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Compared to Trump, Hillary can't be that bad. Can she?

Facing Donald Trump could make any candidate look good. Except perhaps this one

12 December 2015

9:00 AM

12 December 2015

9:00 AM

The presidential campaign here in the land hymned by one of its earliest immigrants as a shining ‘city on a hill’ looks more and more likely to boil down to electing Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton.

It is of course possible that the party of Lincoln and Reagan will not go completely off its meds and nominate Mr Trump. It’s possible, too, that the wretched FBI agents tasked with reading Mrs Clinton’s 55,000 private emails will experience a Howard Carter/King Tut’s tomb moment and find one instructing Sidney Blumenthal to offer Putin another 20 per cent of US uranium production in return for another $2.5 million donation to the Clinton Foundation, plus another $500,000 speech in Moscow. Absent such, Mrs Clinton will be the Democratic nominee. As we say here: deal with it.

Only last summer, her goose seemed all but cooked. Every day she offered another Hillary-ous explanation for why as Secretary of State she required two Blackberries linked to unclassified servers. Eventually this babbling brook of prevarication became so tedious that even her Marxist challenger, Comrade Bernie Sanders of the Vermont Soviet, was moved to thump the debate podium and proclaim: ‘I’m sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails!’ (He has since backtracked, declaring himself now deeply interested in her damn emails.)

Drums, meanwhile, were beating along the Potomac for VP Joe Biden to jump into the race, prompted by a truly heart-wrenching story that his splendid son Beau had begged him to do so on his deathbed. This narrative was corrected; which is to say, Beau did not in fact beg his father to run. But by this point, Biden’s Hamlet turn had run on a bit too long and he withdrew — to heaving sighs of relief in Camp Clinton.

As her path to White House cleared, the Republicans became infatuated with a blow-dried blowhard real-estate developer who makes Ozymandias sound like Little Nell, and an affable but strange neuro-surgeon doppelgänger of Chance the Gardener. Mrs Clinton is not Irish, but luck like this is downright Hibernian.

It’s still a long, boggy slog to Tipperary. But the Republican establishment (what’s left of it) is now seriously bracing itself for a Trump nomination. And so the time has come for us to ask ourselves: what point is there left in opposing Hillary Clinton? Fun as it is to fulminate and decry against her myriad peccadilloes and villainies — to what end? Cui bono? The Orange Ozymandias.

But, OK, let’s rehearse the damn — as Comrade Sanders would put it — arguments.

The presumptive next president of the United States is viewed as ‘honest’ and ‘trustworthy’ by less than 40 per cent of the electorate. Call us naive, but some Americans stubbornly cling to the notion that our leaders shouldn’t always look as though they’re thinking: ‘Which lie did I tell?’ Nor do we like to be played for fools, although this may seem a questionable assertion in the era of Trump Ascendant. Still, when someone who wades hip-deep in Wall Street money — $3 million in speeches, $17 million in campaign contributions — tells us that she will have no truck with the evil barons of finance, it’s hard to keep a straight face.


But never mind us — how does she manage? When you and your husband have banked $125 million in speaking fees from the odious malefactors of wealth, and you insist that you feel the pain of the middle class. How do you maintain the deadpan after you’ve cashed $300,000 for a half-hour speech at a state university — which fee comes from student dues — and then declaim against crippling student loans?

Small lies are often more revealing, especially when there was no need for them. Claiming, say, that you were named after Sir Edmund Hillary when you were born six years before he became a household name; or that you sought to enlist in the US Marines after years of protesting against the Vietnam War, graduating from Yale Law School and working on the campaigns of Eugene McCarthy and George McGovern; or that you dodged sniper fire on the tarmac in Bosnia, when TV footage shows you strolling across it, smiling.

And what — hello? — about that tweet last September about how ‘Every survivor of sexual assault deserves to be heard, believed, and supported.’ Does that include the women who say they were groped by your husband, and the one who says she was raped? Pace Mary McCarthy on Lillian Hellman: ‘Every word she [says] is a lie, including “and” and “the”.’

Changing one’s position on an issue isn’t the same as lying, but along with the ‘Which lie did I tell?’ thought bubble permanently hovering over Mrs Clinton’s head, one sees too the licked finger held aloft. The American lingo for this is ‘flip-flop,’ as in the rubber sandal thingies you wear on the beach before going inside to give a $200,000 speech to Goldman Sachs.

Mrs Clinton’s flip-flop closet has reached Imelda Marcos levels. There’s the Iraq War vote flip-flop; the gay marriage flip-flop; the Keystone Pipeline flip-flop; the legalising marijuana flip-flop; and most recently, the Trans-Pacific Partnership flip-flop.

And yet, as you work your way down this bill of attainder you feel like an old village scold. Another member of the ‘vast right-wing conspiracy’. A tiresome ancient mariner, banging on at the wedding.

There’s nothing new there. It’s all been gone into, again and again. This election isn’t about the past. It’s about the future.

And before you know it, you too, like Comrade Bernie — the prior version, anyway — are sick and tired of hearing yourself whinge. Because it has all been gone into before. It’s all ‘damn’ stuff now. Mrs and Mr Clinton have been with us since 1992, our political lares et penates — and after all this time, less than half the electorate think she’s honest.

During one of the 2008 Democratic debates, the moderator asked her about the, er, ‘likeability factor’. It was a cringey moment. One’s heart (I say this sincerely) went out to the lady. The shellac deadpan mask melted. She smiled bravely, tears forming, and answered demurely with a hurt, girlish smile and said: ‘Well, that hurts my feelings.’

Whereupon candidate Obama interjected, with the hauteur and sneer of cold command that we’ve come to know so well: ‘You’re likable enough, Hillary.’

The nervous laughter in the auditorium quickly curdled into chill disdain. How could he! But, lest we slip into sentimentality, let me quote Christopher Hitchens on this anniversary of his death, who in 2008 wrote: ‘The case against Hillary Clinton for president is open-and-shut. Of course, against all these considerations you might prefer the newly fashionable and more media-weighty notion that if you don’t show her enough appreciation, and after all she’s done for us, she may cry.’ Christopher, thou shouldst be living at this hour.

When the latest version of Hillary was rolled out like a new product by her campaign apparatus, she was rebranded as a doting granny. What’s more ‘likeable’ than a granny? Unfortunately for her, the meme didn’t stick. But then it’s hard to look like a cooing old sweetie when you’re swatting away snarling congressmen on Benghazi and explaining that you’re suddenly against a trade treaty you promoted for years. None of this does much for the likeability or honesty factor.

Mrs Clinton has her champions to be sure, but it’s been a long slog for them, too, with an awful lot of heavy lifting. When her choir cranks up to sing her praise, one detects the note of obbligato, not genuine ardour.

If it does come down next November to Trump vs Clinton we will — all of us — be presented with a choice even the great Hobson could not have imagined. And those of us who would sooner leap into an active, bubbling volcano than vote for Mr Trump will have to try to convince ourselves that really, she’s not that bad. Is she?

I’ll let Bertie Wooster have the last word: ‘It is no use telling me there are bad aunts and good aunts. At the core, they are all alike. Sooner or later, out pops the cloven hoof.’

Christopher Buckley is an American novelist, essayist and critic, and a former speechwriter to George H.W. Bush.

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  • Terence Hale

    Hi,
    “Hillary Clinton can’t be that bad, can she? Well…”. To be President of America is like being the
    statue of liberty. Mrs. Clinton remain answerable to much, the Haiti earthquake money, inducibility of a number of situations that have necessitated a human dust bin lid.

    • Marshal Phillips

      Haiti’s earthquake money? Surely you jest!
      You forgot the murder of Vince Foster and Bush’s 9/11.

      • Cyril Sneer

        Lionel Richie made a song for the Haiti earthquake… it’s quite catchy ‘Dancing on the ceiling’.

        • Marshal Phillips

          American blacks support Hillary overwhelmingly. Her husband was called the first black president.

          • Cyril Sneer

            Well they would, like they supported Obama because he was ‘black’. And look how that turned out.

            It’s all a lie though as Obama is not black but half caste.

          • Marshal Phillips

            They are Democrats and support Democrats black or white, male or female.
            And they still support Obama!
            After 8 years of Bush every single economic indicator has vastly improved under Obama. On Bush’s watch US had worst terrorist attack ever, 9/11, and the worst economic meltdown since the Great Depression.
            Stay tuned for another Democrat in the White House.

          • Cyril Sneer

            That great provided you’re still happy to continue funding Al Qaeda and ISIS with your tax dollars like you’ve been doing in Syria for ooh about 4 years now. But I daresay you won’t know much about that because American media would rather you didn’t know.

          • Marshal Phillips

            UK & US are two peas in a pod.
            Syria is an enemy of US and presently US is droning and bombing them
            US is funding Israel, an enemy of Syria.

          • Cyril Sneer

            “UK & US are two peas in a pod.”

            Indeed they are, and this needs to stop.

            Syria wasn’t really an enemy the USA just made it so. Something about Qatari gas pipelines, economic war against russia and of course reducing Iranian influence because how dare they take an interest in countries within their local sphere.

          • Marshal Phillips

            UK & US have always been two peas in a pod from the very beginning of the creation of the state of Israel in the middle east.
            And the rest of the story has always been about the OIL.
            It is what it is.

          • Cyril Sneer

            Israel is the shining jewel in a sea of Islamic mud.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Israel and the Arabs have been fighting since the beginning of the creation of Israel among the Arabs.
            They will continue to squabble like a bad marriage with irreconcilable differences for ever and evermore.

  • less2sam

    You lost all credibility after calling Bernie a marxist

  • Toy Pupanbai

    Anything has to be better than Hillary!
    The Trump of Doom!

    • sir_graphus

      Anyone except Trump.

      • sidor

        Are you afraid that the Moslem immigration will be reduced?

    • Sue Smith

      El Tupe has made some horrible remarks about London. And Boris is hopping mad. They’re all worried about the tourist trade, of course, and they have a right to be!!!

    • George

      Considering Trump is the only candidate who has signaled any sort of desire to depart from the accelerating march toward globalist corporate totalitarianism, the vote is between Trump and Everyone Else.

  • Marshal Phillips

    If Trump is elected will he be permitted to visit the UK?

    • The_greyhound

      No, in case the voters here want him for Prime Minister.

      • Marshal Phillips

        Not likely in light of the 500,000 UK petitioners who want to ban Trump in UK.

        • John Hawkins Totnes

          Nobody is counting how many people would welcome him.

          • Marshal Phillips

            And prolly with good reason.

          • John Hawkins Totnes

            Yes, it feels good not to know who disagrees with us.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Why not take a poll? UK has polls for almost anything and everything.

          • Cyril Sneer
          • Cyril Sneer

            Yes in the same way they (the MSM) bury anything that doesn’t suit the establishment narrative.

          • Marshal Phillips

            UK aliening itself with Trump, the fascist, doesn’t look too good.
            In US even the establishment wing of the Republican Party disapproves of Trump’s call to ban a religious group, all Muslims. And a majority of Americans also disapprove of banning a specific religion. It’s unAmerican.

          • Cyril Sneer

            You could always emigrate to Syria.

          • Marshal Phillips

            I’m quite happy living in South Brazil, thanks; and we do have plenty of Syrian people here.

          • Cyril Sneer

            Probably for the best, I don’t think there will be a place for liberals in the future.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Yes, I live in the best city in South America with guest visa and am quite happy, along with my home in USA life is good.

        • Randal

          There were about 18 million who didn’t want Cameron as PM at the last election, but he still is, because of the 11 million who did.

          • Marshal Phillips

            It’s call an election.

          • Randal

            Just pointing out that counting only numbers who dislike someone is no guide to whether or not they could be prime minister (and taking another opportunity to point out the thinness of the “Conservative” Party’s claim to a mandate to govern).

          • Marshal Phillips

            Election polling has been surprisingly correct now that pollsters are polling cell phones too.

        • Cyril Sneer

          So that’s 59,500,000 who don’t mind if he visits the country.

          Does the following petition with 449,000 signatures mean that we close the borders to further immigration until ISIS is defeated?

          https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/107516

        • TheJustCity

          So the whole of the blue-haired Grauniad readership and a few blocs of their heroically-indignant Islamists, signed an internet petition. Jog on!

          • Marshal Phillips

            A few may be blue-haired Islamists; majority are fair-haired Christians and atheists.

        • Child_of_Thatcher

          250 000 of which come from a council flat in Tower Hamletss

          • Marshal Phillips

            Evidence?

          • Child_of_Thatcher

            Sense of humour?

    • mumble

      A fair question. After all, they let Piers Morgan back in.

      • Marshal Phillips

        Isn’t Piers a Brit? Trump’s not.

        • mumble

          Yes, but they have in common that a petition was got up to keep them out of the UK.

          It was worth a try, many felt.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Meanwhile back in US Trump’s own church issued a statement condemning him. He represents only about 25% of the Republican Party base; it’s mathematically impossible for him to be elected to the US presidency because of US political system Electoral College. Stay tuned.

          • mumble

            An American told me that Trump represents about 10% of the Republican Party base that has at least one university degree and about 45% of the Republican Party base that does not.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Trump speaks for a plurality of today’s Republicans and their bigotry. He just cancelled trips to Israel and Jordan, apparently he’s a liability to peace.

          • Cyril Sneer

            Just such a shame that there are muslim countries out there that refuse entry to Israeli passport holders.

            I’m still waiting for the outcry from the left calling these muslims states fascist…. I think we could be waiting a while.

          • Marshal Phillips

            I’m still waiting for Cyril Sneer’s outcry calling Trump a fascist.
            I think I will be waiting awhile.

          • Cyril Sneer

            Yes you will be waiting a long time as he isn’t fascist but why don’t you also call him racist, that’ll show the damn rotter.

          • Marshal Phillips

            He’s both, of course.

          • Cyril Sneer

            Oh I’m sure the name calling will have him cancel his campaign as calling people racist or fascist will always stop those damn anti-immigration far-right xenophobes won’t it? I mean just look at the Front Nationale…

          • Marshal Phillips

            He’s already cancelled Israel and Jordan and prolly won’t be making a trip to UK anytime soon, certainly not to Scotland!
            Polls show that a majority of Americans do NOT like him! And for good reason: his own public statements that show racist and fascist ideas about people. His own party will reject him. Stay tuned.
            It is what it is.

          • Cyril Sneer

            He’s invested about $200 million in Scotland. He’s welcome to come to blighty and invest it here.

            Do you believe in silencing people you do not agree with? The national socialist workers party would agree.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Free Speech isn’t silence; it’s freedom of expression.
            He’s not too popular in Scotland now.
            Money isn’t the only factor in life for evaluating value.

          • Cyril Sneer

            Is he not? How do you know? There are more than 400k people in the British Isles.

            I guess then if that petition signifies the entire population of the British Isles do not want him here then what the fudge do we make of this petition?

            https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/107516

            It seems just as many people support Trumps policy as do people who dislike him.

            I guess 449,000 people are now fascist. Ho hum.

          • Marshal Phillips

            He’s not too popular in SCOTLAND!

          • Cyril Sneer

            How do you know, there are 5 million people in Scotland.

            So according to your petition, that’s 4,500,000 people who are not fussed by what he said.

            The same number of people want to close borders to muslims as those who do not want Trump to cross our border.

            Ban trump, ban muslims… ok?

          • Marshal Phillips

            Trump is not so popular in Scotland from my reading of the press and media there in Scotland. Maybe there will be a poll done in Scotland?
            Trump doesn’t have the full and complete support of his own party in US and will NOT get the nomination. Even NOW the Establishment Wing of the Republican Party is desperately trying to figure out how to deal with a brokered GOP convention. And Trump has suggested he will go for a 3rd party try which would doom him for sure as 3rd party candidates in US have always failed.
            US polls show that Hillary Clinton would beat him!

          • Cyril Sneer

            Well I wouldn’t pay too much attention to the media, they’re propaganda merchants. Look here at the Guardian, read the article, then read the comments below.

            The Guardian is the home of the left wing:
            http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/11/the-media-needs-to-tell-the-truth-on-migration-not-peddle-myths

          • Marshal Phillips

            Today “the media” is so much more than a few newspapers and TV channels. We have so many more outlets from the Internet and other sources.
            Trump has used fighting words and has incited more hatred in US and elsewhere.
            In US the democratic process will eliminate Trump. Stay tuned!

          • Cyril Sneer

            Yes but most people only watch/read the MSM, sadly.

            The most dangerous propaganda is the one that comes from media sources that are still regarded as credible… the BBC, The Guardian etc – John Pilger has said this too.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Actually today “most people” have Smart Phones and Internet access and are prolly even more informed than ever before.
            You are free to believe what you will.
            But it is mathematically impossible for Trump to win the presidency of the United States because 1) He is Republican, a minority party; and 2) because of the Electoral College votes which favor big states which are Democratic.
            It is what it is.

          • Cyril Sneer

            Yes some are more informed and the internet has allowed this yet most still frequent the same mainstream media sites. Although I do think that the propaganda is so bad now that it’s almost impossible not to be aware something is amiss.. that’s just my take on it.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Not sure that’s correct, but certainly more people have more access to more political views, news, information, and opinions than ever before in history.
            “Propaganda” has always been amiss, now we have more propaganda too.
            And Donald Trump is ALL about propaganda, just a rich blowhard spouting his “populist/elitist” nonsense.
            And BTW, this guy has been all over the map in politics, Democrat, liberal, conservative, Tea Party, whatever, he’s been there, done that.

          • ADELANTE CON CLINTONS

            Dont you worry, Clinton competence will soon be back at 1600 after 15 years of boneheaded leadership .

          • James Sykes

            Who is?

          • Marshal Phillips

            Guess

          • Gilbert White

            Millions do not want Shaker hereA except for the Daily Mail readers.

          • John Standley

            prolly??

          • Marshal Phillips

            yup, short for probably

          • Child_of_Thatcher

            Evidence?

          • Marshal Phillips

            His remarks and proposals for dealing with Mexicans and Muslims in America are similar to Hitler’s about the Jews.

          • StaceyPokorney

            Fortunately for Trump, college degrees are not required in order to vote.

          • Child_of_Thatcher

            Just like it was supposed to be for George Bush

          • Marshal Phillips

            Nope, not at all. Al Gore won the popular vote, Bush was given the presidency not by the people, but by the US Supreme Court by a divided court.

          • Child_of_Thatcher

            In 2004?

    • Cyril Sneer

      Yes he will.

  • sidor

    Someone once placed Cherie Blair in between lady Macbeth and madam Clinton. I wonder if in this sequence of order Cherie was meant to be a nicer person than Hillary?

    • freddiethegreat

      I’d call it a tie. In fact, has anyone ever seen them together?

      • sidor

        Oh yes. More than enough. When the husbands still were in their offices.

  • Freddythreepwood

    Thanks for the Wooster quote. Saved the day. I was beginning to feel suicidal.

    • freddiethegreat

      Hilary the nephew-crusher?

      • Freddythreepwood

        Not sure Bertie could cope with another aunt. I’ll bung a bread roll at him if I see him in the Drones tonight and ask him.

  • freddiethegreat

    Just as Goofy would have been better than Obama, even Lady Macbeth would be better than Hilary(!)

  • GUBU

    I feel your pain.

    Just as the Democratic Party managed to get the first black president elected by choosing the whitest black man they could find, it appears they will now attempt to get the first woman elected to the White House by selecting the least feminine candidate available, in this case the Clinton who has clearly always worn the trousers (and had no difficulty keeping them on – unlike her husband).

    Whilst Mr Trump may enjoy the frisson generated by his remarks about various minorities, his principal selling point as a candidate is his constant assertion that he knows how to run things.

    I find this claim utterly risible, given his complete inability to manage a sensible hairstyle. I assume that it is his own hair, as no self respecting man attempting to hide his baldness would consider wearing such a ludicrous contraption on his head.

    • robbydot

      That’s definitely his hair, you couldn’t get a syrup like that!

      • GUBU

        Indeed.

        What does he dry it with? An electric whisk?

  • lookout

    13 hours, Benghazi.

  • The Laughing Cavalier

    ” … can’t be that bad, can she?” Oh yes she is.

    • jeffersonian

      …and then some.

      • flipkipper

        Guys, weren’t the last ten years a right disaster for the US on the world stage?
        Wait till you get to live the next ten years.

  • Mike Nelson

    It’s the year 2021. President Trump and Prime Minister Corbyn meet for ‘talks’. Oh, to be a fly on the the wall at that one!

    • Morris Jasper

      Perhaps this?

      The double doors are finally closed on the prying eyes of the press pack, the two men had avoided this moment, for as long as they thought their hearts could hold out, yet now, through forces of inevitability, far stronger than anything imagined by Marx, they stood before each other. After an enduring silence of mere seconds, little more than a few quivering heartbeats, they both felt as though an eternity had passed. They hesitantly attempted to perform an awkwardly manoeuvred, and what would be at best, frosty handshake. But in this most vital of moments, Corbyn nervously looses momentum & swoons. Instinctively, Trump reaches out, purposefully & manfully, he protectively grasps the flailing Trot, and sweeps him into his Herculean, oak like arms. Initially flustered, Corbyn blurts out in a coquettish & breathless falsetto “Why Mr. President…how can I ever thank you?” To which, the leader of the free world replies, “Please, you can call me Daddy” & then reaches in, to claim that which he knew was rightfully his, all along…

      • Mike Nelson

        Corbyn and Abbott was difficult enough to imagine … but this? I’m simply not imaginative enough.

    • Sunshine Sux

      The USA will still exist under Trump, Britain under Corbyn, not so much.

    • Guinnessmonkey

      Corbyn won’t even hold onto the Labour Party for that long, let alone ever be elected PM.

  • James Morgan

    Ah yes. Christopher Hitchens. I do miss that man.

    • Randal

      Yes, because yet another ageing neocon warmonger and “former communist” idiot is just what we are missing around here these days.

      • TheJustCity

        No, it’s because we need a stylish debunker of the diseased doctrines of the nu-Left.

  • WFB56

    The long and the short of it is a choice between a crook and a whack job.

    Hopefully saner heads will prevail on the Republican side as anyone but Trump or Carson could beat Hillary.

