent Republicans who put her over the top, they’ll be at home, grumbling and switching the channel. Not much of a mandate.

Mrs Clinton’s relations with a Republican Congress will be inch-by-inch trench warfare. In her favour, she is a veteran of those corridors and knows them well. And she has Maggie Thatcher-level energy and work ethic.

But when she places her hand on the Bible to take the oath of office, Mrs C will be one year shy of her 70th birthday. Success, or just making it across the next finish line in 2020, will require every erg of her energy. And should things not go swimmingly, a lot of that big-firm attitude.

Safe bet-wise: the first Mrs President is going to be very, very good for the Clinton Foundation. As for America, not so much. A lot has been written about how fed up people are with the arrogance and corruption of Washington. That’s why so many are voting for Donald Trump. But if you think Americans are angry now, just wait until they suffer a full term of Clinton 2.

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  • Rik

    Oh Dear,in an article about Crooked Hillary,a person who if she wins may be the first person to take office wearing an orange prison jumpsuit you still find plenty of space for the leftard sneers and smears about Trump

  • Jojje 3000

    Americans wisely almost always alternate presidents, that is after 8 years of Democrats it’s now time for Republicans. Exceptions are only for former vice presidents which Hilary is not.

  • Trailblazer10

    The author is trying to be funny. The situation is very serious. It is a battle for survival.

    Ann Coulter sums it up here:
    The useful idiot presenter keeps trying to interrupt with strawmen “you are a country of immigrants” and other cultural marxist bull as always practised by the Bolshevik Broadcasting Corp.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obXQ0IzIjs8

    • Sue Smith

      You’re right on the money here!!!!

    • There is a great deal of truth, common sense and majority Western public opinion just below the rhetoric.
      I am tempted to think if I were American, that I would vote for the Donald.
      Clinton – well, pure establishment machine politician.

    • Leon Wolfeson

      So the fantasy you have… as you seriously see commies in your mind… as you complain about the Other…

  • grimm

    Another candidate who hung around for years convinced that the US president’s job should naturally fall to him (if only the electorate would cooperate) was Richard Nixon.

    • This is known as “guilt be association”. You take a bad person from history and then try to form a non-existent link to someone you don’t like.

      This is a childish debating technique.

      • WTF

        When have you ever debated, you always find an excuse to avoid it !

  • victor67

    In terms of foreign policy in general crooked Hillary is a far greater threat than The Donald.
    Her B52 Liberalism coupled with being an AIPAC and Saudi wind up doll would mean the possibility of the ME going up in flames.

    • Nelly Nomates

      I’ll vote Trump, but is the ME is so tranquil currently?

      • victor67

        No, but given her record Clinton could make it a whole lot worse.
        What is interesting about Trump if you put aside the rhetoric is his attitude to China and his threat to impose tarifs on Chinese imports.

        If he follows through on this he is in effect going to war with corporate America as China is where there production is. His appeal to the white male losers in the globalization circus would demand he stuck to this policy.
        Interesting times is it not.

        • Trailblazer10

          “White male losers”. You have bought into the cultural marxist lies.

          Black folk have suffered most. Look at the data, illegitimacy rates, unemployment, food stamps,welfare dependency, Black on Black violence, race hucksters, drugs,etc.

          The evil left push out lies “left behind” and simlar bulls**t. If I shot you in the leg and left you bleeding in the street, is that your fault for being “left behind” ?

          Americans have been betrayed by the evil left and the corporatists, the useful idiots are too indoctrinated to understand.

          • victor67

            I think you are deluded if you believe the left have had any influence in the US since Rosevelt under pressure from organized Labour was compelled to introduce the new deal.

            You refer to the Clinton/Obama variety of “feel your pain: pseudo liberalism which is just a front for neo-liberal economics,that serves corporate power and impoverishes the lower and now the middle class.
            In terms of race I would say Black America has suffered most under this dysfunctional and corrupt system.
            This is how you explain the Trump .

          • Trailblazer10

            The US is being destroyed by marxism.So is Western Europe.

          • victor67

            Perhaps you should read some of the esteemed Jewish German philosopher and then you would understand the current political system operating in the US or Western Europe is a million miles away from what he envisaged.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Magical Marxism, in your head!

          • Cyril Sneer

            Ah yes the lefty denies the lefties are in anyway lefty.

            Unfortunately the lefties are voting democrat and the continuation of neo-liberal nuttery.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            The right are magically leftist, you say, as you note Neo-Liberalism is too far left for you…

          • Cyril Sneer

            He’s a lefty that thinks nothing of exercising his legendary lefty bigotry against whites.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So your bigotry, which you blame on him… in your PC…

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you blame the left for things not being worse, check, as you blame the left which is so small in America, and then turn around and talk about the dominant Corporatist… you’re plain an idiot looking for an easy target.

        • Cyril Sneer

          Would you ever say “black male losers”, I doubt you ever would.

          Racially derogatory language directed at whites is fine for you. I guess that makes you a bigot. Well done. *slow clap*

          Oh and I flagged your post.

          • victor67

            It had just taken white middle America a bit longer to realise they have been played by politicians of both parties and they have been well and truly sha××ted by corporate America.
            What they do with that anger and who they blame is another matter.

          • victor67

            You misinterpreted the term.
            Many have lost in the globalization circus including white male blue collar workers.
            I was not referring to them as losers per se but losers as poor blacks and hispanics are also losers.
            As I said in my other post what they do with that anger and who the blame explains Trump.
            My target is not white working class people but corporate America and Finance based capitalism who regard them and other groups as little more than an expense to be squeezed as much as possible.
            Your prejudice and myopia is now apparent.

  • Sue Smith

    Dillary, how are you going to keep your dog on the porch – even though it is, by now, probably well and truly de-fanged (as it were)? Amazing how a man will stay at home when his power tool is no longer working properly!! Utterly transparent. As if women aren’t onto this!!!!!!!!!!!

    • WTF

      I believe he bought a mobility scooter just in case he needs to chase interns around the WH.

  • James Chilton

    Hillary would like to be all things to all women – a bit like Bill before he began to look like the picture of Dorian Gray.

  • zanzamander

    So just to be clear, a lying, cheating, borderline criminal and a career politician with airs and graces of a Disney Land royalty would be bad for America, but Trump would be even worse?

    Yeah, got it.

    • SalmondFishing

      Hitlery will be in charge of the managing decline project. Trump would defo start another of these wars based on fun facts (on his own this time). Anyone object to this view?

  • Owen_Morgan

    There is nothing “wise” about that. You could devise an algorithm to vote for you.

  • Jimmy Anderson

    I prefer quicquid or quidquid for “whatever”, quisquis more “whoever”

    • Mr Grumpy

      Yep. Or “quidcumque”?

  • Radford_NG

    Many of us regard Ms.Clinton as a dangerous war-monger who supports the neo-con hawks who control the US State Dept.;and who lead by the nose the Kenyan village idiot and the hapless dolt who preceded him in The White House.

    • rtj1211

      Of course, you would attain the office befitting residing in the Oval Place without being controlled by the Washington mafia, wouldn’t you??

      If it were so easy, those more intelligent than you would have achieved it years ago……

  • davidblameron

    Her Election looks severely in doubt, Putin has said there could be war if she becomes President.

    • Cyril Sneer

      There will most certainly be war if she becomes President. I don’t know if that will be with Russia, unlikely thank god, but she’ll look to start one or two no doubt about that.

      If she becomes President you can essentially write off the lives of about a million people.

    • “Her Election looks severely in doubt,…” This is known by the technical term of “wishful thinking”.

      • WTF

        Level pegging with Trump right now, check the polls and his are still rising whilst hers are falling. Inconvenient facts not your lame opinions !

  • right1_left1

    Is the article saying that Hilary ‘mispeaks’ a lot ?
    She did admit to having done that at least once.

  • R Fairless

    The rise to fame and fortune and political power by Hillary and ‘Bill’ Clinton is quite remarkable. Perhaps one shouldn’t really be surprised at the success of such people who are so morally flawed. Surely no-one in their right senses would vote for either were they to be aware of their deficiencies. Perhaps all such leaders are similarly unsuitable but manage one way or another to deceive the public or maybe the public just don’t care.
    If one needs to know more about Hillary Clinton an authoritative source is still available, namely, that knowledgeable pundit, the late Christopher Hitchens who was an authority on American history and politics and its practictioners. There are quite a large number of radio and television interviews still available on uTube and elsewhere to the benefit of those interested.

    • Yorkieeye

      I wonder if the Clintons ever wonder just how they’ve got away with it?

      • R Fairless

        They probably feel a deep sense of entitlement!

  • Central power

    The Clintons. The supporters of Islam in Europe. Please remember the bombing of Christian Serbia.Please remember the persecution of Christian Serbs in now “free” Kosovo.

    • Bonkim

      The Serbs did not deserve any better.

    • Leon Wolfeson

      So you wanted the Serbs to slaughter freely, check.

  • Bonkim

    Give me President Trump any day.

    • You can have him – please bury him somewhere deep.

      • Nelly Nomates

        Like the Oval office?

        • You’re not very good at these come-backs are you?

          • WTF

            Speaks the voice of obfuscation and avoidance !

      • wibbling

        Why are you so frightened of successful, intelligent people?

        • Napoleon & Hitler were successful, intelligent people and they were truly frightening people who killed millions between them.

          • goodsoldier

            Merkel is on her way, your idol.

        • WTF

          He’s a sad pathetic figure who creates false images of himself to make make up for his lack of self respect or accomplishments. You’ll notice he never divulges any background information about himself and is the complete opposite of Trump. Sure, Trump can be brash but you know what you’re getting with him, but with recluses pretending to be all seeing wizards, you know it’s nothing but a big fraud of a scare little ‘boy’ pretending to be something he’s not.

  • Polly Radical

    Do we really believe that lifelong Republicans will ‘hold their noses’ and vote for a deranged socialist such as Clinton?

  • katie

    Well there you go, if Hillary is in fact in want of a ‘message’, a raison d’etre, then her starting point will surely be “***k you Christopher Buckley”, and she can build from there

  • Yorkieeye

    I’ve always found Obama terribly dull too. Because he is partly black ( the only interesting thing about him) it is not permissible to find him boring. But he is.

    • Zanderz

      And entirely ineffectual.

    • ajcb

      Wouldn’t agree — I like Obama’s rhetoric and his logic is pleasing. And Obama is nothing like the public figures who literally cannot be attentively followed from the subject in their first sentence through to the verb, like Mario Draghi (!!) or poor old Gordon Brown.

      • PeterK10

        Interesting…you are a fan of ghetto slang wrapped around empty words.

        • ajcb

          It’s all relative.

      • thammond

        Logic? Not sure I’ve heard that speech.

    • There is a Chinese curse “may you live in interesting times”….dull is good.

      • Yorkieeye

        But not dull people

        • I would prefer to spend the evening in the pub with Donald but for God sake don’t let him near the Presidency.

          Dull people make better leaders. I’m happy to have less wars.

      • wibbling

        high taxes, oppressive social policies, division and arrogance? No, dull is not good. Merit, reward and achievement as good things.

        • “division and arrogance” is certainly a Trump tactic.

          • goodsoldier

            Sounds like Obama, precisely.

          • You’re not very good at these come-backs are you.

          • goodsoldier

            Dorks don’t like them, that’s true.

          • Point proven.

          • WTF

            Here’s a hint, in future premise all your posts with “In my opinion……” and then you wont have so many epic fails and look the fool all the time. You really shouldn’t leave your ‘comfort zone of ability’ and demonstrate to everyone else your failings !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            And yet you claim absolutes, right, as you blame him for your issues.

          • WTF

            Nope, I post facts backed up with proof, that impotent tw** just opines !
            You’re the one with issues that need to be addressed along with impotent wizard although I think yours are worse !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you claim being wrong is a fact, I see, as you want to “address” my having different views than yours, utterly intolerable to your anti-democratic agenda.

          • WTF

            Deflection alert !

            Post facts and prove me wrong “right” !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Yes, I agree you’re deflecting and whining rather than dealing with my post.

          • WTF

            Deflection Alert 2 !

            You can’t reply to non factual posts, man up and post some facts for a change !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Yes, you’re deflecting again.

            And I can reply to whatever post I want. As I have, given your posts are fact-free and simply filled with your whining. And lol, “man up” from a Fash like you with that image…

          • WTF

            Wimp Alert !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            You’re a wimp? I see.

          • WTF

            When the original material from you is cr** there’s very little to work on.

          • Point proven.

          • WTF

            Fact alert –

            First ever, as they say in computer speak, cr** in, cr** out and with all your c**, its not worth our time to try and comment on it.

          • WTF

            After 7 years of Obama, race relations are at an all time low, the country is more divided and black on black gun crime in major cities has been ignored by this man. That’s why they call him the “Divider in Chief” !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you ignore why things are bad…check. As you personalities want to pass on your title…

          • WTF

            “right” !!!!

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Yes, your Orwellian views are expected.

          • WTF

            “right” !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            …So you make a non-answer.

      • SunnyD

        I was right – you ARE an old man. That ain’t no Chinese curse – you paid far too much attention to Kennedy in the Sixties ….

      • WTF

        Failure alert –

        The saying is apocryphal, and no actual Chinese source has ever been produced.

        Just to assist you – apocryphal means a statement of doubtful authenticity although widely being circulated as true, much like all of your posts !

    • rtj1211

      Until it is permissible to find a black person, a yellow person, a half-black person, a Jew, a Muslim, a woman and a homosexual utterly dull and boring then discrimination is still rife.

      It says nothing about his skin colour that you find him boring. You should judge him as Nelson Mandela wished black people to be judged: not on the colours of their skin but on the contents of their characters…….

      • Yorkieeye

        Exactly. I refer to his colour because that’s what seems to get the world excited about him.

      • Kennybhoy

        That was Dr King not Nelson Mandela…

      • goodsoldier

        That’s why Obama is dull. He was merely lucky; he has no character or talent or merit, none-whatsoever, only luck.

  • jeffersonian

    Crooked Hillary for President? God help us.

