Mary Wakefield

Eritrean migrants face many dangers. Are we one of them?

6 June 2015

9:00 AM

6 June 2015

9:00 AM

A few weeks ago someone very dear to me passed on a question about The Spectator, asked them by a friend. The friend, who I know and like, had read Douglas Murray’s recent report from Lampedusa about the poor Med-faring migrants, and her question was this: ‘Is everyone at The Spectator a racist?’

Some insults brush past without leaving a mark, others pierce the skin and sink in. This one sunk like a splinter, and like a splinter I’ve been worrying away at it ever since, turning what was a small injury into a painful, bloody mess. I can dismiss the accusation easily enough — the Spectator office is multi-racial, the magazine’s editorial line consistently pro-immigration. It’s the questioner who haunts me. This is a clever woman, Oxbridge–educated, who must have known her comment would get back to me. ‘Racist’ is, she’d agree, the A-bomb of insults — yet she felt quite comfortable hurling it at the entire Spec. She worries me particularly because I hear in her the voice of so many of my generation: left-leaning, urban, socially concerned but closed to discussion. It’s a gang who often conflate ‘right-wing’ with ‘racist’ in conversation; for whom even asking questions about immigration is now taboo.

So what was Douglas’s particular sin? I went back to his article and read it twice. Douglas goes to Lampedusa. Douglas meets some migrants and makes the point that they’re Eritreans for the most part, not Libyans. I found only one conceivably provocative paragraph in which he says it’s difficult to sort the legitimate asylum seekers from the fake ones, and points out that for a migrant, life after asylum can prove tough.

Can this really be the objectionable part? I feel like Paxman on University Challenge: Oh, come on, Cambridge! It’s just not enough to repost worthy stories on Facebook. That’s no substitute for thought. If we care, we must ask questions about life after asylum.

As it happens, in the strange way of things, after re-reading Douglas I met four migrants from Eritrea in a church in Soho, three women and a young man, and I spent the evening talking about their situation.


I had thought there was an ongoing war with Ethiopia, and that was the reason Eritreans fled. More fool me. Isaias Afwerki, the paranoid president, keeps his country on a permanent war footing, but it’s not to fight so much as to stifle dissent. Teenagers are conscripted into the army after school, then spend pointless decades performing military drills or building houses for Afwerki’s cronies. Education is pitiful and many students drop out; why bother to study when you’ve a life of drudgery ahead? Deserters are imprisoned or killed — sometimes left in shipping containers where they boil to death. Short of North Korea or an Isis slave cave, there’s no more hopeless place on earth.

So shouldn’t we make it clear to Eritreans that they’re welcome, all of them? Isn’t the outraged ‘friend’ right to brook no quibbling in this case? My Eritrean pals were unsure.

Fleeing Eritrea is a terrible business. All routes out are deadly. An attempt to escape by boat to Europe means braving both lynch mobs in Libya and the possibility of capsizing in the Med. Crossing the Sinai Peninsula and making for Israel is just as lethal. There are gangs of tribesmen looking for hostages, and Egypt seems keen on torturing any Eritreans its army finds. Kidnapped by Bedouin, tortured by Egyptians, drowned by Libyans. That, friend, is real racism.

Even if and after you’ve made it to Europe, refugee life is grim. Just last Monday, hundreds of Sudanese and Eritrean migrants began a tit-for-tat bust-up at a camp in Calais. More than 20 people were wounded before riot police intervened. Incidentally, the mayor of Calais, Natacha Bouchart, blames Britain for this. We’re too attractive to asylum seekers, she says, our benefits too lavish. Migrants risk their lives to get here. What, I wonder, would a Facebook warrior make of that?

Better, then, to improve Eritrea than to import it. But how? Were we the sort who asked no questions, we could cheer on the European plan to send more aid. In April the EU approved a €122 million aid package for Eritrea. I asked my Eritrean companions: is this a good thing? They shook their heads. President Afwerki will steal the money, they said. He’ll build more prisons and strengthen his position. He must go. He must not get more money.