    • Guinnessmonkey

      Unless, you know, you believe polling, which shows her CRUSHING Cruz and routinely beating Rubio.

      • jackbenimble333

        Head to head polling is meaningless at this point. They have no predictive power whatsoever. They are just something for the media to talk about.

        But Hillary’s personal numbers are interesting. How are her net favorable/unfavorables shaping up?

  • Curnonsky

    Quite, Chris, but tell us again why you came out in support of Obama in 2008?

  • Mr. Bernard Wijeyasingha

    Hillary Clinton is downright horrible
    -She sat along with Obama, the Cabinet sat in the “Situation Room” and watched the horror of Benghazi, including the murder of an American Ambassador and the destruction of the American Consulate
    On REAL TIME and did nothing.
    -Hillary is the voice of Obama including all his policies ranging from Obama care to Open borders.
    -Hillary belongs to the “Dynasty” of the Clinton family. She is a nightmare.

    • colchar

      I am no fan of hers but what did you expect her to do during Benghazi? She couldn’t go do anything herself, nor could she order anything done.

      • Mr. Bernard Wijeyasingha

        Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State and she was getting E-mails from them to rescue them. She did nothing when as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had the power to rescue them. I believe an order to stand down was given. That is criminal

        • Guinnessmonkey

          You can believe whatever you want, I guess. Numerous investigations have all concluded that the “stand down order” never happened. Once things kicked off in Benghazi it was too late for anyone in Washington to do anything about it.

          • Mr. Bernard Wijeyasingha

            Then if it was “too late’ on the immediate crisis the following steps should have been taken. Instead the whole issue was denied, warped, lied and twisted out of context.

          • Guinnessmonkey

            What “following steps”? Again, it was investigated multiple times. No fault was found in the way the actual attack was dealt with by any of the investigations.

          • Mr. Bernard Wijeyasingha

            The US Congress and other Federal bodies do not agree with you. The results of the investigations will come out in 2016. Here are two excerpts:

            last week, Hillary Clinton went before a committee. She admitted she had sent e-mails to her family saying, ‘Hey, this attack at Benghazi was caused by Al Qaida-like elements.’ She spent over a week telling the families of those victims and the American people that it
            was because of a video. And yet the mainstream media is going around saying it was the greatest week in Hillary Clinton’s campaign. It was the week she got exposed as a liar.
            (Washington Post)

            Also
            on September 20, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton gave a classified briefing to U.S. Senators, which several Republican attendees criticized According to the article,
            senators were angered at the Obama administration’s rebuff of their attempts to learn details of the Benghazi attack, only to see that information published the next day in The
            New York Times and The Wall Street Journal. (Benghazi Scandal Wikipedia)

            Please Google and find out. YOU ARE WRONG!!!

          • Guinnessmonkey

            Ok, you start your post by saying “the US Congress and other Federal bodies do not agree with you.” To support your assertion you quote an op-ed from the Post and the wiki page; neither source even mentions the results of Congressional investigations or “Federal bodies”, nor do either go to Clinton’s response to the attack itself.

            Instead you just posted stuff that went to the “she knew it was a terrorist attack but then said it wasn’t” nonsense, even though that’s been explained by the investigations.

            I’m not sure that engaging in rational argument is really your thing. Perhaps you should stop doing it.

          • Mr. Bernard Wijeyasingha

            If you are English then I fully understand why England is such a mess
            I also fully understand why nitwits like you back in 1776 lost the US over a 3 cent tax.

          • Headstrong

            Bravo Bernie! When challenged, you can always resort to personal attacks, right?

          • Headstrong

            Bernie doesn’t believe in rational argument. If you question him, he goes all ballistic.
            Note how in an ongoing debate, Bernie loses all balance and lets forth his true colours – atimes.com/2015/10/after-dodging-war-crimes-probe-lanka-focuses-on-truth-reconciliation/
            I quote his comments – “Sooner than later there will be bomb attacks in your Hindu India. WHEN (and not if) that happens and HINDU women, children babies and adults are BLOWN UP I am going to celebrate. DIE DIE DIE YOU FILTHY HINDUS I HOPE ISIS GETS TO YOUR INDIA AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I WANT TO SEE THOUSANDS OF YOU HINDUS BLOWN UP”
            He’s obsessed with getting votes and gets very pissed off if someone up votes anybody contesting his claims. Then, if it’s a woman, he insinuates some seriously obscene stuff. See his comments to a woman on this very blog – blogs.new.spectator.co.uk/2015/12/it-is-time-for-britain-to-join-the-fight-against-islamic-state-in-syria/
            There’s lots more. Bernie is a seriously psycho case – be warned!

          • StaceyPokorney

            “Once things kicked off in Benghazi it was too late for anyone in Washington to do anything about it.”

            I find it truly amazing that so many are willing to give Madame Clinton a free pass on Benghazi using exactly this logic, yet blame George W. Bush for all of the terror that occurred on 9/11.

          • Vox_Clams

            Here is the damning email. The stand down order was issued. To be fair, the only question is whether it came from Clinton, Obama or both.

            From: Bash, Jeremy CIV SD [REDACTED]
            Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 7:19 PM
            To: Sullivan, Jacob J; Sherman, Wendy R; Nides, Thomas R
            Cc: Miller, James HON OSD POLICY; Wienefeld, James A ADM JSC VCJCS; Kelly, John LtGen SD; martin, dempsey [REDACTED]
            Subject: Libya

            State colleagues:

            I just tried you on the phone but you were all in with S [apparent reference to then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton].

            After consulting with General Dempsey, General Ham and the Joint Staff, we have identified the forces that could move to Benghazi. They are spinning up as we speak. They include a [REDACTED].

            Assuming Principals agree to deploy these elements, we will ask State to procure the approval from host nation. Please advise how you wish to convey that approval to us [REDACTED].

            Jeremy

  • The_greyhound

    I enjoyed that article, but please – hearts are rended, guts are wrenched.

    • StaceyPokorney

      Better grow a set, it is going to be a long election year.

  • Terry Field

    She is a self-obsessed, me me me first totally political greaseball. Trump is uncouth, loud, but lacks smoothness as he TELLS IT AS IT BLUDDEE WELL IS. There IS a massive local Muslim worry and that is evidenced by the gore that ran through the transport system of London courtesy of home grown muslim (NOT islamist) killlers.
    He SHOULD get the GOP nomination, since the rest are gutless and dissembling.
    He could well win against that dreadful woman.
    Clinton supported Morsi in Egypt. Blood on her hands.

    • victor67

      And we support Saudi Arabia and supply their weapons that are killing children in Yemen.
      Even more blood on our hands.

      • Terry Field

        Yes, the bleeding heart liberal power elite are murderous hypocrites.

      • Sunshine Sux

        It’s easier to count muslim countries, in which muslims are not killing their own, and other’s, children.

    • Daidragon

      Morsi was democratically elected. The thing we keep telling arabs is the only moral form of government. We then ignored the democratically elected govt being toppled in a military coup and sold loads of arms to the dictatorship. Mixed messages no?

  • mumble

    Well, there’s this (which is also about Hillary):

    The science behind Brian Williams’s mortifying memory flub

  • mumble

    Hillary has the chops, the smarts and the tenacity for the job, and a President who tells the truth could be a disaster (although we may fairly insist that she be a good liar, which, as Mr. Buckley points out, is a concern).

    Indeed, a President whose instinct is to assume that Pakistan is systematically lying to the US about the Taliban and Afghanistan might well be a step forward.

    • WTF

      I guess with Clintons track record of lies its a sort of backhanded compliment she could be good dealing with other Muslim leaders given their propensity to lie to infidels as prescribed by their scriptures.

    • StaceyPokorney

      Why? When Bush the Younger called a spade a spade, he was widely ridiculed for being to undiplomatically honest.

      • mumble

        Werl, prezackly. A diplomatic liar — especially a smart, skilled one — could be a game-changer.

  • Jack Rocks

    What a coincidence. I was just watching Christopher Hitchens talk about Hilary Clinton (no, he’s not been resurrected, these are clips from a while ago).

    • Roger Hudson

      Hitchens, what a loss his death was. Clinton’s passing would be no loss at all.

  • DaviddeAngelis
  • Gilbert White

    Whats the problem the Clinton’s, natural born liars and crooks. She will make an ideal President?

    • sidor

      He is a normal liar. She is a dangerous psychopath.

      • Clive

        As opposed to a fluffy psychopath ?

      • Daidragon

        You’ve got that the wrong way round.

  • logdon
  • She’s evil. You don’t have to dig – it’s written right across her face. The lust for power has corrupted her utterly.

    • sidor

      Power doesn’t corrupt: it just reveals the inherent corruption. Some people are born evil.

  • new_number_2

    War criminal Hillary Clinton: “We came, we saw, he died”.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y

    • right1_left1

      Who was she talking about ?
      Goody Two Shoes or Osama bin Laden ?

    • King Kibbutz

      She is the most poisonous of airheads and will do very well.

    • Roger Hudson

      Totally unfit for any office, dump her.

  • amicus

    An inveterate liar with no set principles? She sounds eminently well qualified.

  • Clive

    I note that ‘Hobson’s choice’ was used in The Spectator of 14th October 1712

    Where to elect there is but one, / ‘Tis Hobson’s choice—take that, or none

  • Patrick Roy

    Trump will win.

    • smoke me a kipper

      Win what? The Republican nomination or the American presidency?

      • Its_All_Baloney

        Either way, if Trump wins America loses.

  • trobrianders

    All leftists like Hillary want to bring back global communism on the back of Islamist terror. They also plan to use extreme violence against Muslims when the time is right because leftism is a white supremacist creed.

    • smoke me a kipper

      How can you bring back something that never existed? And also if you cannot see the difference between a liberal Conservative like Hilary and a Communist, you really need to do some research into political philosophies.

      • Daidragon

        You must be new around here.

    • karen

      Global communism is happening whilst everyone is being distracted by the Islamist threat.

      • King Kibbutz

        The Islamist threat being just a trifling sideshow then?

        • monsieur_charlie

          They are not mutually exclusive.

          • King Kibbutz

            I tend to agree.
            That’s why I thought that the comment to which I responded – which seemed to portray two distinct entities, one minor and acting as decoy – could be an attempt to deflect from, or to play down what actually is an undoubted and urgent threat.

    • King Kibbutz

      That leaves white muslim supremacists in something of a cleft stick.

      • trobrianders

        They’ll be used and discarded.

  • smoke me a kipper

    Trump’s legacy will be four more years of a Democrat White House. There is no way Donald will win the middle ground.

    • Unfortunately I am forced to agree. We are in one of the biggest gambles in all of history. Whether the Western (white) liberalism that has completely seized the narrative within the West can expand and encompass the immigrant communities it has allowed to come and settle here as voting fodder, or whether those immigrants will seek to maintain their existing national, religious and ideological allegiances. If the latter we will collapse like Rome did, but in the meantime, the votes of recent immigrants, together with those on the left who either despise the old order sufficiently, or still believe the experiment will come good, are blocking any firm democratic response. Of course, jerry rigged voting systems don’t help either. I suspect that Thatcher and Reagan were the last chance for the traditionally minded conservative in their respective countries (at least as far as the democratic process), but they declined to really take the fight to the enemy. They spent far too much time worrying about the paper tiger of the USSR

      • Its_All_Baloney

        Perhaps the reason we’re still here is because they took on the USSR, and won.

        For a generation after the USSR collapsed, communism was in complete disarray. Loyal party apparatchiks everywhere basically threw in the towel and walked away, as their “Workers’ Paradise” turned out to be even more evil and inept than its enemies had claimed.

        Even now, communism thrives only through a facelift and a name change. These days, it calls itself “progressivism” and thrives as the “true believer”wing of the Democratic party.

    • Roger Hudson

      And if the GOP reject him he runs as a 3rd party candidate, splits the right and we definitely get Clinton, OMG!
      Remember ‘ vote Nader,get Bush’. That turned out very badly.
      Hold your nose, vote Trump and hope he has a VP like Rand Paul.

      • Fire Marshall Bill

        If Trump wins he nomination it is the end of the GOP.

        • ranklez

          Another nickel for you!

  • John M

    Compared to Trump, Tyson Fury would be an easy decision….

  • John Smith

    Good luck with that USA, another wasted few years

  • Uncle Brian

    If there is one prospective next president of the United States who is even less suited for the job than Donald Trump, it’s the lady from Benghazi.

  • MathMan

    Trump’s ‘crime’ is telling the truth. No politician who tells the truth can succeed.

    • Guinnessmonkey

      Seriously? You think Trump tells the truth too much? The guy just flat-out lies constantly.

      • Ignatius

        Examples?

  • David Prentice

    Even her voice is an evil hiss. Hillary as President with the Muslim Brotherhood’s Huma Abedin as her faithful No.2 …set course for “interesting times”, Mr Sulu.

    • Guinnessmonkey

      Holy crap you people are crazy.

      Even most GOP politicians called it out as absurd when that loonbat from Minnesota called Abedin “Muslim Brotherhood”.

      • jackbenimble333

        Well it is a documented fact that Huma stole $10k from the taxpayers by double dipping on her vacation pay. Of course the Obama justice department declined to prosecute.

  • RS

    Did a member of the Saudi Royal Family seriously call Trump a national disgrace? This is a country where converting from Islam is punishable by death. The lefties should wake up and recognise true fascism when it stares across the room, and the immoral western politicians who have been in bed with this hideous regime for decades.

    • sidor

      Trump should have answered: “Your Wahhabi nation is a disgrace, and will soon be dealt with”.

      • Chris706

        The time is not right. He will get to it, if he gets the chance.

        • Ignatius

          Ya, he need to be in office 1st.

  • Billy Samuels

    Oh yeah, Trumps the man. Born into privilege courtesy of his real estate developer father, he still managed to declare bankruptcy four times costing tax payers, lenders, and businesses who were unpaid for services rendered hundreds of millions of dollars.
    I’ll take Hillary any day over the hot mess of Trump.

    • JLIT99

      I think the article was stating that both are less than ideal candidates for the presidency.

      • Billy Samuels

        I think they were saying Trump vs Clinton is a close call. Of these flawed candidates Hillary is miles better.

        • sidor

          Are you concerned about the perspective of reduced Moslem immigration in the case of Trump presidency?

        • Zekester7659

          Can you point to one good thing hillary has done? or one sensible thing that she advocates?
          i can list several failures of hers. And she is elitist to the core. And she will be much more like Obama than Trump would be; Obama is a total failure.

          A half a can of soup would be a better prez than hillary.

  • godot

    Trump and the Clintons are good buddies, he has donated to the Clinton Foundation. It’s looking more and more as if he is a Democratic mole planted in the Republican party to destroy the Republican brand, thereby paving Hillary’s way to the White House.

    • Gilbert White

      Trump said he was tricked ?

      • Its_All_Baloney

        The only victim of trickery implied in that post is the Gruber who thinks Trump is in this because he wants to make America great again.

  • Gilbert White

    The Americans will elect an half caste but they will never elect a woman?

    • Serenitatis Serenitatus

      Billary isn’t entirely female.

      • jackbenimble333

        Or even remotely human.

  • Child_of_Thatcher

    Chery Blair on steroids

  • Cobbett

    Clinton claims that she wants Feminism at the heart of her Foreign Policy….enough said.

    • Guinnessmonkey

      Yhea, god forbid we use foreign policy to assist the majority of the world’s population, particularly since study after study has shown that female education is a silver bullet for 3rd world development. *eyeroll*

      • Cyril Sneer

        Why would female education be feminism? Since when have feminists ever been educated?

        • Guinnessmonkey

          Are you under the impression that support for equal rights for women is more common among high school dropouts than those who have completed college?

          No, you’re just being stupid.

      • Cobbett

        Bombing countries because they don’t fit your world view is nothing to cheer about….and who’s preventing females from getting an education(in the non-muslim world)

        • Guinnessmonkey

          Who said anything about bombing people? You do understand that there’s more to foreign policy than just launching airstrikes at people, right?

          • Cobbett

            Tell Harlot Hilary and the rest of the Crazy Gang, not me.

    • Ignatius

      Feminism kills a nation. It destroy the family unit. Men become neutered and demoralized, and unable to face national threats.

      • Cobbett

        Well, she did for Libya…and was instrumental in getting her worthless to attack Serbia.

  • Joe Long

    Sounds too close to the loon Merkel for comfort

  • Ronald W. Mann

    Killary is a criminal and Trump is not

  • MattinChicago

    Actually no. Hillary has a proven track record of failure and deception, The Donald is just bombastic and annoying… he’s not responsible for Libya, the failed Russian reset, or what laughably passes for foreign policy in this Administration.

    Hillary is freaking horrible, a trainwreck for the Left… no matter which candidate she faces, she is incapable of being made to look good because she is terrible all on her own.

    • Its_All_Baloney

      Nothing you say is wrong. It’s just that Donald Trump may be the only force in the universe capable of making Hillary look like the lesser of two weevils.

  • Stonewall

    Your father must be turning over in his grave at the lack of judgement and the low level of information you display. You endorsed O in ’08, and now write this pablum? Yikes. What a disappointment you would be to him, and what an opportunity to do good faded away.

  • Fire Marshall Bill

    In the sense of grammar, this was a very poorly written article. Send it back for proof-reading!

  • petegross

    Jonathon Gruber was right.

    • jackbenimble333

      He certainly pegged the left. The right never bought what he was selling.

  • Phil BRABANT

    January 5, 2016 “Donald Trump today said Jewish Bankers on Wall Street were responsible for the economic crash of 2007-2008, citing Goldman-Sachs and others….he said…”Wall Street is filled with Jews….and we must do something about them”

    • 1952rmdg

      Funny, I heard Mr. Trump say that he wanted Carl Ican as his Secretary of Commerce–doesn’t sound very anti-Semitic to me.

    • CPT

      Godwin’s Law.
      Anyway, Trump’s son-in-law is Jewish, and his daughter converted to Judaism. Pretty sure he’s not anti-Semitic.

      • StaceyPokorney

        Yeah, LOL, cuz he would totally date her… ;-D

    • Cyril Sneer

      Socialist hysteria. trying to make out a political opponent is a member of the National Socialist party.

  • shannon martin

    Partisan tripe….I’d love to see any politician survive 20+ years of an opposition-funded media campaign calling them dishonest, end up with the public thinking they are honest. No, instead of using the same old tired attacks and couching them as journalism, how about point out the fact that you media types have been calling her a liar, criminal, and worse for more than 20 years and NONE OF IT HAS STUCK. You know why? Because it was BS when you wrote it, and you knew it even then.

    • Zekester7659

      Seriously? You would have to be brain-dead not to be aware of her many lies. They have video tape these days you know.

      • james r ruston

        So provide one for us.

        • Zekester7659

          Do it yourself – you evidently have the internet. Are you really contending that she hasn’t lied multiple times? If so there is really no point in trying to convince you otherwise.

    • ne14a1e

      Her unethical and dishonest conduct goes back to the Watergate committee. Pretty sure Richard Mellon Scaife didn’t get involved until much later. Sorry.

    • StaceyPokorney

      Um, plenty of it has stuck, if over 50% of the American public thinks she is a liar…

  • ne14a1e

    But she’s been tested under fire. And taken the 3 AM call. Oh wait …

  • miketompkins52

    Sure junior I love her plan for dealing with Isis. Replacing the hate in their hearts with love!

    Go be a democrat because that’s what you are.

    By the way Chris if it weren’t for daddy’s money and it cost a nickel to schit you’d have to throw up.

  • GetRhonda

    I don’t think she stands a chance against Trump. She doesn’t either. You can see it on her face now.

    • Guinnessmonkey

      Are you kidding me? Trump is a dream adversary. In about 30 polls since Trump entered the race, he’s beaten Clinton in exactly 3 of them: One was essentially withdrawn for using bad methodology (It had Trump winning enormous numbers of black and Latino votes, which just is not going to happen) and the others were all Fox News polls. In most she beats him by double digits.

      Sure, I suppose a true believer could craft an argument as to why Trump actually stands a better chance than that against Clinton, but to say that she stands no chance against him is just bizarre.

      • mwayne09

        ^^^ nope

        • Guinnessmonkey

          Way to use arguments and data.

      • Chris706

        Let me start by saying I would prefer Rubio or Carson.

        BUT – if Trump gets the nomination, he will not be shy about going after Hillary. He’s not going to back off because she is a woman. That is pretty clear. In fact, he may have been using Carly and Megan as practice.

        And there is plenty to go after. Just read the article. There are more things that were not mentioned. How many of these things will Trump use? My guess is all of them. In a very unambiguous and abrupt manner, which will be reported far and wide.

        It will be fun to watch Hillary’s head explode on live TV.

        • Guinnessmonkey

          Yes. That’s one of the many reasons why he’s a dream adversary.

          Launching misogynistic insults during debates isn’t a way to win 270 electoral votes.

          Are you somehow under the impression that his willingness to insult her is a strength? Outside of the partisan fringe who have been themselves making sexist jokes about Clinton for years, that kind of behavior is a great way to lose an election.

          • Ignatius

            STOP being politically correct!!! He will say the exact same thing if She is a man. Funny Feminism want equal rights but not equal obligations.

          • Chris706

            He may or may not resort to “misogynistic insults.” It certainly didn’t hurt him with Carly or Megan. But there is a lot of other ways to attack Hillary. A lot. ;D

  • hanekhw

    OK. How much did you get from the Foundation or what position are you bucking for in a Clinton Administration?

    • jackbenimble333

      With the Clintons sometimes, as you imply, it is the carrot. But there was a reason why Hillary was pouring over 900 FBI files early in her Husband’s Administration, They don’t hesitate to use the stick. And then there is that long, long trail of corpses.

  • RichardU

    Why would you have to vote for Hillary? Vote for Trump.

    This is just getting silly how people act like Trump will be the end of the world or something if he were elected. Are elites really that scared of the rest of us electing someone who takes our concerns seriously?

    If you’re scared of how terrible things would be if normal people made the decisions, just look at things like computers and iPhones. Normal people vote with their wallets, and things seem to get better a whole lot faster than when the elites are put in control. So get over yourselves, and embrace a better tomorrow. All you have to do is give up your belief that you are better than everyone else, and the people you want to elect are smarter than everyone else.