    • The alternative is a lot lot worse.

      • jeffersonian

        Is it?

      • wibbling

        Only for you. For everyone else it will be a success.

        • …except for the poor working class, sick and businesses that export.

          • Wh0_Is_J0hn_Galt

            Trump is a billionaire businessman, you think he will risk a single cent of his business or the hundreds of thousands of people he employs? Dream on. The biggest risk for exporting businesses is once again Clinton.

          • Trump is a triumph of ego over common sense.

          • goodsoldier

            If you like Common Sense, you must love Nigel Farage and UKIP.

          • I smile and shake my head while having another sip of Merlot.

          • goodsoldier

            Ha ha–you really are a Dork, but probably you are well loved by your mother and that is good.

          • WTF

            Probably one of those who never gets off the teat !

          • WTF

            Thats what winos slug back isn’t it, maybe that explains your epic fails !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Really, where can I buy that bank’s Music?

            (Deliberate spelling)

          • WTF

            Looks like you’re on your own here, a majority of one !

          • Only on discussion web sites. I’m here because this is where the bigots, racists, socialists, UKIPpers, Trump-ites, conspiracy theorists, etc are.

            They don’t like their arguments being destroyed.

          • WTF

            Distortion alert –

            Still waiting for you to destroy arguments as you cant do it with opinion as you need facts. Something you’ve never used !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Actually, there’s good evidence he’s worth a lot less than he claims.

            And of course like any capitalist, as long as he can get the money elsewhere the business and especially workers are replaceable.

          • WTF

            Your opinion, no factual evidence !

          • I’m not sure you can make such a statement as you have been unable to distinguish between opinions and facts in the past.

          • WTF

            Deflection Alert –

            Everyone here views your posts as opinions as they are never backed up with facts. We aren’t the ones with a problem, you are.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Your personalities… right.

          • WTF

            Finally – we’re on your “right” response, what kept you, we all miss your “right” interjections in your post !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Your personalities are odd.

          • WTF

            Coming from a Yoda speaker who uses “right” in all seriousness unlike my mocking !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            You’re confused. You’re the one who uses your speech, as you decry English and say being odd is “mocking”.

          • WTF

            Psychological projection Alert 2 !

            Odd doesn’t even come close to describing your posts !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Yes, I agree you’re odd and projecting at me as you alert people to yourself.

          • wibbling

            Ah yes, because only the Left can help such people. You’ll notice a pattern that when the Left force more government on people things get worse. If you want to make people richer, happier and healthier you look Right. The Left create misery, poverty and unemployment. It is all they have ever done.

          • “You’ll notice a pattern that when the Left force more government on people things get worse.” Just because you say something that doesn’t make it true.

            “If you want to make people richer, happier and healthier you look Right.” And you get the banking crisis.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you blame the left for the right’s actions…check.

            As you say that the poor in America, versus the Poor in the Nordics…as you claim blackwhite…

      • WTF

        Why, you don’t live in America and I suspect HS have you on their no fly list anyway !

        • I have lived in California (Santa Barbara) and spend lots of time in North Carolina (RTP).

          You have to be there to understand what they have been going through with the rise of China.

          • WTF

            Conflation alert !

            How long was your vacation to Disneyland for, 2 weeks, perhaps it was the Magic Kingdom that made you what your are. I’m married to an American, having traveled back and forth from the UK for 35+ years to all of the USA and having got a green card, I would argue I’m somewhat more qualified to discuss the whole of America,east, west and mid than some one visiting a liberal commune that is fiscally bust. As for North Carolina, they’re in a pitched battle with Obama over transgender rights like Obama thinks that’s the most important issues in the country right at this moment.

            Apple and others caused job losses in the west coast.

          • “How long was your vacation to Disneyland for,…”
            Wizard Rule 77: People that are losing an argument will often try to discredit the person they are arguing with. (In football this tactic is known as “Playing The Man”)

            “I would argue I’m somewhat more qualified” Your posts would disprove this.

            “As for North Carolina, they’re in a pitched battle with Obama…” This is known by the technical term of a “Gross Exaggeration”.

            “You can’t have spent very long there…” You’d be wrong then.

            “Apple and others caused job losses in the west coast because of outsourcing to China.” I guess SuperTrump (not to be confused with the group Supertramp who are much more useful members of society) would stop companies moving jobs offshore. In the short term this would protect some low paid jobs but cause US industry to become uncompetitive. Therefore in the medium term the loss of exports would destroy more jobs than it ever saved.
            .

          • WTF

            Spin, Conflation & Lie Alert !

            When facts are absent only the man is left to play. For example how long were you in California as you’ve already demonstrated your lack of knowledge over the American election process so it can’t have been that long.

            My posts about the American primaries have not been disputed by anyone as being incorrect in technical terms or wrong in factual terms as to whats happening right now. I offered you an opportunity to debate them but coward that you are, you declined and yet come back here today and claim that I know less than you about America. So how long did you stay at Disneyland and North Carolina, was it 4 weeks or perhaps you were an illegal immigrant and don’t want to declare it here. You can’t even post facts you should know about so why should anyone take any notice of you in areas above your low skill level.

            As for Gross Exaggeration that’s never been a “technical term”

            As for Trump and his business, just how can he out-source ‘manufacture’ of his real estate to China, does he hire a big boat and float the buildings back to America ? For goodness sakes, he hires local labor not Chinese labor like Apple does. I didn’t know he exported buildings so where are his export losses ?

            You’re all over the place when you try these posts and you really need to stick to a single point at a time to avoid confusing yourself. So how do the primaries work then, are you going to ‘correct’ me or admit you don’t know !

            “If your opponent is an idiot, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant and dig his own hole.”

  • jennybloggs

    I think the Clintons see themselves as a dynasty. 10 – 15 years from now Chelsea will be running for POTUS, then, maybe her husband – forty years from now Chelsea’s kids will be looking for election.

    • That is for the electorate to decide.

      • goodsoldier

        Clinton doesn’t think so. Nor does Debbie Washerwoman Schultz.

        • It doesn’t matter what they think – the electorate are King.

          • goodsoldier

            Agreed.

          • WTF

            Currently its the RNC & DNC who have the final say in nominee for POTUS.

            Put that dunce hat on again and stand in the corner for 1 hour this time !

      • WTF

        Wrong again, another epic fail –

        You don’t understand how the delegate system works in the USA as the primaries decide who is nominated for POTUS and its delegates as well as the electorate who decide the nominee.

        Put the dunce hat on and stand in the corner for 30 minutes !

        • “…another epic fail…”
          Wizard Rule 76: Only people who have clearly lost an argument feel the need to explicitly state that they have won.

          • WTF

            Another deflection alert !

            So how does the primary selection process work then. Supply the answer and I’ll give you marks out of 10 ?

    • rtj1211

      My judgement of the lone Clinton offspring is that she is smart enough to have educated herself on the back of her parents’ careers and is quite happy getting pretty darn rich in the background…….

  • SunnyD

    does anyone know why there seems to be no btl comments allowed under those articles about Boris?

    for a minute there, I thought the Spectator was going the way of the Telegraph (breathes sigh of relief)

    • Pretty_Polly

      Because it’s fine for Boris to write rude limericks about other people but not fine for other people to write rude limericks about Boris.

      Next..

      • JohnInCambridge

        Since Boris is overwhelmingly the British politician most able to take a joke directed at himself it takes a real mental midget to imply otherwise.

        • Pretty_Polly

          Well if that was true Boris would insist that comments were open..

          • thammond

            Yeah, it’s Boris deciding that stuff.

          • Pretty_Polly

            As Nick Cohen says..

            ‘Boris Johnson is a former editor of this newspaper, and as such has the right to be treated with a courtesy Spectator journalists do not normally extend to politicians’.

            So obviously Boris could ask for comments to be open and reasonably expect his wishes to be the deciding factor.

          • rtj1211

            Unless he is likely to return to become the boss of Spectator journalists in the future, I don’t see why he deserves anything. He should be held to account in just as tough ways as everyone else…….

        • Jambo25

          Boris is a valueless (In all senses of the word.) charlatan.

          • JohnInCambridge

            If Boris was involved in the decision to allow comments it is possible he would want to avoid giving people like you [I assume you are a person and not a robot programmed by Seumus Milne] any opportunity to vent their flatus. On the other hand I doubt if he concerns himself at all with persons sectionable under the Mental Health Acts… waste of time really, even for me.

          • Jambo25

            Another right wing loon who can only deal in insults. Is this the favoured or sole demographic which now reads the Spectator? You are obviously a BoJo fanboy so you might have the answer to this. Why did Johnson go all Brexity on the rest of us when it was always assumed (Rightly, I believe) that he was a natural ‘Remain’ supporter? It wasn’t for anything as vulgar as positioning himself for the post-Cameron succession? Surely not. He is a value and conviction free zone dedicated to the advancement of Boris. Nothing else.

          • rtj1211

            I think you do need to see a psychiatrist about your delusions that any human being whose views you disagree with must be a robot programmed by a Guardianista. If you’d been reading these columns for the past 4 years, you’d know that Jambo25 is a Scot with strong views on Scotland’s relationship with England……

      • rtj1211

        I wrote one for the Guardian 4 years ago:

        Our Mayor of London’s called Boris.
        He has a sharp eye for a Doris.
        He wouldn’t say owt
        what his Mayorship’s about
        So he bunged Levy funds to buy Lloris.

        Not rude enough to get censored I guess…..

      • SunnyD

        lol, you’re funny – as if banning comments on a couple of articles would stop anyone from penning rude lyrics about BoJo

  • Freddythreepwood

    “But let’s not go there. (Please.)”

    So, why did you?

    • Because the media like to frighten people with the thoughts of a Trump presidency.

      • wibbling

        There is nothing frightening about Trump. Well, there is for the Left and political classes who fear efficient, small, simple government. Everyone else will breathe a sigh of relief.

        • The US is no longer the only big-dog in the World which has caused a lot of soul searching. Support for Trump is a reaction to this and his megaphone diplomacy will only make matters worse.

          • goodsoldier

            Thanks to Obama, it is temporarily a Chihuahua and the U.S. army on level with the Canine core. Trump can change the U.S. back into a big Golden Retreiver.

          • “Thanks to Obama,…” Hardly. The US hasn’t gone down, rather other large countries have discovered capitalism and are coming up. China will overtake the US. India won’t be far behind.

            The US is in for decades of felling sorry for itself (just like the UK when it finally realised it didn’t have an Empire any more) but it will come out the other side.

          • WTF

            Provided Brexit happens and Trump gets in, both countries can recover.

            “first lay plans which will ensure victory, and then lead your army to battle; if you will not begin with stratagem but rely on brute strength alone, victory will no longer be assured”

          • The US and UK don’t need to recover. As I’ve already explained to you it is others coming up rather than the US going down.

          • WTF

            You opined, you didn’t supply a mini ‘thesis’ based on fact.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Ah, so recovery from being 1st world countries…

          • WTF

            I’m cautiously optimistic it will start next year if Trump gets in and Brexit happens,.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you’re “cautiously optimistic” about the start of the fall…. I see.

          • WTF

            Why not, better to think positively about the future than be a self obsessed doom merchant like yourself “right” !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            I’m not like you and your projection of your views to me, Mr. Right.

            I don’t see smashing economies for the sake of isolationism to be a good thing.

          • WTF

            Deflection Alert 3 !

            Your words not mine !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            I agree you’re deflecting.
            Your claim that I am writing your words is a classic.

          • WTF

            Wrong, epic fail AGAIN – the top three issues that concern Americans are
            affordable healthcare, the economy and national security. I’ve never
            before come across such a lazy fraud as you when it comes to posting
            lies !

            http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/top-15-issues-americans-worried/story?id=29758744

          • Whatever you or they might say it is the fact slowly eating away at them that they can no longer just demand other countries do what they say (build a wall for instance).

            Their confidence is shot and Trump is a reaction to that.

            lie (n) – something WTF doesn’t agree with
            fact (n) – an opinion that WTF does agree with

          • WTF

            Deflection alert !!!

          • Leon Wolfeson

            And they’re the three things Trump has made plain must fall, so…

          • WTF

            How so, any facts “check” !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you deny his policies, Mr. Check.

          • WTF

            Deflection Alert !

            Waiting for your answer.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Yes, I see your deflection, as you reject my post.

          • WTF

            I don’t reject your post but its your turn to answer my previous question.

            “And they’re the three things Trump has made plain must fall, so…” your claim, what are the facts ?

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you do reject my post. As you ignore the facts about Trump’s expressed policies.

          • WTF

            Ignorance Alert !

            I still haven’t heard anything from you regarding what his policies actually are (backed up with facts) so how can I comment on your post. Perhaps when you can actually tell us all what you think his policies are we can debate the points.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            You’re ignorant, I agree, as you deny his campaigns policies.
            You can check his campaign like anyone else.

            And your personalities think that “debating” the very things you’re too lazy to even look up and indeed deny… LMAO.

          • WTF

            Reticence Alert !

            So what are his polices ? Do you discuss them at a group session of your kindergarten attendance !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            You’re a liar, you’re quite forward in kid-hating there.

            No surprise you think Jews like me are child-like given your fash views, of course.
            As you continue to deny his policies, no reading them for you!

          • WTF

            So you don’t know what his policies are then !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            I don’t have your lack of knowledge, no.
            Hence my post.

          • WTF

            Your absence of facts describes your ignorance –

            Now, Do you believe that for certain jobs such as voluntary work with
            children or in healthcare to foster or adopt a child, people should be
            required to submit themselves to Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS)
            checks as required by UK law ? yes or no !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you deny facts, check. As you blame yourself.

            My answer stands, and I’m pleased the DBS blocks kids from being adopted by Fash like you.

          • WTF

            Never applied to adopt or foster a kid as I had two of my own. Were you denied adoption as any DBS officer reading your projection rants would be sure to block any attempts over fears of insanity.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Two crimes of your own? Well. As you show your ignorance of the DBS system, and scream that facts are projection… and “UR INSANE, JEW”.

          • WTF

            Breakdown Alert !