There’s certainly no way of telling what Afwerki will do with the dosh. Asmara’s about as transparent as Pyongyang. NGOs are banned, all private press shut down. No matter, says the EU. It’s all about staying engaged, keeping the lines open — which makes a sort of sense until you look at how ‘engagement’ has worked out so far. There’s been years of aid to Eritrea, but the more we ‘engage’, the faster the population decamps. In 2014 the number of asylum seekers to Europe from Eritrea tripled. Nearly 5 per cent of the Eritrean population has now fled.

To Douglas’s last point, the one that I suspect provoked the cry of racism. He says migrants ‘may be more protected, free and safe than they were at home, but their future can hardly be said to be bright’. That’s uncomfortable, but often true. The Eritreans I met were in limbo, waiting for housing, sleeping in churches and synagogues. One girl in her twenties was at her wits’ end. It’s exhausting not having a home, she said, and she was struggling to learn English. Tigrinya is a lovely language but utterly different from ours. As a schoolgirl she had wanted to be a biologist. Now she hoped to become a cleaner.

That splinter hurts less, but I still feel it needling away. Moral indignation rushes in to fill the gap between what you feel and what you can justify, and I quite see that this accounts not just for my friend’s righteous rage but also my own ongoing angst. Still. If there’s a pitiful lack of clear answers, it at least seems vital to consider not just the short-term good of offering asylum, but the long-term effects too. That’s not racist. It’s our moral duty.

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  • Rik

    The cheapest commodity on this planet is human life,100’s of millions live life in terror,poverty and misery.The times throughout history where a people could be sure they would not have their roofs burnt over their heads,their crops stolen and their children enslaved are rare islands of civilisation in a sea of time.
    Our memories are so short it is only 80 years since those nightmares swept across Europe and nearly engulfed us,it took a desperate brutal fight for survival to save ourselves.
    I am not a monster, of course i have compassion for the victims of war and poverty but i am heartily sick of the virtue signalling idiots who do not understand we must protect ourselves first.
    Me,Mine,Then the rest of the World

    • Shazza

      You are certainly not a racist nor a monster, you are a realist.

      What our Western leaders need to accept is that if you continue to import large swathes of people from backward third world countries into first world secular Western countries, in no time you will have transformed the first world countries into third world, backward theocracies/dictatorships.

      There will no longer be ‘rare islands of civilisation’ only a return to ignorance and the demise of scientific progress.

      • Patricia

        “What our Western leaders need to accept is that if you continue to import large swathes of people from backward third world countries into first world secular Western countries, in no time you will have transformed the first world countries into third world, backward theocracies/dictatorships.”

        Exactly, we shall have to adapt to suit them as we are slowly doing with aspects of Sharia law, hosting “honour” killings and paying doctors who practice FGM.

        • Berhane Habtemariam

          Dear Mary Wakefield, I am an Eritrean Citizen and I know Eritrea very well. I wonder about your Ignorant and baseless comment on Eritrea and its government calling it as “North Korea” or “paranoid president”. shame on you! You even do not know about Eritrea, if Eritrea is still at war with the tribal Ethiopian regime or not. The Eritrean teenagers who fled Eritrea willingly to the “paradise Europe” to live in “luxury” (of course in their imagination)-to find out the reality later being homeless, and penniless in European cities or if they are lucky to clean your base room and toilets. You ask them probably why they fled and their answer was certainly because of this borring repitation by everyone “military conscription”. They will never tell you the truth, because if they do, they will never allow staying in European countries. The reason they fled is just economy-they want to improve their life period.

          Short facts on Eritrea.

          1. Eritrea is a most peaceful nation in Africa, even I would
          say in the world in this era of “terrorism”.

          2. Every nation is the right to execute national service as it fits. Eritrea is not an exception

          3. Eritrea has one of the only countries which have introduced free education from grade one to higher collages for all of its Eritrean Citizens.

          4. Free and fair Health System

          5. Rea Independent political and economic decision……..

          Dear Mary Wakefield ,Please visit Eritrea and check it out from the real ground in eritrea not from your comfort in your country.

          • Mela

            @berhanehabtemariam:disqus :’ borring repitation by everyone “military conscription”‘, so you are bored of hearing the words – while they are tired to living it. Ashamed of citizens like you – who choose not to see the truth.

          • Ipsidixit

            Dear Berhane, glad your internet connection there in Eritrea enables you to participate in this discussion. You are writing from your own country aren’t you?