    • Its_All_Baloney

      Trump has zero experience in government — even less than Barry the Beginner and a whole pile less than Ma Hillary. We have no idea if, how, or whether he can govern at all. The only window we have on his policies is what he says.

      Yup. Campaign promises. Wait, didn’t we just elect, then reelect, a useless piece of used toilet paper to the oval office based on a big steaming pile of great-sounding campaign promises? So, how’s that working out for us?

      And now, you want us to do the same thing again? Really? Three times in row?

      You know what they say about people who do the same thing over and over again, but keep believing that this time they’ll get a different result ….

      • CPT

        Those are fair points, but Trump has management experience. Most of being a president boils down to delegating things to the right people. He seems to know how to find and promote the right talent.

      • RichardU

        Tie Trump to Obama, then call me insane. Yea, that’s not an attitude that you’re better than me or anything, right?

        If you ever give up that chip on your shoulder, you might notice I’m not your enemy. You might also notice Trump has actually done something with his life, led people, and managed complex organizations far more successfully than our government runs itself.

        And how is electing yet another politician not “doing the same thing over and over again, but believing this time we’ll get a different result” anyways? You want to know what happens if Rubio, Bush, Kasich, etc. get elected? In 2020, we have $25+ trillion in debt, the rich are even richer, the poor even poorer, and far more people who used to be in the middle finding themselves on the losing end of yet another president’s promises. Obamacare will still be a mess, we’ll have 5 million more illegal immigrants, and Republicans will tell you that they just need you to reelect them one more time and you’ll finally get everything you ever wanted. No thanks. I’d rather have someone who is used to being judged on results instead of promises.

  • poggylu

    Republicans have wasted over $70 million of taxpayer dollars investigating Hillary for more than 2 decades. She’s undergone countless hearings from rabid conservative congressmen, all testimony under oath. What lies or wrongdoings have they uncovered? Absolutely none. She’s spotlessly clean, and her political enemies just can’t accept that.

    • Brett_Bellmore

      Plenty. Starting with the fact that she knew within hours that Benghazi was a genuine terrorist attack that had nothing to do with that video. But so long as a Democrat is in the Oval office, uncovering lies under oath has no consequences, if the liar is a Democrat.

      • poggylu

        Yes, I know you hate her, and if she wore the wrong hair color, she’d be guilty as well. Benghazi has proven to be a partisan farce many times over, but some people just have to believe what they want to.

        • mwayne09

          ^^^^ STILL waiting on his $2500 check. I’m waiting for those 4 Benghazi Americans to come back.

      • james r ruston

        How about providing the public quotation that she thought the only motivation for the Benghazi attack was the video. You can’t, because it doesn’t exist. Further, what lie was uncovered under oath? Try to be specific.

    • Txvet

      How about that she new that the attack in Benghazi was a planned terrorist attack and NOT because of some stupid video. The military had assets to deploy to get the ambassador and his team out and she and her department would not authorize it. More than 1,000 emails containing classified data on a private email server NOT secured by the government. Saying that all victims of sexual assault deserve to be heard (unless the perp was her husband then you are a lying ho that deserves to be squashed). Shall I go on?

    • mwayne09

      ^^^^ and if you like your doctor, you can keep him .period. no one is going to take that away from you.

    • Rhetorical Brutality

      “Spotlessly clean?” Meanwhile, Vince Foster and and Chris Stevens are unavailable to comment on all that nonsense because they’re still dead, and that is on Madame Pathological Liar.

    • mlebauer

      Clown car is a good look for you.

  • fdrouillard

    This clown supported Obama the first time around. Despite his breeding, he has no credibility with me.

    • gbuls

      If a former Obama supporter is considering voting for Trump, buy them a beer and egg them on.

  • ranklez

    I would vote for a sock full of popcorn before I’d vote for Hillary.

    -ranklez

    • Evelyn

      I AM NOMINATING MY DOG, BUDDY, FOR PRESIDENT. HE HAS LOTS OF FINE QUALITIES THAT HILLARY DOES NOT POSSESS. HE DEFINITELY DOES NOT HAVE THAT CACKLING LAUGH THAT MAKES MY SKIN CRAWL. HIS FASHION SENSE IS IMPECCABLE, HE WEARS COLOR COORDINATED LEASHES AND COLLARS, MUCH NICER THAN THOSE HORRID PANTSUITS WHICH I PERSONALLY DETEST. . I DO KNOW THAT HE HAS HAD HIS SHOTS. HE HAS NEVER ATTEMPTED TO BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS HIM. HE IS LOVABLE, BUT PROTECTIVE. HE IS LOYAL AND TRUSTWORTHY. HE IS DEDICATED TO HIS FAMILY AND TO HIS LOVED ONES. HE CAN KEEP A SECRET, THE ONLY SERVER HE KNOWS IS THE ONE WHO PUTS FOOD ON HIS PLATE. OK , NOW I AM CONVINCED,—–BUDDY FOR PRESIDENT.

      • The Laughing Cavalier

        Bill once had a Labrador named Buddy. Hilary had his nuts chopped off.

        • Evelyn

          Bill, Buddy, or BOTH

          • The Laughing Cavalier

            Just the dog. poor old chap, but the wish was obvious.

  • HenryC

    If you have to chose from and arrogant braggart and bully or a liar, I have to go with the arrogant one. Not much of a choice though.

  • Evelyn

    OK, This HEADLINE made me LAUGH OUT LOUD, LOL, ALL CAPS, REALLY LOUD, OBNOXIOUS, ALMOST HILLARY ARIOUS LAUGH. I WOULD VOTE FOR MY DOG BEFORE I WOULD VOTE FOR HILLARY. MY DOG BUDDY IS LOYAL, TRUSTWORTHY, DEDICATED, DEVOTED, PROTECTIVE, OK YOU GET MY DRIFT. IF HILLARY IS THE ONLY PANTS STANDING, I VOTE FOR MY DOG, BUDDY.

  • Txvet

    Basically a vote for Hillary or Sanders means you are down for 4-8 more years of Obama or Obama on steroids. Remember all that, “if you like your doctor, your premiums will go down” stuff? Yeah, the truth was in that pile of excrement of a bill that Pelosi said had to be passed before we could find out what was in it. So, we have a health insurance system that is now in shambles. People were having trouble paying premiums and going to the doctor before but now their rates have skyrocketed or they are paying some “tax” for not having insurance and can’t afford to pay cash.

    Me, I am a Cruz supported. He is a principled, constitutionalist that is not afraid to stand up for what he believes in. If Trump is the guy though I will vote for him because this country can’t take four more of the last eight.

    • mwayne09

      ” If Trump is the guy though I will vote for him because this country can’t take four more of the last eight.”
      I’m with you brother- you’re a true Patriot

    • FedupwithStupid

      I pray he is not that guy. I would never vote for Hillary, but a vote for Trump is rolling the dice. His supporters who understand his “Art of the Deal” strategy will flat out tell you he says what he says to elicit a response from his supporters and detractors alike, all designed to keep him in the spotlight and ultimately win the nomination. I have no idea what he would do in office, and that troubles me greatly given his past support of liberals and liberal policies. I am most concerned about what his SCOTUS picks would look like. I KNOW what hers would look like, so if it comes down to Trump or Hillary, I will most likely hold my nose and vote Trump. But I won’t like it.

    • Ignatius

      Go study history of Cruz the opportunist, and you will lies and hypocrisies. He is also funded by Jewish wealthy elite means he could be just a puppet of NWO.

      • Txvet

        You mean like Hillary or Bernie? Bernie hasn’t worked in anything but politics since the 70’s. And Hillary has either been a Senator or First Lady (state and federal) since then too.

  • Paul Schlacter

    Actually compared to anybody, Hillary Clinton is, indeed, “that bad.”

  • mwayne09

    Clinton LOST $6 BILLION as SoS
    Trump built/owns/runs a $10 BILLION company
    that makes hillary -$16 billion in street smarts.

  • ReasonedVoice

    “When the latest version of Hillary was rolled out like a new product by her campaign apparatus, she was rebranded as a doting granny.”

    Well, if that’s want she wants to be known as (and according to some of her relatively recent ads, it is), why doesn’t she just “stay home and bake cookies”?

  • Michael J. Czuchnicki

    Mr. Trump brings up real problems but causes others with policies that seem spur of the moment. We need a President who will unite the States again, so that 2 + 2 > 4. We need real expertise, experience, and the truth. Most of all to have character, not to be one. Governor Christie will not lead from behind, nor say “what does it matter?” He was a Federal Prosecutor against terrorism, then a two-term Governor in a blue state. He is serious and centrist’ believes in the Constitution; and does not stoke fear — but Mr. Trump brings eyeballs, and the media love chaos. Mr. Trump is the political equivalent of “if it bleeds, it leads.”

    • George Craig

      Actually, we need leaders who tell us the truth. 2+2=4. Telling the masses that we can make 2+2=5 if we just try hard enough has been the standard operating procedure of career politicians like Christie, Bush, etc. for too long.

      You’re talking about the same Bridgegate Christie who told the people of Colorado they had better “enjoy it while it lasts” because in a Christie presidency he was going to double down on the drug war and send them all to Federal prison or mandatory drug treatment, right? The whole Federal Drug War is unconstitutional, divisive, stokes fear, and shows that he’s on the wrong side of history, by about 10 years. Why send millions more people to prison over what should be a states’ issue, and none of the Federal government’s business? If Colorado wants to make pot legal within its borders, it’s a states’ right issue and none of the Fed’s business. And he wants to violate the right to privacy of every American in order to expand an illegal surveillance program that has managed to spend an estimated $25 billion dollars and hundreds of thousands of man-hours per year, all of which could be used in REAL spy work, to net ONE arrest of somebody who was very likely just a loudmouth, not a terrorist.

      • Michael J. Czuchnicki

        You write seriously, but have missed some things. Synergy is real and so is the power of optimism. America needs to believe again — and act accordingly. My take on drugs is that the war on them is a failure; that said, laws should be changed, not ignored — which is what the Gov said. His video about addicts is telling. Lastly, the NSA program is a cost but we are at war and need intelligence weapons. It seems that the waterboarding, black lives matter, etc. all assume police, CIA, NSA, etc. are the bad guys. Demoralization does make for good work. Gov Christie’s supports officers of the law. Consider him. I am doing so.

  • art523

    Surely you will write a similar column about Trump too, won’t you Mr Buckley? He who has amassed a longer list of (far biigger) lies and flip flops than Clinton in the space of a few months, with none of the accomplishments that Clinton has garnered over the years? And he is a bigot, racist and a fearmonger to boot!

    Oh, what a difficult choice we might have come next November: to choose between:
    a) a bigot/bully/demagogue who made a few real estate deals and now wants the entire country to cower in fear of Muslims and illegal immigrants, and

    b) the previous Secretary of State and former Senator from New York with a long record of public service and accomplishments.

    Whatever shall we do?!

    • CPT

      What exactly are Hillary’s accomplishments? As senator, her most famous vote was for the Iraq War. As Secretary of State, her most consequential decision was to lead the charge for the Libya intervention that replaced a secular regime with a civil war between two Islamist factions, which she continues to claim was “smart power.”

      • Shary

        she married Bill. Otherwise she would still born be a nobody
        Now, she’s a lieing nobody

    • Michael J. Czuchnicki

      It seems that Ms. Clinton’s list of accomplishments is debated. Ms. Fiorina said something like, “Secretary of State is a title, not an accomplishment,” adding, “traveling an million miles is not an accomplishment.” Am trying to understand the candidates, their positions, and their records is important. Ms. Clinton is now proposing an additional $Trillion in spending. Where does that money come from?.

    • tbraton

      When you allude to Clinton’s “accomplishments. . .garnered over the years,” I am sure you are referring to her vote as Senator in support of the war against Iraq and her actions as Secretary of State in pushing President Obama to launch a war against Libya. Those both turned out really well, didn’t they? The poor clueless woman wants to take credit for her “bold” positions, but, when they invariably lead to disaster, she sure wants to distance herself from them.

  • nathan5

    Sorry my friend,you wasted a lot of ink. Go Trump.

  • Bob Acker

    No, Trump is the worst, even including this one.

    • gbuls

      troll

  • james r ruston

    The charge that a rich person can not be sympathetic to middle class and poor people is belied by historical examples, among them FDR and Robert Kennedy.

  • Shary

    She’s horrid

    • jkendi

      brings to mind, “…and when she was good, she was very, very good,
      But when she was bad she was horrid.” Longfellow. Problem is, I can’t thing of any times that she has been good.

  • CPT

    Hillary’s a lunatic warmonger who has never seen an invasion or airstrike that she didn’t approve of. Trump says offensive things about Muslims – Hillary supports the policies that have killed hundreds of thousands of Muslims. I’ll take the rude candidate over the murderous one.

  • Optimus_Maximus

    She is a congenital liar, a self-aggrandizing, no accomplishment traitor and a thief She should be in jail, not running for office.

    • gbuls

      He will run the kinds of ads we’ve always wished republicans would run.

  • jkendi

    yes. she is.

  • lf

    When you and your husband have banked $125 million in speaking fees from the odious malefactors of wealth, and you insist that you feel the pain of the middle class. How do you maintain the deadpan after you’ve cashed $300,000 for a half-hour speech at a state university — which fee comes from student dues — and then declaim against crippling student loans?

    ALL OF A SUDDEN RIGHT WINGERS HATE FREE ENTERPRISE.

    • Democrat EBTbaggers

      That is pointing out hypocrisy, not hate of free enterprise. Learn how to read.

    • mlebauer

      Those are crony capitalists bribing a government official for favors. Yes, Conservatives oppose such illegal and unethical behavior. What about you?

  • lf

    SEE WHERE YOU LOGIC WRITING FOR BUSH GOT US???

    • Democrat EBTbaggers

      Where?

      • lf

        the iraq war, 4000 dead, 100,000 maimed
        greatest recession since the Depression.

        • Democrat EBTbaggers

          Except he wrote for GHWB, not W. Learn to read.

          • gbuls

            distinction without a difference

  • Who in their right mind would vote for Clinton with her proven track record of lies, deceit, incompetence and corruption ?? Besides her dismal record she also has had ZERO positive accomplishments in all her years in public office…and even now she is being investigated by the FBI. We don’t need any more deceit and incompetence in the white house period.

  • Hadrian

    Hillary is unsinkable. Is that what you are saying? If it comes to Trump or her, the drums of WWIII are beating. Oppression and blood will be the rewards of the seeds the Baby Boomers have sown.

    • CPT

      Other than Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul, Trump’s actually the least war-happy candidate in the race. The real disaster would be a choice between Hillary and Rubio.

    • Youcanonlybeamused

      We’ve divided ourselves by politics, race and ethnicity. We’ve divided ourselves by class and where we live.

      Hey- here’s a brilliant idea: let’s divide ourselves by age too.

  • Dan

    The next time she tells the truth will be the first time.

    My personal favorite lie was her claim that she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary, the first person to climb Mt Everest. The only problem is that Hillary was born seven years before Sir Edmund climbed Mt Everest. Maybe her parents didn’t name her until she was 7. hahaha

    • NRGuest

      Sorry to be pedantic, but I think you meant “before Sir Edmund climbed Mt. Everest”, not after.

      • Dan

        I caught that and changed it.

      • And don’t forget the famous ‘hail of bullets on the tarmac in Bosnia’. But we now know the all-timer was, “It was a video”

  • Dazzeetrader1980

    HIllary got us in this shitstorm in the middle east with Egypt, Libya and so on. I could never vote for an incompetent woman like she is. Emails, selling off our uranium to russia and a whole host of things precludes any votes for this dishonest woman. I’ll take trump any day over a lying, manipulate socialist. She’s still nothing but the wife of an ex pres otherwise nobody would notice her.

  • Democrat EBTbaggers

    With the Middle East in chaos, and ISIS on the rise (partly due to the Obama-Clinton doctrine), it’s important to remember that Hillary couldn’t even provide security for 4 Americans.

    • Evelyn

      the 3 am call came, it was Benghazi………..

  • Nate’sFanMom

    Pathetic article.

    • joethevoter

      yes, little c. buckley was a real obama sniffer in the past , hasn’t really changed , can never find that perfect republican candidate to support , therefore…..

  • NRGuest

    In a lot of ways Trump and Hillary are similar. They both are entangled in wealth and power, they both are untrustworthy, and they both share the same goal in life, advancing themselves at the expense of others. They’ve also stated on many occasions that they are good friends. Trump even consulted with Bill Clinton before his campaign announcement.

    A lot of people are freaking out about the things Trump says, but I don’t think he believes most of them. I think he’s just saying what he thinks will get attention and support, just like Hillary’s flip-flopping. If elected, they would likely continue this pattern, and show complete disregard for the constitution, separation of powers, and existing law.

    So if this race comes down to a Trump vs Hillary race, we can all rest easy knowing none of our votes will truly matter. Either way we’ll get a self-absorbed autocrat, who doesn’t care about violating our constitutional rights.

  • No Left Turns

    Hillary has 1,000+ classified eMails on her kitchen eMail server

    you or I would already be in a SuperMax

    Let’s see what Obama does and if he arrests her
    and Joe Biden takes her place….

    • KY Headhunter

      Absolutely ANYONE else would have already been arrested, tried and jailed. I hope it pisses off others like it does me.

  • wheezer

    Its a grand scheme cooked up by trump and billy: Run as a repub and and split off the angry conservative vote. Then, dont get the nomination and run as a 3rd party candidate splitting the GOP vote in the general so Hillary is assured victory.

    Sound far fetched? Hmmm, not really.

    • No Left Turns

      Oh no – another UFO story…

      • NRGuest

        Well, Trump did consult with the Clinton’s before he announced his campaign. He’s also been on record saying he’s good friends with Bill and Hillary, and he used to hold a lot of progressive positions.

        So while it’s not probable, it’s certainly not impossible.

      • mlebauer

        Read the following before declaring it a UFO story:
        http://www.forbes.com/sites/randalllane/2015/09/29/inside-the-epic-fantasy-thats-driven-donald-trump-for-33-years/

        Trump, like Russ Hanneman on HBO’s “Silicon Valley”, is obsessed with his net worth.

        Hillary’s obsession is becoming the first double-X president.

        A grand deal in the making. Trump swings the election for Hillary, a la Perot 1992, Pres Hillary helps Trump add another zero. Art of the Deal?

    • PapayaSF

      I don’t buy it. Trump has a big ego and lots of businesses. He’s not going to take a dive for Hillary and tick off tens of millions of his supporters and customers.

      • mlebauer

        The case:
        http://www.forbes.com/sites/ra

        Trump, like Russ Hanneman on HBO’s “Silicon Valley”, is obsessed with his net worth.

        Hillary’s obsession is becoming the first double-X president.

        A grand deal in the making. Trump swings the election for Hillary, a la Perot 1992, Pres Hillary helps Trump add another zero. Art of the Deal?

        • PapayaSF

          Billionaires who sell things to the public don’t get richer by betraying tens of millions of followers and intentionally losing the highest-profile election in the world. I think it’s far more likely that he just wants to be President.

          As for Trump’s chat with Bill, what makes everyone assume that Bill wants Hillary to win? Being first spouse would cramp Bill’s ability to get nookie. Better for him if she loses.

          • mlebauer

            Hillary could do all sorts of favors to assist the Trump organization, why do you think all those banks, governments, and companies donate to her “charitable” foundation and give $250K for a terrible 30 minute speech?

            That said, the grand bargain MAY have gone of the rails with Trump’s surprise success. He may just think he could win this thing, and bestow the favors himself on the Trump Org.

            You’re the only person I’ve ever seen suggest Bill doesn’t want Hill to win. If that were the case, there would be hundreds of ways for him to torpedo her, starting with divorce court. They haven’t slept together anyway since 9 months before Chelsea was born, and even that’s questionable.

          • PapayaSF
          • mlebauer

            Hope you’re right. Or that the FBI does it first.

          • PapayaSF

            Her health is also extremely questionable. She might not make it to the election, much less serve out a full term.

          • gbuls

            Screech is already complaining about the tiring pace of the campaign – she talks to a few dozen old people every day, bused in from all around. She made this complaint just as Trump is ramping up his efforts to anchor her to a lack of ‘strength’ and ‘stamina’. Not a smart woman. By the end, she will be wearing a dozen such anchors.65/35 Trump.

          • PapayaSF

            I don’t know about the 65/35, but I do think that many are vastly underestimating Trump’s appeal. The vitriol from the media and party establishments just makes his supporters like him more, because they hate the media and the party establishments. And I think he gets (and will get) a lot of support from people who won’t admit it in public, even to pollsters.

    • nathan5

      Is the world flat, Hmmm

    • mlebauer

      Read the following for support:
      http://www.forbes.com/sites/ra

      Trump, like Russ Hanneman on HBO’s “Silicon Valley”, is obsessed with his net worth.

      Hillary’s obsession is becoming the first double-X president.

      A grand deal in the making. Trump swings the election for Hillary, a la Perot 1992, Pres Hillary helps Trump add another zero. Art of the Deal?

  • bang00mo

    Yeah, she’s not that bad as long as you’re ok with a liar and a murderer.

    • orygone

      she murdered no one. she can lie, but not in the league of trump

      • retired military

        Talk to the folks who had reliatives in Benghazi.

        • orygone

          How about the 9/11 families, the over 50 killed in embassies under GW. 8 Benghazi investigations have said no, not her fault. It’s al Qaeda

      • wheezer

        its a fact the state dept knew and delivered nothing.

        • orygone

          Nope

        • orygone

          Not fact, crazy opinion

      • bang00mo

        She is complicit in abandoning 4 dead Americans in Benghazi and Vince Foster wound up in that park all by himself.

        You’re right – Trump isn’t even close to being in her league.

        • orygone

          So then the over 50 deaths under rice and Powell are their faults as well.

      • IAEH

        Vince Forster.

        • orygone

          It’s foster and zero evidence Hillary or anyone killed him. Reagan was gay

  • The_Repentant_Curmudgeon

    C.S. Lewis once wrote that the Devil sends evil to us in pairs. “You know why he does that, don’t you?” Lewis asked. “He wants you to pick the lesser of the two.”

