Ancient and modern

Julius Caesar could teach Isis a thing or two

21 February 2015

9:00 AM

21 February 2015

9:00 AM

Isis disseminates videos of beheaded captives to spread simple terror. Julius Caesar knew all about it.

In his diaries of his conquest of Gaul (58–51 bc), he constantly acknowledges the power terror wielded. When it became clear, for example, that in 58 bc he would have to take on the powerful German king Ariovistus who had crossed the Rhine into Gaul, his ‘whole army was suddenly gripped by such a panic that their judgement and nerve was seriously undermined’. Caesar, naturally, rallied the troops and in the ensuing engagement drove Ariovistus’ army back across the Rhine with massive losses.

Ariovistus had been a ‘friend of Rome’. That is what Caesar did to ‘friends’ who threatened him.


In 55 bc, two other German tribes crossed the Rhine. Caesar, finding the Gauls encouraging them to roam further in Gallic territory, engaged them at once. The speed of his attack caused utter panic and confusion, and Caesar mowed down the lot, women and children too: 430,000 of them, he suggested. To press the point home, he then crossed the Rhine himself: ‘I could see the Germans were all too keen to come into Gaul, and I wanted to give them reasons to fear for their own safety…’.

Result? The terrified Germans, beaten without a fight, fled for safety deep into their heartlands.

On top of flogging enemy chieftains to death, cutting captives’ hands off, and enslaving a million or so, this was Caesar’s way: ruthless decision-making, devastating speed of assault. But knowing that Rome’s terror tactics could generate a ferocious reaction (as the British fighter Calgacus said to his troops), Caesar had other cards to play when needed — he was equally famous for his clementia. Enemies never quite knew where they were with him.

The initiative against Isis was lost as they established themselves against a useless Iraqi army. But they are not invincible, and have yet to be tested in major conflict. Caesar’s Gallic Wars would make instructive reading.

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  • zanzamander

    The lesson to learn here is to be even more ruthless, barbarous and heinous than your enemy. Conducting a war with PC brigade in toe watching our every move just doesn’t do the trick.

    Question is, can we be that brutal? Can we burn our future captive IS prisoner of the future in a cage, bury him alive, take his heart out and feed it to the troops? I’m guessing not. Remember, even after killing Osama bin Laden, US gave this man who it was insisting was not even a Muslim, a full Islamic sending off – just to keep our end of the bargain.

    Remember also we tried winning hearts and minds, nation buildings, giving bribes and molly coddling our foes. And if it is the barbarity of killing that wins wars then we’ve already lost it. We just don’t have it in us. We’d rather live like slaves, dhimmis, then be thought of as…racists.

    Rome eventually became docile, lazy, tired and gave up defending itself. That is what is going to happen to us. This is how Rome fell.

    • Pootles

      The US may have give him the full Islamic send-off, but they killed him. That’s the way to do it!

      • zanzamander

        So when Caesar butchered his prisoners do you think he then gave them all a proper Pagan burials reciting their prayers etc. Yeah right, that would really show his enemies he means business!

        What US did was killed him and then apologised for it.

        • Pootles

          No they didn’t, they were just behaving in a reasonably civilised fashion. Burying your enemies (even at sea) decently isn’t the wrong thing to do. And I don’t think imitating the ancients in everything is a good idea – you’ll end up like ISIL if you do.

          • LarryInIowa

            You are right in that a proper burial is the civilized thing to do. If we were dealing with civilized people it would be just fine. Unfortunately ISIS has proved to be immune to such niceties.

            Perhaps we should treat them in a manner that would preclude them from collecting their 72 virgins. How about feeding them to ravenous swine? We should use their beliefs against them.

          • KRW

            Our behavior shows our character. It is has nothing to do with other people’s strange beliefs. Their behaviors show thier characters.

          • LastmaninEurope

            You have my sympathies here Larry.

            For too long the West has intellectualised its responses to societal and political challenges. Currently the Muslim in the White Mosque is busy explaining that the root cause of extremist violence is poverty. This article alone dismisses that apologist theory http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/19/opinion/bergen-terrorism-root-causes/index.html

            The argument for ‘wider, nuanced approaches’ is alluring but an honest appraisal shows that it has, for the most part, failed our societies quite hideously.