          • MathMan

            If Eritrea is so wonderful, why are it’s citizens so desperate to leave?

          • Marcussmod

            English money!

          • Bertie

            Berhane Habtemariamis clearly either a troll or a paid stooge of the paranoid El Presidente, Isaias Afwerki,

      • Verbatim

        Too late, I’m afraid. It’s end game already.

        • Shazza

          Sadly I have to agree with you.

      • Marcussmod

        The transformation process is well under way in most towns and cities in England. Even up here in the provincial job starved NE , streets in many towns now resemble a third world back water. Why and how these people end up here is no mystery. It is all part of a deliberate people replacement process instigated by the EU and our political elites.

        Western Europe is doomed!

    • Verbatim

      Bravo x 1000 times. YOU GET IT, they don’t.

  • Shelly

    Why do so many trek through Europe to get here though ? France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, all safe places, and I know that those countries must take their fair share of asylum seekers/economic migrants, but still so many of them gather at Calais waiting to get across the channel.
    There must be a misconception that Britain is the land of milk and honey, and we know that isn’t true because the far left tell us we are struggling with austerity and the health service is in danger of going under at any moment. Its not racist to be concerned by what’s happening and really, using the racist insult in order to stifle debate is not a viable option when people are putting their lives in danger to make it here.

    • Verbatim

      THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE is the reason.

  • Eastsix

    Let’s be clear, current UK case law and home office policy in short is that anyone who has (to the lower standard of proof) left Eritrea illegally should be granted refugee status. Given that it is nigh on impossible to leave Eritrea with governments consent if you are approaching or of draft age ( anything from teenage up to about 50), then basically all Eritreans are granted refugee status. On that basis, Eritreans aren’t ‘migrants’ when they leave Eritrea, they are genuine Asylum seekers as recognised by British law. Having said that, they should be seeking refuge in the first safe place they come to! If they get t the UK though, I don’t see how they end up sleeping in churches and synagogues- they can claim support and accomodation as soon as they claim asylum.

    • Gilbert White

      The Italians offrered them proper bread and coffee but the said africa for Africans!

    • mohdanga

      And yet they travel 5,000 miles to get to the UK when there are all sorts of more culturally similar countries right next door to them. Hmmmm.

      • Verbatim

        They are looking for NHS and the English Language. Plus UK is full of their own kind.

  • Charles

    Wakefield sounds like a “caring” bleeding heart,who is too concerned with those who throw out “racist” charges against anyone who doesn’t share their pc,”enlightened” views on race(at the Spectator we are all good little multicults and toe the orthodox line on immigration).Britain(or Europe) can’t be a dumping ground for millions of low educated,low skilled,third worlders.Mary,you might be more concerned with the effects of importing lots of cheap labor on the BRITISH citizenry.It would be nice if the Spectator were less “pro-immigration”).

    • Verbatim

      It’s called “virtue signalling”. I think that’s just a brilliant expression!

  • Bonkim

    Buyer Beware!

  • Hippograd

    So shouldn’t we make it clear to Eritreans that they’re welcome, all of them?

    Of course! Because the more Eritreans we have in the UK, the more they’ll be able to reproduce the vibrant culture of their homeland and teach stale pale males like Mary Wakefield not to be racist. Remember that the MacPherson report taught us that a racist incident is one perceived to be so by any observer.

    • Verbatim

      And they would, presumably, have no interest whatsoever in the Tate Gallery, Buckingham Palace, the Albert Hall. Well, you get it.

    • Jim Station

      At what stage are we going to apply the brakes to this mass immigration? No country is duty bound under any laws moral or international to accept all comers. Our leaders – of Europe and the UK are truly allowing a Trojan Horse in, welcoming it in the deluded spirit and expectation that the people coming here are going to integrate happily with us and respect our own values and beliefs. A truly historic tragedy.