    • retired military

      You mean like BIll and Hillary? Obama and Michelle?

      • The_Repentant_Curmudgeon

        No. I mean when you have to “choose the lesser of the two evils.” You had no choice with Hillary and Michelle.

    • cookiebob

      Then we have no choice. If we don’t vote for Trump, the biggest evil will win. And that is our fault for not choosing the lessor.
      Give me the lessor every time over the greater of the two evils.
      There really isn’t a choice.

      • The_Repentant_Curmudgeon

        If the election were between Obama as the Democrat and Hillary as the Republican, for whom would you vote? I’ve just changed the names, but I haven’t changed the situation.

  • The last person on the top ten list of candidates for the Repubulican ticket that I would vote for is Trump …. However, no way would I vote for Hillary! She lies, and does not respect the laws of the land, she does not care how many Americans died. She said that she left the White House almost broke, now she is one of the wealthiest women in the USA all while serving as Sec. Of State. It is time we have a honest person in the White House.

    • jhs

      She said there were no classified emails, and near 1000 turned up, and she influenced peddled for her foundation. she is corrupt.

      • odys

        It is very possible she is incompetent, but more likely corrupt and incompetent.

  • C’mon. She’s the devil incarnate. Saying that Donald Trump is a Democrat in Republican clothes.

    • reddog

      What makes Trump unique is that he is one of the few actual Democrats left in the Democrat Party. Really makes you realize how far to the left the rest have gone.

  • retired military

    I would take Donald duck over Billary Liar and OneBigAssMistakeAmerica combined. Combined to them Trump is a piker in the loser department.

  • Jwe

    Said no one ever!

  • mlebauer

    The case for a grand bargain: Trump as stalking horse for a Hillary victory.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/ra

    Trump, like Russ Hanneman on HBO’s “Silicon Valley”, is obsessed with his net worth.

    Hillary’s obsession is becoming the first double-X president.

    A grand deal in the making. Trump swings the election for Hillary, a la Perot 1992, Pres Hillary helps Trump add another zero. Art of the Deal?

    • Browns Fan42

      Sadly, it’s difficult to rule that out. Carly, 2016!

    • JustData

      Riiiight.
      With Trump’s massive ego, he’d for sure want to spend a lot of his time working for her as a lackey.
      With Trump’s massive ego, he for sure wants to go down in American history as the first man to lose the Presidential race to a woman (particularly to a woman viewed by a majority of Americans as a liar and dishonest).
      With Trump’s massive ego and desire to be in control, he’d for sure want to be known for the rest of his life as a loser, by losing a race to a very flawed candidate with the personality of a pet rock.
      Riiiiight, Trump’s really truly no-foolin’ just determined to become the biggest loser since Mondale by throwing the race to the likes of Hillary Clinton.
      Sheesh.

      • mlebauer

        That’s not working for her, that’s taking the spoils. By his own admission, he’s long bribed politicians in service to his business.

        But I’m on the fence. I think that was the original plan, but now he thinks he can win this thing and bestow favors himself on the Trump Org.

      • esqualido

        After the job that Marlee Matlin did on him on the Comedy Central roast, it is almost frightening to contemplate what he will look like at the hands of a fully-enabled female.

  • burghseyeview

    Former speechwriter for George HW Bush….says all you need to know about these ruling class elites.

  • Islamaphooey

    Trump, as bad as he is, is the lesser of two evils.

    • StaceyPokorney

      I’m afraid that I agree with you. And like good old Belle Watling from “Gone With The Wind,” don’t think it pleasures me none to say it.

  • We hear Hillary Rodman Clinton is dragging Bill out of his crypt to add some charisma to her campaign. The sad fact of the matter is Slick Willie, for all his faults, is just like a big old tail-waggin, slobberin ole’ hound dog. And what clueless, red-blooded American doesn’t like a big old dog, even though he embarrasses his owners by trying to hump their guests at cocktail parties?

    Hillary, on the other hand, has the warmth and charm of a monitor lizard.

    Her campaign has all the excitement and the glamour of a Grace Slick 60’s come-back tour. “ One pill makes me larger, and one pill makes me small, so go ask Huma ……about what I don’t recall. “

    • wheezer

      Its mind boggling why the democratic party has no one else except a 76 year old socialist.

      • StaceyPokorney

        Not really, when Hillary has spent the last several years burning down the house.

        • JustData

          If Hillary was doing the burning, then Obama was lining up the gas tankers to ‘help’ keep the flames going strong.

          • odys

            Well, Hillary’s only accomplishment is the Republican revolution of 1994 that cost the democrats the House after 40 years. Obama was so jealous he swore he would destroy the Democrat party to best her. he is doing a pretty good job.

    • StaceyPokorney

      Ozymandias, indeed.

    • IAEH

      Oh dear!
      Ouch!

  • Larry

    Actually … yes she can be and is that bad … even worse than Trump.

  • Shep

    The limp wristed Chris Buckley that endorsed and voted for Obama.

    He and Peggy Noonan spend every Friday night crying into their Wine Spritzers.

  • childrensnews network8

    Trump may disclose some of the everyday corruption in DC, Hillary will show them all how to steal even more

    • StaceyPokorney

      Is that a warning or an endorsement? And of which candidate?

      • childrensnews network8

        Any endorsement I give would not amount to a handful of beans

  • cookiebob

    Hillary is 100% corrupt. There is no contest. Trump is awful, agreed, but the alternative is too awful to even spend time considering!!!!

    I went through this, about the time of the Democrat debate. And let me tell you, that debate made Trump look saintly. Like the guy who could save this nation from the Stalinists in the Democrat Party, which is all of them now. From that time on, I knew that I could vote for Trump if I had to. I don’t want to. But there is just no choice. I can’t stay home, I can’t do anything other than fight the Democrat corruption with the only thing I have and that is my vote.

    Trump is at very least a Capitalist who really cares about America. If he goes back on 80% of what he has promised, that still makes him 100% better than Hillary. That should be enough for any Republican to see that Hillary is just not acceptable. Not even close.

  • Promised Land

    God help us if either of these people gets elected.

    • cookiebob

      If it is Trump, He will.
      But if we end up with Hillary, we can forget any help from Heaven. At that point we should expect fire and brimstone.
      If we are truly that evil, we will deserve it.

    • kenpuck

      Marvelous. Love these “on-the-one-hand-but-on-the-other” pieces. You have the cold, clear look of a seeker of wisdom and truth. Actually, could have saved yourself the trouble and gone over to the Drones Club for a snifter or two instead. Your readership — such as it is — would not have minded one iota.

  • Deserttrek

    the idea that trump is worse than hillary is as stupid as the idea that obama was competent

    • odys

      Someone thought Obama was competent? Boy, I bet they are embarrassed.

      • ccpony

        Write the editors of The Spectator. Go ahead and ask them….

      • Cyril Sneer

        Liberals.

    • Peter Verkooijen

      Trump is Hillary’s troll.

  • stella blue

    If you like vicious, lying, cold blooded neocons, then yes Hillary isn’t so bad. I just hope she doesn’t get indicted.

  • reddog

    Trump works for a living and spends his own money. Clinton lie’s and steals for a living and spends other peoples money. The only thing they have in common is an ego, one based on reality and the other based on ambition. And Trump hasn’t gotten anyone killed that I know of. Can’t say the same about the Witch.

  • odys

    yes, she can. Trump to Hillary is like comparing peanut butter sandwiches to paste for a lunch choice.

    • ccpony

      Um…. huh?

  • disqustang

    There is something Faustian about Hillary’s entire career in politics. She’s running, a la Lurleen Wallace, to serve husband Bill’s third and fourth term, as if he had anything to do with the internet boom (later bust!), that kept investors from wanting him impeached for debauching and degrading a starry-eyed young intern. The only reason Bill ran in 1992 was that GHW Bush looked invincible after the first Gulf War and no varsity Democrat pol was interested in taking him on.

    So, in 2000, like RFK in 1966, the New York US Senate seat was available to any liberal, well-known carpet-bagger to compete. But her worthy opponent, Rudy Giuliani, gets cancer and drops out.

    Lucifer definitely is watching her back.

    • odys

      Bill Clinton was guilty of perjury – lying under oath. Don’t give his followers the cover of trying to say it was a differing opinion on sexual behavior.

    • rich poorman

      “The only reason Bill ran in 1992 was that GHW Bush looked invincible after the first Gulf War and no varsity Democrat pol was interested in taking him on.

      And only won because Perot split the vote against him.

      • disqustang

        Dang, that was supposed to be on my list. Again, it’s like incredible luck for the Clintons.

  • George Craig

    Unlike the RNC, which left its Crown Prince Jeb! open to attack by wolves like Trump and Cruz, the DNC has coddled Princess Clinton, making sure nobody but an avowed Socialist and a couple of lightweight goofs would run against her, limiting the number of debates to 4, and scheduling them to coincide with football and other popular events, thereby minimizing the number of people who might see that she has her script memorized, and the softball questions have all been pre-vetted and studied for weeks, with the answers committed to memory.

    The Princess will have a rude awakening if she has to debate a hungry wolf like Trump or Cruz repeatedly in a neutral or unfriendly arena without a few weeks to send all the questions to her staff and a half-dozen focus groups, then memorize some placating answers. I can imagine the DNC insisting on just one presidential debate, done by MSNBC, with moderator Rachel Maddow, at 3 AM the morning of the election.

    Hillary has been with us a lot longer than 1992. Remember that she was fired by the chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee Jerry Zeifman way back in 1973, during Nixon’s presidency, because she was too dishonest. She wrote a fraudulent legal brief, illegally confiscated public documents, and “engaged in a variety of self-serving, unethical practices in violation of house rules”. That’s right, NIXON thought she was a crook LOL

    The truth is that Trump is a lot more moderate than most people think. He wants to replace Obamacare with a system in which all the insurance companies have to compete nationally, and none of them will have a monopoly in any state, not just dismantle it. He has also repeatedly said that the poor need affordable health insurance. He said he personally doesn’t agree with gay marriage, but he went to a gay friend’s wedding; he’s not going to make repealing the law a priority. And he said he doesn’t agree with abortion, but he does think that women’s health is very important. He strongly disagreed with Bush, who had said a half billion was too much to spend on women’s health. I don’t think he would be a crazed zealot like Rubio or Huckabee, who applauded the South American country who forced an 11 year old to carry her rapist’s baby to term, even though it could have killed her. He’s also not in bed with the military-industrial-government threesome. He said what a lot of people think: Bomb the oil fields to take away ISIS’s $10 million a day revenue stream, bomb the crap out of their strongholds, and let Russia and the rest of the middle east do the rest.

  • Eyes Open 2016

    Sort of a nonsensical comparison to anyone with common sense.

    One (Trump) built an entire empire and provided tons of jobs with his leadership skills, wrote “The Art of the Deal,” and graduated from a prestigious business school.

    The other (Clinton) was “dead broke,” tried writing a book that wond up flopping, lies incessantly, is under a major FBI investigation, and couldn’t even handle a softball interview with Diane Sawyer on Benghazi.

    This doesn’t require much thought. Career politicians like the Bush/Clinton brand have killed our nation. Time for a change….Trump2016!

    • Browns Fan42

      Look. Rodney Dangerfield was popular and funny. How could any Trump supporter NOT vote for Rodney as the guy in “Back to School” or “Caddyshack”. They are almost one in the same.
      We need someone serious, someone who has legitimate business experience, and is a rock ribbed conservative. I’m wondering about Trump’s conservativism may be a ruse, or not genuine. That said, Carly, 2016!

      • ccpony

        Carly? Good luck with that.

      • David Roberson

        Carly reminds me of the secretary from Monster Inc.

    • Gregg Jensen

      As a former liberal Democrat, may I say that I think Hillary Clinton is the BIGGEST SACK OF KRAP to ever run for POTUS.

      • IAEH

        Literally!

      • Evelyn

        ANOTHER FORMER DEMOCRAT——WHAT YOU SAID!!!!! I USED TO THINK I WAS LIBERAL. IF I WAS LIBERAL, THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO BE SOCIALISTS HIJACKING THE DEMOCRAT PARTY.

    • Peter Verkooijen

      Donald Trump has not built an empire. He inherited 200 million dollars NYC real estate from his dad, that turned into several billion thanks to the real estate bubble of the last decades.

      Trump Jr. has mostly coasted on being a rich kid, just like Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian. His main business is being a media celebrity and licensing his name to actual real estate developers, to put on their crappy casinos and hotels.

      And Trump always makes sure never to put his own money in; he built his “empire” on other people’s money, letting them hold the bag if projects went bankrupt. He thinks he can do the same in government; let Mexico pay for his wall etc. American taxpayers will be left holding the bag.

    • James Flatmo

      Had trump simply invested the money his father gave him in CODs and other “boring” investments while sitting at home making a career of finger painting, he’d be worth 8 billion now instead of 2.4 billion. How is that being a brilliant businessman?

  • Independent_woman

    I would vote for Satan himself rather than Clinton…..and I might have to.

  • roastytoasty

    It sounds to me like Trump’s plan is to try and get a handle on 50 years’ worth of Democrat Political party socialism. New Deal Great Society Big Government is failing. Trump was once a Democrat. Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Hillary Clinton & Barack Obama have shown Trump the error of Democrat ways

    Unless Trump (or somebody like Trump) gets FEDGOV off our backs the 20 trillion dollar deficit spending log-jam is gonna bust the whole enchilada wide-open. Then what? The unmitigated consequence of unlimited illegal immigration & unlimited deficit spending plus the consequences of all the other hare-brained Big Government malarkey will jolt a lot of people out of their politically correct culturally diverse complacency. At this point, more big government intervention assures absolute failure.

    Without serious no-nonsense leadership there will be no way to avoid the dead-ahead train-wreck. At the very least, Trump is being honest about the laughable stupidity, incompetence & corruption now passing for “government” in the United States.

    • Peter Verkooijen

      Trump is not running against Big Government. Trump believes Democratic economic policy – keynesian spending, stimulus, etc. – is best for the economy. He favors single payer healthcare and thinks government should have the power to take property from little people and give it to people like him if it “creates jobs”.

  • Brian

    Compared to Hildabeast I’d vote for Charles Manson.

    • ADELANTE CON CLINTONS

      What a truly idiotic comment.

      Hall of fame level of stupid.

      Self defining, soulless moronic perfection.

      Attaboy, Jethro.

      • Brian

        You go ahead and vote for that pathological lying scag. It’s typical stupidity from liberals. Do what your masters say , no questions

        • ADELANTE CON CLINTONS

          Misogynistic RWNJ=Sexually deprived, lonely perverts .

          EVERY TIME.

        • ADELANTE CON CLINTONS

          Misogynistic RWNJ=Sexually deprived, lonely perverts .

          EVERY TIME.

          • Brian

            That’s right be a good slave to the Democratic party. No thinking on your part required

          • ADELANTE CON CLINTONS

            I “think” youre a misogynistic nutcase.

            “Thinking” and being a RWNJ have NOTHING in common.

      • David Roberson

        Manson was an accomplished speaker with high Charisma.:) He would still be a Democrat though.

      • Its_All_Baloney

        Charles Manson to Barbara Walters: “I don’t break laws, I make laws!”

        Who does that remind you of? Hint: initials are BHO. HRC is just a pale reflection, but it still applies.

  • Higgs Boson

    Old…Wrinkled…Thoroughly Corrupt…Proven Serial Liar.

    What’s there not to like?

    • IAEH

      Woohoo!

      • ADELANTE CON CLINTONS

        SEXIST, AGEIST BIGOTRY MAKES MY DICKY MOVE !

        Woohoo!

        • David Roberson

          I bet you said that same exact thing about McCain.:)

          • ADELANTE CON CLINTONS

            you’d lose that bet .

        • Cyril Sneer

          Well you managed to find your caps lock key right at the end there.

          • ADELANTE CON CLINTONS

            SEXIST, AGEIST BIGOTRY MAKES MY DICKY MOVE ! Woohoo!

  • Callawyn

    Clinton is a nightmare, are you kidding?

    Trump’s a loose cannon, but if he does half what he promises on immigration alone it would be well worth having him as POTUS.

    • Peter Verkooijen

      A New York billionaire who picks Mobile, Alabama as the location for his first big political rally, is a troll.

      • David Roberson

        What would be the point in talking to people in New York? They already made their mind up that they love Communism.

  • Higgs Boson

    Nothing says “I hate White America!” like voting Democrat…..

    N O T H I N G !!!

  • Hector Montes

    There are proofs how evil is Hillary, show me your proofs about how evil is Trump… well? … nothing?? … crickets? Then you are a sold out idiot.

  • Historybuff

    This is a ‘nonsense’ article… hillery clinton is unfit for public office – Period. In January, the FBI will be delivering an Indictment on hillery for criminal handling of classified information.

    That will be the end of hillery.
    HB

    • No Left Turns

      if she is elected she will be impeached for the same reason…

      • ADELANTE CON CLINTONS

        If?

        ROFLMFAO!

        IMPEACH HILLARY NOW!

        🙂

      • IAEH

        She shouldn’t even get that far!
        She is an emberrasment to this country. The hold hag should get out, before it gets worse.

        • ADELANTE CON CLINTONS

          hag?

          ROFLMFAO!

          Dont you worry Jethro.

          Trey Gowdy will surely stop her.

          Giggles…

    • ADELANTE CON CLINTONS

      Dont worry nutter, Trey Gowdy will surely stop her!

    • IAEH

      Hillary for Jail 2016!

      • ADELANTE CON CLINTONS

        how original !

    • Eric M Krehemker

      If that happens, January or not, I will remember you said ti first. I hope you are right, but I doubt it.

      • Historybuff

        I hope so too. Either the indictment will be handed down… or the obama Dept. of Justice will refuse to prosecute which is tantamount to a presidential pardon.

        If that happens, then hillery will become a historical symbol for ‘wealthy elites that are above American laws” – a kiss of political death in America.
        HB

        • Its_All_Baloney

          Again, gotta disagree. Dems will vote for Hillary no matter what anyone else says. Dem women will vote for Hillary if they have to brave the Apocalypse to get to the polling station. And deceased centrists and illegals with driver’s licenses will put her over the top.

          The only way Hillary goes down is if the GOP can produce a truly compelling candidate. In other words, not Donald Trump.

          • Historybuff

            I agree about the dems – They KNOW that they are in deep trouble. As for the rest of America… I think it quite possible that when the case comes out against hillery, many will be swayed in their thinking. It won’t be pretty.
            HB

    • ChuSez

      Dream on…

      • Historybuff

        You too.
        HB

    • XSANDIEGOCA

      In our dreams….

      • Historybuff

        I don’t see how it can go any other way. She is clearly guilty of violating American laws on protection of National Secrets. Either she gets indicted… or she becomes a poster child for “one set of laws for normal Americans, and another set of laws for wealthy, elite, liberal democrat politicians”.
        HB

        • Its_All_Baloney

          I remain surprised that you’re surprised.

          When was the last time a Clinton was held accountable?

        • XSANDIEGOCA

          The scales were ripped from the young man’s eyes when one Senator Ted Kennedy, guilty of felony drunk driving and manslaughter, skated! It was then I realized there was indeed one set of laws for the rulers and one for the ruled. I have seen it time and again. Recently, a local Deputy DA, convicted of a prior DUI, committed a second DUI, ran into the wall of a cemetery and left the scene of the accident. You or I would have been sporting a set of jail blues. Not this gal. Home detention! Should Hillary be indicted, arrested, convicted and incarcerated? You bet! I was in IT for years. If I had pulled that stunt, the FBI would have been at the door. That said, I hope you are right but I have the sickening feeling she is destined the for the WH. A very sad denouement for our country. Given time, we might survive Obama. We shall not survive Hillary. BTW, Merry Xmas. Enjoy your commentary.

          • Historybuff

            Thanks, XSANDIEGOCA. “If’ hillery does in fact get special treatment… this old Baptist might just go out and have a drink… as I did in my Marine Corp days. Been a long time. But I think such an event would be so massively visible across the country… that it more likely would commence the collapse of the players involved. Of course, obama is a lame duck anyway with no real sense of shame.

            But that would still leave ‘others’ that would become tainted…

            Merry Christmas to you, too!
            HB

          • XSANDIEGOCA

            We have 402 days left of Obama. Be Vigilant!

          • Historybuff

            Yes, counting down.
            HB

          • Funkenstein✓FuNk-ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            hahahhahhah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • XSANDIEGOCA

            Happy Kwanza! hahahhahahhahahha!!!!!!!!!

  • ccpony

    It’s quite possible that the 2016 general election might match two of the least palatable candidates in not-so-recent memory. Then, of course, it comes down to the “lesser-of-two evils”. And obviously then Hillary would lose.

    • ChuSez

      That’s not so obvious to me, and I’m a Republican.

    • David Roberson

      I voted 3rd party in 2012 and will likely do so again in 2016. I’d consider Trump and Hilary better candidates than Obama ever was in 2008. Just his name made his election a surprise after the 9/11 bombings. There are a couple Republicans I would consider but the entire field is pretty much the same to me at this point whether I look left or right.

  • No Left Turns

    The FBI now has 1,000 classified eMails that were found on Hillary’s kitchen eMail server
    that problem is not going away any time in the next decade
    you or I would already be in a SuperMax for 20 years

    My guess is that Obama will arrest her just before the Dems Convention
    and Joe Biden will step in and every Democrat will shout for joy

    if she should become President the Republican House will Impeach her
    just like they did with Bill
    and a strong Republican Senate will convict her and send her to a SuperMax
    and America will shout for joy

    Liberals are sticking their heads in the garbage if they think the eMails aren’t a HUGE problem…

    • ADELANTE CON CLINTONS

      Dont you worry Jethro.

      Trey Gowdy will surely stop her.

      • JERRE

        She might wind up w a brilliant legacy. The first US President to leave the oval office in cuffs.

        • ADELANTE CON CLINTONS

          As a prosecutor, y’know he never lost a case.

          Dont you worry Jethro. Trey Gowdy will surely stop her.