            Your interlocutor KRW sounds like an intellectual apologist with his sanctimonious “our behaviour shows our character”.

            Unlawful behaviours against the enemy demonstrate neither our true character or would be civilised. Paradoxically Progressives ought to be apologists for those carrying out such acts, applying their subtle, nuanced understanding of human nature and over arching imperatives, rather than jumping to condemn them.

            Lawful actions are civilised; agreeing tough responses that fit the crime and carrying this out in a controlled and judicial manner demonstrates character. Feeding ISIS extremists to swine is, for me, a step too far. But I would apply the death penalty to those captured, a la Nuremberg, their totalitarian ethos promotes the genocide of all kuffar much like the Nazi’s, albeit for a more limited target audience.

            KRW’s response is wonderfully enlightened and morally superior. He would do well to recall the Orwell quote “We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm”.

          • Grace Ironwood

            A rough man like General al Sisi. His repellent actions against the Brotherhood may help save his country from Sharia & promote victory.

          • Tinmouth

            To have given Bin Laden an Islamic burial means that we recognized the legitimacy of the cause he was fighting for. To give him an Islamic burial means that we agree that he was fighting as an observant Muslim and we respect him and his religion. If we thought that his version of Islam was not legitimate, why would we give him a legitimately Islamic burial? Why not just dump him into the ocean without any religious service at all, since our leader insists that he and his cohorts are not real Muslims? Well, the dirty little secret is that everybody knows he was a real Muslim, and Islam was what he was fighting for.

          • Bonkim

            Cremation would do the trick.

          • Ed  

            What the US did was bury Bin Laden at sea, for two good reasons. First, there’s no shrine, and second, burial at sea is a calculated insult to islam, which requires very specific burial arrangements.

            One of the few things the US has gotten right in this mess.

          • Roger Hudson

            The 1945 nazi criminals were hanged, cremated and their ashes dumped in a ditch. Even the millions of German dead were not given decent burial. Terrorists should not have marked graves.

    • paulthorgan

      IS will never commit an atrocity large enough for decisive military action. Instead there will be a drip-feed of violence that will sap our will to resist.

      It took the Luftwaffe Blitz on Britain in 1940-41 that killed 40,000 people to allow the 1,000 bomber raids and a deliberate dehousing policy to become politically acceptable in Britain and that acceptability was called into question at the highest level 70 years ago this month.

      • Ed  

        I hate the things we had to do during WWII, but I am glad that we won. Very glad.

        Lincoln had the right idea, when he suspended habeas corpus during the US rebellion; “are all the laws but one to go unexecuted, that the one may be observed?”

        Preserving our way of life requires backbone. Lincoln and Churchill had it. Do we?

        • Roger Hudson

          You will look for a British leader in vain.

          • Ed  

            Well, maybe Farage just a little bit. At least he’s not embarrassed of himself.

    • greggf

      “Question is, can we be that brutal?”

      Yes I think we can zanza, the SS were pretty much worse and so were the Russians.

      PC does seem to tie our hands currently, that’s true. But like the
      assassination in Sarajevo, seen as a minor event at the time, the stage is set for a similar moment to occur now, or soon, and it will be like Sarajevo was, an embodiment of chaos theory: the flutter of a butterfly wing that set
      off a hurricane!

    • John

      It’s nothing to do with PC. We didn’t torture people in WWII, even when our enemies tortured our men. Your eagerness to descend to ISIS-level atrocity is simply a sign of your own immorality.

      • Mc

        I agree with your main point, but I beg to differ about your point that we didn’t commit torture in WWII. The Intelligence Services tortured those enemy who they thought held useful intelligence (turns out many victims didn’t have useful intelligence, so just lied in the hope of stopping the pain). The UK certainly didn’t torture on the scale of the Nazis, but it certainly was a deliberature interrogation technique.

        • Tom M

          Quite so Mc and including (perhaps especially) during the Northern Ireland troubles. Anybody who thinks we don’t when the chips are down isn’t in this world.