      • Hippograd

        welcoming it in the deluded spirit and expectation…

        I don’t think they’re deluded. many of the people who welcome mass immigration into Europe and the US are also firm supporters of Israel, which greets vibrant blacks and Muslims with huge fences and lots of barbed wire. See T. Blair, for one particularly egregious example. Israel knows that mass immigration by outsiders destroys a nation. It’s not difficult to understand. This is Peter Hitchens:

        When I was a Revolutionary Marxist, we were all in favour of as much immigration as possible. It wasn’t because we liked immigrants, but because we didn’t like Britain. We saw immigrants – from anywhere – as allies against the staid, settled, conservative society that our country still was at the end of the Sixties. Peter Hitchens on the motives behind support for mass immigration

      • E.I.Cronin

        When the public stops returning Conservative or Liberal Governments that favour indiscriminate immigration – which is to say never.

        Bipartisan support ensures that mass immigration is irreversible. It’s like being given a choice as to which bullet you want to get shot by. And people will complain about it endlessly but will not make Immigration a vote determining issue. Or at least not in Australia.

    • Marcussmod

      Let them all come for a ‘better life’ who will take the first million?

  • Ossettian

    I don’t care a jot about sub-Saharan Africans.

    I care about the English, then about Europeans.

    • Verbatim

      Same.

      • Marcussmod

        Same here.

  • Ipsidixit

    What’s wrong with being called a racist by a metro liberal?

    • Verbatim

      Yeah, it’s a compliment and a metaphor for “we get it, they don’t”.

  • Ipsidixit

    Polish lorry drivers arrested for smuggling illegal immigrants into England. Had they been Afros or Asians, their race would not have been mentioned. Having said that, given that people smuggling connives in slavery, the penalty for these Polish smugglers ought to be life.

    • cartimandua

      The EU just keeps on giving. Polish are the largest group of foreign prisoners in our jails.

      • Verbatim

        Where do you get those stats? Source please.

        • cartimandua

          Government website

          Its a PDF so wont post.

          Its also on various media sites like the Telegraph and the Daily Mail.
          Look it up on any source you trust.
          It goes Poland , Ireland, and then Jamaica
          Also in the top ten are Pakistan Lithuania and Nigeria.
          Is any of it a surprise to you really?

          • LittleRedRidingHood

            1 in 8 of the prison population is a foreign national. I can see austerity savings already.

          • Verbatim

            OK, so one would generally expect the largest jail population to reflect the largest social/ethnic group. If not, then it suggests a large number of unskilled people who can only find a living through crime are coming to the UK. Now, there’s a surprise – an increase in crime from the importation of large numbers of unskilled people. Watch this space.

  • cartimandua

    A solution would be to return them home or near to it with a start up new business bung.

  • scampy

    Africa is third world hell hole and always will be run by blacks?
    Why do you think they rsk life and limb trying to reach civilization?
    Breeding like dogs ain’t gonna help?

    • Verbatim

      This is an inappropriate comment. “Blacks” aren’t the only people who ‘breed like dogs”. It wasn’t so long ago that I recall Catholic families in the western world had 9 or 10 children. Even now the Pope says “don’t take the Pill”.

  • evad666

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-33034823 we are really blessed that our politicians and civil servants are so keen to culturally enrich us.

  • Richard

    It’s very simple. In my childhood in Africa, there was the racist cry, “Africa for the Africans!” which was applauded by the Africans, and the Left in Europe. So they got their wish by-and-large, destroyed their countries, and now run to Europe crying, “Racist! Racist!” And Europe nods and gives them houses and money and says how wonderful and brave they are.

    What a bunch of morons Europeans are. Too stupid to survive.

    • Verbatim

      The most significant problem Europe and the UK has is total weakness. It’s the modern day equivalent of “peace in our time” and just about as fruitful.

    • Verbatim

      They won’t survive, of course, but you and I will be dead and buried and won’t have the worry of it. The younger generation will continue to caress their phones.

      • Richard

        I wonder where the innovation will come from to think up ways to feed the huge Third World population, to find cures for the diseases that will inevitably ravage their number, or simply to preserve the notion of trying to understand and make sense of things? We will decline to about the level of latter-day Egypt or Libya, so very little will be possible from Europe. Can China take up the burden? And how long before they succumb to the poisonous Leftism that has destroyed us? Perhaps we really will retreat back to the African jungle, after a most massive cull in the population. The wars and disease and starvation will be truly awful, as the Third World invades and triumphs. As you say, we will likely be dead and buried, if we are very lucky, by the time this hits. It will be like what happened to the Neanderthals, our part-ancestors, but unimaginably worse. Who could have dreamt that Europeans would turn out to be the weakest, most craven, and most moronic race on the planet, after all their achievements? It’s hard to make sense of it all.