    • ccpony

      Um… and what makes you think that Joe Biden can just “step in”?

    • emceemc

      Just one point to make on your nonsense. If Clinton wins, there will not be a “strong” Republican senate. There may not be a Republican senate at all.

    • Eric M Krehemker

      I doubt that, I am guessing a lot of the states have filing deadlines before then. Obama is not going to arrest Hillary anyway.

    • ChuSez

      If Clinton becomes President it will probably mean that she ran against Trump, in which case there will also be a Democratic Senate majority.
      Trump is a looming Republican disaster.

      • life5678

        anyone other than Trump is a disaster, so might as well go with the guy with the steel balls.

        • ChuSez

          Trumpolini? The guy who was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple?

    • Don Keller

      Anyone who thinks Shrillary will go down because of the email scandal is fooling themselves…the fix has been in for a while.

      • life5678

        I have absolutely no doubt that James Comey will present the DOJ with an air-tight case that would put anyone else into a super-max for 20 years. But I have little faith in the AG doing what is right.

        • Its_All_Baloney

          I have all the faith in the world that our esteemed AG will do whatever is politically expedient and in her view furthers the cause of Social Justice.

          What the law says or requires is, however, irrelevant.

        • Don Keller

          I hope you are correct…

    • Avedon

      Well, the problem with that analysis is that Biden is even worse than Hillary on some very important issues. He is, after all, the guy who fought over and over to try to get that outrageous credit card bill passed until he finally did it. Of course, Hillary ended up supporting him, so no points for her.

    • TeeJay 2

      Obama and Lynch wouldn’t arrest her if she killed her grandmother in broad daylight with 100 witnesses. Stop dreaming and vote for the Republican. There’s not a single Republican in the up-coming debate who will cave in to the Muslim Brotherhood, but Hillary will.

  • tz

    So much ignorance on display on this commentary thread.

    • StaceyPokorney

      I’m afraid I have to agree, and unfortunately much of it is irrelevant with regard to the article at hand.

    • Cyril Sneer

      I guess it was too difficult for you to elaborate.

  • Steve

    How did the Democrats end up with an old white lady and an old white guy as their candidates? Bernie is a socialist but at least he is honest about it. Hillary deserves to be in jail.

    • emceemc

      Trump an Carson are as old as anybody, and Rubio thinks older than all of them.

      • Its_All_Baloney

        Once you outgrow your teenage fantasies, age and wisdom are considered to be assets.

        • vortex100

          What does that have to do with anything?

    • Eric M Krehemker

      I agree with you about Bernie, but his socialist tendencies are a no go for me.

      • Avedon

        In what way?

  • sdl701

    I’m glad Chris Buckley has regained at least some of his analytical ability. He, and Peggy Noonan, betrayed everything they had ever stood for or believed in in 2008 when they endorsed Barack Obama.

    No, not Donald Trump, not anyone what can think of, not, as Ann Coulter famously said four years ago, not even Charlie Sheen would be as awful as Hillary Clinton.

    God help us!

    • ChuSez

      Would Charlie Sheen be worst than Trump? That’s debatable too.

      • David Roberson

        At least we know Charlie Sheen would support AIDs research. lol

  • ChangeHopeInAZ

    Sorry! I have had my fill of any Dim right down to dog-catcher who has any affiliation with today’s Democratic leadership! They cannot be trusted and you can thank your community organizer for that!

    • vortex100

      And many of us have had it with the Conservative right-wing Republicans and their do-nothing leadership in Congress. They cannot be trusted and you can thank Bush (and quite a few others) for that!

      • Avedon

        You can thank the leadership of both parties, who have enabled this oligarchical system. Most Americans disagree with them. The average Republican voter has more in common with self-described liberals than with the Republican leadership. The average Democrat has more in common with people who identify with the Tea Party than they do with the Democratic leadership. No one really likes neocons or neoliberals, but somehow we keep electing them. It’s a disaster.

  • Eric M Krehemker

    Hillary is worse, in a different way. I dont like Trump, he has too much to say, none of it meaningful, and he cannot help but denigrate anyone who disagrees. Hillary does the same thing, she just has her minions do it for her. I also think Trump is such an narcissist he actually believes what he is saying. Hillary on the other hand lies out of convenience.

    • Its_All_Baloney

      So Trump is just another Obama.

      That’s what we need: eight more years of bombast, straw men, and government by EO.

  • Common_Sense_Post

    I guess we will find out if you can get the presidency just because you are connected and it is your turn. Clinton is so vile it will be interesting to see if enough Dems can hold their nose and pull the lever. I somehow doubt it. Several of the Dem voting blocks are so selfish and puerile the will stay home rather than vote for Clinton.

  • Paul X

    Why this assumption that one or the other must be voted for? Climb out of the mire, and withhold your vote. Then, no matter who wins, you can always say, “Don’t blame me”. Why add your weight to the mandate the winner will inevitably claim? Withhold it!

    • Avedon

      No one will notice if you don’t bother to vote. At least vote for Mickey Mouse so no one can pretend you just couldn’t be bothered to vote.

  • Jonathan Palmquist

    Bernie is far more electable than either Hillary or Trump. He is loved by independents, and has a small but significant portion of Republicans crossing over the aisle to vote for him. People might not agree with him on everything, but they know he is honest and trustworthy.

    • ChuSez

      I disagree with him on everything, but I still respect and like him.
      I can’t say that about Clinton or Trump.

      • Avedon

        Really? You disagree with him about everything? You don’t support Social Security? You prefer our expensive commercialized patchwork medical system to the cheaper and more efficient Medicare-for-all system he has proposed? You think we should just run around the world starting stupid wars? You like having a privatized prison system that incarcerates more people than any other country in the world does? What kind of country do you want to live in?

    • TeeJay 2

      Like Lenin was honest and trustworthy.
      If you want to know what Sanders would like to do, check out Sweden. That country is underwater with hostile immigrants and losing its culture, history, and personal safety.
      Capitalism has its faults, but it’s still ahead of socialism and mea culpa liberalism.

    • altster76

      Ummm…. NO!!

    • David Roberson

      No, he isn’t. America isn’t ready to vote for someone who considers themselves a socialist.

      • Avedon

        America has always been socialist. Read the Preamble to the US Constitution – although the word had not been coined at the time, that Preamble is a pretty good definition of socialism. Ben Franklin created the US Post Office, even. We have *always* had federal institutions that, because they could be run most efficiently as government facilities, have been. You may be confusing socialism with communism, which is a very different thing – but Sanders is not advocating that every dry-cleaner and hot dog stand be nationalized.

      • Jonathan Palmquist

        What about the fact that Bernie has been doing better against Republicans than Hillary has in head-to-head matchups?

        Bernie does better than Hillary with Independents according to polls. And he does much better with people aged 45 and under.

      • Jonathan Palmquist

        Also, more people support Bernie than support Trump (or any other Republican candidate).

        As soon as people realize that his “Democratic Socialism” is really the same policies that FDR and Eisenhower supported, they don’t care about the “socialist” label. Guess what, America is already largely Socialist: we have Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, public schools, public roads, public utilities, public safety. All those programs are run by the government, and are in place to help society in general.

  • XSANDIEGOCA

    Hillary is the the Establishment. The Establishment has given us the following in the last two decades: Open Borders, Endless Wars, Staggering Debts, the Worse Race Relations in 50 years, grotesque income inequality, the Middle East Aflame, a government more concerned with immigrants than the native born, out of control government at all levels and on and on and on. Can Trump be worse? Probably not. Could he be better? Very possibly. This is a man grounded in the real world There is no reason to vote again for Hillary or the Corrupted Establishment she represents. I’ll take my chances on the Amateur.

    • americanlatina11

      Trump is worse because he claims to be something he isn’t.

      He is FOR single payer Healthcare.
      He looks to the federal government for everything.

      no way, no how. Trump is a Clinton plant. Nothing more.

      • XSANDIEGOCA

        I think he could win and beating Hillary is all that matters.

    • Its_All_Baloney

      “This man is grounded in the real world.”

      No, this man was born with a silver spoon up his keester, he’s a former reality tv star, and he’s worked his entire life to make his own name an iconic brand. He’s a male Paris Hilton — except he’s ugly, old, obnoxious, narcissistic, bombastic, and has really bad hair. Go ahead, tell me Ms Paris is grounded in reality and would make a great president.

      I dare ya.

      • XSANDIEGOCA

        Built a skyscraper in NYC lately? Try it. He will be infinitely more entertaining than the shrieking Harridan we will be compelled to live with for eight years. Everyday 7/24 we will be harangued, threatened and treated to one scandal after another. I will pass. If Hillary is elected the TV is removed from the house. Now, that said, I concede your point. He is obnoxious but he is our vehicle to stick a thumb in the eye of the Establishment that kraps on us at every opportunity. The last two elections, I voted the Party Line. Not this time. Regardless of my sentiments, I have the sickening feeling that a Hillary Presidency is baked in the cake. It will be the end of the Old America. The End.

      • Fritz123

        Mrs Paris has been herself in a Swiss office to become Swiss resident. This was very ordinary there.

      • Avedon

        Paris Hilton is a much better businesswoman than Trump is a businessman. Trump started off with over $9bn dollars and his clever investment strategies have parlayed that into less than $4bn.

  • XSANDIEGOCA

    If Hillary wins, I throw in the towel. I just retired. I have a new set of clubs. The course beckons…Maybe I’ll run into Bubba or Obama?

    • KevNJ

      Watch what fingers you wave with if you do.

  • TroubleBaby

    You know the American political system is broken by the choices being offered to the masses by it.

    • XSANDIEGOCA

      Before they are elected they are …. pre-selected.

      • TroubleBaby

        I believe it was Farrakhan that said that, no?

        Funny how even crazy people can speak the truth from time to time.

        • XSANDIEGOCA

          Even a broken clock is right twice a day – anon.

  • prosecutor1

    Reader beware: this clown enthusiastically endorsed Obama in 2008.

    • Avedon

      I never supported either of them, and I still don’t. If I wanted to vote for Republican policies, I’d just vote for a Republican and have done with it. I don’t want to do that. I don’t know why Democrats are being so complacent about the limit on Dem debates this cycle when it just means fewer opportunities for Dems to get their message out. Ah, but that might give her primary opponent a chance to beat her for the nomination, and they don’t want *that*.

  • JERRE

    There is no comparison between Hillary and Donald Trump. She is the consummate liar. Benghazi is her latest. Do u really think she can skirt Whitewater, Benghazi and her track record as Secretary of State? Due to her inept handling, the entire Middle East is on fire. She reset it , all right, the wrong way. You don’t like the bombastic Donald Trump? Well, u better get used to him. He simply states what most of America feels. He will not be owned by anyone. She has more donations from Middle East prelates that anyone else. I’ll never forget when , after 9/11, the Saudi Prince offered millions of dollars as a donation to Rudy Giuliano for NYC. He turned them down. Remember the 19 terrorist were from Saudi. Her own staff has said in e mails she has difficulty assimilating things. What kind of President would this be? We’ve already had a horror show with an inept bungler and you think we should get another. To answer your question, Hillary is that bad.

  • Don Keller

    Yes, she can be that bad…

  • TeeJay 2

    Where to begin? She can’t tell whether a communique ought to be kept secret. She’s been bought by Wall Street AND the Arabs. She worked hard to lose Libya. She voted for the Bush-initiated, Obama-continued wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Her closest advisor on how to run things was educated in Saudi and funded by the Muslim Brotherhood (no wonder she can’t say “islamic terrorism”!). Her policy positions are cooked in a waffle machine. Her husband gave away American jobs with Nafta, and she isn’t going to bring them back. She’s for open borders, natch — that’s what the oligarchs want. She has no reason whatsoever for wanting to be president except ego and money.

    Trump leaves a lot to be desired, but one thing is sure, if she gets elected, ISIS will jump for Joy, and if he gets elected, they’ll just jump.

    • life5678

      you forgot her confident and right hand ‘man’ is an Iranian spy.

      • TeeJay 2

        OK. Give me a source, and I’ll be glad to add that.
        In any case, her election means “death to America” without any Muslims having to fire a single shot.

  • FredFilopek

    What does Donald offer us ? World War with the Muslims? Oh I forgot he’s going to do stuff.

    • Zelsdorf

      Fred. did you miss something? We are at war with Islam, or rather they are at war with us. Obama’s Islamic background could lead one to believe he is easing them into the country as the Muslim population has doubled since his election. Maybe you should have someone read the Koran to you. This is not a religion of peace. But then if you think Trump wants war with Islam, you have not been paying attention. Are you really an American? You do not sound like one.

      • Fritz123

        We should be cruzaders defending Assad against the Neoosmanic Empire from Ankara to Riad. But if we forget Assad and so on they dont attack “us”.

      • Avedon

        Er, have you read the Bible? We have plenty of Americans quoting it as a reason not only to make war against the rest of the world, but to murder other Americans and even beat their own children to death. They even want to kill other Christians for not being “Christian” enough. They’ve been running around the US for decades trying to gin up world war with the USSR, or Russia, or in the middle east, even when there was no reason to. They ardently advocate for arming Israel and supporting the most belligerently provocative and war-like policies there in order to create their world war that will wipe out everyone in the area – including all of the Jews and the Christians who live there. Their version of “Christianity” is certainly not a religion of peace.

        • life5678

          Wow, you must be the most ignorant jackazz on the planet.

      • FredFilopek

        Are you going to join. up and fight? Anyone you know ? Didn’t think so.. If Trump didn’t want war why would he antagonize them by refusing to let them in our country . He’s a disgrace to our country that was founded by people seeking freedom .Did you study American History?

    • HawaiiRules

      Yeah–I guess we all forgot how detailed Obama’s plans were….he promised the moon and stars with no details, and delivered a pile of sh*t.

      • FredFilopek

        What’s Donald going to do?

    • life5678

      The Muslims are already at world war. Name one Muslim country that is not at war or constantly being attacked by Muslim terrorists.Try again.

      • Fritz123

        Rebels are no party in war.

      • Avedon

        You could probably name Muslim countries that are “not at war or constantly being attacked by Muslim terrorists” if you knew which countries were majority-Muslim, but you probably don’t. HTH: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country

        • life5678

          I know all of the ones that are, but ignorant pinheads like you try to make themselves look smart when they are not. Your link is irrelevant BTW. EVERY country with a SIGNIFICANT Muslim population has issues with them. All have Muslim terrorist mass murders. Name one that you think doesn’t and I will prove otherwise with links and documentation. Ignorant fool.

    • Fritz123

      He is a reasonable man. He was maklng a joke or just calculating risks and asking a question. Somehow terroridts must come in. Do what you can do. Every reasonable man will agree.

      • FredFilopek

        Some joke .We need a serious candidate.

        • Fritz123

          Thats why he is better than Hillary. He may have some common sense. The work is serious, the rest is show.

          Hillary runs a bad show. And makes worse jokes. Has Trump ever made a joke about the killing of a foreign head of states by an imbecile lynchmob?

          • FredFilopek

            No. Trump wants to incite Muslims in our county and everywhere like they need more motivation to attack us. Just brilliant!

          • life5678

            Like they need motivation! Are you freaking kidding me? You are as ignorant and clueless about Islam as they come. Please educate yourself:

            http://www.johnwalton-is.net/download/Story%20of%20Mohammed%20Islam%20Unveiled.pdf

          • FredFilopek

            Not all Muslims are radicals but antagonizing doesn’t help does it.

          • johnleehooker

            Frankly I’m ANTAGONIZED and INCITED by the prospect of being BEHEADED.

          • FredFilopek

            You have a better chance of dying by having furniture fall on you . If your scared by an. assault rife and hide in your basement.

          • johnleehooker

            ENGLISH bubba – i) sarcasm ii) antagonized and incited is NOT a synonym for scared. iii)”your” is not the same as “you’re”. The contraction you should have used is “you’re”.

            Your “I’m Too Stupid to Vote” hat is in the mail. I’ve tossed in an “I’m a Gruber” button. Please wear them both in public as the rest of us deserve to know when you’re in the vicinity. (see the use of Your vs You’re)

          • FredFilopek

            Sorry . You can’t win the argument so you insult me .

          • johnleehooker

            Carter BANNED ALL IRANIANS (aka muslims) during the hostage crisis and DEPORTED IRANIAN STUDENTS
            it’s your position (?) that if we’re “nice” to muslims they’ll not try to hack us to pieces and blow us up?

          • FredFilopek

            What about the 4000 to 10, 000 Muslims who serve in our military and fight and. die for us . Do you fear them too.

          • johnleehooker

            productive activity calls, and this is clearly Pearls Before Swine but:

            1. Trump stated that current citizens who are muslim would not be subject to the ban.

            2. I have NO feelings for muslims in the military other than the appreciation they, and all of those serving, deserve.

          • Fritz123

            I dont believe it. And I dont fear them anyway. There is a nice article in Haaretz today.

          • FredFilopek

            I don’t fear them either but republicans want as always to be afraid . Be very afraid.

        • Fritz123

          “I’m dangerous. She’s the one that caused all this problem with her stupid policies. You look at what she did with Libya, what she did with Syria. Look at Egypt. What happened with Egypt, a total mess. They don’t back — we don’t back any of our allies. “

    • Avedon

      Actually, Hillary is pretty belligerently pro-war with Muslims, especially Iran. There are way too many places where Clinton’s policies are barely distinguishable from the worst Republican policies.

  • tambemsou assim

    Trump may not be tactful when he makes a point, but he always speaks his mind and tells the truth whereas Hillary lies though her teeth whenever she opens her mouth. For my money, I’ll take Trump anytime.

  • diamondstate

    Mr. Buckley went on ad nauseum about how self-evidently awful Trump is, without offering any evidence whatsoever of how this is so.

    • David Roberson

      This was a story about Hilary Clinton.

      • diamondstate

        Yes I’m aware of that. Thanks for the nonsequitur, but what does it have to do with my comment?

      • life5678

        Actually it was a story about Hillary being worse than Trump, so comments about both are on topic.

      • diamondstate

        Yes I am aware of that. What does that have to do with my comment?

  • wylie123

    I suspect the fear of a Trump administration has more to do with goring someone’s ox rather than how he would govern as president. A lot of people ride our government for payouts that would stop. Maybe that is the fear.

    • HawaiiRules

      That is exactly the fear–of both democrats and establishment republicans.

      • Its_All_Baloney

        Or maybe we’re afraid of having a loose cannon running our foreign policy, let alone domestic politics.

        I was convinced that Trump’s only purpose in running for president was to split the Republican vote and usher Ma Hillary into the White House. Now, it’s beginning to look like we may have a positive side effect: Trump is starting to make Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio look good. Like, good enough to win.

        • vortex100

          Nothing anyone, least of all Trump, does will ever make Cruz look good. He is widely despised in Congress (with very good reason), and when the American public finds out his far right wing stands of many issues, he will be roundly rejected.

          • johnleehooker

            “widely despised in Congress” well, I WILDLY DESPISE CONGRESS

  • UrbanCamper

    I will vote Trump over Clinton any day. I hope he doesn’t get the nomination, but he is the lesser of two evils – no comparison. He is a blustery narcissist. She is an outright sociopath. On the same scale true, but Trump is at least a bit closer to sane.

    • life5678

      Please tell us which of the candidates is NOT a narcissist. Or any past president for that matter. It is a prerequisite for the job.

  • Max

    Chris Buckley, like so many rebels from the 60’s is actually a conformist who would never dare to tweak in the slightest his Church of Liberal Orthodoxy. Don Trump, on the other hand, is a true rebel who doesn’t give a flip what anyone thinks–right, left or center. Trump has a greater rebellious streak in one of his un-tattooed knuckles than Buckley has in his entire body. I would hope that former bad boy Christopher would appreciate that but, alas, no. He was only counter-culture when it was stylishly in and therefore was actually never a rebel at all; just a mere conformist. Trump is a wonderful and capable man who actually gets things done, big things in a big way. He has given millions and millions, perhaps over a billion to charity, not counting his political donations. Far from being a wild card Trump is and unorthodox but very steady hand; he has dealt with political leaders for decades while building his massive sky scrapers all around the world and managing his real estate and branding empire. People line up around the world to go into business ventures with him. If he were an unpredictable wild man or cheated his cohorts, this would not happen. Trump is so clearly the better of the two–he and Hillary. More than mere comparison to a venal, inept hack, the Donald has the potential to in some measure tame the establishment and return a modicum of power to the citizenry. I suppose it is just too much to hope that a man with Buckley’s past might see and appreciate that. But no, Chris after all is just another small, conformist weenie, standing in the shadow of his father who was also a true rebel resisting the elitist establishment Fabian credo.

    • Clive

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-thinks-1-million-is-small-loan-so-colbert-wants-him-to-donate-it-to-kids_563243c6e4b00aa54a4d0f01
      …Trump has said he’s donated $102 million in cash and land to philanthropic and conservation groups over the last five years, an amount that actually pales in comparison to his equally wealthy peers, the Associated Press reported.

      However his campaign has provided little documentation for most of those donations, and the Donald J. Trump foundation’s tax filings indicate that he’s made no charitable donations to his eponymous nonprofit since 2008, the AP also noted. …

      • TeeJay 2

        Clinton Foundation has taken in millions from Saudi, Qatar, the Moroccans, etc.

      • Max

        Trump has been splashing around for 40 years, so the past five years begins to cover it. Also, the amount you cite is probably for Trump personally. As you well know, Trump owns and has interests in literally hundreds of entities, all of which, no doubt, make various types of giving. He also very likely does many other acts of giving that don’t make it into the tax write off list. So the hundred million you cite is a nice gem in what is certain to be a great little treasure trove of good works. Thank you very much for responding!

    • TeeJay 2

      In all fairness to Christopher Buckley, he bolted beause of McCain/Palin. Obama was clever enough to hide his marxism and anti-white (“Eurocentrist”) perspectives (who would have thought, given his alleged love for white granny?). He couldn’t hide his “empty-suit-ness” but Palin flaunted her lack of sophistication. Sad. She was a reasonably decent governor but completely unprepared for the world stage and was enticed onto it by a candidate too lazy to do proper vetting for his running mate. Bill Buckley would have supported McCain, but only just.