          • wibbling

            He is simply the better candidate for America.

          • Electing someone whose policy is to annoy as many minority groups as possible and play to the crowd is a silly thing to do.

      • goodsoldier

        Trump is cheering and cheerful. Hillary looks like a resident of Dante’s inferno.

        • “cheering and cheerful” Sounds like Santa.

          However we would find the parcels we open on Christmas Day wouldn’t contain what Santa had promised us.

          • goodsoldier

            We are having a difficult morning, aren’t we?

        • WTF

          The expression is “ridden hard and put away wet” but I doubt there are any takers these days !

  • Chinese curse – May you have an “interesting” President.

    • Kennybhoy

      Judaeo-Christian benediction – “May God deny you peace but grant you glory…”

    • WTF

      Trump – “Know the enemy and know yourself; in a hundred battles you will never
      be in peril.

      GOP – When you are ignorant of the enemy, but know yourself, your
      chances of winning or losing are equal.

      Clinton – If ignorant both of your enemy
      and yourself, you are certain in every battle to be in peril.”

  • Trump has rattled his sabre so much that I think the ends dropped off.

    • wibbling

      He’s also the best candidate for America. With even more Left wing tax and waste professional politicians the US will fail, as all forced socialist economies do.

      • “He’s also the best candidate for America….” …if you want to upset other countries so much that US business suffers.

        • WTF

          Opinion not facts, don’t you practice what you preach ?

        • wibbling

          You know that Donald Trump is a successful businessman, don’t you? Is Obama? Has any other president been?

    • WTF

      Your flaccid wand came off a long time ago.

  • Prof Raus

    Might this not be a good time for the US to consider replacing the practice of electing short term monarchs with a parliamentary democracy?

    • rtj1211

      You can’t be the Greatest Democracy in the World if the Parliament is democratically capable of actually doing anything……..

  • Santiago

    “Mrs Clinton is many things — intelligent, accomplished, hard-working, quisquis — but she is not herself interesting, except as a historical phenomenon — an American Evita, minus the charisma and the balcony.”

    This entire piece is one of the best dissections of the Clinton character and mind that I have read by Christopher Buckley. I have not laughed so hard over breakfast in my life.

  • ajcb

    Brilliant and hilarious.

    (One challenge/quibble. For extra GCSE points, define in the following sentence the word “worked”: “Mrs C may inherit the White House as Bill’s legatee, but no one would deny that she’s worked harder than the noble Stakhanov to claim her inheritance.”
    Worked? She WAS GIVEN everything she got including name-recognition (from Bill), the carpet-bagged senatorship for a state she neither studied, worked, nor lived in (from D.P. Moynihan, who threw in his corner office in the Capitol — a first for a junior senator), the SecState job (a keep-your-enemies-closer favour from Obama). And the SecState gig was VIPing through foreign airports to collect countries (it’s in the emails!), while the US Embassy flunkies sweep the path before you, like Olympic curlers. If anybody gets the Stakhanovite prize, it’s them.)

  • Roger Hudson

    The thought of Bill as ‘First Gentelman’ is surely enough to make people vote for Trump.
    Hillary’s Middle East wars may be even worse than under Bush/Obama, she must not win, where is the FBI?

  • jackinnj

    Calvin Coolidge was confronted (accosted) by a woman who told him: “I just bet my friend that I could get you to say more than two words to me,” His response “You lose”. Coolidge was, in fact, a great orator in college.

  • Jacobi

    Everyone is getting angry these days, and the Americans are no exception.

    Hilary, poor worn out, nominal first woman president, will probably get in. She will do what her controllers tell her to whatever that is. I doubt if that will include starting a war with the Russian Federation, in spite of the occasional bluster. After all the controllers just want to sell the weapons and make lots more money. Nuclear fall-out on their Caribbean mansions from a vaporised New York would spoil the lovely sunshine down there.

    Trump, in or out, is a ghost that will not now go away. He is the ordinary American voter, whoever that is, who has been used, manipulated but essentially ignored for too long now and is fed up.

    He has his equivalent here in UK and elsewhere in Europe.

  • Skyeward

    She’s a technocrat and will do just fine. Nothing original can ever be said or written about her as it’s already been said/written many times over. A sub-set of Americans are angry and of those, the educated young won’t be angry for much longer as they experience the benefits of our now tight job market. As for the rest, well, it’s not like making it in America takes some super secret knowledge. Learn and achieve in school, college, grad school, then move for good job opportunities, keep your skills fresh and save money along the way.

    • right1_left1

      Quote:. A sub-set of Americans are angry and of those, the educated young
      won’t be angry for much longer as they experience the benefits of our
      now tight job market.

      What do you mean by this ?
      As educated young cant get a job commensurate with their evaluation of themselves they will become …
      what exactly ?

      • Skyeward

        Lots of jobs – not enough candidates which means the millennials can now ask for better pay, the benefits they value (half days on Friday, that type of thing), student loan repayment by employers, etc.

        • Numpty McTumshie

          This is becoming apparent, jot just in America but also here. However the ones shaped like beach balls who can’t read or write or speak intelligibly are being left behind. Funny that.

  • Eddie Clever

    Hillary will likely be elected if Trump will not mention Vince Foster witness Patrick Knowlton.
    http://www.fbicover-up.com/index.html

    • rtj1211

      The question is what, exactly they covered up. Not much to worry Hillary unless the order to kill him came from her husband or he turned a blind eye knowingly to others doing it instead……..

  • Augustus

    It has become a media habit to say that Clinton will beat Trump in the race to the White House, but people have underestimated Trump all along. The reality of the consequences of letting Hillary Clinton become the next U.S. President might be sinking in with a lot of voters. Trump may not be the perfect conservative, but a win for Hillary will open the door for a further slide down the path of socialism in four years time. Four years ago disgust and resentment of the political establishment was still in its infancy, now it’s fully blown, and not only in America.

    • WTF

      You’re right and he isn’t the perfect conservative and although he might lean that way he’s certainly not in bed with the conservatives in the Republican party. He’s in tune with the public.

  • Marathon-Youth

    So what would America look like under “President Hillary Clinton”?
    Simple
    SECESSION!!!!. That alternative is already quite mature and growing. A “President” Hillary Clinton would be a President who sees a good deal of America SECEDE with the help of outside forces such as Russia and the UN.

  • DoubleDegreeHolders4Trump

    Trump will win. It might be a little scary, but you’ll need to deal with it.

    • Numpty McTumshie

      Denial and self-deluion. It’s what the rabid right does best.

  • Didn’t make it past the first paragraph…sorry.

  • davidofkent

    It would seem likely that a president Hillary would be unable to carry any legislation since the two houses will be full of republicans who appear to hate her. Donald Trump would probably become a lot less strident if elected and would be able to get his legislation through Congress. I doubt that he will start WW3, but I know a man who would.

    • Pretty_Polly

      If you’re referring to Uncle Vlad, it’s most unlikely that he would start WW3 because he’s got billions in Panama and no doubt has every intention of spending it..

  • submandave

    “Mrs Clinton is many things … accomplished”

    Such as? It seems that her chief accomplishments are being elected Senator in New York, being appointed Secretary of State, and almost winning her party’s nomination. I have yet to see a cogent argument that she actually produced positive results in either of the two government jobs she has already held.

    The surety that HRC is “accomplished” seems just as much assumed knowledge as BHO being highly intelligent was eight years ago. Just like in 2008 I keep hearing a word repeated, but I fail to see any actual evidence the word is accurately being applied.

    • rtj1211

      It’s a rare person who actually DOES achieve anything in American politics, as it is designed to be a gridlock to stop anyone actually interfering with the elite’s power behind the scenes……

      • submandave

        I see someone was spending more time in Introduction to Illuminati than in Civics. Checks and balances and, yes, “gridlock” were designed into the Constitution to prevent the federal government from acting unless it was the clear desire of the States and the people. This ideal, however, has been put askew a bit by things like the huge federal bureaucracy that rolls along without (and sometimes in spite of) legislative action and the Seventeenth Amendment that removed the States as sovereign parties to the federal government. The one area in which an individual does have greatest impact is in the area of foreign policy as a part of the Executive, and we can all see HRC’s “accomplishments” there (the laughable “reset” with Russia; failure to negotiate a workable SOFA with Iraq, contributing to the rise of ISIS; a limp and feckless position on the ascendancy of the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt; secret negotiations with Iran leading to the terrible and unenforceable nuclear weapons deal debacle; championing the violent overthrow of Qaddafi, a man who voluntarily gave up his WMD program, leading to the rise of ISIS and Al Qaeda in Libya, culminating on the murder of her Ambassador and the failed State we see today, not to mention the lies and cover-up of the event to minimize damage during BHO’s reelection, …).

      • Terenc Blakely

        “to stop anyone actually interfering with the elite’s power behind the scenes……”

        So you’d prefer elites dictating what they want by decree?….. kinda like what we’re seeing now with Obama. You do realize what happened in the 1930s when many thought that the only way to ‘get things done’ was with a strongman taking charge? Chalk it up to another, ‘history is doomed to repeat itself’.

  • bashg

    She’s so intelligent that she couldn’t pass the the DC Bar.

  • bashg

    this is the same Buckley that fell in love with BHO?

  • Robert Brand

    Is there anyone who honestly cares what T. Coddington Van Vorhees VII thinks?

    • rtj1211

      Who in the heck’s name is TCVV VII for gawd’s sake?!

  • RDaneel

    Gotta remember Chris “The Cuck” Buckley voted for Obama. He is also a #nevertrump’er. Chris completely misses the cold fact that we just don’t give flip what his spoiled, elitist a$$ thinks. I for one just wish him obscurity.

    • Numpty McTumshie

      P*ss off back to America there’s a good chap. If you want to come here then learn to speak English.

      • RDaneel

        Hey, McNumba$$, we have room for another holiday on our calender. Call it “Kick The British Butts Again” or “This Time You Are Out Of Luck” day.

  • Joe Mondy

    Buckley is an ok but inconsistent fiction writer. The fact that he goes to the Trump = Hilter thing in the first few seconds of the podcast demonstrates his days of Little Green Men cleverness have ended.

  • T Gould

    If the Americans have to take two terms of Hillary, they really will elect Hitler. And not just some blustery business man playing the anti-PC establishment tune really really well that people call Hitler because they don’t know what else to do.

  • Terenc Blakely

    “Mrs Clinton is many things — intelligent, accomplished….”

    Citation? What exactly are Hillary’s accomplishments besides staying married to a serial rapist for political gain? From what I’ve seen if you want something totally effed up, put Hillary in charge. Examples of such are; Hillarycare, Arab Spring (including the horror of Benghazi) and the infamous ‘reset’ with Russia.

    • WTF

      There’s been many Q&A’s on American news asking that same question from students at Universities and members of the public in major cities for the past 2 months, we’re still waiting for a single answer other than emails and Benghazi lies.

  • Brian B

    The only thing Christopher inherited from his father was the vocabulary, and even then one always has the sense he’s back and forth to the thesaurus just as often as he is to the liquor cabinet to fortify his prose when he’s writing one of these crashing bores he specializes in.

    • Wizard Rule 77: People that are losing an argument will often try to discredit the person they are arguing with. (In football this tactic is known as “Playing The Man”)

      • WTF

        Why don’t you follow your own wizard rules ?

      • goodsoldier

        You are what is called a Dork.

        • Wizard Rule 83: An Insult is the last refuge of the bigot.

          • WTF

            “the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.” And boy, you certainly provide many opportunities !

      • WTF

        “Unhappy is the fate of one who tries to win his battles and never succeeds in
        his attacks for the
        result is waste of time and general stagnation.” Next try !

  • seangrainger

    Ah palimpsest that well-known word that in English means slate. (Which for us tabloid subs has the huge merit of being half as long.)

    • CRSM

      No, it means a document that has been written on top of an earlier partially erased one. Meaning that, with care, some of the earlier text can be deciphered.
      Probably applicable in Clinton’s case.

      • seangrainger

        My oh my — obviously I didn’t trowel on my sarcasm thickly enough for all.

    • Major Plonquer

      And here was I thinking a palimpsest was a type of dinosaur – which is very apt for Bill and Wilma Clinton. Or was that the Flintstones? I always get the two mixed up.

  • LizardLizard

    Yes, but (in an alternate universe) a Hillary White House would be enlivened by the antics of the increasingly senile First Husband chasing interns around the West Wing. And you say Hillary has her admirers? Most of them are on the gravy train, that is all. Follow the $$$. No but seriously, folks, she is going to lose. The Democrat party will rue the day Debbie W-the-S initially imagined Hillary could win. And Bill? With a new generation learning about what used to be called Bill’s “indiscretions” and calling them what they really were–helloooooo Juanita!–his legacy will soon be below sea level. Stay tuned folks, this could be fun.

    • Sue Smith

      Chasing interns around the White House is all Bill is ever likely to be able to do going forward. Have you seen him lately?

      • WTF

        He will need a mobility scooter ?

    • WTF

      Its even more concerning as there’s a rumor going around that if Clinton got in she’ll appoint Bill as chief inspector for girls locker rooms to ensure LGBT compliance !

  • John Andrews

    I wish George W Bush had been too dull to go to war in Iraq. Presidents should be pragmatic and sensible, not exciting.

    • Good man – you understand the dangers of a loud-mouth with a large ego.

      • WTF

        And Trump condemned going to war, kinda spoils your argument.

  • WTF

    Wishful thinking over the polls Mr. Buckley ? You need a reality check !

    Just like Brexit and remain, there are no certainties over who will be the next POTUS but the liberals have been writing Trump off for the last 9 months as a joke, a fool, a threat, a sexual abuser even worse than Bill Clinton and despite the army of liberals like yourselves spinning, lying and attacking him, here he still is, last man standing on the Rep side.

    Even more telling is just the last week where we’ve seen George Sorros’s anti-Trump thugs finally getting bored of Trump and attacking Clinton whilst backing Saunders. The republican party is coming together as predicted, the Democrat party is fracturing, un-predicted as Bernie wont give up and wants to drag Clinton to fight for every inch to win. Who would have thought we’d see Debbie Wasserman Schultz & Hillary embroiled in the Democrat bust up in Vegas where Bernie is claiming the rules are rigged against him. Bernie has Trump to thank for that as he was the first to highlight the delegate system that distorts voters wishes in the Republican party but it then turned out the Democrat party system is far more corrupt.