    • Terry Field

      We will win because we have hardworkingstriver women in the front line of their armed forces! Who can resist the boob-tube brigades, equipped with a range of terrifying personal weaponry, including pamphlets on ‘equal opportunities in the West’ and ‘ You cold surrender and celebrate the diversity’ placards that will put terror into the herts of Isis, Osiris and all the other funny foreigners from Bongo Bongo Land.

    • Terry Field

      If you fight, you fight to win; unlike the women who run the West.

  • “Caesar’s Gallic Wars would make instructive reading.”

    That would mean Rome created the two hostile German tribes and brought them into Gaul to cause chaos. Now why would Rome want to imitate Marxists in Washington, DC, London, Paris, Berlin, etc. by ferrying into Iraq, from Turkey, Ukraine Ground Forces (approximately 20% of Islamic State thugs are Ukraine Ground Forces) for the purpose of assisting Russia’s oil-based economy by cutting Iraq’s oil exports. If you recall, the West cut Libya’s oil exports back in 2012.

    “But they are not invincible, and have yet to be tested in major conflict.”

    That’s precisely what’s going to take place, as all Marxists, and those in the know, know…

    The so-called “War on Terror” is an operation being carried out by the Marxist co-opted governments of the West in alliance with the USSR and other Communist nations, the purpose being to (1) destroy the prominence of the West in the eyes of the world, where the West is seen (i) invading nations without cause; (ii) causing chaos around the globe; and (iii) killing over one-million civilians and boasting of torture; (2) close off non-Russian supplies of oil for export, thereby increasing the price of oil, the higher price allowing oil exporting Russia to maintain economic stability while she modernizes and increases her military forces; (3) destroy the United States Armed Forces via the never-ending “War on Terror”; the ultimate purpose of the aforementioned to (4) bring about the demise of the United States in the world, opening up a political void to be filled by a new pan-national entity composed of Europe and Russia (replacing the European Union), a union “From the Atlantic to Vladivostok”; which will (5) see the end of NATO.

    The fraudulent “collapse” of the USSR (and East Bloc) couldn’t have been pulled off until both political parties in the United States (and political parties elsewhere in the West) were co-opted by Marxists, which explains why verification of the “collapse” was never undertaken by the West, such verification being (1) a natural administrative procedure (since the USSR wasn’t occupied by Western military forces); and (2) necessary for the survival of the West. Recall President Reagan’s favorite phrase, “Trust, but verify”.

    Notice that not one political party in the West requested verification of the collapse of the USSR, and the media failed to alert your attention to this fact, including the “alternative” media. When determining whether the “former” USSR is complying with arms control treaties, what does the United States do to confirm compliance? Right, the United States sends into the “former” USSR investigative teams to VERIFY compliance, yet when it’s the fate of the West that’s at stake should the collapse of the USSR be a ruse, what does the United States do to confirm the collapse? Nothing!

    It gets worse–the “freed” Soviets and West also never (1) de-Communized the Soviet Armed Forces of its Communist Party officer corps, which was 90% officered by Communist Party members; and (2) arrested/de-mobilized the 6-million vigilantes that assisted the Soviet Union’s Ministry of the Interior and police control the populations of the larger cities during the period of “Perestroika” (1986-1991)!

    There can be no collapse of the USSR (or East Bloc nations) without…

    Verification, De-Communization and De-mobilization.

    The West never verified the collapse of the USSR because no collapse occurred, since if a real collapse had occurred the West would have verified it, since the survival of the West depends on verification. Conversely, this proves that the political parties of the West were co-opted by Marxists long before the fraudulent collapse of the USSR, since the survival of the West depends on verification.

    Now you know how Bolshevik Russia survived in 1917; how the West “lost” China to the Communists in 1949; why the Eisenhower administration turned a deaf ear to the anti-Communist Hungarian uprising in 1956; why the Eisenhower administration in 1959 was indifferent to the Castro brothers’ Communist fidelity, actually used the CIA to overthrow the Batista government; why the Nixon administration abandoned Taiwan for Communist China, and signed treaties/provided economic aid to the USSR; why the Nixon administration refused to tell the American People that over 50% of North Vietnamese NVA regiments were actually Chinese People’s Liberation Army soldiers (attired in NVA uniforms, and proving that the Sino/Soviet Split was a ruse, as KGB defector Major Anatoliy Golitsyn told the West back in 1962), thereby (1) ensuring the Vietnam War would be lost; (2) destroying the prominence of the United States abroad and at home; (3) breeding distrust between the American people and their government; and (4) securing Communist victories in Southeast Asia. Working in the background within the political parties of the United States and Great Britain were Marxist agents doing their best to (1) ensure the survival of Communist nations when they popped up; and (2) sabotage any policies that would bring down a Communist nation. That’s why after the fake collapses of the East Bloc nations and USSR there was no mandatory Western verification process to ensure the Communists weren’t still in control.