  • Paul B

    I am pleased to be a The Spectator reader. But here, in the comments to the articles and the blogs one certainly does come across opinion which is more readily identifiable as racist than one does at The Guardian or at Sp!ked Online, each of which I also read. So whereas the answer to the question “Is everybody at The Spectator a racist?” is assuredly “no”, a differently asked question might be answered “yes”.

    Is there a disproportionate number of racists reading The Spectator?

    Why is that?

    • Verbatim

      Africa for Africans. That’s the reason.

      • Paul B

        Perhaps you’re being deliberately ironic but, failing that, you’re an example of which I speak.

        • mohdanga

          How is it ‘racist’ to not want your country subsumed by unassimilateable 3rd worlders? If European colonialism was the worst thing that ever happened then reverse colonialism should be the same, no?

          • Paul B

            You are not denying your racism, you explain it.

          • Damaris Tighe

            No, you have to explain why what mohdanga said is racism. My idea of racism is the belief that particular races are inherently biologically inferior. You may not agree with what mohdanga said, but there is nothing in it that is racist.

          • Paul B

            Or that people should be discriminated against on the basis of their race.

          • Damaris Tighe

            In his first sentence he is simply talking about a country’s immigration policy & it’s surely logical to want to choose the most culturally assimilable. In his second sentence he is simply applying to the west the anti-colonialist argument that was applied to Africa & Asia.

          • Paul B

            Verbatim replied to a question I asked. He answered my question. Why are there racists here? Because the incomers they’re African, he said.

            You explain away, but he did not contradict me.

          • Damaris Tighe

            Now you’re repeating yourself by making the assertion of racism again. Verbatim may or may not be a racist – I don’t know whether her objection is racial or cultural. In connection with mohdanga’s post, you have to do more than simply assert. That’s what explanation does – it explains the assertion. But you seem to have an objection to it.

          • Verbatim

            I’ll explain myself; I’m not racist, I’m a realist. When the do-gooders and virtue signallers cannot find work because of a crowded demographic prepared to work for far less, when domestic violence rises because the daughters and wives of Muslims want the same rights as female European citizens, when the streets are held hostage to increasing terrorism in the name of Islam; when an ethnic group punishes women or girls for wanting to talk to or sit next to men – or even drive a car- then you can come back and tell me your immigration “project” is a continuing success for the WHOLE society and not just the chosen few (and that includes the morally vain Left).

            Some axioms and values never change. One of these is:

            CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME

          • Paul B

            If you’re now saying racism is bad well, I agree, but that isn’t how you appeared to start off. You started off by saying it is because they’re African. I suggested you might have been being ironic. The opportunity so to admit was missed by you.

            If “charity begins at home”, and if “at home” means discriminating against other racial groups, some of them 3rd or more generation British, then what is the word for that?

            It’s one thing to rail against current or past immigration policy, another to rail against immigrants. The one thing they are not responsible for is our immigration policy.

            But I allow you to distract me. Why is that the tone in The Spectator forum and blog comments is so much more racist than elsewhere?

          • Verbatim

            Go home and caress your phone. You know it will make you feel better…and morally superior.

          • Damaris Tighe

            Because that’s the mental construct you impose on them, which you see as an absolute. Your ‘racism’ is an a priori tag that you don’t question.

          • Paul B

            That’s a reasonable response in comparison to some of the others.

            Certainly I’ve touched a nerve here. Why is that? The article to which we supposedly all comment is written addressing a perception of racism (right or wrong) at The Spectator. I wrote that it seemed to me there was a racist undertone in some of the comments.

            You say that my perception is wrong, and that I see what I look for. Well, I disagree, but given you’re right, why do I see it *here*?

          • Damaris Tighe

            Because the people who post here do not muzzle themselves with political correctness. They say things that have acquired the tag ‘racist’, but which in fact have made the definition of racism so wide that it’s useless. The accusation of racism has been used to shut down criticism of mass immigration. Spectator commentators are usually against mass immigration – & they often express that forcefully. They also tend to have non-relativist views on differing cultures. Neither view necessarily makes them racist in its proper sense.