    As for the main stream liberal media, they’re helping Trump on every expose with articles like the New York Slime which was repudiated immediately by women when two jerk off reporters claimed they were abused by Trump. Then today, we have a Black Lives Matter idiot which the Washington Post used for anti-Trump articles getting caught bang to rights by the police for human trafficking and pimping of under age girls. The MSM certainly picks some ‘winners’ for their articles against Trump.

    In fact there’s even spoof articles now doing the rounds aimed at the MSM suggesting these bastions of the free press have an expose on Trumps detention in 5th grade and Bill Clinton going around the country checking out LGBT rest rooms for young girls/boys. Facebook has been caught out on its flawed (biased) trending algorithm and despite excuses from Zuckerberg, the trending expose isn’t even trending on FB due to the way its programmed. I guess he doesn’t want his own story trending on FB ! Meanwhile its gone all serious in the Trump camp camp over possible SCOTUS selection and todays likely terrorist attack as Trump can now pretty much ignore MSM trivia while its being mocked by all and sundry.

    But back to reality, the fat lady hasn’t sung yet and there’s all to play for but right now the polls are neck and neck with Trump rising and Clinton falling and nothing like the fantasy article above.

    Sorry Mr. Buckley, fancy a wager on who’ll be POTUS come November ?

    • The more certain a poster becomes that they will lose the longer they make their posts.

      • WTF

        Considering the sheer volume of anti-trump stories based on lies and spin some of which I highlighted above, my small contribution of facts and truths is swamped by the fascist distortion we see from the MSN who are now getting caught out from the moment they go to print.

        As I’ve told you before, if you want to debate the facts I’ve posted, be my guest but the truth is you’re reticent to engage in real debate and it suggests you’re a coward to confront real facts. Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts and unlike you I don’t invent facts.

        “Better to stay quiet and be thought a fool then to open your mouth and leave no doubt.”

      • Chamber Pot

        Refute the facts then instead of snivelling.

        • WTF

          You’ve time for a 80 day round the world cruise before we get any direct answer from this troll !

        • It was a load of hysterical one-sided unsupported opinions. Not a lot of facts to refute.

          • Chamber Pot

            You mean like your effluvial output ?

          • WTF

            Come on limp wizard, surely you have some ‘facts’ to debate my assertions instead of your usual insults I’ve come to expect. Everything I posted is happening right now and every news outlet is reporting on it, its facts not unsupported opinions, perhaps that’s why you’re reticent to debate. Most here notice that about you, when ever there’s irrefutable facts you go quiet which is some relief for us from the usual ad hominem attacks and unsubstantiated posts you never back up. You did get that last bit right though “Not a lot of facts to refute” hence the real reason for your sulking. Are there any to refute ?

            However, we’d like to hear your opinion of these irrefutable facts I’ve posted so come on now, don’t disappoint !

          • There are no facts in this debate, just opinions.

            The wealth creators mostly have opinions that support remain.

          • WTF

            Every one of them were facts that appeared in many media outlets from all political persuasions of actual events, I didn’t have you down as weak coward even worse that Cameron when it comes to debating but sadly that appears to be the case.

            Now that is an “opinion” my description of you whilst the other are facts well documented by others. Do you understand the difference or are you too scared to debate ! BTW – Deflection doesn’t work either.

            “Foreknowledge of the future cannot be gotten from ghosts, spirits or even limp wizards, it must be obtained from
            people who have the facts.”

          • Central power

            The only irrefutable fact is that you are utterly shameless. Comparing the EU with Hitler’s Germany is just beyond the pale.

          • WTF

            There are two basic ways of controlling the masses, one is through physical force like a state police, dictatorship or military junta and the other is by controlling the economy, taxation and money supply. The EU hadn’t the means to do the former and even they knew it failed many times previously and that’s why they settled for the latter.

            Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t they appoint an un-elected leader for Italy, haven’t they demanded multiple referendums in several countries because they didn’t get the result they wanted and don’t they own & control Greece right now. Not forgetting of course the council of ministers and president are appointed not elected by the people. Most would say that’s a pretty good reason to compare Germany in the 1930’s and the EU today !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you claim to be “most”, as you believe the EU is like your preferred… as you are wrong.

            The Council of Ministers is, of course, made up of the elected head of government of each country.

            You’re also wrong on Italy, you’re wrong on Referendums, you’re wrong on Greece.

          • WTF

            We can have differences of opinion over fascist tendencies of the EU but the UK electorate will have the final say, not you.

            The Council of Ministers are NOT elected by the peoples of Europe – Fact !

            As for Italy, Mario Monti was appointed by the EU as PM of Italy, he was NOT elected. Epic fail again –

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Monti

          • Leon Wolfeson

            The EU does not have your tendencies.
            And I get a vote at the referendum.

            And then you confuse the Council of Minister and the Commission…the CoM are elected heads of government, the Comission is elected by the EU Parliament, i.e. via representative democracy.

            Tip – the UK cabinet is 100% appointed by the PM, Mr. Epic Fail. Then there’s the House of Lords… Mr. Epic Fail More.

            Then you make a wild claim about Italy, check, and the EU. Citing Wikipedia, LMAO.
            Giorgio Napolitano is not the EU, and the appointment of Monti was confirmed by both houses of the Italian Government by an overwhelming majority. He then resigned after passing the 2012 budget, and lost in the following election.

            The repeated austerity in Italy has been boneheaded, but has been the choice of it’s elected representatives.

          • WTF

            Correction alert !

            The CoM as I said before are NOT elected by the peoples of Europe and it is they who draft new laws and legislation for the whole of Europe.

            TiP: Unlike the CoM we can vote out any UK minister from the cabinet after 5 years, we cannot do that with a CoM member.

            Mari Monti was forced on the Italians by blackmail from the EU in their bail out process.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Right, so you say Heads of State are not elected, again. And no, they are not the EU Commission – you’re conflating them again!

            And no, you cannot vote out any minister. They are appointed by the PM, end of story – your lack of knowledge about the UK’s constitutional setup is sad.

            As you blame the EU for an internal process to Italy – the President did it, and it was ratified by a huge majority of the Italian lawmakers, etc.

            You’re simply spouting a conspiracy theory.

          • WTF

            Major Confusion alert –

            1/ Council of Ministers are not the EU commission.

            2/ I said you can vote out a minister every 5 years if you don’t want him to remain an MP.

            3/ The EU blackmailed Italy as they were bust which is a bit ironic when the EU behaved more like the Mafia !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Yes, I agree you’re confused.

            1. Thanks for finally realizing this.
            2. Nope, being voted out as a MP has nothing whatsoever to do with being a minister. Ministers are appointed by the PM – no requirement whatsoever to pick MP’s.
            3. That’s a plain conspiracy theory, the EU is not behaving like you.

          • WTF

            Idiot Alert !

            1/ But its the CoM who draft legislation and its they we can’t vote out out “right” !

            2/ Of course we can vote out ministers if they are ministers at the time of a GE.

            3/ If you company is bust and a bunch of venture capitalists offer to bail you out provided they appoint the CEO, that’s a form of blackmail and that’s what happened to Italy !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Well sure, you’re an idiot.

            1/ Incorrect. That’s the EU Commission. You’re still confusing them!
            (And you can vote in your home country…of course, we don’t vote for a PM here, but still)

            2/ Incorrect. Ministers in the UK are appointed by the PM. That they’re MP’s is incidental, constitutionally. The current *convention* is to appoint ministers who are not MP’s and not already Lords *to* the Lords, but that is a mere (and recent) convention.

            3/ …In your conspiracy theories. Oh, and the economic issue in the first place was right-wing austerity, they had a primary surplus before that.

          • WTF

            Epic Fail Alert !

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_the_European_Union

            1/ Council of the EU AKA Council of ministers draft legislation and are not elected by the electorate.

            2/ Ministers although appointed by the PM can and are kicked out of office at election time.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Yes, you do fail in an epic fashion.

            1/ You again conflate different bodies. As the wikipedia page in fact makes clear…I’m correct.

            The EU Commission draft legislation. They do so at the *behest* of other bodies, including the EU Council. To whit; “Under this procedure, the Commission presents a proposal to Parliament and the Council.”

            As it also correctly states, the the Council of Ministers is made up of the elected ministers of each country. You claim they are not then elected.

            2/ That is 100% up to the PM. He can choose to replace them, at any time. If the PM changes, he can appoint anyone he likes as his ministers – in theory (but not practice) including some of the prior ministers.

          • WTF

            Coward alert !

            Come on ‘wizard’, you don’t normally shy away from facts or opinions and you’re normally very vocal on both. Even if you believe these are opinions rather than facts, surely your all seeing ominipotent mind can come up with some debating points or are you ‘impotent’ yet again ?

        • Central power

          There are no facts to refute.

      • WTF

        However, “Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win”

        Enjoy your defeat !

    • Central power

      In any case it will be a c..t.

  • Major Plonquer

    If Trump loses I can see it now. His next big hotel project will be Monica Lewinsky Towers on M Street.

    • WTF

      With complimentary Cuban cigars for the sun terrace !

  • WTF

    There’s been several straw polls and on the spot Q&A’s done in the universities & streets of America asking all age groups what they think Clinton has achieved and everyone so far has been stumped to answer that question. Its the same problem when liberals are asked why they call Trump a racist or a bigot, they are equally stumped to answer that question. My guess is it all comes back to cr** journalists like Buckley and even if these knuckle dragging rioters can actually read, they can’t get any real facts from the liberal MSM as none is provided. In most cases, there are no facts anyway as here.

    Even a Q&A at Harvard only produced two students who knew basic facts about the constitution, who administration figureheads were or basic geography. As Jesse Watters the questioner showed, when he asked where these two got their basic facts from the answer was Fox News. Of course the liberals here will jump on this but at least these two learned who the Sec of State was, the names of the previous 5 presidents and other basic stuff as the other students learned nothing from the NY Slime, the Washington Post, MSNBC & ABC. I must confess even those two Harvard students were stumped on the Clinton accomplishment question but so is all the country !

  • Andre T

    “Comrade Sanders” elegante demonstrated the difference between the US and Europe or even much of the world (Canada quisquis) Sanders would be absolute centre in Europe

    • Ron Todd

      He would not be centre in the UK.

    • So it is “centre” in Europe to go to the Soviet Union for your Honeymoon? The United States already has very high levels of taxation on “the rich” (contrary to what you have been taught to believe), and the highest levels of taxation on “big business” in the Western world (at this point your Hollywood conditioned brain will explode with disbelief – but it is true), the last thing America needs is even higher taxes and even more government spending.

  • SeaNote

    The next two elections are no brainers:
    2016 vote for Trump,
    2020 vote for anybody but Trump

    • WTF

      What if by 2019 people see that America is seeing improvements thanks to Trump. That’s what really scares the Democrats as they’ll be history for a long time, its not his persona that worries them. They don’t want to risk giving him a chance in case he succeeds, that’s why they’re so vocal against him.

  • Tom Cullem

    Well, at least after 25 years Americans will be able to stop hearing her running for president. Oh, wait – I forgot about 2020 . . .

  • hobspawn

    Since they’ve disabled comments on the Erdogan limerick story I may as well post here.

    A friend of mine sent in a poem which I think was better than Boris’s winner. Here it is:

    A goat-herd called ‘Wretched’ Erdogan,
    Was ​sodding the goat he preferred again.
    He wiped off the curd,
    Said “Shh – Mutti’s the word”,
    Then dipped his delight in the ​turd again.

    Here is Boris’s:

    There was a young fellow from Ankara,
    Who was a terrific ​wankerer,
    Till he sowed his wild oats,
    With the help of a goat,
    But he didn’t even stop to thankera.

    If you think my friends’s effort is a worthier winner than Boris’s, please upvote this comment.

    • Central power

      Both are Prime Ministerial.

      • hobspawn

        “Both are Prime Ministerial.”

        Thanks for the tip. I’m off to Ladbrokes. The odds are favourable.

  • ossettian

    The rug-muncher just radiates evil.

  • WTF

    Lets have some more speculation to add to Mr. Buckley’s piece as who know what could happen in this acrimonious race for the White House. There’s some in political circles who are now suggesting that Clinton should announce she’ll offer Saunders the job of VP in an attempt to mend the fractures that have appeared in the Democratic party and that between them, they could see off Trump.

    That might be true BUT, there’s a big problem which those in the know are aware of. Clinton has made a feint to the left in her political rhetoric partly to keep Obama happy and ensure he doesn’t come out against her but equally to try and battle Saunders on his own turf. No one really believes Clinton is a lefty as she’s too much in the pockets of Wall St but if spun right, the pair of them could capture the white house between them. Now comes the problem as you’ll have a marxist who wants to turn America into a socialist state battling it out with Clinton as Top Dog (or should we say b****) who wants to reward her friends in Wall St. Isn’t that a recipe for disaster and god forbid, should she bail out due to health issues, welcome to Venezuela US style.

    I don’t think even Debbie Wasserman Schultz of the DNC would want to risk this but nothing is impossible when they’re so scared of Trump !

    Thirteen minutes of Clinton lies !

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI

  • A “President Hillary Clinton” would be the same as President Barack Obama – higher taxes, more government spending and more regulations. Mostly illegal regulations (Presidential orders – as with Mr Obama), but as Mrs Clinton would be appointing the judges her orders being illegal would not be a problem for her.

    The problem is a “President Donald Trump” would be much the same – I have just listened to this man deliver a speech at the NRA conference. After boasting about himself for a long period of time Mr Trump got round to policy – threatening companies that “move jobs to Mexico” with a tax in imports *. As if Presidents had the legal right to impose taxes. And as if a Herbert “The Forgotten Progressive” Hoover style trade war (rather than lower taxes, lower government spending and less regulations in America) made any sense as economic policy.