    • Ivan Ewan

      Just cause you keep pasting it, doesn’t make it any less insane.

      • “Just cause you keep pasting it, doesn’t make it any less insane.”

        What “insane” would that be, Comrade? Marxists sure are short on exposition these days. I wonder why?

        What precisely is it about the following you don’t comprehend…

        The West never verified the collapse of the USSR because no collapse occurred, since if a real collapse had occurred the West would have verified it, since the survival of the West depends on verification. Conversely, this proves that the political parties of the West were co-opted by Marxists long before the fraudulent collapse of the USSR, since the survival of the West depends on verification.

        • Ivan Ewan

          Well, thanks. I didn’t even specify which part was insane, but you were able to highlight the right part anyway – indicating that you realise how insane it is already.

          Like most trolls, you give the game away by being thick as a brick, and no, I won’t be replying to you on this subject again.

          • “Well, thanks. I didn’t even specify which part was insane, but you were able to highlight the right part anyway – indicating that you realise how insane it is already.”

            And? Once more, where’s the exposition, the breakdown of the paragraph’s insanity? Is that the best the British Marxist School System has to offer its students–ad hominem?

      • MC73

        It’s really not worth arguing with the profoundly mentally ill mate.

        • “It’s really not worth arguing with the profoundly mentally ill mate.”

          There’s no such thing as mental illness [sic],* but there is something known as cognitive impairment, where the sufferer has no clue what the following means…

          ‘The West never verified the collapse of the USSR because no collapse occurred, since if a real collapse had occurred the West would have verified it, since the survival of the West depends on verification. Conversely, this proves that the political parties of the West were co-opted by Marxists long before the fraudulent collapse of the USSR, since the survival of the West depends on verification.’

          If you’re suffering from intellectual disability, then the following will leave you clueless as to its meaning…

          Approximately 97% of Lenin’s statues that stood in Russia before the fake collapse of the USSR are to this day still standing (that 97% statistic constitutes thousands of statues)….

          “Almost every town in Russia has a prominent statue of Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, father of the October Revolution…”

          http://www.saint-petersburg.com/monuments/ploshchad-lenina/

          The only statues taken down were in those locations where foreign tourists would travel the most, and those statues weren’t destroyed either but re-located to museums or parks, waiting there for their planned resurrections–after the defeat of the West…

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallen_Monument_Park

          In fact, in other “former” republics of the USSR statues of Lenin weren’t toppled and destroyed either, they were carefully removed from their foundations and relocated to new locations, such as in the backyard of the Estonian History Museum at the Maarjamaë Palace.

          http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lenin_statue,_Maarjama%C3%AB_Palace,_Tallinn._Estonia.jpg

          …and in Lithuania, statues to Lenin and Marx are located at Grūtas Park, which also incredulously has, now get this, a Soviet theme park, replete with “…a mini-zoo and cafes, all containing relics of the Soviet era. On special occasions actors stage re-enactments of various Soviet-sponsored festivals”!…

          http://www.goworldtravel.com/travel-lithuania-grutas-park-reminder-of-dark-past/

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C5%ABtas_Park

          Now you know why up uitll 2013 the “electorates” of Russia, Georgia and the Ukraine only “elected” for president Soviet era Communist Party member Quislings, except for the first president of Georgia, Zviad Gamsakhurdia, a true dissident who didn’t even last nine months in office before he was ousted in a coup, later said to have committed “suicide”. Zviad Gamsakhurdia was a failed test run to see if a non-Communist Party member president could be controlled. Since when are hated Quislings elected back into power as president!

