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Sanctions won’t tame Vladimir Putin’s Russia. Talking might

26 July 2014

9:00 AM

26 July 2014

9:00 AM

The civilised world felt as if its heart had been touched by an icicle. Photographs of murdered children. Biogs of people like us; we could have been on that plane. We will be on similar ones, now reminded of our vulnerability to frivolous barbarians in possession of terrifying weapons. Grief and fear lead rapidly to anger: to the demand that something must be done to punish the evildoers and rescue us from insecurity. That might seem a comforting thought. It is also false comfort, for there is a basic problem. What can we do?

When in doubt, think hard, in a long historical perspective. Paradoxically, that apparently arid discipline may bring real comfort.

The disintegration of empires always makes the earth tremble as it is battered by tumbling geopolitical masonry. Think how long Europe took to regain the civilised standards it lost with the fall of Rome. Consider the Austro-Hungarian and Turkish empires: above all, the British one. Our imperial exhaustion led us to abandon Palestine and Pakistan, those two Ps which no princess’s mattress can suppress: those two possible catalysts for a nuclear war which could destroy mankind.

By comparison, the end of the Russian empire has been surprisingly pacific. No insoluble problems have emerged, and no strategic quarrel with the West. There are diplomatic difficulties, but if we cannot resolve them without threats, posturing and insecurity, we will be guilty of contemptible ineptitude. We must start by considering different versions of history. The Russians believe that they broke Hitler after appalling sufferings and sacrifices, none of which were fully aided by or appreciated in the West. They also believe that they renounced their empire, virtually accepting their defeat in the Cold War — while the West promptly set out to continue that war by extending the frontiers of Nato in order to humiliate Russia.

It is a partial view, omitting interesting details such as the Molotov/Ribbentrop Pact and the nature of empires. The western empires in the third world had a civilising mission. This was not true of the Soviet one in central Europe. That said, the Russian version of recent history is no more dishonest than de Gaulle’s account of the liberation of France in 1944. Since 1945, French foreign policy has owed more to post-traumatic stress disorder than to a rational appraisal of events. The French had an excuse.


Look at the American South. Defeats inflict psychic punishment which endures for decades. In its response to Cold War victory, the West had no such excuse. Our handling of Russia since 1990 has been a succession of abject failures.

We needed an aphorism, and a conclusion. The aphorism was Churchill’s: in victory, magnanimity. The conclusion was more complex. Russia was on a new trajectory. Where it would lead, no one knew, least of all the Russians. It might therefore seem sensible to scrap our concepts and retain our weapons systems. A succession of western statesmen should have gone to Moscow to praise holy Russia, eternal Russia, heroic Russia: to give thanks for the cultural and spiritual reunion of Europe. The vast moral and artistic resources of the Russian people were once again part of the common heritage of mankind. Let the glory of renewed Russia shine forth as a light unto the nations.

The next day, when everyone was sober, there should have been an entirely different tone of discussion, owing much more to arm-wrestling than to apotheosis. The Westerners should have made it clear that although Nato would continue to exist, we were in the market for a new treaty that offered collective security to western Europe and to the former Soviet Union. This military entente could be reinforced by trade arrangements offering evolving co-operation with the EU.

All that might have worked under early Putin. We could have done business with him. His supposed greatest liability, the KGB past, should have been an asset. KGB officers had one advantage denied to ordinary Russians: information. A KGB operative in the West, tasked with extolling the Soviet system, must have felt like a member of the flat-earth society who had booked a round-the-world cruise.

From the outset, Mr Putin was never an attractive human being. But he was a Russian patriot — nothing wrong with that — who wanted things to work: better than the alternative. He knew that the old Soviet system had not worked and had heard talk of free markets and democracy, which gave better results. That is when we ought to have been encouraging him.

We were too slow, and he was always a ditherer, easily alarmed by the threat of chaos. He was also seduced, by power, populism and plunder. The worst aspects of his character have now taken command.

So how should we respond? Cautiously. When the plane was shot down, there was a certain amount of anxious chatter about an Archduke moment. But we are not going to start the third world war in eastern Ukraine. There is a lot of talk about sanctions. There is even the fantasy that if the oligarchs were hit, so that their wives could no longer shop in Harrods, they would turn on Putin, in the way that the German generals might have turned on Hitler. Forget it; this is no longer the Rhineland. This is more like the Anschluss. Putin is impregnably popular.

That has one positive point. As he has nothing to fear from democracy, he has no reason to suppress it. Russia’s crablike moves towards modernisation and progress could survive Putin. As for sanctions, they have a long history of futility. In Russia, they might succeed in degrading the economy, so that it remained wholly dependent on natural resources. That is in no one’s interests. Russia has enough natural resources to pay a lot of bills and wages while deteriorating into truculence. The alternative is an increasingly sophisticated Russia, which could enhance both domestic stability and world GDP. Sanctions encourage backwardness. Russia is already backward enough.

Can we do anything at all? Yes. Consider Bismarck, the greatest of foreign ministers. What would he have done? Called a congress. Let us say the Congress of Prague, to convene in the early new year. That would give everyone the excuse to calm down and give their rhetoric a cold shower. It might also free attention to the real threat facing the world. The Ukraine is a sideshow. Gaza is worrying.

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  • serpentskiss3 .