      • Max

        Thanks for the perspective. As an elitist, Chris would find Palin more than grating. This just shows he is trapped in his elitist Fabian Society roots and probably has no self-awareness of it. I have always found Chris to be almost intriguing but he never quite grabs me. It’s like, “Come on Chris, you’re so close to being deep, you’re so close.” But then, presto, the point is mundane or missing. I can never quite figure it out; it’s like there is a wall in his brain and all his ideas crash into it and slide down to the ground.

        • expitch

          Not only that, but his prose is gaudy and full of forced humor. In short, he writes badly.

          • Max

            Well…His writing is kind of like waiting for Godot, rather interesting while waiting, but like Godot, the point of it all never arrives or is never clearly defined. I think that is supposed to pass as deep thinking, but I rather think he just really doesn’t know what he wants to say or doesn’t really know what he thinks about anything. He seems kind of lost–forty years in the wilderness and all of that rubbish, but the time has now come. Come on Chris, take a stand on something for once–just one time! Please, you will feel better in the morning. I always finish a C. Buckley piece thinking what was this really all about.

          • Max

            That in fewer words is what I’ve been getting out. His verbiage is rather like a dress on a mannequin, rather than on a beautiful woman. At this point, a dress on a plain Jane would be in improvement!

          • expitch

            Maybe is fewer words but not in better ones.

  • HawaiiRules

    Clinton is a crook and a liar that will say anything she thinks wants to be heard, meanwhile everything she actually does puts her own (and Bill’s) self-interest and greed first, that of her cronies second, the country and average Americans come in dead last.

    • life5678

      typical liberals. She accurately reflects what they look for in a leader.

    • vortex100

      The same can easily be said of Trump. Your words mean nothing.

      • life5678

        How’s that? Please site one outright lie.

        • vortex100

          “thousand upon thousands of Muslims in New Jersey were seen cheering the

          attacks on the World Trade Center buildings.” — a clear and quite obvious lie. Just one amongst many. Trump has more Pinocchios awarded to him then any other candidate.

  • The joy of living in CA is that your Presidential vote doesn’t count. Well, it won’t affect the election, at least. As a solid blue state with the great unwashed (well, uninformed) voting that November in the Golden State, the outcome is preordained — the Democrat (whoever the nominee) gets 100% of California’s Electoral College votes. It won’t be close.

    So why is that joyous? Because one can vote for who you WANT to win — not against who you want to lose most. Doesn’t matter.

    Hence if Trump wins the GOP nomination, I’ll joyously vote for the Libertarian Party candidate — presumably former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson. I’ll not feel compelled to vote for the lesser evil — Hillary of The Donald.

    The next morning I’ll be able to look myself in the mirror and smile broadly at my good fortune — and wise decision making.

    We are SO screwed.

    • Ben FrankIin

      Only 20 years ago, California was electing Republicans. Nothing is static in politics. I doubt Trump will put California in play, but it seems unquestionable many other lighter blue states will be with “The Donald” as the nominee.

      • 57nomad

        There are about 5 or 6 million new Mexicans. A politician who was elected by the illegal vote about 20 years ago, Democrat Loretta Sanchez, has come out IN FAVOR of Trumps position on the muslims.

    • TeeJay 2

      If you really think we are screwed, there are other things you can do. Write letters — to editors, senators, governor, etc. Join your neighborhood watch team and learn how to use a gun the proper way (and I say that after decades of opposition to household guns . . . but no more). Encourage your officials to impeach Obama.

    • johnleehooker

      …but what you can do for the country…

  • John Torres

    Sorry, Chris. There is not a single politician on the Republican or Libertarian side who would not be better.

    Trump is a wildcard. But Hillary is a known quantity. Maybe Trump will do awful things. Maybe he will be a disaster.

    But there is NO question with Hillary.

    • cruisedoc

      Neither will do anything they are promising. Only congress can pass a tariff act, tax code, fund deportation, or give free tuition. It’s hot air.

      • life5678

        No, Congress can’t do ANYTHING without either getting the president’s signature or a 2/3 vote (good luck with that). So if they don’t send the bill HE wants to his desk, it won’t get signed. That’s seriously basic stuff.

    • life5678

      No question….that Hillary will continue with her HORRIBLE decision making. Libya, Russian reset, Arab Spring, Yemen, Iraq, email server, TPP, Iran, and on and on. There is not one thing Hillary has done right, not one decision that has not had terrible consequences.

      Ya, she would be much better than a self made billionaire who obviously has made thousands of huge, successful decisions – from massive building projects to successful TV shows.

      And what is Trump proposing other than upholding immigration law? Or do you advocate lawlessness? Every single proposal Trump has made, including putting a hold on Muslims, is already US law, which the current administration is blatantly breaking and Hillary openly admits that she has no intention of upholding. Just like her email server. So who is the more qualified person for president? Trump who respects the law or Hillary who breaks the law?

      Ya, right……a real wild card

    • drhill

      Apart from her alcohol sodden face, her shrieking cackle and her absolute lack of truthfulness on anything whatsoever – what’s there not to like?

  • Mark Kraft

    Please note: Christopher Buckley is a writer of fiction, and cannot be trusted to do any research whatsoever.

    Case in point…

    The $300,000 that Hillary Clinton got from her speech at UCLA, was privately funded as part of a lecture series endowed by a private investor… not by students.

    Similarly, her appearance at UNLV was funded by the nonprofit foundation associated with the school, rather than the school itself. And that speech, which swelled donations at the foundation’s annual fundraising dinner, more than paid for itself, officials noted.

    See http://www.cbsnews.com/news/behind-the-scenes-of-hillary-clintons-300000-speech-at-ucla/ for my citations. So, where are *YOUR* citations, Mr. Buckley?!

    • Wemedge

      So that means she’s OK, then? Oh I’m so relieved!

    • life5678

      Oh my, that certainly clears up all the lies she has ever told……NOT!

    • Vox_Clams

      What did she sing for an encore?

      Or what did the private citizens who paid the big bucks think they were getting in return?

      B-R-I-B-E.

      It would have been better had the students been coerced into paying, then only the college admins are guilty of corruption.

    • drhill

      Defending Hil liar y Clinton just makes you look all the sillier. She really is the dregs of political sludge.

  • MisterEd13

    Actually, Trump is the best candidate to come along in years. I wear my “Make America Great Again” cap proudly. I’d settle for Cruz, but I want Trump.

    • cruisedoc

      Yeah, he stole that one too. “Let’s Make America Great Again” was Ronald Reagan’s slogan, and I assure you Reagan would NOT approve of Trump. Having read several books on Reagan, I do believe he would approve of Ted Cruz.

  • 57nomad

    Donald Trump’s positions both on illegal immigration and halting muslim immigration is supported by the majority of the American people. Those criticizing Trump represent the minority opinion. See you at the polls.

    • cruisedoc

      It is quite possible to both agree with his immigration positions and 1. Realize they aren’t much different than most other GOP candidates. 2. As the man says, prefer jumping into a bubbling volcano than ever vote for Trump.
      BTW, immigration & banning Muslims from entering are 2 different things, and 58% OPPOSE the ban on Muslims. Banning those from a specific country or countries, such as Syria, would probably be better received than banning those of a specific faith/religion.

      PS: Any GOP candidate likely to win has about the same immigration position. The ‘deport 11 million’ part is hot air & isn’t going to happen, and Trump knows this. Go to Trump’s website & read his immigration plan, then compare it with others. See Much difference? No. ….and on Trump’s website not ONE word about deporting the 11 million or whatever the number is.

      • esqualido

        Well, I, for one felt his call for a ban on the use of Arabic numerals was a step too far- how am I supposed to do my 1040?

        • johnleehooker

          funny, sort of but on the issue:

          see 8 USC S 1182 – Inadmissable Aliens. btw, Carter exercised this law in banning ALL IRANIANS (aka muslims) from entering the US during the hostage crisis. btw, he DEPORTED IRANIAN STUDENTS.
          the “temporary ban” not only makes senses…IT’S THE LAW OF THE LAN

          • Funkenstein✓FuNk-ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            iranians, not muslims

          • johnleehooker

            ah yes, my favorite cyber stalker rises up from the muck where he lives.

            btw, Iran = MUSLIM STATE

          • Funkenstein✓FuNk-ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            you really are dumb, arent you?

          • johnleehooker

            funny, you’re the punk who has obsessively cyber stalked me, and others btw who have replied that you’ve stalked them as well, and I’m the one with a problem.

            are the voices still blathering in your head?

          • Funkenstein✓FuNk-ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            do you always feel followed? is that why you have a gun? scared?

          • Funkenstein✓FuNk-ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            You did not answer my question. You really are dumb, arent you?

      • life5678

        And what is Trump proposing other than upholding immigration law? Or do you advocate lawlessness? Every single proposal Trump has made, including putting a hold on Muslims, is already US law, which the current administration is blatantly breaking and Hillary openly admits that she has no intention of upholding those laws. So who is the more qualified person for president? A law respecting Trump or a law breaking Clinton?

    • Chris Bartelt

      Hear hear. Gwaan Trump lad!
      The Creature Clinton can’t even breathe without lying.

      • life5678

        At least it is easy to tell when she is lying, her lips are moving

    • Guinnessmonkey

      His positions on illegal immigration or halting muslim immigration aren’t even supported by all Trump supporters, and by nowhere near a majority of the American people. I’m not sure where you’re getting your data.

      • Cyril Sneer

        I reckon you might be in for a shock.

      • 57nomad
        • Vox_Clams

          Those are people who are willing to tell a pollster that they agree with a politically incorrect proposition.

          The actual number is much higher, because: a) sharia law conflicts with principles held dear by well over 90% of the US population; and b) most people understand that even though the number of Muslims willing to support or commit terrorist acts may be much smaller, hundreds of millions of Muslims support sharia law (eg., treating women like chattel, stoning gays to death, death penalty for converting from Islam, censorship of speech regarding religion, etc.). http://go.clarionproject.org/numbers-full-film/

          The question becomes: how do you convince a few hundred million Muslims to join the modern civilized world?

          George W. Bush was convinced that if we deposed Saddam Hussein, Iraqis would embrace representative government and other modern civilization values. The Iraqis did, so long as US troops kept the bad guys at bay. But as soon as the troops left, the modern society and government infrastructure of Iraq crumbled. W’s “build it and they will come” philosophy only worked when it was supported with a tremendous commitment of military and financial resources. Because not enough Americans supported it, the experiment has to be judged a failure (even if it is Obama’s fault for not following through on the commitment and the plan).

          Anyone got a better idea?

      • frankjohnson221

        You must look beyond the beltway and NYT and you will find about 60% of the people support Trump on immigration.

  • vortex100

    A good deal of this article deals with the supposed lies coming out of Clinton’s mouth, but there is little said about the generous whoppers spewing forth from Trump on a daily basis. They are at the very least neck and neck when it comes to the count of lies. So, who to choose, if the choice actually comes down to those two? The independents who are voicing their opinions to the pollsters have already said it will not be Mr. Trump.

    • life5678

      Please cite any out-right lies that Trump has put forth.

  • MenAreLikeWine

    I’m of the opinion that compared to Hilary, Trump doesn’t seem that bad.

    • not a liberal

      “I’m of the opinion that compared to Hilary,” Obama doesn’t look that bad. At least he’s away from office more than at it, and the media has actually called out some of his whoppers. I fear The Clintoons in the house would go full Marcos on us.

    • Mary Ann

      Of the two it’s got to be Hillary, Trump is terrible.

      • Johnnydub

        Says the resident sanctimonious leftist asshat for this blog…

  • The Laughing Cavalier

    Even worse than all the lies is the prospect of a President who “gets confused”.

    • life5678

      ….so easily.

  • Count Down *402*

    Hillary has a pronounced “street walker” bent. Whether or not she could still be bought once elected president is an open question, but it’s reassuring to know we would be in with a chance.

  • John

    Mr Buckley- real nice writing and OH, your cloven hoof is showing. Brace yourself because the election of one BERNIE Sanders is upon us all…and God will have answered so many sincere prayers with hope and justice.

    • drhill

      …and unicorns will take the sky – and there will be free sh**t for all!

  • The Masked Marvel

    Why do you think Trump is in this in the first place? To sabotage the anti-establishment Republican candidates and to enable Hillary Clinton – Goldman Sachs and Wall Street’s favourite candidate. Trump’s fortune will improve more with Hillary as President than if he wins. Which he won’t, even if it’s him against Hillary.

  • Craig S. Maxwell

    Hilariously dead-on.

    • drhill

      Hil liar ious

      :-l

  • Ed  

    Don’t worry. The FBI will definitely find Clinton’s incriminating e-mails. Then shred them. They work for Obama, after all.

  • Vox_Clams

    I have loathed Donald Trump since the ’80s. The fact that many judge this con artist to be a “success” is downright depressing. His 15 minutes of fame should have expired when the USFL folded.

    There are that not many people on planet earth for whom I would not vote for in order to vote against Trump.

    But of course, Hilary Clinton is one of them.

    Con man who loves himself enough to love his country for the sake of his good name versus a pathological liar who would tell the military not to “spin up” in the face of a terrorist attack and then lie to the nation about how freedom of speech was really to blame?

    It matters not if she ordered the hit on Vince Foster; Hilary is a well-documented nightmare beyond the prophetic imagination of George Orwell.

    Those of us who love liberty tend to think that “progressives” who champion policies that seriously impinge on freedom are simply misguided, not evil. Well-intentioned, just not understanding the consequences of what they think will achieve their goals.

    Hilary Clinton, however, is evil.

    I figure that if she gets elected I have 2 to 3 years to figure out a plan for moving (it will take her that long to develop a soviet-style system for keeping people from leaving the country with their money).

    • Guinnessmonkey

      It’s easy to paint someone is evil if you just make stuff up about them. *eyeroll*

  • Gilbert White

    Richard Nixon embodies honesty and fair play compared to this lot?

  • Henry Filth

    Leave the poor Americans alone to do their politics. No good ever came of sticking your nose in other countries politics.

    Just let the poor sods vote in peace.

  • Marshal Phillips

    Mrs Clinton’s one very tough, smart lady who knows how to deal with terrorism and foreign policy with sense-able strategic planning. Trump’s all boots on the ground and another World War.

    • WTF

      Yeah right, Benghazi !

      • Marshal Phillips

        US Congress held multiple hearings on Benghazi and issued numerous reports, nothing showed Mrs Clinton did anything wrong; in fact the instant she heard of the attack she called the Secretary of Defense and others to help. Also the last Benghazi hearing, which was specifically designed, admittedly so, by her partisan political opponents, the Republicans, to bring down her poll numbers, did the exact opposite with the polls and contributions to her campaign for the presidency.
        Whatever her faults or foibles the public is sick to death of the GOP’s obsession with Benghazi. US has had several “Benghazis” in prior administrations particularly Reagan and Bush, but no campaign to pin the blame on them. Benghazi is beating a dead horse.

        • WTF

          It still leaves the matter of the families of those killed being told one thing by Clinton and her emails saying something completely different to her daughter and others. Are you suggesting all those family members are liars because their overwhelming version of what she said immediately after the attack is completely different to what she now claims !

          • Marshal Phillips

            What she told her daughter in a private email was based on the intel and info available to her at the time. This was All Gone Over in great detail at the last hearing. The public has moved on.

          • WTF

            What she told her daughter was indeed based on intel and that was available immediately after the attack and it hasn’t changed since. Late on that night of the attacks in Benghazi, Clinton tells her that the attacks were undertaken by an “Al Queda-like group.” not some disparate group reacting to a video. What she told the families several days later when the information hadn’t changed and has NEVER changed from day 1, was completely different. Basically, she lied to the family and the country.

            You might wish that everyone has moved on and indeed they have but most have not forgotten that she is a serial liar and this was just one example.

          • Marshal Phillips

            A terrorist group had indeed claimed credit on the Internet for the attack. This has been endless reported and gone over it great detail. She didn’t lie, it was a changing situation with information and intel changing over time.
            The American public has moved on and since the Last Benghazi congressional hearing both her poll numbers and contributions to her campaign have increased. Not even Faux Noise propaganda machine is beating that old dead Benghazi horse anymore.

          • WTF

            Wrong, within the confines of the administration the facts never changed as within 2 hours of the embassy compound being attacked she knew it was a terrorist attack and even told the families of the dead it was while telling the country it was a spontaneous attack in response to a video.

            http://www.i-am-bored.com/2015/03/when-did-hillary-know-benghazi-was-terrorismpic.html

            The families accounts are the same as the email she sent to her daughter and others so who is lying here ? Both she and Obama have form on twisting the truth just like their lame work place violence excuse for Islamic Jihadism on American soil !

            Are you saying the families lied over what Clinton said to them. Perhaps you would have the honesty to answer that point instead of evading it.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Everything was happening during the fog of war, a terrorist group claimed credit blaming the video, other attacks were occurring other places, then the terrorist group claiming credit later retracted. It’s still not completely clear.
            Meanwhile The Most Important Thing was happening: Hillary immediately called the Sec of Defense and others for help at the two Benghazi compounds under attack.
            Now US has captured what it believes is the mastermind of the Benghazi attack and he is under US imprisonment awaiting trial.
            And US still does not know the exact motives and how many were involved.
            The families are grieving, of course; it’s a very personal tragedy for them. But what they heard from the Secretary of State was NOT a lie as she believed at the time she talked with them. And actually she herself, as the US and others, still do not know all the details.
            But Benghazi as a tool to bring down Hillary’s poll numbers is a complete failure.

          • WTF

            There was no fog of war, it was a terrorist attack as in

            “less than two hours into the attack, they (Clinton & company) were told that the
            al-Qaeda affiliate in Libya, Ansar al-Sharia, had claimed
            responsibility. These revelations and others are disclosed by a trove of
            e-mails and other documents pried from the State Department by Judicial
            Watch in a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit.”

            Who feeds you with bull sh** as all the evidence is contrary to what you’re trying on. Give it up, you’re a novice at lying compared to Clinton and even she failed on this one. She didn’t lie to the families at the time but lied to the country instead. Recently however, she has lied to the families and country by trying to say they ‘mis-understood’ her when she clearly told them it was a terrorist act and at the same time, a spontaneous act to the country.

            There was no fog of war as she had one version of events for the families and another for the country, each very different from each other and her lies even confirmed by her own emails.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Benghazi attack indeed was done in the fog of war in the middle east amidst all the other fighting, and droning, and bombing, and other terrorists attacks occurring at the same time as Benghazi.
            Congress held several hearings and issued several reports.
            The “mastermind” has been caught and is awaiting public trial.
            US still doesn’t know exactly who was involved and “the motive” as US Only Has Apprehended ONE person and he isn’t talking.
            The Secretary of State talked with the grieving families and shared with them what she knew at the time.
            BUT The Most Important Thing she did was to IMMEDIATELY call the US Sec of Defense and others for help at the Benghazi compounds.
            This is all about trying to bring down Hillary’s poll numbers by her partisan political enemies AS they have publicly admitted on Fox.

          • WTF

            Lets get this right for goodness sakes. The fog of war is the uncertainty in situational awareness experienced by participants in military operations.

            1/ There was no military operation at the time.

            2/ Within two hours of the pre-planned terrorist attack, Clinton was fully advised correctly to the situation. There was a brief two hours of time between the start of the attack and when she knew exactly what was going on. Its all clearly documented but you haven’t managed to post any links supporting your opposite assertions.

            Your fog of war doesn’t cut it to cover up her lies. Why can’t you just admit that at the same time she told the families it was a pre-planned terrorist attack she also told the country it was in response to some video. She lied, its that simple.

            All that other stuff you’ve posted doesn’t deflect from her lies about the actual attack !

            You seem to have forgotten that the horse had already bolted by the time she may have called for help to the compound. The staff there had previously asked her to beef up the security there as they felt they were vulnerable to attack and had insufficient support but Clintons and her department denied that request. A day late and a dollar short and lives lost because she knew better than people on the spot !

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/state-dept-downgraded-security-in-libya-before-deadly-attack-ex-officer-claims/2012/10/10/d7195faa-12e6-11e2-a16b-2c110031514a_story.html

          • Marshal Phillips

            Ever since the US invaded Iraq there was a fog of war with acts of terrorism occurring all over the middle east on a weekly basis. And indeed at the time of the Benghazi attacks there were concurrently other acts of terrorism going on at the same time. And a terrorist group claimed on line that the Benghazi attack was because of that video. Hillary merely reflected what intel and info was telling her as it occurred.
            You very obviously have a partisan political agenda here to try as hard as you can, with others, to make political smears out of a tragedy.
            US still doesn’t know all the details about those responsible and their specific motives. And she DID NOT tell the country that it was in response to the video: She correctly reported that “some” have claimed the attack was because of the video BECAUSE Some DID indeed make this claim online and tie it to the video, although later that claim was retracted by those making the claim further fogging the situation. But there were other terrorists attacks which also raised the issue of that video which was widely shown in the middle east.
            Clinton did NOT deny requests for beefed up security! She like her predecessors leave those decisions to trained experienced security experts in the State Dept.
            ALL the points you repeatedly bring up have been answered in the several congressional hearings and reports.
            We the People have moved on from Benghazi as a means to bring down Hillary’s poll numbers.
            But do carry on if it satisfies your lust for trashing Hillary. It goes with the territory these days in Republican circles who are scared to death that Hillary will soon be Madam President.

          • WTF

            If we all follow your line of “The Fog of War” then we’ve all been in that state for 1400 years ever since Islam started its colonialism by force of states around the globe.

            http://www.meforum.org/3182/history-muslim-conquests

            Of course those on the left refuse to embrace the truth of this very clear truth which is why Obama and Clinton have consistently refused to call IS for what it is.

            If it was Clintons staff who refused to beef up security in Benghazi and not Clinton herslef, then she’s (a) obviously unconcerned about her staff in a dangerous spot in the world and (b) doesn’t believe in the buck stops at the top. That’s called reckless endangerment in most peoples book. Real leaders cover your back but to expect that of Obama or Clinton would be asking too much.

            I don’t have to trash Clinton as she does a pretty good job herself with excuses over her email server shenanigans that emulate a 10 year old kid telling their teacher “the dog ate my homework”. However true to form, liberals like yourself offer no external references to back your stated position unlike my URL’s and you rely on sycophantic obfuscation to support a serial liar.