    Mr Trump is indeed a “Mussolini” style Progressive – as is Mrs Clinton and Mr Obama. The trouble is that I doubt that Mr Christopher Buckley knows anything about Mussolini (or about Mrs Clinton or Mr Trump). Unless one knows what a Big Government Progressive is (and why Mussolini, Obama, Trump and Clinton are examples of the type) it is a bit silly to write about the subject.

  • amanuenensi

    If by 2019 Americans are seeing improvements thanks to Trump we shall wish them well and salute his second glittering term. But if there is no wall, or half a wall, and if there has been botched deportations of 5 million people, if the near Mexican agricultural states economies have collapsed, if the US has carpet bombed twenty Iraqi and Syrian cities killing 2.5 million, and resultant mass terrorist murders are happening weekly in the West, if world trade has gone 80% isolationist and people are starving again in the 3rd world at 15 million a year, and world trade has collapsed leading to a greater depression than 1929, if Europe is seriously arming and our local social services have collapsed under the weight of mass unemployment, might we just regret claiming so loudly in 2016 the world was in such a “mess” and we need a strong man to fix it…..

    2016 could be the end of the golden years.

    • WTF

      You sound a bundle of fun but all the negatives you mention are very likely under a Clinton administration and especially if she takes on Saunders as VP to unite the Dems and fight Trump, it could easily turn out like your worst nightmare. The worst that’s likely under Trump is nothing gets fixed and its status quo of where we all are now but the best would be a whole new world with hope and things getting better.

      This scene is being mirror imaged in the UK & EU with Cameron and the remainers vs Brexit who show hope for the future if Britain leaves the EU.

      Trump for POTUS & Brexit for out of Europe and the opportunities for good change are many.

    • heavysighed

      Hillary has a strong record as a warmonger, making the escalation of violent revolution in Libya her personal project. She made that country such a nice place to live that its population fell by 1/3 and the European migrant crisis began. And she, famously, laughed about it. How does that make middle eastern wars more likely under Trump?

    • smokey joe

      … mate, please tell me what you are drinking … i want a bucket full.

  • Martin Jennerson

    Trump is clearly going to walk it unless a third candidate runs.

  • SeaNote

    Septuagenarian’s are taking over the country.

    • Paul Snowden

      But at least they know that they don’t need an apostrophe in their plural spelling.

  • A very funny and engaging read.

    • TrumpGodzillaRising

      You Scottish cvunt

      • covert

        Its welsh you F*cking moron

        • TrumpGodzillaRising

          same limey crap, look forwards to blowing you off the map soon

          • TatR

            You realise Trump hasn’t declared war on the UK, right? He actually claims to have an official invite and is really looking forward to it.

          • 100

            Of course not, it’s war on the leaders.. including the new London mayor. Especially him, actually. And the regressive globalists whose terminal illness has spread to infect so many among us here..to the point that sharing a country with them is no longer tolerable.

          • Cyril Sneer

            Look forward to blowing him, more like.

        • Cyril Sneer

          Be patient, he’s Amurrican.

  • TrumpGodzillaRising

    The first thing I’m doing when placing my vote for Trump is saying a warm fVck you to liberal England. Demanding he end the NATO alliance and over your crushed defeated bodies forms a new alliance with Russia. Your 20,000 dejected troops couldn’t stop a swarm of flies. Oh and we’re probably keeping your nuclear weapons and sanctioning your bankrupt banks. Let’s see how brave you are then. In fact so brave you’ll run straight into the arms of the EU, because let’s face it, you’re weak liberal cucks. Cannot wait for Cameron to come sucking in a few months.

    American voter with pure hatred towards the liberal UK. Articles like this from phaggot Cuckley only makes me double down my support for Trump.

    • Robbydot1

      Many of us in England pray for a Trump victory, it can’t come soon enough!

      • TrumpGodzillaRising

        He’s comin like the alpha we needed post Cold War. We ain’t toleratin liberalism any longer and as soon as Trump becomes POTUS, Cameron the cuck will be threatened in no uncertain terms to abandon this liberal EU garbage, start defending your once great nation. The new world order is gonna be a whole world of hurt for liberals, illegals, criminals, muslims that don’t play ball. Americans are angry and we’re taking back Washington and it’s DC that underwrites the neoliberal world order.

        Things are gonna change, even if you guys vote to remain within the EU, it’s going to be short lived, come November Trump will rip liberal NATO to pieces and replace with a Putin alliance. The UK can then decide, either with both the US, Russia, or against us. I believe those with balls in the UK will do right the thing because the real enemy is the Islamic State we’re preppin to wipe out, however long it takes.

        • Robbydot1

          Does what you hear day to day make you think he will win? I can’t believe anyone would vote for that lying trollop Hillary but the public aren’t always bright! I can’t understand why Obama hasn’t been impeached for the things he’s done, a truly malevolent man.

          • TrumpGodzillaRising

            We’re already crushing the evil little witch, the GOP’s now unifying behind Trump, polls are skyrocketing, she’s losing ground and we’ve not even started to launch attacks on her yet. Sander’s supporters are warming to us, they despise crooked hillary. By the time this thing is done, Trump will be the next POTUS and the Western neliberal world order post Cold War is officially finished. Once we take control of Washington we’re gonna use it to crack neoliberal skulls. The UK needs to decide, with us, or against us, and that “us” includes Russia. Liberal EU can’t survive in a fight against both an authoritarian America and Russia combined, it’s impossible because we all know that millions upon millions of Europeans are tired of Cameron, Hollande, Merkel, Juncker etc. Look at the rise of the right in Europe today, change is coming.

            Put it this way, if you are anti-liberal, anti-illegals, anti-criminals, anti-Islamist, pro-nation state, pro-stability, pro-jobs, pro-manufacturing, pro-life, pro-reality then you’re going to enjoy this world order soon.

          • 100

            I’m with you but I’m less confident. I hope you’re right. The Mexican consulates are registering voters in droves as we speak.

          • Foxytrader

            I think you’re a parody. A clever one, but a parody all the same.

          • TrumpGodzillaRising

            Hey buddy, we didn’t get to ruling the world by relying on parodies as you’ll soon find out.

        • Jakiri

          Putin is a gangster eating his country from the inside.

          Putin alliance, on the basis of what? Putin is rabidly anti-American. In fact it is what passes for government foreign-policy, except for gangsterism. More blatant than the worst of Wall St. Putin is also anti- human-rights, anti-free speech, in fact anti-anything that stands in the way of his own power.

          Islamic State are a crude and obvious enemy. The real enemy is the Muslim Brotherhood, who have been smart enough to keep a (thin) veil of non-violence, or at least one degree of separation from the violent groups they support in countries around the world. They are active in the US and the EU and the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation have a powerful caucus in the UN.

          Putin has an overtly Islamic State, within his country, with the imposition of sharia every bit as bad as any other place in the ME. Look up “Ramzan Kadyrov”, “Chechen leader” and Putin client/ally and “sharia”. Some saviour!

          • TrumpGodzillaRising

            Putin is anti-neoliberal and so is the majority of America. We’re pro-Russia, we’re pro-Putin. We have no problems with gangstas.

            You’ll soon find out our strategy for the world as the months countdown. 170 days remain and Obozo is kicked out of office never to be seen again.

            The coming US/Russia alliance will be the most powerful the world has ever known. I suggest you start paying attention to what both Trump & Putin have been saying.

            The target will be Islam.

          • Hagen vanTronje

            Nostradamus did make a prophecy about two great men uniting the north and the eastern lands Leaders starting to quiver with fear.

          • TrumpGodzillaRising

            Right, so one by one you’ll watch how fast the world yields, submits and cowers in a corner to both Trump & Putin. If you don’t yield, you’ll die and there would probably be very few nations on earth you could escape to. India & China will also be invited to join the ranks at the high table. No other nations matter. If you’re a neoliberal, globalist, oligarch and you fight this new world order, then you’re in a world of hurt. You’ve seen how Putin dealt with his oligarchs, wealth stripped, either jail and/or death.

          • Cyril Sneer

            Goodbye Jews, eh?

    • Fernando Cárdenas

      Being that the EU is richer than the US, I honestly think that people like you are what we need to convince people here and in the EU that alone we are small and together with the EU are big. I hope there are more of you around.

      • TrumpGodzillaRising

        Are you high? The ONLY thing keeping liberal EU together IS Washington controlled NATO bozo. The ONLY reason neoliberal EU banks are alive IS the Fed bozo. You’re soon gonna learn.

        Without Washington you have no EU. Wait until we start funding, supporting in partnership with Russia populist parties in Europe against you. You don’t stand a chance. We’re going to remove liberal politicians from power, by force if necessary.

        Good luck, you’re gonna need it.

        • Hagen vanTronje

          “”Wait until we start funding, supporting in partnership with Russia populist parties in Europe against you.””

          This would be the best thing to happen !!

          • TrumpGodzillaRising

            Good because that’s what’s about to happen. Kiss goodbye to liberal Europe and the EU. Nations will be “encouraged” to maintain their independent sovereignty.

    • Cyril Sneer

      The fat fool Trump is a cuckservative, you braindead closet case.

  • LBD

    Completely ignoring the fact that Trump is almost as liberal as Hillary. He says conservative things but everyone knows that he is as much of a hypocrite as she is.

    • 100

      He’s been saying the same things for 40+ years as evidenced by the mountains of interview transcripts and YouTube videos. If he fixes the immigration problem, we don’t care what else he does, or if he does anything else at all.

  • Paul Snowden

    “Quisquis” means “whoever”. The Latin for “whatever” is “quicquid”.

  • goodsoldier

    Christopher Buckley is only has a job because of his connegtions with the Establishment. No wonder he’s afraid of Trump. His whole career is one big hanging on to Father’s fame and talent.

    Trump for President!

  • Meltonmark

    Propaganda article courtesy of the Zionists who control America.

  • Meltonmark

    The West is riddled with secret societies, money laundering organizations, self-serving parasitic leaders, deviants, crooks, Zionist liars, and feminists. It will continue to decline unless it collectively returns to its Christian roots.

  • mai Chibwe

    Americans have a history of voting for fools so I predict that they will vote for Trump. In fact If I were a betting woman I would bet on Trump to win regardless of his poll position. Americans are not happy with reasonable people. If the people are then non-white or female, their chance of being voted in become a lot less.

    The non-whites in America are not possible to organise so they do not really affect the vote. When I lived in USA I found the politics there fool of foolishness compared to the UK.

    • Anglian Reed

      “If the people are then non-white or female, their chance of being voted in become a lot less.”

      Should Hillary Clinton become the next President – the immediate successor to Obama – you might need to reconsider your opinion.

      • mai Chibwe

        Maybe. I don’t think so though. Trump is so silly that Americans will elect him.

        • WTF

          You seem to believe you’re very well informed so perhaps you can tell us why Trump is silly !

          • mai Chibwe

            Perhaps NOT. If you need to be told that then chances are 100% that you will not understand so the effort is totally wasted.

          • WTF

            Ahhh, you’re so predictable, just like all those paid for knuckle dragging kids interviewed on TV at the anti Trump rallies who were asked similar questions, they either refused to answer or couldn’t answer. Which type are you, the ones who are afraid to say why or the ones who is clueless as to why ?

            Even if you believe I wouldn’t understand there’s plenty of others here who would, so don’t disappoint, don’t be shy and tell us why you think Trump is silly !

          • mai Chibwe

            LOL. Very good. Nobody else asked that question. You did. So the assumption is only a minority of people would ask such a question. I am not anti-Trump as that would serve no purpose to anyone including myself. I am not American. I happen to think Americans will vote for Trump, but I will not be able to influence the vote in any way, not that I would like to.

    • WTF

      In all fairness most countries have a similar problem with a liars and crooks in government and an electorate that is naive, some are young and many are foolish. Thats how you get people like Blair, Cameron or Obama into power.

      • mai Chibwe

        Yes but Americans seem more prone to that trait.
        Blair was good for UK. The economy blossomed under him.
        Cameron has been foolish YES.
        Obama inherited an economy that was on its knees and has not made it worse. Obama’s issues arise from his poor relationship with fascist states like Israel, which enjoys the American Jewish support.

        • Hagen vanTronje

          Blair was good for UK. The economy blossomed under him.””

          Only because Blair and Brown borrowed money, when the departed the deficit was 900 Trillion quid (it’s now around 1,500 Trillion quid.)

          • mai Chibwe

            That is definitely NOT the case. The deficit in UK was caused by American crooks in the banking systems. Blair and Brown were good at handling the economy.

            The clowns came in later.

          • Hagen vanTronje

            I beg to differ, even during the so-called,’good years’, Brown was regularly borrowing Billions !

          • WTF

            Private Finance Initiative, 300 billion of debt !

            They put us into debt for decades to come, any fool can borrow to make your life style look good but eventually you have to pay it back or in this case our kids will.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            The Tories have ramped it up massively. So.

          • WTF

            Awkward facts eh ?

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Yes, for you and your right.

          • WTF

            “right”

        • WTF

          Blair along with Brown laid the ground work for the 2008 crash.

  • Lorenzo

    Another essay by America’s entrant in the Upper Class Twit of the Year contest.

  • charles kinbote

    So, middle-aged overweight teenage malcontents are unsatisfied. They will possibly continue to be unhappy four or eight years hence. What else is new?

  • WTF

    The bigotry against gay Trump supporters was laid bare this evening on a program about Trumps rise. A gay Trump supporter openly admitted that all of his friends accepted his gayness without a hitch but when they found out he supported Trump he was verbally attacked and ridiculed. He did point out that he had some non vocal gay friends who were closet Trump supporters who will be voting for him but are too scared to come out and say they are voting for Trump. Perversity doesn’t even cover it but its clear the real bigots are on the left whose dogma is its my way or the highway and if its the highway we’ll give you a good kicking as we disagree with your politics.

    What does this tell us ? We now accept gays, transgender, we treat both genders equally and ethnic groups have full rights but when it comes to politics, the left now behaves like Germany’s brown shirts of the 1930’s and people are not allowed to choose for themselves.