          The fraudulent “collapse” of the USSR (and East Bloc) couldn’t have been pulled off until both political parties in the United States (and political parties elsewhere in the West) were co-opted by Marxists, which explains why verification of the “collapse” was never undertaken by the West, such verification being (1) a natural administrative procedure (since the USSR wasn’t occupied by Western military forces); and (2) necessary for the survival of the West. Recall President Reagan’s favorite phrase, “Trust, but verify”.

          Notice that not one political party in the West requested verification of the collapse of the USSR, and the media failed to alert your attention to this fact, including the “alternative” media. When determining whether the “former” USSR is complying with arms control treaties, what does the United States do to confirm compliance? Right, the United States sends into the “former” USSR investigative teams to VERIFY compliance, yet when it’s the fate of the West that’s at stake should the collapse of the USSR be a ruse, what does the United States do to confirm the collapse? Nothing!

          It gets worse–the “freed” Soviets and West also never (1) de-Communized the Soviet Armed Forces of its Communist Party officer corps, which was 90% officered by Communist Party members; and (2) arrested/de-mobilized the 6-million vigilantes that assisted the Soviet Union’s Ministry of the Interior and police control the populations of the larger cities during the period of “Perestroika” (1986-1991)!

          There can be no collapse of the USSR (or East Bloc nations) without…

          Verification, De-Communization and De-mobilization.

          The West never verified the collapse of the USSR because no collapse occurred, since if a real collapse had occurred the West would have verified it, since the survival of the West depends on verification. Conversely, this proves that the political parties of the West were co-opted by Marxists long before the fraudulent collapse of the USSR, since the survival of the West depends on verification.

          The above means that the so-called “War on Terror” is an operation being carried out by the Marxist co-opted governments of the West in alliance with the USSR and other Communist nations, the purpose being to (1) destroy the prominence of the West in the eyes of the world, where the West is seen (i) invading nations without cause; (ii) causing chaos around the globe; and (iii) killing over one-million civilians and boasting of torture; (2) close off non-Russian supplies of oil for export, thereby increasing the price of oil, the higher price allowing oil exporting Russia to maintain economic stability while she modernizes and increases her military forces; (3) destroy the United States Armed Forces via the never-ending “War on Terror”; the ultimate purpose of the aforementioned to (4) bring about the demise of the United States in the world, opening up a political void to be filled by a new pan-national entity composed of Europe and Russia (replacing the European Union), a union “From the Atlantic to Vladivostok”; which will (5) see the end of NATO.

          Now you know how Bolshevik Russia survived in 1917; how the West “lost” China to the Communists in 1949; why the Eisenhower administration turned a deaf ear to the anti-Communist Hungarian uprising in 1956; why the Eisenhower administration in 1959 was indifferent to the Castro brothers’ Communist fidelity, actually used the CIA to overthrow the Batista government; why the Nixon administration abandoned Taiwan for Communist China, and signed treaties/provided economic aid to the USSR; why the Nixon administration refused to tell the American People that over 50% of North Vietnamese NVA regiments were actually Chinese People’s Liberation Army soldiers (attired in NVA uniforms, and proving that the Sino/Soviet Split was a ruse, as KGB defector Major Anatoliy Golitsyn told the West back in 1962), thereby (1) ensuring the Vietnam War would be lost; (2) destroying the prominence of the United States abroad and at home; (3) breeding distrust between the American people and their government; and (4) securing Communist victories in Southeast Asia. Working in the background within the political parties of the United States and Great Britain were Marxist agents doing their best to (1) ensure the survival of Communist nations when they popped up; and (2) sabotage any policies that would bring down a Communist nation. That’s why after the fake collapses of the East Bloc nations and USSR there was no mandatory Western verification process to ensure the Communists weren’t still in control.

          Further proof that the Soviet Union never collapsed:

          (1) The Emblem of the Soviet Union atop the Russian State Duma building…

          http://footage.framepool.com/shotimg/qf/544004264-duma-kremlin-palace-russian-flag-red-square.jpg

          Notice that the State Emblem of the Soviet Union is illuminated at night for clear viewing by Muscovites…

          http://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-3345878-stock-footage-street-traffic-on-okhotny-ryad-and-state-duma-at-evening-in-moscow.html

          …however the coat of arms of the Russian Federation, situated above the door between the fourth and fifth floors, isn’t illuminated, though either side of the heraldic design is illuminated for no apparent purpose other than to highlight the heraldic design’s obsolescence.