            Knowing what’s ‘really’ behind a person’s comment is complicated. I would argue that many people who make a habit of accusing others of racism are in fact repressing their own inner racism by virtue-signalling to themselves & others.

          • Paul B

            I suggest best to judge people by their utterances and their actions, not by some magical mind reading process to determine things you yourself say they are unaware of. Just as easily one can create an equally tenuous argument that those who claim they aren’t racist etc etc.

            And “in its proper sense” seems to allow a lot of leeway.

          • Verbatim

            “He” is a “she” actually!!

          • Paul B

            Your point is?

          • Verbatim

            You’re being SEXIST.

          • mohdanga

            If Eritrea proposes to bar my entry because I am white based on what they perceive to be their national interest then so be it. Why should it be any different in white, Western countries? If it’s racist to protect my culture and heritage and not feel like a stranger walking down the streets of my country then yes, I’m a racist. Non-white cultures and countries are praised for throwing off the yolk of the white man and when citizens of the same countries are allowed into white, Western countries are encouraged and funded by white guilt liberal politicians to maintain the cultures of their homelands because of some idiotic belief that multiculturalism and multiethnic societies will somehow absolve the West of their ‘imperialistic sins’.
            I have nothing against the Chinese, Africans, Asians, etc and they can run their countries as they see fit. What I have a problem with is being forced to surrender my country and culture in order to appease foreign cultures that have nothing in common with mine.

          • LittleRedRidingHood

            Probably because they are not in Africa. Migration is not a problem. Unchecked migration is. It is not racist to say so.

          • Verbatim

            Stop chanting the politburo propaganda of the Left that every discussion about illegal immigration is racist. I remember the Jews couldn’t find a home during WW2 and they comprised the SAME ethnic mix as the Anglo-Saxon countries they were seeking to find asylum. It was only their religion which was the point of difference.

          • Paul B

            I chanted no such thing. The article addresses itself to the question of racism at The Spectator. It is more evident here in these forums, various topics, than it is almost anywhere else you care to look. I’m sure The Spectator is embarrassed by some of you.

          • Verbatim

            They’ve got a pretty funny way of showing it, wouldn’t you say?

          • Paul B

            Please feel free at any point to contribute to the argument.

          • LittleRedRidingHood

            Eeeerrrrr. I’m not. I’m saying controlled immigration based on skill need is the right way to go.

          • Paul B

            No. But the article addresses racism. It isn’t me who conflates racism with migration.

          • Verbatim

            Incomprehensible cant.

          • LittleRedRidingHood

            Are you sure. You’ve used the word in the context of people discussing the impact of migration from Africa.
            As all black migration is not opposed then it is not racism. In fact, quite tolerant under the circumstances.

          • Verbatim

            Spot on.

          • Verbatim

            Did you not just read that the people themselves dictated decades ago “Africa for the Africans”. That’s a racist chant yet your lefty luvvies thought it was good. Industrial strength hypocrisy.

          • Verbatim

            Don’t you grow tired of intoning the same mantras in that unthinking way? Try to shrug off the propaganda you’ve been fed and start to think for yourself. On second thoughts, it’s easier to chant the mantras. Please remember to do that when push comes to shove. By then hopefully people will have been able to speak freely instead of being bullied and muzzled by leftist ideologues.

            In refusing to have the discussion at all you simply put yourself in harm’s way. Dumb.

          • Paul B

            If they’re mantras and so easily refuted, refute them. Instead you play the man, not the ball.

          • Verbatim

            They are being refuted by just about every other post here on this page. You choose not to read them and continue your politburo thought-policing.

          • Verbatim

            You’re up to your old stonewalling tricks again. So transparent. People want you to answer the question and you throw up a red herring. Just so you know….

        • Verbatim

          How else may I be of service?

          • Paul B

            Consider the article, and address yourself to the subject at hand.

          • Verbatim

            The ultimate red herring. You’ve been watching too much “Yes Minister”.

  • Chris

    ‘Racist’ isn’t the A-bomb of insults; it’s just the last refuge of those who’ve lost the argument at every point.