    • Hagen vanTronje

      “”the left now behaves like Germany’s brown shirts of the 1930’s””

      Ernst Rohm, Brownshirt Leader was Queer !!

    • TatR

      You seem awfully sensitive for a right-winger. “Verbally attacked and ridiculed”, eh? Aren’t people on the left who use phrases like that usually told to pull themselves together? Do Trump supporters need a safe space?

      • WTF

        I’m not sensitive at all and I’m not gay so it doesn’t affect me personally but I’m just pointing out it seems perverse that gay Trump supporters should be attacked by the left when previously they would have defended them against homophobia.

        I suppose the real question you have to ask yourself is a gay Trump supporter a ‘leftie’ or a ‘rightie’ as it was the left or liberals who first created this divisive society and barriers but where does this man fit in the political spectrum. Its the same sort of dilemma that gives liberals angst when having to choose between minorities like followers of Islam and gay people, who do you back when one side calls for the death of the other.

        As we’ve demonstrated recently these liberals have developed whats known as ‘double think’, the ability to hold totally conflicting views at the same time, why is that do you think ? Is it some evolutionary process or just plain old hypocrisy ?

        • Leon Wolfeson

          So you blame the left for your hate… as you show your ignorance of Orwell. He was writing about your right.

          • WTF

            A word of advice, stay in your ‘safe space’ as you’ll have a nervous breakdown if you leave it.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Really, if I come where you can get to me… you’ll harass me so badly…

            All for using facts about Orwell and what he wrote about the right!

          • WTF

            I use the power of the pen (keyboard) I don’t need to be a knuckle dragging liberal activist that resorts to physical violence.

          • WTF

            You’re not doing too well so far as I’ve pretty well trashed all your posts as lies, spin, errors or just plain BS. Time you took a break and re-grouped before you start again. In fact, sometimes even your Yoda speak makes more sense !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you claim posting trash is “trashing”, as you blame me for your issues and as you claim your Whining Yoda or whatever excuse you make today.. as you want to silence me for your anti-democratic agenda…

            I don’t make your pile of ” lies, spin, errors or just plain BS.”

          • WTF

            Persecution Alert !

            Hit delete key.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Your persecution…. yea, I bet you want to be able to delete being wrong. Tip – you can, just gotta find the delete function for posts, lol.

          • WTF

            Psychological projection Alert 3 !

            Sad, so sad you’re reduced to this !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Your admitted projection, your whining at me for your issues is that.
            You choose to project but at the same time warning people about it.

            But hey, what can you do when your sort of Fash, given your choice of image…

    • Leon Wolfeson

      So it’s clear to you that discriminating on political views, which are not protected… hmm! As you ignore the far more dogmatic right wing view on this, as you threaten people…. as you demand that your politics be tolerated, no matter how extreme…

      • WTF

        Confused Alert !

        I’m commenting on the fact that some gays attacked another gay person just because his politics were different to theirs.

        However, what on earth are you ranting about in your usual disjointed manner ?

        BTW – Do you support Criminal Records Checks for those wishing to work with kids or do you prefer to let potential pedophiles loose on kids ?

        • Leon Wolfeson

          I agree you’re confused.

          As you try and blame someone being gay for everything they do, check, and as you blame me for your post.

          I agree you’d fail a CRB as a Fash. And of course you think given your views all Jews are “potential pedophiles”, and you’d make the CRB a tool of exclusion if you could…

          • WTF

            Shall I ask this question again in single syllables so you might understand it ?

            Do you believe that for certain jobs such as voluntary work with
            children or in healthcare to foster or adopt a child, people should be
            required to submit themselves to Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS)
            checks as required by UK law ? yes or no !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            I answered it, of course (once more, qualified support for DBS)

            I agree it, thanfully, blocks Fash like you from some situations where your ideology would allow you to harm people.

          • WTF

            What does qualified support mean ?

            The law is quite clear that if you work with kids or adopt them you have to be cleared. So what is this qualified support then ?

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Exactly what it says. And I agree with the public debate on the details of the DBS.

          • WTF

            You’re telling porkies again Wolfie –

            Unqualified support in this context would mean that you unconditionally
            support the use of DBS checks for anyone involved with children.

            Qualified support in this context would mean that you
            support the use of DBS checks for anyone involved with children BUT with certain caveats.

            Your response was the latter response and you refused to name these caveats so you have NOT answered the question.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            No, I’m not speaking your words.

            Your attempts to distort English are sad. Unqualified support is just that.
            As you fantasize up things from your imagination, Fash. They’re 100% yours.

            As you as ever reject any answer which does not decry the DBS.

          • WTF

            Lying Wolfie strikes again, he wont offer unqualified support for DBS, wont spell out caveats and just responds with slanderous attacks.

            I don’t decry Stalin or Attila the Hun as they are long before my time but if asked if I thought they were bad dudes I’d say YES.

            You don’t decry the DBS but that’s a cop out as it doesn’t say whether you agree with the checks or not, its a nothing answer. The real answer to my question is YES or NO, not I don’t decry them.

            I can’t reject your answer because it isn’t an answer.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            You hit people do you, blaming it on the phantasm in your mind.
            Of course you don’t reject those who you see, clearly, as too moderate – at least you’re honest you’re bad.

            Keep blaming me for your issues. As you whine on.
            You reject any answer not “no”, I get it.

          • WTF

            Expressive Aphasia Alert –

            Severe case of !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Your issues are yours, no need to “alert” people to them, spammer.

          • WTF

            Pragnosticism – If you say so !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Mr. Pragnosticism, and yet you keep doing much the same.

  • JohnJ

    If H got in: I’d find a construction company that specializes in building mosques, domes and minarets, and invest in that.

    • Foxytrader

      Why?

  • Doc S. Africa

    Can’t be worse than what they have now.
    It took 35 years between Carter and Obama… It’ll take a lot more to beat Obama to the post as worst president ever.

    • Disqus Bolloqus

      One only has to look at the previous POTUS, to see the worse ever.

  • richard davis

    please watch this aniation EU debate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoQquFCZQIs

  • WTF

    Trump-phobia vs Islamophobia !

    There seems to be a collective phobia from the liberals of all things Trump where they are scared of what he might do or what they believe he represents despite no actual evidence to back it. On the other side of the coin, the progressive liberals attack us for what they call Islamophobia, so perhaps we should compare these two phobias to see which one is real and which is a figment of an insecure individual.

    The Test – Has Trump every been involved in acts of terrorism, sexual grooming of under age girls, beheading on the streets of a city, throwing gays off roofs, the killing of the first born males or any other extreme Islamic atrocity ? So why this Trump-Phobia from the liberals, what have they to fear but fear itself !

    • Disqus Bolloqus

      Probably because his proposed policies will make a bad situation worse. His solution seems to be to pour petrol on the flames

      • 100

        So it makes a bad situation better to import more of the problem? Sorry, but no.

        • Disqus Bolloqus

          No one is proposing that

          • 100

            That’s the alternative to his proposed policies by default. It’s what we would get from Hillary.

          • Disqus Bolloqus

            No it’s not

          • WTF

            Open borders is a stated policy by progressive liberals it is not an official policy. However, the way current rules on visitors & immigrants are applied allows them to ‘cherry pick’ who can come in and stay however they arrived, let me explain.

            Firstly for people arriving by plane its easy to filter them unlike those who sneak across the border. The same is true of the UK where airports can screen whilst eco-migrants can sneak in via trucks. Illegals once in can usually find a way to stay whether its sanctuary cities like San Francisco who ignore federal laws and allow illegals to stay, get a drivers license and then even vote. In the UK we have the ECHR that stops us deporting illegals.

            For people actually coming in through an airport, sure you’ll have all of that paper work but I don’t see the problem as depending on the airport its usually pretty quick and at many airports now if you have an ESTA you can self scan and be through immigration inside 2-5 minutes. The real flaw in the system is stuff like visas for spouses wishing to live in the USA. On the I 130 visa form you are vetted chapter and verse on finances, background, mandatory police checks and it will take 15 months or more. If however you use a K1 spouse visa process as that Muslim terrorist did in San Bernandino, back ground police checks are optional and ‘open borders’ policies can be applied via the back door and a bunch of people then get slaughtered.

            I even got ‘interrogated’ by border police at Poole when arriving from France despite having a British passport. Quite why they did it was unexplained and I wrote to the BA complaining. I got an apology letter as the people at the port exceeded their remit in that case.

            The point I’m making is that immigration legislation is usually rather ‘loose’ which then allows ‘political’ interference in how it is applied and you don’t get the same consistency in national security nor immigrant / visitor permission. Obama and his followers has always ‘bent’ the rules to align with his politics whereas Trump I suspect would remove uncertainty.

          • Disqus Bolloqus

            You stated open borders was Obama’s policy. Now you say it is not. You seem to be all at sea on this matter

          • WTF

            Its the Democrats and Obama who are all at sea. They claim one thing in public statements but practice the opposite behind closed doors.

            Once again you are totally out of touch with all things America as your claims appear to come from where the sun doesn’t shine. Here’s a heads up for you that took me less than 10 seconds to find.

            http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/obamas-open-door-immigration-policy-blamed-for-surge-in-rural-gang-crime/article/2588917

            http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/04/obamas-open-door-policy-allows-gangs-to-slip-over-border-rising-murder-rates/

            http://www.dailywire.com/news/5092/sheriff-tells-house-judiciary-committee-obama-open-hank-berrien

            http://casey-pops.blogspot.com/2016/02/obamas-open-door-immigration-policy.html

            Do I need to add any more ?

          • Leon Wolfeson

            No, your using Breitbart shows precisely how funny your post is.

          • WTF

            I hope you’re OK ‘Woolfie’ as you seem to have gone quiet all of a sudden but there’s still that unanswered question we’re waiting for you to answer !

            Do you believe that for certain jobs such as voluntary work with
            children or in healthcare to foster or adopt a child, people should be
            required to submit themselves to Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS)
            checks as required by UK law ? Obviously there’s only two answers yes
            or no, so how about it, are you going to answer this ?

            https://www.gov.uk/disclosure-

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So your personalities blame me for your issues.. the further answer to that I have is that Fash like you are unsuitable to work with children due to your views. This is, further, not relevant to the wider issues.

          • WTF

            Answer the question, are you scared ?

            Do you believe that for certain jobs such as voluntary work with
            children or in healthcare to foster or adopt a child, people should be
            required to submit themselves to Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS)
            checks as required by UK law ? yes or no !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            I’m sure you want to scare me with your refusal to read my answer.

            Your bullying nature shows why your Fash rightly automatically fail DBS checks.

          • WTF

            You haven’t answered yes or no, you muttered something vague about qualified support whatever that is supposed to mean ! What does it mean ?

          • Leon Wolfeson

            I answered, right, and you won’t accept anything except “no”. Your excuses roll on.

          • WTF

            So explain ‘qualified support’ then ?

            (Hint, this is a question that requests an answer) !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Yes, and I’m not interested in pandering to you, given your Jewhate.

          • WTF

            You still here Lying Wolfie, I thought you’d left for the night !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So your fantasy, and hence you… you’re odd.

          • Disqus Bolloqus

            Judge people by their actions not their words

          • WTF

            I do just as do most Americans who are waking up to the corrupt practices of the Primaries on both sides of the aisle. That aside for now –

            Obama is on his bucket list tour of the world trying desperately to find something he can put in his legacy other than a failing Obamacare where half the insurance companies have bailed out. Then we have his record of being a President who has been at war some place or other across the globe more than any predecessor. Race relations have taken a step backwards due to his divisive policies and his parting domestic shot is to pass an executive order for LGBT toilets and locker rooms without thinking through how to implement it.

            That’s just one politician before we get started on Clinton who trashed women abused by her husband in Arkansas, called families of those killed in Benghazi liars, she lied about being under fire in Bosnia when in fact she was handing flowers to a Bornia girl on the runway. Then of course we have emails, telling the electorate in West Virginia she was shutting down the mines and jobs and supporting sanctuary cities where illegal immigrant criminals can hide out.

            Yep, that’s a lot of actions we can judge these two on !

          • Disqus Bolloqus

            I’m not pro or anti Obama, my point was simply about the claim of an open borders policy. If pressed to express an opinion, I would say that his presidency was a disappointment. He had an opportunity particularly in his first term to make real changes to America, but he failed to deliver on his rhetoric. His second term has been dominated by political gridlock.

            Also your point seems to be to support Trump because he’s not Hilary. That seems a negative reason.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Ah, the failure of expanding coverage and not letting people die… check.

            As you blame him for killers with your sort of views… as you note Clinton’s so much nicer than you, right.

          • WTF

            You’re wandering again Wolfie !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            You’re whining again.

          • Jonah Varlik

            I have a bad feeling that DB is actually Telemachus. In drag.

          • WTF

            Obama has an open border immigration policy given half a chance and as for all the illegals already in the country they are getting a free pass. Sanctuary cities ? Heard of them have you ?

          • Disqus Bolloqus

            That’s interesting. When I visited USA, I had a long queue for passport control, got fingerprinted, and photo’d. So did all other visitors. Plus I had to fill in forms before flying. Is that what you mean by open borders?

          • WTF

            Depends where you enter. Miami is the pits, Atlanta or Philadelphia were very quick for me. I was through immigration before the bags arrived at the carousel.

          • Jonah Varlik

            And if you swim a river, there are no checks at all!

      • WTF

        So who started the fire first then ?

        • Disqus Bolloqus

          To answer that question, you would have to delve into the history of monotheism religions and fight for territory over millennia in Middle East, Europe and Asia. But does it really matter? What’s important is what happens next.

          • WTF

            OK, what happens next ?

            Does tightening your border controls pour fuel on a fire ? I’ve never seen any evidence to suggest that but it should prevent or mitigate against events like San Bernandino.

            Does shutting down sanctuary cities by withholding federal funding pour fuel on the fire ? First of, should states and cities follow the law or are you in favor of anarchy !

            Does leveling the trading playing field pour fuel on a fire ? Hardly, it just means your trading partners cant take the p*** !

            That’s just 3 Trump policies, I don’t see a problem and if applying the law upsets liberal retards who cares.