          (2) High atop the facade of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs building, the State Emblem of the Soviet Union

          is Illuminated with pinpoint precision at night…

          http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4149/5168126126_02c5505a79_m.jpg

          (3) The State Emblem of the Soviet Union atop the Russian Ministry of Defense building, including other Soviet era iconography…

          http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/51802114.jpg

          (4) Soviet Red Stars atop Kremlin towers remain where Stalin placed them in 1935…

          http://rt.com/files/news/37/3d/30/00/russia-ukraine-dialogue-peskov.si.jpg

          (5) Moscow’s Central Post Office employees are still in the dark as to the “collapse” of the USSR in late 1991..

          http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/dangerroom/2012/10/Central_telegraph_Moscow.jpg

          Why, you ask? Click the following link for the answer…

          https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSWwliNXIZONPNidfnkRh6BxX75JS3mQB5Qp0PCgGiYzNI61EF2

          (6)Headquarters of the Russian Federal Security Service, and the Soviet Union’s security service, the KGB…

          https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/16187/98708185.20/0_d84cd_41f388f4_XL.jpg

          Note the State Emblem of the Soviet Union still over the main door, and hammer and sickle logo still above the clock. Click following link for nighttime view…

          http://vindenes.nu/gallery/wp-content/gallery/m419.jpg

          Note illumination of hammer & sickle, and enhanced illumination of area above the main door, where the office of the KGB chief was located (third floor).

          (7) Satellite image of the Volga River cities of Engels, (right), and Saratov (left)…

          http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9504/190708966.8/0_8a367_1ca2f18f_L.jpg

          Engels Air Force Base is east of Engels city, where the two long parallel lines are located, …

          http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-w6rMlJAPFXU/UJ7KEuTD1FI/AAAAAAAABnE/9JkaNrXYY28/s1600/RUSSIA-ENGEL.jpg

          Notice that Engels city and adjacent air base were named after Marxist “hero” Friedrich Engels, but the names were never changed after Russians were “liberated” from Soviet tyranny in December 1991 with the “collapse” of the USSR.

          (8) Red Star, the Official newspaper of the Soviet Union’s Ministry of Defense…

          http://cdn3.img22.ria.ru/images/98392/32/983923224.jpg

          Note the Soviet era title (Red Star) and the four Soviet emblems (representing awards) to the left of the masthead, the outer emblem displaying Vladimir Lenin. Now, click the following link to view the official newspaper of the Russian Ministry of Defense…

          http://www.redstar.ru/

          The newspaper is still called Red Star(!) and still has the four Soviet emblems with Vladimir Lenin still present!

          (9) Soviet roundel still on Russian military aircraft…

          http://theuspatriot.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Russian-fighter-jets1.jpg

          (10) Soviet era Communist emblem (red star) still attached to the port bow of the Russian missile cruiser Varyag…

          http://global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/fn-latino/news/Russian%20Naval%20Ship.jpg
          ——————————–
          * http://www.psychotherapy.net/interview/thomas-szasz

    • Airey Belvoir

      Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…………….

  • Graeme S

    Great Article …. our politicians are gutless, and zanzamander is right we apologise for ridding the world of these monsters … However the public have the will , the army has the wherewith all… let them get on with it !! keep the BBC at Home though

    • “However the public have the will , the army has the wherewith all… let them get on with it !! keep the BBC at Home though”

      What’s up, Comrade! Getting nervous, now that the truth is out in public? That’s just the beginning…

    • rightrightright

      The BBC will be at home hiding under the bed. These Moslems that the Beeb loves up all the time have the diverse and enriching habit of chopping off the heads of journalists, even friendly ones.

    • davidofkent

      I’m afraid you are writing nonsense. There is neither will nor wherewithal.

  • sidor

    The article is entirely beyond the point. The lesson has to be learned by the West, if it really intends to win. And the lesson should be learned not from outdated Caesar, but from Clausewitz. He made two relevant points. First, wars happen between states. ISIS is not a state. The West has to make its mind about which state it is actually fighting. Second, war is an extension of politics. That is, a political goal of the war must be clearly formulated. The West has to make its mind on which side it is in the currently unfolding global religious war within Islam.