    • Paul B

      So, racists don’t exist, and they should not be called out? [Or celebrated?]

      • LittleRedRidingHood

        They do exist. Probably more so in those communities to which you refer.

        • Paul B

          They’re everywhere, but more evident here.

          • Verbatim

            Deck chair arranging on the “Titanic” 101.

          • LittleRedRidingHood

            No. You are once again confusing people who talk about issues of migration as racists.
            I’m afraid using the term so freely only highlights how close to the truth most people are commenting here..

      • Freddythreepwood

        Straw man! If that’s the best you can do I wonder why you bother.

        • Paul B

          The article addresses itself to racism at The Spectator. So do I.

          • Freddythreepwood

            No you don’t. You post your own racist bollocks and put out straw man arguments. Provocation is what you are about. Go away!

          • Paul B

            You are not obliged to respond to me, not even with a reasoned argument. Good luck with that!

          • Verbatim

            If I were you I’d turn my attention to the REAL problem and not some pc red herring – the wholesale geo-political shift, and its consequences, of foreigners arriving in your country en masse and without compatible values or work skills. And with disease. And you can bet there’ll be the odd terrorist or two once they realize life isn’t going to be the rainbow they were led to believe (again, by the Left).

    • Verbatim

      Try and remember that the Left just intones the same cliches and phrases; they don’t think because they are incapable of it. Back to the drawing board.

  • Freddythreepwood

    Dump your ‘friend’ Mary. The question says more about her/him than about the Spectator.

  • Marcussmod

    This mass migration of culturally incompatible destitute third world people to the West simply has to stop. Western Europes’ survival is at threat unless this mass exodus from over populated Islamist and African countries is ended.

    Not a single African boat migrant must ever be allowed to step foot in Europe. Ironically the West can take a lesson from the Muslim Gulf States who simply refuse to give refuge to their co regionlists and fellow Muslims.

    Before the usual suspects scream ‘waythist’ there are literally hundreds of millions in Africa alone, who want to come to the EU for a ‘better life’.

  • pp22pp

    I studied and worked at Oxford University so I know. Cloistered doesn’t come close to describing your friend and her ilk. Don’t be such a wimp. This is an invasion of people whose values and beliefs are anathema, supposedly to you and your friend. Do NOT allow this silly and sanctimonious twit to ruin your day. These are NOT good people. Tell here that racism is irrrelevant. This is about our survival as a worthwhile place to live. Tell her to shut up and move to Eritrea. Tell her to shove her pious stupidity. Tell her that she is not as important, nor as perfect as she thinks she is and that her piety has very bad, real-world consequences that she in her arrogance thinks she can avoid.

  • moronophobe

    I am a ‘racist’ and I strongly believe that ‘racism’ is the only way to preserve our cultural identity. and I believe that the real crime against humanity is committed by the people who deny that there are differences between different ethnic and cultural groups.

    once again, the socialist ideology is failing, and once again it will have terrible consequences.

    • Paul B

      I appreciate you calling a spade a spade, or at least being forthright. Some others here with your attitude claim not to be racist in some kind of “separate but equal” justification I last heard from the SA National Party in the 1980s re apartheid.

      • moronophobe

        racism is an ideological construct and is therefore, on moral grounds, as much a crime as saying out loud the name of jehova.

        • Paul B

          I have some sympathy with your position as expressed. It’s what you do with your racism that counts, not that you have racist beliefs. Your “ideological construct” is fine as a theoretical mind game (who am I to tell you how to think?) but as soon as it becomes “blacks that way, whites this way” then there’s the crime and I think the world would be a better place if you didn’t exist.

  • pp22pp

    I think it’s such a pity that Moslem gangs are reduced to raping schoolgirls. Ms Wakefield and her friend should squeeze themselves into a pair of hotpants and offer themselves to be raped, beaten and shot up with drugs. They no one cold call them racist.

    Then, when they had served their apprenticeship, they could become true professionals and maybe pick up a better clientele down at the docks. They would have saved some child from rape and done something useful with their pathetic lives.

  • edlancey

    The worst article I have read here. Racism is the A-bomb of insults. I mean ffs. FFS.

    Wakefield has no place on a supposedly non-left wing magazine.

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