          • Marshal Phillips

            The details of the middle eastern fog of war are very well known specifically and were highlighted in the multiple hearings and reports on Benghazi. And yes I did watch the hearings.
            The State Dept’s career Under Secretary of State for Management approved a number of requests made by Embassy Tripoli for additional security prior to the attacks. DOS has more than 285 diplomatic facilities around the world and has experienced career security and law enforcement personnel who keep watch. It is their specific job for this specific task.
            The Secretary of State like a Commanding General has career staff who detail the work overseeing security and law enforcement needs.
            In Libya specifically, contrary to Republican claims, the State Dept fulfilled a number of security requests from Embassy Tripoli throughout 2011 and 2012. And just prior to her leaving Secretary Clinton implemented a number of major reforms to boost the preparedness of State Dept officials posted in some of the most dangerous places around the world.
            And YES, of course, today we are in a constant fog of war everywhere US maintains installations. In war folks get killed. That’s what war is: killing. We can maintain vigilance, But in war lives are lost. Those are the very well known risks of serving not only in the military but in the Dept of State itself as an historical look back on prior administrations such as the attacks that occurred during Reagan and Bush’s presidencies.
            Your posts are like the villainous misguided (and self destructive) characters of Inspector Javert in Les Miz and Uriah Heep in David Copperfield merged into one obnoxious person: cloying insincerity obsessed with punishment.

          • WTF

            Unfortunately you’re very long on rhetoric but absent on links to back up your assertions. When or perhaps if you can substantiate your claims it might be worth my time engaging further in this debate but despite a number of supporting links to reputable sources that I have supplied, you have supplied none. I am not in the habit of believing anyone who cant back their claims and personal attacks that liberals use have no effect on me, so for now, I’ll bid you good day .

          • Marshal Phillips

            From your first post you made the Republican Talking Points claims.
            I challenged every claim and cited the Benghazi Congressional Hearings as my source which I watched.
            Regardless of those Talking Points, the GOP has been unsuccessful in its partisan smear campaign against Clinton.

          • WTF

            You need a lesson in web site navigation and how to copy URL links.

            You may have challenged claims but you never backed them up with URL links for verification as why should I believe what you assert when your too lazy to provide that link. As I said before, liberals make many claims without verifiable proof, they then resort to name calling but NEVER supply a URL link with their first fatuous claims. Its the same tired old attempts we’ve seen so many times previously.

          • Marshal Phillips

            The best source is the Congressional hearings themselves and the reports.
            I did watch the hearings.
            You can actually read the reports.
            Even the Republicans and their running dogs on the Faux Noise Propaganda Machine have stopped your tiresome Benghazi Talking Points because We the People DID watch the hearings, ESPECIALLY the last one! End of Story.
            And AFTER the Last Hearing Hillary’s poll numbers and campaign contributions increased.
            You refuted none of my last post on this matter. News opinion accounts are just opinions.

          • WTF

            Still waiting for those URL links you seem to have trouble finding as I don’t believe in Chinese whispers as a source of truth or facts, Why would I bother refuting unproven and unverified gossip !

          • Marshal Phillips

            Still waiting for your to refute my last post about the Undersecretary of State for Management.
            I actually watched the hearings.
            Nevertheless, Benghazi has not driven Hillary’s poll numbers down; in fact, after the Last Hearing her polls numbers and contributions went up.
            I believe in watching the hearings, as did We the People.

          • WTF

            I have responded already about Clinton and the request for extra security. Her department denied that request so she is either incompetent in failing to judge the situation correctly, hadn’t a clue of what is going on in her department or rejected that request herself. Which ever of these it was, that’s not the sort of leader people want who don’t cover your back.

          • Marshal Phillips

            All requests were NOT denied!
            Career professionals handled security requests.
            A commander of an army relies on professionals to handle security.
            People get killed in war and American installations all over the world.
            State Dept as well as military personnel.
            Those are the well known risks.
            How many Americans were killed in prior administrations on attacks on State and Military installations?
            This Hillary-Benghazi witch hunt you’re pursuing is a fool’s errand.

          • WTF

            We agree to disagree about certain facts but lets talk about her lies last night over taxation as the woman is completely deranged.

            She claims on TV last night that the highest rate of income tax is 10%, the last time I looked (1 minute ago) the top rate was standing at 39.6%, clearly just as Benghazi, she’s mentally challenged, deluded or a liar. Hardly the sort of credentials you want to lead a kindergarten let alone a country.

            BTW – Here’s a link to back up my point on tax, where are yours on your previous points ?

            http://www.moneychimp.com/features/tax_brackets.htm

          • WTF

            Its not just Benghazi its her lack of security concerns over emails, she’s in the pocket of super rich donors whilst promoting re-distribution of wealth, lies over wealth redistribution which would do Robert Mugabe proud and many other undesirable facets of her nature highlighting hypocrisy and double standards.

            Twenty years ago my American company’s email and product documentation servers were secured with revolving credit card authentication which blocked access to non staff and certain information could not be accessed from the field. What does she do for national security, have a mom & pop IT outfit set up her national security personal server in a bathroom, come on now, is she for real. She’s not only a consummate liar on all matters as she’s a danger to national security as well.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Of course! Change the subject when you can’t deny that not all security requests were denied by the Undersecretary of State for Management.

            Now you’re just posting more personal, political & GOP Talking Points.

          • WTF

            The subject was all about a serial liar and I’m still on subject !

          • Marshal Phillips

            The subject has turned into YOU!

          • WTF

            Just keep digging that libtard hole by resorting to name calling rather than backing up your lame spin.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Name calling? LOL You started it: “a serial liar”

          • WTF

            Deflection doesn’t work either as you know full well I was referring to Clinton and not you.

          • Marshal Phillips

            “Deflection”? LOL You started the dreaded “Name calling” FIRST by calling Mrs Clinton a “serial liar”.

          • WTF

            Well she is, Clinton even lies when claiming last week that IS is
            promoting videos of Trump to aid their cause when there’s NO evidence of
            that on the internet and even fact checks on liberal media agrees there is no proof to back up her new lies. We all expect politicians to embellish facts but invent them
            out of thin air when there’s no evidence, only serial liars like Clinton
            do this because its in their genes to lie, they cant help it. In fact they lie so
            much they even forget what they lied about many times.

            As an aside, the most perversely hilarious aspect of Muslim terrorism is the
            Voldemort affliction that Obama & Clinton suffer from
            with their refusal to use the words Islamic State or
            the acronym IS. Voldemort for non Harry Potter fans was a
            character in the books whose name could not and should not be
            uttered as it was so dastardly and thats exactly the problem that Obama & Clinton
            have over IS (ISIS).

            Perhaps someone should tell them that
            the Arabic word Daesh they use instead, is actually made up of two
            parts, Islam & State and its difficult to judge whether they are
            trying to fool us or just themselves !

          • Marshal Phillips

            More GOP Tea Party Talking Points and name calling. yawn

          • WTF

            Calling someone who lies a liar is the correct description, its not ad hominem attacks that the left enjoy so much.

          • Marshal Phillips

            So you say. yawn

          • greenlantern1

            Ever hear of the Hoover Foundation?
            Herbert Hoover oversaw the Food For Belgium program.
            Margaret Hoover sat on a Belgian “education” panel.
            Payback?

          • WTF

            I’m sorry but your convoluted conspiracy theories hold little interest to me as you’re all over the place. My only premise is that Clinton is a proven serial liar whilst other politicians just embellish facts.

          • greenlantern1

            Serial liar?
            Did Rose Mary Woods ACTUALLY destroy evidence when she erased the Watergate Tapes?
            Conspiracy “theory”?
            Ever hear of Pastor [] Terry Jones?
            He was tried, convicted and sentenced to death for the MURDERS at Benghazi!
            The name, of the video, was THE INNOCENCE OF THE MUSLIMS.
            It was made beforehand.
            The murderers found it very useful.
            Why did he screen it?
            Why did he burn KORANS?
            Why was his e-mail NEVER asked for?

          • greenlantern1

            Was Nixon a liar?
            A crook?
            Is his party?

          • Mr B J Mann

            Are you saying Clinton should be impeached?

          • greenlantern1

            NOPE!!
            Care to name ONE charge?

          • Mr B J Mann

            I think you’ve already covered that with your GOP examples of the kind of things she’s guilty of!

          • greenlantern1

            The differences are that her charges were PROVEN in a court of law!

          • Mr B J Mann

            Yup: she needs impeaching, trying and imprisoning!

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Yes, quick, end democracy!

          • Mr B J Mann

            TrØll 8<—–

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Yes, you are.

          • greenlantern1

            Pastor [?] Terry Jones’s e-mail was NEVER asked for!
            Why?
            Rose Mary Woods ACTUALLY destroyed evidence when she deleted the Watergate Tapes!!
            Remember?

          • Mr B J Mann

            You are saying Clinton should be impeached!

          • greenlantern1

            Who was “in” on the pre-planning?
            Pastor [?] Terry Jones?
            The REPUBLICAN party?

          • greenlantern1

            Who was aware, BEFORE the attack, that it was going to happen?
            The terrorists?
            The Republicans?

          • WTF

            The embassy staff at Benghazi were aware that an attack was highly likely which is why they raised the matter with Clinton and her department to get extra security but to no avail.

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/state-dept-downgraded-security-in-libya-before-deadly-attack-ex-officer-claims/2012/10/10/d7195faa-12e6-11e2-a16b-2c110031514a_story.html

            Obviously the terrorists knew, The Republicans weren’t in a position to know and Clintons state department ignored the warning signs.

          • greenlantern1

            Republicans were not in a position to know?
            Ever hear of Pastor [?] Terry Jones?
            Why was his e-mail NEVER asked for?
            Trump Taj Mahal just paid a $10,000,000 fine!
            It was used, by terrorists, to launder money!
            Doesn’t Trump know what goes on there?
            SOME BUSINESSMAN!!

          • WTF

            Of course I’ve heard of him but as far as I have heard, he’s never killed anyone its just words. Burning books of religious fantasy seems no worse than burning the stars and stripes or any other nations flag and thats a weekly event in Islamic states.

            As for money laundering, many banks have paid fines for this whether deliberate or gross incompetence but will Clinton pay the price for her mistakes, I hardly think so. She’ll receive a get out of jail card for her crimes being protected by the likes of Obama and his AG !

          • greenlantern1

            Killed anyone?
            Ever read about the “accidental” plane crash of Dorothy Hunt?
            Our ONLY, jailed, attorney-general was Nixon’s first, John Mitchell!
            Ever read about Rose Mary Woods?
            She ACTUALLY destroyed evidence when she deleted the Watergate Tapes!
            Did she spend ONE DAY behind bars?
            Angry?

          • WTF

            As I’ve said to that other libtard posting here, if you have proof, provide a URL link substantiating your assertions as I don’t accept personal rants without back up.

          • greenlantern1

            Dorothy Hunt was carrying $10,000, in $100 bills, when the plane crashed!
            Chuck Colson told TIME magazine that he believed that the CIA had Dorothy Hunt murdered.
            Hardly reliable sources.
            John Mitchell’s guilt was established in a court of law!!
            Enough proof?

          • Mr B J Mann

            Aren’t there (real) skeletons in the Clintons’s cupboard too?

            And at least one “unusual” death in Obama’s rise to power (a well as lots of skullduggery)?!

          • greenlantern1

            Ever read about the murders of Ray Kot, Sunil Rattu and Martin Caballero?
            They were murdered at Trump Taj Mahal!
            Ever hear of Pastor [?] Terry Jones?
            Why was his e-mail NEVER asked for?
            Didn’t terrorists, and the Republican party, WANT murders at Benghazi?
            The ONLY first lady, with blood on her hands, is Laura Bush!
            She ran a stop sign and killed Mike Douglas!

          • Mr B J Mann

            Yup:

            You’ve mentioned them a few dozen times already.

            Are you a mindless spambot?

            Yup!

          • greenlantern1

            I will keep right on mentioning them!
            Hitting home?

          • Mr B J Mann

            You’ve convinced me of one thing:

            Your medication needs to be increased:

            Have you ever tried reading your contributions in the cold light of day?!

          • greenlantern1

            YEP!!
            Still the same conclusions!!

          • Mr B J Mann

            8<———–

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Ah, more wild accusations of mental illness to try and stop discussion, Ms. Cold Light.

          • Mr B J Mann

            8<——–

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you point at your whining…

          • greenlantern1

            Terry Jones was tried, convicted, and sentenced to death because of the murders at Benghazi!
            The movie was made before the murders!
            What did Terry Jones know and when did he know it?

          • WTF

            Tried in absentia by an Islamic court which has no jurisdiction over American citizens living in America where freedom of speech is guaranteed. You either jest or you’re mentally retarded !

          • greenlantern1

            “freedom of speech” includes freedom to murder?
            Just angry words were shouted at Benghazi?

          • greenlantern1

            NO JURISDICTION!!
            What happened to YOUR Sharia law??

          • Mr B J Mann

            “Now US has captured what it believes is the mastermind of the Benghazi attack and he is under US imprisonment awaiting trial.”

            Is that Bill, Hill’?!?!?!!!!!

          • greenlantern1

            The name, of the video, is THE INNOCENCE OF THE MUSLIMS!
            Any more “questions”?

          • WTF

            Just one more of the many examples of Islamic terrorist reaction to freedom of speech, it certainly wasn’t the first and wont be the last either.

          • greenlantern1

            Yelling “fire”, in a crowded theater, is “free speech”?

        • Mr B J Mann

          Pack it in, Hill: we know it’s you!

          • Marshal Phillips

            LOL, if I’m “Hill” your the Queen of De Nile.

      • greenlantern1

        Right!
        Which party WANTED bloodshed there?

        • WTF

          Which party abolished slavery in America ? Your turn if you really want to get childish as it wasn’t the Democrats !

          • greenlantern1

            President Lincoln bolted from the REPUBLICAN party!
            He formed the UNION party!
            He chose Andrew Johnson to be his VP!
            The RADICAL REPUBLICANS, their definition, impeached Lincoln’s VP!!

    • Number 6

      She knows how to cheat, lie and slither. Intelligence, yes, but with nefarious intent.

      • WTF

        Most believe her to be intelligent but like a black widow spider enticing its mate before killing him but as you point out, that doesn’t make her trust worthy, consistent or likable. Her policies have flip flopped all over the place just to suit her ends and suck up votes.

        The only amusing thing about her is she reminds me of those nodding dogs you can place on the back shelf of a car. When ever she’s brown nosing supporters, her head nods up and down just like a nodding dog. Thats the clean version and I’ll leave it there !

        • greenlantern1

          Remember Nixon?

          • WTF

            Tricky Dickie, yep he was another lying sc**bag and contrary to the lefts deniers, I’ll be the first to call out any lying sack of s*** no matter what their political persuasions. I don’t have a sycophantic brown nosing view to my ‘natural’ political leanings, if they lie, I call them a liar. Blair or Cameron, Nixon or Clinton, I don’t care what party they belong to, I call it as it is, a bit like Trump !

      • greenlantern1

        The party, of Nixon and Trump, is giving lessons?

      • Sue Smith

        Rat cunning, I’d say.

    • lyndaaquarius

      her record as Sec of State is on display for all to see.Smart ?? no!!

  • Daidragon

    Clinton is basically a politician, warts and all. The GOP candidates are a rag bag of evangelical loonies, conspiracy theorists, narcissists and incompetents.

    • WTF

      With Clinton in power it won’t matter much what you feel about the GOP candidates as Sharia law will be taking a foothold and you’ll be facing east 5 times a day if you value your life !

      • Marshal Phillips

        Mrs Clinton is a devout Methodist. She doesn’t wear a burka or religious headscarf, eats bacon, doesn’t persecute gays/lesbians, drinks alcohol, etc: worst Muslim ever!

        • WTF

          I never said she was a Muslim but you only have to look at parts of Sweden and even the UK to see Sharia law in place despite the main political players not being Muslim. Its liberal policies and politicians prostituting themselves for Muslim votes that will see Sharia law taking over the west and then being applied to non Muslims as well. In countries like the two mentioned above, there is no automatic right to free speech and anti-hate laws protect not only Muslims but now even criticism of Islam is a hate crime.

          Its scary when students at Yale even signed a petition asking for the 1st amendment to be revoked and luckily it was a fake petition, but it demonstrates there are a lot of people out there clueless over what they wish for without understanding the likely consequences.

          https://jlue.wordpress.com/2015/12/17/50-yale-students-sign-petition-to-revoke-1st-amendment/

      • greenlantern1

        Isn’t Clinton a Catholic?

        • WTF

          Why would that stop Sharia law becoming the norm !

          • greenlantern1

            The Supreme Court interprets Constitutional law!
            Witnesses are sworn by the BIBLE!
            PERFECTLY CLEAR??

          • Sue Smith

            If there are votes in it for her she’ll agree to anything – as will any politician.

      • greenlantern1

        Americans obey Constitutional law!!
        What law does the GOP OBEY?

    • MattR

      Seems like the democrats are everything you accuse the GOP of being, PLUS they are liars and economic illiterates.

      • greenlantern1

        Accusing?
        The charges were PROVEN in a court of law!
        Economic illiteracy?
        Remember Herbert Hoover’s GREAT DEPRESSION?
        Nixon’s “revenue sharing”?
        Neil Bush’s SILVERADO bank?
        Cheney’s “Deficits don’t matter?”
        Economic literacy?

    • Sue Smith

      Spot on.

  • WTF

    As a lying duplicitous piece of **** who couldn’t even provide her husband with the basics in a marriage I doubt very much she could do much for the American electorate. At least Trump has shown he can provide jobs.

    • greenlantern1

      Newt Gingrich your hero?
      Provide jobs by 4 bankruptcies?

    • Sue Smith

      This is a frightful comment and as sexist as it’s possible to get. Bill Clinton is a serial philanderer, liar and all round sleaze bag. Hillary was and is simply unable to keep her dog on the porch. If she becomes President what is to be done about Bill? Don’t blame the woman because her husband is a creep.

      Her politics are another matter. I don’t agree with her and for the USA to be powerful and “can do” again will require another kind of leadership altogether – the kind of leadership nobody currently seems to have, unfortunately. Obama is just a preacher man and I don’t think this has served the nation, except to mute the constituency and censor through political correctness. This will, over time, prove disastrous – as it will throughout the democratic world.

      • WTF

        It was Clinton playing the sexist card and she can’t seem to make her mind up whether to portray herself as a frail female or a woman wearing comfortable shoes ready to take on the world. (Hint: Good Morning Vietnam . Robin Williams).

        She lied, covered up and even settled her husbands philandering for her own political ends lets make no mistake about it and her lies don’t just stop at Bill. Trumps ex’s did the right thing and settled with a alimony and it seems there was little acrimony but money alone wouldn’t buy Clinton a way to the white house as she needed that uncontrollable dog who kept straying. Its power she craves, nothing else and Bill was her best chance which is why she never dumped him. Politics makes for strange bedfellows and I mean that in the very real sense.

        http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/10643-paula-jones-on-hillary-clinton-presidency-who-would-want-bill-in-office-philandering-with-women

        • Sue Smith

          It was YOUR comment that she ‘couldn’t provide her husband with the basics’ which gave your sexism away. That has nothing to do with what you’ve subsequently written. I happen to agree with your latter comments, but the these were undermined – and so are your entire arguments – by your gratuitously sexist and inappropriate comments. These told me more about you than either of the Clintons.

          • WTF

            There’s nothing specifically sexist when a spouse strays where the husband or wife doesn’t keep up their end of the ‘marriage contract’. Ask any marriage counselor and they’ll tell you infidelity is a visual demonstration of a fundamental failure in the marriage and I can attest to that personally. I never stated it was lack of conjugal rights that drove Bill away but clearly she failed in some respects just as my 1st wife failed but not in the way you were implying here.

            There’s a multitude of reasons a spouse will look elsewhere for ‘affection’ and some will contend, adultery is more in the mind and doesn’t require the actual deed most commonly thought of. You’re reading more into this than is necessary !

          • Sue Smith

            This doesn’t make any sense. I know what you meant so don’t try and wriggle out of it. You did imply lack of conjugal rights and no amount of back-sliding will cut it. The rest of your comments are more or less rambling.

          • WTF

            You believe what you want to believe like most liberals, I’ll let others be the judge over what I said but we have plenty of records of Clintons past exposing both of their morals in glorious details. Since Trump fought back against her sexist claims against him, last night we saw a ‘pouting’ Hillary almost in tears trying on the victim role once again but it wont work.

            http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/politics/bombshell-audio-hillary-clinton-laughs-at-how-she-got-a-child-rapist-off-how-she-discredited-victim

            http://www.rightgrrl.com/clintonandwomen.html

  • mypersonalopinion

    There are many subjects about which reasonable people may disagree, but Hillary Clinton isn’t one. If you can still defend her in any way, you are too stupid or too partisan and purblind to engage in rational conversation. Her entire life’s work has been to get power, then sell influence to get rich. She’s the lowest of the low, and Benghazi proved it.

    • greenlantern1

      Benghazi?
      Ever hear of Pastor [?] Terry Jones?
      He was tried, convicted and sentenced to death for the murders at Benghazi!
      Why did he burn KORANS?
      Why did he screen the movie, THE INNOCENCE OF THE MUSLIMS?
      Why was his e-mail NEVER asked for?

      • leeann

        Or Ted Cruz?

    • greenlantern1

      Ever heard of Pastor [?] Terry Jones?

  • Number 6

    Mr. Buckley, yes, she REALLY is that bad.

  • seangrainger

    This is the best piece of political commentary this year by a division. I am annoyed I haven’t made myself aware of Mr B but Alistair Cooke didn’t mention him so … More please and don’t give that Justin Webb house room henceforth.

  • Pioneer

    Clinton would be a total catastrophe, not just for the US but also the entire world.

    The only hope is a real Republican president. So many alleged Republicans have sold out, hard to tell which is which.

    • greenlantern1

      Expect a Vladimir Putin comrade to save you?