  • Johnwillettssocialist

    I doubt the various armed groups now fighting ISIS will be carrying a little green card with advice on what behaviour is appropriate towards the enemy. ISIS haven’t exactly made many friends and there are a few people with scores to settle. I feel almost sorry for the lad from Small Heath or Halifax or wherever whose dreams of a long and happy life surrounded by wives and children in a global caliphate will end very messily when he’s hunted down and dispatched, slowly, by a gang of Kurds with very sharp blades. I feel almost sorry-but not enough that makes any difference.

  • Carter Lee

    Caesar’s Legionaries were the real thing and didn’t get PTSD because mommy wasn’t around to tuck them into bed like today’s out of shape and overweight U. S. Army.

    • saffrin

      Julius Caesar was a bandit an a mega scale.
      Rape, pillage and plunder was what Julius Caesar was all about.
      Self interest all the way.

  • sebastian2

    ISIS can easily be beaten. Assuming we have the will to do it (which I somehow doubt), ISIS losses would be complete. A total and ignominious flattening. Cinders and twisted wreckage in the desert and lines of sobbing, pleading prisoners. But this isn’t the real battle.

    More authentic is the battle of ideas and our determination to engage in it. This, if anything, is a conflict of ideologies, with weaponry added. Regrettably, the ideology – mohammedism – is getting away with far too much. If our society cannot expel evid-doers (and many are mohammedans) because of “human rights” or challenge, dismantle, even ridicule, mohammedism’s core beliefs because of fear, or alleged “islamophobia”, then we’re basically up a gum tree. We deceive ourselves into thinking ISIS is a mohammedan aberration. Not “the real islam”. This is false. It is real.

    Those living comfortably in the kuffir west are the aberrant muslims, despite what they say. They affect mohammedism, and enjoy the conciliatory stance of our timid institutions unwilling to cast proper doubt on “liberal” mohammedans’ make-believe. Many muslims may be decent but they’re that way despite the cult not because of it. Islam is not nice. Its most fervent devotees are awful. Read the history. Read the texts. Look at what it’s doing now – for real.

    Mohammedism is not a religion of peace or tolerance – except perhaps on its own terms alone. Wishful thinking won’t make it otherwise. Julius Caesar would’ve understood that even if we fail to. And he’d understand why it need demolishing.

  • sebastian2

    ISIS can easily be beaten. Assuming we have the will to do it (which I
    somehow doubt), ISIS losses would be complete. A total and ignominious
    flattening. Cinders and twisted wreckage in the desert and lines of sobbing,
    pleading prisoners trembling and shuddering with shock and abject fear. A taste
    of their own medicine. But this isn’t the real battle.

    More authentic is the battle of ideas and our determination to engage in it.
    This, if anything, is a conflict of ideologies, with weaponry added. Regrettably,
    the ideology – some call it islam – is getting away with far too much. If our
    society cannot expel evil-doers (and many are mohammedans) because of
    “human rights” or challenge, dismantle, even ridicule, this cult’s
    core delusions because of fear, or alleged “islamophobia”, then we’re
    basically up a gum tree. We deceive ourselves into thinking ISIS is an
    aberration. Not “the real islam”. This is false. …………. It is
    real.

    Those living comfortably in the kuffir west are the aberrant muslims,
    despite what they say. They affect their religion, and enjoy the conciliatory
    stance of our timid institutions unwilling to cast proper doubt on
    “liberal” believers’ make-believe. Many muslims may be decent but they’re
    that way despite the cult not because of it. Islam is not nice. Its most
    fervent devotees are awful. Read the history. Read the texts. Look at what it’s
    doing now – for real.

    Mohammedism is not a religion of peace or tolerance – except perhaps on its
    own terms alone. Wishful thinking won’t make it otherwise. Julius Caesar
    would’ve understood that even if we fail to. And he’d understand why it needs
    demolishing though I wish we didn’t have to so fondly reminisce about a Roman
    genocidal murderer over it. If we had modern leaders with intelligence and spine,
    we wouldn’t have to.

  • Dizzy Alex

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