          • Disqus Bolloqus

            Tightening your border? No it doesn’t. An indiscriminate ban on 1.6 billion people? Yes.

          • WTF

            Your unsubstantiated view, but the truth is its a “measured and temporary ban against any immigrant who cannot prove their back ground”.

            All he’s proposing is that ALL immigrants under ALL immigration visa programs have to meet back ground checks that the existing I-130 visa program demands which requires verifiable police certificates that prove you aren’t a terrorist, criminal or rapist. Many spouses have done this for a green card why shouldn’t every one who wants to live in America. He just wants to block the loop hole that allowed the San Bernandino female terrorist in on a K1 visa. Clearly you’re not as well informed on US immigration procedures as I am.

            Given your stance and a choice between tightening back ground checks or more massacres, its obvious you’d vote for the latter !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            It’s a blanket ban against those who can’t prove themselves acceptable. Forever, since it’ll generate extremism. Far beyond any existing checks.

            And no, where has he said he stands with you and the KKK?

          • WTF

            Of course its a blanket ban against those of who can’t be vetted that’s the whole point of it you dingbat. You check all immigrant applicants credentials, if they pass muster they pass the back ground checks, if they can’t you don’t let them in.

            In the UK and elsewhere we do back ground checks by law on anyone who wants to work with children to protect them from possible sexual abusers. Clearly you’re quite at ease with ignoring background checks and allowing perverts, pedophiles and other dangerous individuals to be allowed to enter a country or be in charge of kids. Who is worse, the abusers or the enablers ?

            You’re just p***** because you probably wouldn’t pass either background checks and are flippant over events like Rotherham, the Westminster Pedophile ring and massacres like San Bernandino.

            As for your last Yoda talk line, what the *** are you rambling on about ?

          • Leon Wolfeson

            No, it’s a blanket ban against all kinds of people based on ideology. As you try and coflate a different scheme… as you claim I share your views. As you talk about your thought crime ideology… as you note I’m Jewish and wouldn’t pass your checks.

            Then you mention how you’ll use selective caring about crime as a weapon… and as you blame me for your usage of Yoda Talk, your rambling hate, as you stand with IS in wanting separation…

          • WTF

            The existing I-130 immigration procedure for America takes no account of religious beliefs or ideology and that is all Trump was advocating on back grounds checks, criminality checks and not race. I would suggest to you if you haven’t walked the walk as I have, you shouldn’t try and talk the talk when you not equipped with the facts.

            “as you note I’m Jewish” – Did I ?, I don’t remember even mentioning your race as I don’t know what it is and I treat everyone equally no matter what their color, ethnicity or religion is. Now if you’re a complete idiot, I’ll call you that but there’s idiots like you in all races including mine.

            Hint – Just stop with the persecution flag as you’re making yourself look real stupid. “right”

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you think your persecution… “UR STUPID” you go, when your Fash tried to kill my people before… under the very symbol you choose…

            So you ignore what Trump’s advocated. You admit you’ve been rejected on those grounds … as you try to deny what you said now… as you lie given your choice of images. As you try and bring race into it… when your ideology is why you’re an idiot.

          • WTF

            I think everyone here and certainly myself have had enough of all your deflection, weasel words and BS, so lets get back to that simple question that you’ve avoided answering so far.

            Do you believe that for certain jobs such as voluntary work with children or in healthcare to foster or adopt a child, people should be required to submit themselves to Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS) checks as required by UK law ? Obviously there’s only two answers yes or no, so how about it, are you going to answer this ?

            https://www.gov.uk/disclosure-barring-service-check/overview

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you don’t think, but claim to be everyone, as you blame me for your issues.

            I already answered, of course. And it’s good that DBS checks keep kids safe from Fash like you.

          • WTF

            False Claim Alert –

            No you haven’t answered that question – Answer it or are you still scared ?

            Do you believe that for certain jobs such as voluntary work with
            children or in healthcare to foster or adopt a child, people should be
            required to submit themselves to Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS)
            checks as required by UK law ? yes or no !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            I agree you are making a false claim, as I answered. As you so want to scare me, Fash.

            I am pleased you’re not allowed to Foster kids, as the DBS would block it due to your Fash ideology.

          • WTF

            False claim, awaiting proper answer !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Yes, I agreed you made a false claim, as you decry any answer except your decrial of DBS, right.

          • WTF

            Just reply to the response a few posts before !

          • WTF

            No Hiding Place Leon –

            Do you believe that for certain jobs such as voluntary work with
            children or in healthcare to foster or adopt a child, people should be
            required to submit themselves to Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS)
            checks as required by UK law ?

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexual_abuse_in_the_United_Kingdom

          • Maureen Fisher

            Interesting that the taxi driver abusers whose job was to collect the Rotherham girls to and from school were evidently never checked. Should be grounds for the council’s being sued surely.

          • WTF

            I’m surprised there hasn’t been a court case on failures in Rotherham as there should be.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Oh, so you want to bring “court cases” for not prosecuting people without evidence, etc.

          • WTF

            1400 girls sexually abused isn’t evidence ?

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So a magic figure… as you don’t care about them, just use them as a springboard for your thought crime hate.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Harassment Fash;

            I answered that. I am further pleased that you, with your Fash ideology would not be allowed to adopt, etc.

          • WTF

            You’ve answered nothing yet as all you’ve done is repeat the word “fash” in every post. Projecting again are we ?

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you refuse to read my posts.

            And I’m not the one who chose your Fash image and to go after me for my faith.

          • WTF

            I’ve read them but once ‘fash’ is removed there’s little left. However, qualified support is not an answer to the question.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you don’t read them, as you say an answer is not an answer because you refuse to accept it.

          • WTF

            Too many fash and jew hater comments in your posts to make any sense of them !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Too many facts in my posts, I agree, so you freely choose not to read them.

          • WTF

            More lies, “Lying Wolfie” tut, tut

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Yes, your fantasy, hence you, are a liar.

          • WTF

            You can run but you can’t hide Leon –

            Do you believe in immigration police record checks or do you prefer to risk this ?

            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3604936/PICTURED-Blood-smeared-floors-walls-child-migrant-centre-Swedish-social-worker-22-stabbed-death-frenzied-attack-Somali-boy-TWENTY-ONE.html

          • Leon Wolfeson

            I believe you should be deported, Russian, for the crimes you support there.

            As you get confused, and seem to think that you can stop crime like minority report.

          • WTF

            You’re off in your fantasy world Wolfie, time for some more meds ! But before you go completely loopy, please answer this question !

            Do you believe that for certain jobs such as voluntary work with
            children or in healthcare to foster or adopt a child, people should be
            required to submit themselves to Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS)
            checks as required by UK law ? yes or no !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you blame me for your issues, and show why you are such a danger that the DBS is a good thing, as you believe, Fash, in drugging people and beating them until they’re “loopy”.

            As you once more refuse to admit my repeated answer exists (qualified support for DBS).
            I am thankful as you admitted that multiple countries police forces failed you.

          • WTF

            I have no personal issues its you that has them judging by your projections.

            DBS is the law, I didn’t pass it but I think its a good step to protecting kids but you seem to disagree as you mentioned qualified support. What does that really mean ? That you agree with it providing you get to choose who has to be checked ?

            If you can’t answer a simple yes or no, you should spell out what your qualified support means. If there are caveats you have, that’s fair enough, spell them out and we could debate them !

            As many would say, man up, put your c*** on the block and be counted instead of being a weasel wimp !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you deny many, many of your posts.

            As you make a wild claim completely contrary to your posts, and as you project – actual projection there – from what you’d make DBS, a way to exclude i.e. Jewish people.

            Your desire I answer “no”, of course… as you want to throw more abuse, given your non-usage of debate. As you claim to be many, and as you want to persecute people based on their c****…on being Jewish.

            Thanks for that, Mr. Weasel Wimp.

          • WTF

            Some of us get cleared by the DBS and other countries police forces and some like you haven’t got a clearance. Don’t cry little boy !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Why are you blaming me for your failure to get cleared? After all, Fash like you can’t pass.

            When I’ve needed it – and I don’t at my present job – I’ve got it.

          • WTF

            Still harboring the hatred because you haven’t been cleared by the DBS. Get over it “Lying Wolfie”, some are cleared like me whilst others wishing for it have this dark cloud over them and steer clear of primary schools.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Keep talking to your fantasy, it’s you… as you whine about your DBS failures.

          • WTF

            “Lying Wolfie” – The man who hasn’t been cleared by the DBS !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            And as you’re Mr. Lying Wolfie/WTF, you’ve admitted formally and for the record you’re not DBS cleared, right.

          • WTF

            Pragnosticism – Right !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Mr. Pragnosticism, if you agree with me then why did you go there?

          • WTF
          • Leon Wolfeson

            Except I do not hold your views against CRB checks.
            That’s a lie you’re making up, Fash, as you clearly could not pass them with your ideology.

            You then list the crimes you so love, as selectively pretending to care about them can incite violence against people for not being just like you, check, rather than my condemning all criminals for what they actually did.

            Not to mention your revealing yourself as a Russian RT-using shill.

          • WTF

            As I’ve clearly stated many times, unlike you I’m fully behind CRB checks and even have police certificates that go beyond simple CRB checks, how about you, did you fail yours ?

            Answer the question, what are you scared of ?

            Do you believe that for certain jobs such as voluntary work with
            children or in healthcare to foster or adopt a child, people should be
            required to submit themselves to Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS)
            checks as required by UK law ? yes or no !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            I agree you’re barred off behind DBS checks, and I’m pleased the police have certified your unfitness. On the occasions I’ve needed CRB checks, I passed just fine thanks.

            I answered the question.

          • WTF

            Are you there Wolfie ? Time to answer that question !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Yes, why do you stand with your Fash?

          • WTF

            Still can’t answer a simple question then Yoda !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Mr. Yoda, as you call yourself, I agree you’ve refused to answer why you stand with your fash.

          • WTF

            DBS checks are nothing to do with facism, your projections are getting more and more confused !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you deny the core purpose of the DBS, to protect people, check.

            As you blame me for your issues.

          • WTF

            I’m cleared, you’re not, others can draw their own conclusions as to why you seem to have issues with that !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            I get you’re clearly barred, as I have no issues with that!

          • WTF

            It looks as if you’re trying to beat certain politicos ‘Lying Wolfie’ but you’re really just an amateur.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Your fantasy, and hence you, are trying to physically attack politicians?
            Oh dear.

          • WTF

            Another Projection alert –

          • Leon Wolfeson

            No, you’re posting three word nonsense “alerts”, spammer.

          • WTF

            Pragnosticism – Agreed

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Mr. Pragnosticism, if you agree with me why did you do it?

          • WTF

            I would have thought that as a Jew you would be very concerned about anti-semitism but I just watched this on TV and I was staggered & sickened at the feeling towards Jews by students in America brainwashed to fund & support Hamas to blow up soft targets.

            http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/435734/ami-horowitz-fox-news-satirist-college-support-hamas

          • Leon Wolfeson

            I am worried by it, yes. Yours, Fash. Others, Fash.

            That other people share your views….does not excuse your holding the same views.

          • WTF

            Not doing too well are you ?

            Can’t answer the simple question and judging from your reticence it might appear you failed CRB checks !

            Do you believe that for certain jobs such as voluntary work with
            children or in healthcare to foster or adopt a child, people should be
            required to submit themselves to Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS)
            checks as required by UK law ? yes or no !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            I’m sure, Fash, you wish me ill.

            As you blame me for your your refusal to accept my answer (which was, of course, qualified support). As you defame me as usual, lying in your usual Jewhate.

          • WTF

            Yoda Speak Alert !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            No, that was a nonsense “alert”.

          • WTF

            Come on Leon, another day another rant, how about answering this awkward question.

            Do you believe that for certain jobs like voluntary work with
            children or in healthcare to foster or adopt a child, people should be
            required to submit themselves to Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS)
            checks as required by UK law ?

            Don’t hide under your rock and sulk like a child whose comfort blanket has been taken away, just answer the question !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            The question is only hard for you because Fash like you are clearly not eligible for DBS clearance.

            I already answered, of course.
            As you blame me for your issues, and as you talk about your love of theft, child-hater.

          • WTF

            Actually, I have total clearance and police certificates from 2 countries, do you ?

            Answer the question, or have your tried and failed the DBS checks ?

            Do you believe that for certain jobs such as voluntary work with
            children or in healthcare to foster or adopt a child, people should be
            required to submit themselves to Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS)
            checks as required by UK law ? yes or no !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            I agree you’re totally cleared of any chance to pass, given your ideology, and I’m pleased the police have certified that in multiple countries.

            I answered, and I have not had your issue with DBS checks.

          • WTF

            Who said I had issues with checks ? I didn’t. As for you with your refusal to back DBS checks it would point to the fact that you neither have any checks and perhaps even failed them !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you deny your post… as you blame me for your opposition to the DBS, as you make up defamatory crap because I’m Jewish as usual.

          • WTF

            Breakdown Alert !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            If you’re having a breakdown, get it seen to.
            Geez.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Oh, so you think trying to block out the world helps. That destroying cities helps. That further tilting things towards your rich…

          • WTF

            Ahhh the rich, you sound just like Monty Pythons The Judean Peoples Liberation front or is it the The Peoples Front for the Liberation of Judea.

            You’re something else, that’s for sure and you sure make every ones day !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Your blaming me for your issues is sad.

          • WTF

            Anyone following this diatribe would know that you’re the one with the mental issues !

          • Maureen Fisher

            He’s actually “Wolfie” of Tooting.

          • WTF

            I like it but I could understand TV’s Wolfie unlike this sad individual. TV’s Wolfie was a bit like Bernie Saunders, you can totally disagree with his dumb ideas but you know where he was coming from, but with Leon, most times we’re clueless what his Yoda speak actually means. In fact he doesn’t even know what it means.

            I’ve never seen ‘Leon Wolfie’ ever post an original thought, idea of opinion for others to comment on and all he does is write disjointed rants as random nerve endings in his head trigger some wacko attack comment. He’s forever inventing things in his head he claims others have said but didn’t, he has a persecution complex bigger than the whole American civil rights movement of the 1960’s and he’s so repetitive I swear he has a form of Asperger.