    • greenlantern1

      Our ONLY, jailed, attorney-general was Nixon’s first, John Mitchell!
      Our ONLY VP, to plea bargain, was Nixon’s first, Spiro Agnew!
      Our ONLY president, to receive a pardon, was Nixon!
      PERFECTLY CLEAR??

  • greenlantern1

    Rose Mary Woods ACTUALLY destroyed evidence with her Watergate Tape gap!
    Remember her?
    Murders happened at the Trump Taj Mahal!
    Ever hear of police officers Alyn Beck and Igor Soldo?
    They were gunned down by Jerad Miller and Amanda Miller!
    Their gang leader was Cliven Bundy!
    Did Trump express any outrage when Rand Paul met with him?

  • Сорокин

    Why no one is suggesting that maybe American political system needs some reforming? For starters they might consider abolishing presidency. Looking at crazy populist clown Trump and sociopath megalomaniac Hillary as the two most likely candidates I don’t think its such a bad idea.

    • Dominic Stockford

      How about replacing it with a world loved monarch?

  • WTF

    Who is the bigger liar, Trump or Clinton ?

    In politics there are three basic forms of lying, some of which are expected and some which are unacceptable, Trump has used a few exaggerations but Clinton has used them all right up to blatant lying.

    There’s lying by minor distortion of the facts to gain some political advantage.

    There’s lying by being economical with the truth by ‘forgetting’ certain facts to misrepresent what you are saying.

    Lastly there’s bald faced lying of the type we’ve become used to from Clinton and the left.

    For example, Trumps very explicit comment to pause allowing non US Muslims from entering country until the visa program was fixed, was lied about by the left using the first two examples. They ‘conveniently’ omitted the two caveats Trump used to give an incorrect impression he was advocating banning all Muslims rather than a temporary ban and only for non US Muslims only. Even now, the left still refuse to accept what he clearly stated in their ‘lying by omission’ to try and race bait the debate.

    Then we have Bernie Saunders using the first option to distort the facts when he boasts that Obamacare spends 3 times as much on health care than the UK and most other western countries. That figure is true but what is missing is what are the health rates between countries. As an
    example, mortality rates for babies is 4% in the UK but 6% in America, one would expect it to be just over 1% based on the money spent. On all types of cancers, there is very little difference between the UK & USA despite the 3 to 1 disparity in healthcare costs. Perhaps the most telling of all are the life expectancy and healthy life expectancy figures where Japan leads the world but the USA is lower than the UK in both life expectancy and healthy life expectancy. These are the sorts of facts and figures Clinton and the left hate as it exposes their blatant lies about Obamacare.

    Its ironic that when Nixon lied over Watergate, Hillary Clinton was on the committee to impeach him and it could be said that when a Republican president lies, he gets impeached but when a Democrat lies, she is put forward as a presidential nominee. As for Bill, technically he didn’t issue a blatant lie about Monica Lewinsky as he ‘lied by distortion’ preferring a BJ over expending any energy himself !

    URL links can be supplied on request to back up these facts for the benefit of Marshall Philips !

    • WTF

      Even more irony over Hillary Clinton lies.

      Last week she claimed Trump was being used in videos as a recruiting tool for IS which so far Clintons team haven’t provided a single video to prove their claim, but wait a minute.

      Bill Clinton is being used in IS videos as a recruitment tool but not for his lazy sexual practices.

      You couldn’t make it up could you !

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3369457/Donald-Trump-isn-t-ISIS-recruitment-videos-fornicator-Bill-Clinton-is.html

      • greenlantern1

        The title, of the video, is THE INNOCENCE OF THE MUSLIMS!
        Ever hear of it?

    • greenlantern1

      Was Nixon a liar?
      Is Trump following the Spiro Agnew mold?

      • rationality

        Nixon was thrown under the bus for criticising er some people. The JFK method was getting a bit tired after RK and MLK so the media was used to destroy Nixon’s presidency.

        • greenlantern1

          Criticism?
          A newspaper editor assigned E. Howard Hunt to a grassy knoll at Dealey Plaza?
          A newspaper editor assigned him to the Bay of Pigs?
          A newspaper editor ordered the salting of Ray Bremer’s apartment?
          A newspaper editor ordered the Watergate break-in?
          A newspaper editor PLANNED the “accidental” plane crash of Dorothy Hunt?
          INOPERATIVE!!

  • Henry Filth

    I think the dear old Americans will get who they vote for.

    It’s called “democracy”. They’ve been doing it for hundreds of years.

    I think it’s great.

    • rationality

      Even former President Carter said recently America was a plutocracy. Anyone who thinks that America has real ‘democracy’ is either deluded or extremely gullible.

      • Henry Filth

        Sorry old chap, in a plutocracy, you don’t get to vote for the plutocrats.

        They’ll get who they vote for, and isn’t it great that they have such a wide choice.

        • rationality

          Its a plutocracy in the guise of a democracy. The controlled media herds public opinion to the ‘right’ decision.

          • Henry Filth

            Plutocrat, democrat, Democrat, Republican, whichever.

            The winner will be the one with the most votes.

            That’s all.

            Please try to stay on message.

          • Tony R.

            Wrong. The winner will be the one who can rig the voting machines best. You don’t seem to know much about the situation in the United States.

          • Henry Filth

            Pray continue. . .

  • john lord

    Trump is unelectable, so it looks like Hillary, which means Hill and Bill, buy one get one free. They are both hard headed pragmatists, with none of that ‘vision thing’ and American foreign policy really needs much less idealism and much more cynicism. So they can at least play the Russians and Chinese at there own game for a change.

    • artihrig

      Donald Trump’s deuce of Trumps will Trump Hillary’s Ace. Trump will do a great job exposing Hillary for the liar and fraud that she is.

      • Marvin

        Things are changing. Things better change. Armageddon is looming and the cancer is breeding like bacteria does, doubles itself. The tumour must be cut out, and the “Status Quo” do not have the guts. So we need a Trump/Adolf
        to do what Canute couldn’t.

    • WTF

      The the choice is a serial liar who has attacked her own gender along with her husband whose too lazy to even get it up with his intern or someone whose brash but at least tells it as it is. Other than sycophantic supporters of HRC I think I know who most voters would go for.

    • Caractacus

      Why is Trump unelectable?

      Hilary is a serial liar who likes to dupe people. Trump says unpalatable things, but he says them with honesty.

    • rationality

      So how do you feel about Hilary’s Libya escapade when she was Secretary of State? Remember how they were supposed to be exporting ‘freedom and liberty’ and look at the results four years on. Libya was a prosperous country, stemming the immigration flow due to the deal with Berlusconi and the people were safe. Now ISIS affiliates run much of the country and the rest is in anarchy and Europe has the immigration plague to deal with. She should be behind bars for that screw up.

  • Charles Lufkin

    I like Trump much better on immigration,Putin and trade.

  • davidblameron

    Mrs Rodham Clinton or Mr Trump fill me with dread (check out Hilary Clinton’s record on the Benghazi ‘incident’ when she was Secretary of State in the first Obama term). Would the US voters do it to the world? Yes, they probably might.

    • rationality

      Yes they would. As long as they are getting their freebies from the state and addressing ‘white privelige’ they will turn a blind eye to insane murderous foreign policy.

  • Sue Smith

    Brilliant little essay!!! And I love the neat aside about Obama and his “hauteur”. Nice fit. He’s such an awful man.

    • sidor

      A man who is a product of THE culture of political correctness isn’t a man: a politically correct transgender.

  • Marvin

    With the shower of dung we have as world leaders in Britain, Europe and US, the time has come for a total change of attitude to us
    at the bottom looking up to the “Elite Established Morons” as intelligent articulate and narcissistic believers that are bred to rule. We now need to type of people who see reality from a ground view where we see things from and stop tolerating this cancerous sandstorm that is growing like bacteria and engulfing the civilised western world. We need TRUMP!

    • Tony R.

      We, The People, are the ones on the bottom rung.

  • rationality

    Hilary Clinton as president will be a disaster not just for the US but the world. Like Bush and Obama she will be a puppet for the elites so expect more immigration, more Marxism, more crony capitalism and less freedom. A complete liar, more dynastic family rule and utterly corrupt. That’s why she will become POTUS.

    Hilary for Prison 2016 (if there’s any justice)

    • sidor

      Don’t insult Marx. She is as much a Marxist as Hitler was. Or as ISIS which she promoted in the ME.

      • rationality

        I will insult Marx. A disgusting man with a disgusting ideology that should have ended after the end of the Soviet era.

        By promoting identity politics and perceived grievances against gays, women and immigrants she is continuing with the creation of the prolitereat class. As this divide and conquer strategy implemented across Europe by the elites gathers steam they attack the bourgoeoisie, the middle class, men and whites to take over. Marx decreed that the proliteriat will smash the bourgeoisie to create a communist utopia with the elites at top. Similar to the Bolshevik revolution really but with crony capitalism and coming our way.

        • sidor

          I don’t think you know much about Marx and his theory. He was a political economist writing about capitalism, not about socialism. And he was the first who introduced the term capitalism in the economic theory. That means that anyone discussing capitalism is a Marxist.

        • sidor

          The Soviet era didn’t have much to do with Marx. Marxism is not an ideology, it is a theory in political economy still used by the economists. Or maybe you believe in the entertaining fable about “invisible hand of the Market” by Adam Smith?

          • rationality

            Look at who was backing Marx. Look at who was backing and who were the Bolsheviks. Look who is espousing One World Government now. Marxism is a secular means for keeping the likes of us in our place, enslaved to the elites.

            I dont really trust or respect any economic theory right now considering the role of central banks printing money out of thin air. Those theories seem so redundant. Smith less so of course

          • sidor

            You have no idea of what is the economic theory of Marx and write (irrational) rubbish. Avoid discussing anything beyond the scope of your education.

          • rationality

            I love the way people attempt to show their supposed intelligence when in reality they flaunt their ignorance. Marxism was and is a social structure. The economics were a waste of time as proved by the Soviet era. Do not ever patronise me again.

          • sidor

            You are quite right about economics. But it didn’t exist in the Soviet Union. Its uselessness was demonstrated in the US in 2008: no single Nobel laureate was able to predict the crisis.

            Concerning your compulsive references to Marxism: it would be equally interesting to hear your opinion on the classical Chinese philosophy.

          • rationality

            Apologies for my forthrightness. Marxism did exist economically in the Soviet era at its most basic level but needed five year plans to keep it kicking. Thats why its only really the social structure thats important and relevant as we see a form of neo-Marxism exist today where owning a property is unrealistic and we pay the elites (as the landlord class shrinks over time) for our housing. 2008s idiots were unable to predict the crisis as they were either in on it, really were ignorant or had to much to lose.

            I do not know much about classical Chinese philiosophy as it has little historical effect on my life. Marxism is a threat to humanity.

          • sidor

            To learn about the impact of the Chinese classical philosophy on your life look at where your computer, phone and underpants were produced. Report the results.

            Thanks for you entertaining opinion on the Soviet economy. Was it your first-hand experience?

          • rationality

            I just like to keep myself informed about dystopian societies. I was just looking at a photo of myself in Tiannimen Square learning about this sort of thing.

            Regarding the threat of Marxism George Orwell is our friend.

          • sidor

            What about your underpants? Are they Marxist made in China?

          • rationality

            Well done for becoming the new Leon Wolfeson.

      • mdj
        • sidor

          Rubbish.

          First, nobody knows what they mean when talking about socialism. At least it is not what Marxism is about: Marx’ theory, as a part of political economy, is about capitalism. He introduced that term. Therefore, anyone discussing capitalism is a Marxist.

          Second, a detailed theory of rigid state regulation of the economy was proposed 2500 years ago by Shang Yang. He also gave a detailed theory of a police state based on a strict system of laws and severe punishments. Shall we call him a Marxist, and the empire of Qin a socialist state?

          • mdj

            ‘.. nobody knows what they mean when talking about socialism..’

            So presumably somewhere out there is a supreme arbiter who can say who is, or is not, a socialist.
            Might that possibly be your good self?

            Whenever someone blows himself up or slaughters a bunch of innocents we are rapidly told that it’s nothing to do with Islam, even though the perpetrator mistakenly proclaimed that it was.
            We seem to be in the same territory here.

          • sidor

            You didn’t seem to get it. Let me explain it again. Consider the following statement of the goal of the government’s economic policy: “The purpose of the government’s regulation is to make rich poor and poor rich”. Do you think it is a socialist government?

          • mdj

            Since, like everyone apart from your good self apparently , I don’t know what I mean when talking about socialism, why would you care what I think?

          • sidor

            I don’t know either. And I always avoid using words the meaning of which is beyond my comprehension. It would be wise of you to do the same. A purely altruistic advice.

          • sidor

            Are you sure you know what exactly you were going to say?

          • andyrwebman

            “. Therefore, anyone discussing capitalism is a Marxist.”

            What – anyone? Someone who believes it is awful vs someone who thinks it is the best thing since sliced bread – BOTH are Marxists?

            If that’s true, the term means nothing.

      • hobspawn

         “Don’t insult Marx.”

        Possibly the most disgusting thing I have ever read anywhere. Hundreds of millions are turning in their pit mass graves.

        • sidor

          Relevance?

    • ohforheavensake

      And this is an entirely stupid post.

      • rationality

        Its not if you read a variety of media outlets. If youre just reading the MSM then yes it will appear stupid because their very nature is too keep you ignorant and dumbed down so you are unaware of whats really going on. Looks like its working;

        • edwinduthie

          As a Canadian looking in from the outside, I find it creepy how most of the American media acts as the house organ for the Democrats. It’s equally astounding how so many right-thinking establishmentarians don’t realize that.

    • Jason Caternolo

      And if Trump is president, the US will probably be nothing more than a crater in the ground within 1-2 years of him running his fat mouth.

  • Picquet

    It’s genuinely astonishing, that such a great country, stuffed to the eyebrows with talent, leadership, intellect and can-do can’t come up with anything better than this dross. Trump v Clinton. Dear god.

    PS. Whatever became of Condi Rice?

    • davidofkent

      Well, they elected Obama – twice.

      • davidblameron

        and GW Bush, clearly no decent person wants the job, probably only attention seekers.

      • ohforheavensake

        And he’s been a very good president.

        • Sue Smith

          A total flag-bearer for political correctness; that’s about all.

        • svetlana kuznetsov

          WAAAAAAAAAAA HA HA

    • Pierre NyGaard

      She’s back in academia last I checked, as well as serving on the board of people who vote on which college football teams make it into the college football playoff.

      Not that she’d be able to gain any traction if she were to run, in case that’s what you were wondering. Only person who came out of the Bush administration remotely clean was Colin Powell.

    • svetlana kuznetsov

      Cameron of course is so superior… right.

      • Picquet

        If you say so, dear.

    • Jason Caternolo

      I lost faith in my country, my people must love to be abused. I have pleaded with people I know to not support Trump, they will still support him :/

  • R Fairless

    If you want to know anything about Bill or Hillary Clinton I suggest you have a look on U Tube for the comments of the late Christopher Hitchens. He was very knowledgable about the American political scene and the characters and escapades of the Clintons. Christopher knew Bill Clinton as long ago as when they were both students at the same University in England. Hitchens would have been indicted for slander if any of his allegations about the Clintons had been untrue. Therein is the test of his veracity.

    • davidblameron

      yet C. Hitchens is a paradox surely – supporting the GW Bush led invasion of a sovereign nation namely Iraq.

      • R Fairless

        I couldn’t understand Hitchen’s support for the Iraq war until I read his autobiography, “Hitch 22”. He had a good knowledge of the country and its politics and I think he concluded that Sadam Hussian was so horrendously homicidal that he had to be deposed.

        • davidblameron

          Oh I see we (us, the Americans or both together) just go into any country being made a hellhole by it’s leaders and depose them do we? Well the Americans let Galtieri rule for long enough and murder thousands of his own people but of course it suited them to let him stay in power, he was stopping the communists seizing power ; Batista in Cuba, Marcos in the Phillipines. Why pick on Saddam? Of course he had loads of oil, I’d say.

          • R Fairless

            The US had supported Sadam in his war against Iran but later he overstepped the mark in his military adventures and his extermination attempts on the Kurds. Of course oil was at the heart of the American interest and to the present day is what motivates the conflict.

          • edwinduthie

            If oil was really at the heart of the matter, they would have just cut sweetheart deals with Saddam. It’s far easier to payoff a dictator for access and security than to be responsible for the infrastructure of a country, and possibly have to fight an insurgency, yourself.

            Everyone tries to view every Western conflict in oil rich countries through Operation Boot, the British/American sponsored 1953 Iranian coup d’état. But that was a one-off event, that would be impossible to replicate even if they wanted to, and not the paradigm for all subsequent conflicts.

  • davidblameron

    By next November both of them will be 70 or very nearly, normal people are getting tired by then.

  • ohforheavensake

    She’s going to win, Christopher. Get used to it.

    • Cobbett

      She couldn’t win an egg and spoon race…vile women that she is

      • Bruce Darling

        I’m sure she could win a liars’ contest.

        • Cobbett

          I’d rather be known as a ‘Egg and spoon’ champion myself.

    • CortexUK

      Just as soon as everyone whining about it shuts up and gets used to the fact that the Conservatives won the General Election.

    • smith

      No. Cruz will win. And you will get used to it.

    • andyrwebman

      This sort of statement is daft. A week is a long time in politics, and there’s many a week before the election.

    • Tony R.

      If she does win, she may be the first President of the United States to serve in office from behind prison bars.

    • Jake

      If Hillary wins, I will kill myself….

      • svetlana kuznetsov

        Can we jump together?

    • Victor Lynn Avera

      Forget it, the Hillary has too much damaging history to expose who she truly is, she will never make it pass November, the nation will turn on her and finish her once and for all.
      They should have waited for a more honest person with a backbone, they should have waited for Elizabeth Warren to run, now they will set everything back till Elizabeth Warren to be ready. Maybe we will get lucky and she will run a Bernie Sanders VP running mate, she definably not be running as Hillary’s.

  • Cobbett

    Trump is very popular at the moment…if you despise him, you must equally despise the people who like him…which i’m sure you do.

  • CortexUK

    STOP CAMERON spending British taxpayers’ money on Pro-EU Referendum leaflets

    Prime Minister David Cameron plans to spend British taxpayers’ money on a pro-EU document to be sent to every household in the United Kingdom in the run up to the EU referendum. We believe voters deserve a fair referendum – without taxpayer-funded biased interceptions by the Government.

    Sign this petition…

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/116762

  • WTF

    Its curious that I signed up to the ABC news website but after one post highlighting Clintons history, I was banned. Clearly their moderator doesn’t like inconvenient facts upsetting their liberal agenda but its censorship just as bad as communist Russia was. Even China seems more open than the liberal media in the UK & USA with their legions of brain dead moderators blocking fair debate.

    Its a shame really as several people were engaging in debate on their web site with me but they’re denied it as I can’t reply to the several comments they’ve posted. Discus isn’t the problem its ABC news that censors free speech !

  • Hilary Clinton

    “Does that include the women who say they were groped by your husband, and the one who says she was raped?” One? The figure is probably closer to 20 from what I know (with the first know accusation dating back to 198, while Bill was at Oxford, hence why he left). Let’s not forget this either –

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEJQf0DDZxc

  • Tony R.

    Christopher Buckley and The Spectator must be out of their minds publishing a story like this about a woman who may soon be indicted for criminal offences. If, as a result of the ongoing investigation over her deliberate mishandling of secret government emails, she is indicted while running as a candidate for the presidency of the United States, that will be first in the country’s history. It may already be a first that a candidate for that high office is under criminal investigation.

  • Jake

    personally I think Hillary Clinton would be a terrible president, if she won’t be completely honest with the U.S. then what good would she be? At least Donald Trump tells the truth about everything…..whether its offensive or not.

    • Mark Salcedo

      Do you honestly think Donald Trump would be a better candidate then Clinton?
      Just his mannerisms and what you admire whether he’s offensive or not is A HUGE deal in who is going to the man who represents our great country. Watch Mitt Romney’s attack on Trump today and I hope to God you think about changing your vote for another Republican nominee. It’s not that the other nominees seem weaker, it’s that they are more respectful and more mindful for others. It only takes Trump to start insulting blatantly, (like he always does) to Iranians, Muslims, and the South Koreans and we all jump into WWIII. Do your research and think about it long and hard. How does an image of Trump as president relate to our past great presidents? They don’t. Trump is a little kid with a temper.

    • EJ

      Your truth is not my truth.

  • Victor Lynn Avera

    The Hillary is not going to win and neither is the Trump.
    We will have Bernie Sanders as President, hopefully we will have Elizabeth Warren along with him.
    Please don’t be saying that you will kill yourselves if Hillary get elected, that is very inappropriate useless thing to say, have more faith in the people.
    If you are like me, spend time exposing the Hillary for what she is, there is a lot of history on the internet to draw from to expose a evolving flip-flopper like her, she is very criminal in all the things she has done, the people will get tire of it and then they will abandon her like a vicious dog she has become, then as they do, she will start to show hers true nature. This will bury her forever.

    • Jason Caternolo

      I lost faith in the people when Obama got elected. Then again, I was one of the fools who voted for him.

  • desket405

    pick trump if it is shilary vs trump at least trump will shake the system

  • Wade

    Bernie Sanders is not in any way a Marxist. Gods, with this level of high-octane, straw man rhetoric, the author must be related to that dead fascist ass-wipe, William F. Buckley.

  • inabubble

    NONE of us REALLY KNOW these candidates. It seems to be Mostly about Money and Power anymore. Wikipedia is helpful. It’s like a resume on each candidate. No Big Backers Talking us into something. Just real information and OUR OWN GUT FEELINGS.

  • Jeffries’s’s

    Bernie… lol. Hillary… lol. Trump… 45th President of the United States.

  • KNOWAK

    Yes she can, and then some!

  • Tuff B. Philouza

    Far… far worse. Trump is not responsible for the deaths in Honduras, Iraq and other countries. From a humanist perspective, Trump is better based on this alone.

  • John Stanton

    Is it just me, or is the author way to enamored with himself? Oh what a clever fellow … and he makes damn sure you know. Puke.

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