            Oh well, makes for an interesting case study in human behavior of someone suffering from mental issues !

          • Maureen Fisher

            Yoda is more coherent, to be fair.

          • WTF

            Yep and Leon ‘Wolfie’ seems to have gone quiet for a while.

          • kertitor

            I hope he wont be back. He is a complete idiot.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            You’re not that imporant.

          • WTF

            I was hoping you were researching an answer to my simple question but 4 days seemed a rather long time. Have we an answer yet ?

            Do you believe that for certain jobs such as voluntary work with children or in healthcare to foster or adopt a child,
            people should be required to submit themselves to Disclosure and
            Barring Service (DBS) checks as required by UK law ? yes or no !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Your personalities refuse to read my answer, I agree, your Jihad against DBS and the law go on.

            As you seem to think you need research – no, what’s needed is the police and law protect people from you, Fash.

          • WTF

            What are your caveats for supporting DBS as you’ve refused to say so far and the question remains unanswered. The UK & Spanish police know I’m harmless that’s why I have police certificates saying so, do you have one ?

            Your refusal to back DBS without any equivocation, caveats or weasel words suggests you failed that DBS test and you’re bitter & twisted about it and that’s why you’re being evasive. What did you fail on, mental issues after they read some of your projections ?

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you admit I answered, but then say it’s not anwwe4red.

            As you make a claim that Fash views are “harmless”, and as you claim magical certificates… as you project at me. There are flaws in the DBS system, well-discussed ones.

            “U HAS MENTAL ISSUES, JEW”
            “FACTS R PROJECTION, JEW”
            “DBS EXCLUDES JEWS”

            Same old.

          • WTF

            Nothing answered and nothing admitted from you. As for your nervous breakdown shown in the latter capital letters, you need psychiatric help.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you deny my answer, check.

            As you blame me for your fantasy…. as you say Jews need “psychiatric help”, does that come from your belief in Phrenology?

          • WTF

            You don’t answer with unqualified responses, thats the issue.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            I don’t pander to your desire for a black and white world, that’s your issue.
            Right.

            In fact, ironically, my view of the DBS is very similar to the Telegraph’s. But you don’t care.

          • WTF

            Right — “Lying Wolfie”

            I’m interested in your view on DBS not someone elses and caveats are fine !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So your fantasy, yourself, which you refer to….

            You care about yourself, as you’re not me and not Jewish, right.

          • WTF

            Deflection Alert !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Yes, your silly two-word post is a deflection, spammer.

          • WTF

            Pragnosticism – Could be !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Mr. Pragnosticism, no, your two-word post *was* a deflection.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            No, your WTF username isn’t.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Mr. Sad Individual, as you call yourself, your refusal to read English as you do anything but read it is your issue.

            As you admit you don’t read my posts, and you blame me for yours. As you talk about how much, Fash, you want to persecute me. And as you falsely swear, check.

            You are not interesting, Fash, you’re simply another far right bigot who spews eugenics crap.

          • WTF

            Projecting Again –

            I try and understand your posts but like others, none have facts, few make sense, most are repetitive and ALL of them have the word FASH in them. What can I ay other than you have issues that only you can fix.

            Do you believe that for certain jobs such as voluntary work with children or in healthcare to foster or adopt a child,
            people should be required to submit themselves to Disclosure and
            Barring Service (DBS) checks as required by UK law ? yes or no !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            I agree you’re projecting, as you note you don’t understand or read my posts, as you do realise I use simple facts, based on your clearly self-identified ideology. As you ignore the fact I can’t and don’t want to “fix” you…your choice to follow an extremist ideology is yours, and it’s for the police and the law, the police and law you decry, to stop you harming other. DBS is one way that works, as you spam on your refusal to read a Jew’s posts. (in any detail at least…but that you have of course makes you feel you’re lowered given your expressed ideology, because I’m Jewish, right)

          • WTF

            I don’t believe you are Jewish as they have more nobel prizes than any other ethnic group and if there was a prize for being the dumbest, you’d easily win.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            “U N JEW, JEW”
            “JEWS R DUMB”

            Same old.

          • WTF

            Get help Wolfie !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Being beaten by thugs is not helpful, I hate to tell you.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Your far right thugs can go here;

            77-83 Pavilion Rd, London SW1X 0ET

          • WTF

            I’ve no idea where it is or what it is but I guess that’s it for now.

            Catch you later “Lying Wolfie” !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you have no idea about your fantasy, but yet you keep spewing nonsense…it’s you.

          • Disqus Bolloqus

            The answer depends on whether you are willing to risk peadophiles and sexual predators working with children. So my answer is a clear yes.What’s yours?

          • WTF

            I was asking Wolfie as he and that Wizard seem unable to answer it.

            My position has been very clear from the beginning, I want full DBS (CRB) checks if a UK citizen and you want to work with kids and police certificates for immigrants for the same reasons. No clearance then no interaction with kids for Brits and no entry for migrants, its very simple.

          • Disqus Bolloqus

            Fair enough. At least we can agree on one thing!

          • WTF

            I just wish I could get Wolfie to speak plain English over this as all I’ve got from him is a “qualified support” for DBS but he refuses to say what the qualifiers or caveats are. I’m not aware of any ‘escape’ or ‘get out’ clauses under the DBS checks but clearly he wants some to let certain people off the hook but refuses say what they are. As for immigrant police certificates, he is adamant they shouldn’t be necessary whilst I believe they should be for the same reasons as DBS checks.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            No, I’m not you.

        • Disqus Bolloqus

          God?

      • Leon Wolfeson

        Indeed, but really – WTF is using a Swastika in his avatar, do you think there will really be rational discussion on this?

        France’s problem of separate communities is one which, sadly, is also growing in America, and many of the nastier proposed “solutions” here would also replicate the issue.

        (There’s real solid things we can do. Starting with stopping licking the Saudi’s toes – the PM’s crawling there was sickening – and blocking the Wahibbist funding and preachers they send here, and instead supporting i.e. the Barelvi (especially as prison immans, etc.))

      • GenJackRipper

        What bad situation will be worse with Trump’s policies?

        • Disqus Bolloqus

          Terrorist threat and war

    • Augustus

      “I think Islam hates us. We have to be very vigilant. We have to be very careful. And we can’t allow people coming into this country who have this hatred of the United States.”
      -Trump on CNN, 9th March.

      The man’s certainly prescient.

    • Leon Wolfeson

      So you say there’s no evidence for why his sort of policies, which have failed in the past… as you say facts about your views… when you’re so insecure.. as you talk about the sort of crime you only care about to glorify your True Leader and are exactly the sort of things past totalitarian states… as you blame all Muslims…

      • WTF

        Oooops, we’re back to Yoda speak when facts are posted, best go and lie down for a bit !

        • Leon Wolfeson

          Yes, you’re back to your fantasies. All your personalities, it seems.
          As you threaten me.

          • WTF

            The power of the pen ?

          • Leon Wolfeson

            …If you don’t mean it, don’t type it.

          • WTF

            But I mean what I type because it all based on fact.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Oh, so you say that your warnings about your issues are facts, and hence you’re in a sorry state and should be pitied? Hmm.

            Also, you mean your threat, it’s a fact eh? Oh dear.
            I get you mean your Fash views, given your choice of insignia.

          • WTF

            Psychological projection alert AGAIN !

            another rant of nonsense.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Yes, I agree, you’re projecting again.
            And posting nonsense.

          • WTF

            Repetition Alert Again !

            Repeating every time what I post doesn’t work, you have to be original to be taken seriously not that there’s much chance of that ! Try again.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you object to the truth, as you repeat your whining.

            Highlighting your silly susyem of alerting people to your issues… as you say you can’t take boring facts seriously, and project that into some conspiracy theory where people must believe as you do…

            I’ll stick with the facts.

          • WTF

            Your fantasy facts maybe !

          • Maureen Fisher

            I can never unravel anything remotely comprehensible from his posts.

          • WTF

            There must be some medical name for it like Asperger or perhaps ADD but I’ve yet to positively nail his ailment and troubled mind.

          • Maureen Fisher

            Probably not worth the effort.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            You haven’t managed to put a nail through my head no, Fash, as you pretend to be a mental health professional.

            The actual term is “does not agree with your nasty views”.

          • WTF

            I don’t need to do anything thing to you as you’re doing very well on your own self destructing.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Ah, so your plan to “destruct” me… as I’m not going to commit suicide for you.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            No, the very real facts, Fash, you deny.

          • WTF

            It would seem that many others think you ought to be put away for your own safety let alone others !

            Now answer that question-

            Do you believe that for certain jobs such as voluntary work with
            children or in healthcare to foster or adopt a child, people should be
            required to submit themselves to Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS)
            checks as required by UK law ? yes or no !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            No, no matter how many personalities you have you’re one person, as you say Jews must be “put away” for the “safety” of your Fash ideology.

            As the question of why you refuse to accept any form of support for your enemy, DBS…

          • WTF

            Severe Delusion Alert !

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Well, that’s your issue. Take your meds for said delusions then.

            Again, you are one person.

    • Maureen Fisher

      Or has he indiscriminately bombed or droned civilians in far away countries or detained them without trial as the liberal Obama and Clinton have done?

      • WTF

        This week marked the longest time EVER that an American president has been at war somewhere around the globe. For the whole of Obamas time in office, American troops have been some where across the globe fighting their corner. In Syria and even Afghanistan there’s an increase in the number of “ADVISORS” who are being deployed just like LBJ did in Vietnam. Now it might be the case they are needed but why lie about it by spinning it as civilian advisors when they are military in combat gear !

        • Maureen Fisher

          Indeed. He was awarded a Nobel Peace prize. He’s about as peaceful as the ROP.

  • Muttley

    Well, let’s hope for Trump then.

  • SeaNote

    The good news is the next President will last one term, but only if not impeached.

  • Sue Smith

    I don’t know why my comment is “waiting to be approved” since it has nothing whatsoever which could be construed as offensive!!

    Send in the clowns; don’t bother, they’re here!!

    • WTF

      It happens, don’t know why but their screening algorithm is cr** !

      • Sue Smith

        Thanks for the heads up on this!

    • Maureen Fisher

      You have obviously used a word that isn’t approved by their bot in Iowa – probably something that is “offensive” to Americans. Waiting for approval means it will be held in purdah for eternity.

  • Norton Folgate

    I think this piece says quite a lot about how the wider world will view a Trump presidency: http://bit.ly/1U8I6X8 Maybe Hilary wouldn’t be so bad…

  • Connecticut Farmer

    Pace Mr. Buckley, I think her term (singular) in office will be, er, “interesting.”

  • CPT

    An easy heuristic for the election is this- if a pundit didn’t think Trump would be the GOP nominee after New Hampshire’s primary, don’t trust his or her opinion on Trump’s chances vs. Clinton.

  • John_Twiss

    This is a long winded and highly misleading diatribe that is in essence a smear campaign by a small minded bigot who cannot get his way. One thing that the Sanders campaign and the Drumpf’s campaign have in common is the thuggery evinced by their followers. Disgusting is the most appropriate description.

    • GenJackRipper

      When did Trump followers attack other candidates events and beat up cops?

      The Drumpf thing is kind of old. His family anglified their name when coming to America; just as millions other did.

  • Dr Corvus

    If Hillary wins, she will open the borders while bombing the world. If Trump wins, he will build a wall but leave the world un-bombed. To most ordinary people the world over, who make money in ordinary ways and participate in ordinary communities, that looks like a pretty simple choice.

    • Vinnie

      exactly – it infuriates me how people twist the words of Trump and make out that he is for war – he’s been against every intervention since 9/11.

    • GenJackRipper

      Indeed. Painting Trump as some sort of neocon, when the GOP neocons hate him for not loving the Iraq War and NATO is absurd.

  • salieri

    Just for the record – and for the next time you use it, Mr.B – the correct word is “quidquid”. ‘Quisquis means whoever.

    • Jonah Varlik

      Whatever…

  • Reid Dalton

    Isn’t this image of Republicans holding their noses and voting for Hillary Clinton in order to avoid putting Donald Trump in the White House a little dated now? It carried some resonance during the heat of the primary battles, but no longer. Like disappointed Sanders voters, some #NeverTrump followers may not vote on November’s Election Day, or they may vote for Gary Johnson and William Weld – particularly in those precincts once carried by John Anderson – but they aren’t going to be pulling any levers or punching any chads for Hillary Clinton. Whatever evils one risks by inviting the Trumps into the White House can not exceed in any Republican’s imagination the evils that have been demonstrably proven, time and time again, to emanate from a Clinton White House. As it has been in the past so it shall be in the future.

    If anyone were in danger of forgetting the reasons why that isn’t going to happen, all one need do is read Mr. Buckley’s column above to remind oneself of only the creme de la creme of the lot.

    • GenJackRipper

      Indeed so. There are sure to be more Democrats voting Trump than Republicans voting Hillary.

      Trump already brought in millions of independents and democrats in the primaries, he is sure to bring in disgruntled Sanders voters and people not that keen on getting Crooked Hillary and Rapist Bill in the White House.

  • Jonah Varlik

    The picture accompanying the article bears a very horrible resemblance to Reichsfuhrer Merkel. A terrifying thought strikes: Perhaps they are one and the same. Has anyone ever seen them together?

  • cestusdei

    Dictatorships can be dull and that is what we will have. The Republic is dead.

  • GenJackRipper

    This was a really bad piece of writing.

    Mussolini on 5th Avenue? Nice. Is this The Guardian?
    More Democrats vote Trump than Republicans vote Hillary.

    Trump already brought in millions of independents and democrats in the
    primaries, he is sure to bring in disgruntled Sanders voters and people
    not that keen on getting Crooked Hillary and Rapist Bill in the White
    House.

    And painting him as a war-monger when he is strongly against NATO, strongly against the Iraq War, the Balkan War, the Libyan War and the purposed Syrian War.
    He wants good relations with Russia, and you think Trump will lead to war?

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