    All the coulda shoulda wouldas aside here. In a nutshell I agree ruining the Russian peoples lives with sectoral sanctions is not the way to go. I do think individual sanctions are important.
    One thing missing here is that we do not know how to talk to Putin / Kremlin. A think tank on what exact words are to be used when dealing with them. We have a distorted, paranoid, unfeeling bunch here. How do the experts talk to sociopaths? Or schizophrenics? Neither of these 2 disorders are curable but they are treatable to a point of functioning within society of different degrees. (I hope you see where I am coming from?) Russian history shows these delusional paranoid traits is part of them. It will not be going away with the next generation or the next. So, how do we work with them on a level that is acceptable to them without placating or feeding or exacerbating the dangerously negative aspects of their behavior towards the world? Learn how to talk to them. At least it would be a step forward. Easy or difficult as learning a new language. Yes, it has been on my mind a bit. 🙂

    • Baron

      The German Frau knows how to talk to him, serpentskiss3, she even speaks Russian (he German). Baron would trust her to represent him.

  • Picquet

    I was wondering when you’d get to that final paragraph, and glad when you did. Until then, you were expounding like a PPE lecturer, not thinking like one of today’s politicians. You’re right.

  • Baron

    Mr. Anderson, you should be appointed Foreign Secretary forthwith, take as a moonlighting job that of the Secretary of State of the Republic as well.

    If The Scots by some quirk of nature decide to go it alone, you stay here, please, Britain needs you.

  • rtj1211

    Nothing will change until the West acknowledges that it was a full participant in the looting of the Russian economy post 1990. All that has happened in Russia since is predicated on that looting and the absolutely dire suffering that followed.

    Stop pontificating like a village vicar who refuses to acknowledge that wars to spread christianity promoted mass murder.

    And stop thinking that the West has the right to ‘control’ Russia. It doesn’t have any right to do that whatever. Russia has decided to build alliances away from the West and anything you or anyone else says about that means nothing. They have the right under international law to do so and if you even attempt to claim that the West, and especially America, can tolerate such behaviour, you need to be incarcerated in a lunatic asylum for the safety of society. We had our chance with Russia 25 years ago. We blew it.

    Stop thinking you can rape a man’s daughter and then do business with him as free men……

  • elystan

    Thoughtful and thought-provoking

  • Terry Field

    A little hubrisitc. ‘We’ in no way control events as ‘we’ once did. Bismark was on top of the heap by his radical nationalist activity. Any Congress he might call would have been effective, because of his muscle. Something Putin is making sure he is in posession of.
    Putin is getting there on his own.
    ‘We’ are more marginal.
    ‘We’ will be lucky if chaos and war does not begin to overwhelm ‘us’, but the cause will be ‘our’ dissolution.
    ‘We’ lack belief in anything,
    ‘We’ lack moral certainty,
    ‘We’ lack fortitude, self-sacrifice, and
    ‘We’ are infected with relativist, socialist self-interest. Slush, slush and more slush.
    Gaza is significant because it is a fuse for the Islamic world to act and unite – one day. Not much sign of that now – so please describe the ‘threat’ in terms that are specific and not subliminal and – probably – nonsensical.
    Iran is doing well; Obama is helping them.
    Europe will decline further, and become subject to Putin’s Russian Empire in ways this article does not recognise.
    This article is redolent of the atmosphere of a club in St James – out of touch, comfortable, insulated from reality. Sleepy.

    And the Roman Empire left no problems because universal Christianity which it institutionalised acted as a cement and a common value set.
    Now the existential threat for us is Islam.It invades and neutralises our societies.
    We no longer confront it, disrupt it, attack it, as we once did.
    It has the British Home Office and the Justice Ministry eating out of its hand. Its propaganda organ, the BBC does sterling work on its behalf and makes Al Jazzy look reasonable and tame.

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  • John Locke

    Putin is a man who poisons his traitors using polonium tea. That is how he talks. That message was certainly loud and clear. You want to talk back to him? Better learn his language first. But I’m pretty sure you’re not capable of that. The naivete of the writer of this article is appalling, people like you will be the end of us all.

    One more thing. You can’t “make” people do things or “change” people. You are not Putin’s parents. Even if you were his parents, giving him a stern lecture or grounding him or making him stand in the corner for 10 minutes or other sanctions like that won’t make him docile and obedient — rather the opposite. He’s a grown up man who does what he wants to do. And takes what he wants to take. And no mouth breathing is going to change that.

    • Baron

      If you have any evidence for the assertion Putin has poisoned Litvinenko enlighten us, please.

      “To prejudge other men’s notions before we have looked into them is not to show their darkness, but to put out our own eyes” said the great man whose name you’ve pinched. He would be appalled by this atavistic rant of yours.

  • Thanks to Dr Brave for bringing back my wife,and brought great joy to my family?

    Hello to every one out here, am here to share the unexpected miracle that happened to me three days ago, My name is Jeffrey Dowling,i live in TEXAS,USA.and I`m happily married to a lovely and caring wife,with two kids A very big problem occurred in my family seven months ago,between me and my wife so terrible that she took the case to court for a divorce she said that she never wanted to stay with me again,and that she did not love me anymore So she packed out of my house and made me and my children passed through severe pain. I tried all my possible means to get her back,after much begging,but all to no avail and she confirmed it that she has made her decision,and she never wanted to see me again. So on one evening,as i was coming back from work,i met an old friend of mine who asked of my wife So i explained every thing to her,so she told me that the only way i can get my wife back,is to visit a spell caster,because it has really worked for her too So i never believed in spell,but i had no other choice,than to follow her advice. Then she gave me the email address of the spell caster whom she visited.(bravespellcaster@gmail.com}, So the next morning,i sent a mail to the address she gave to me,and the spell caster assured me that i will get my wife back the next day what an amazing statement!! I never believed,so he spoke with me,and told me everything that i need to do. Then the next morning, So surprisingly, my wife who did not call me for the past seven {7}months,gave me a call to inform me that she was coming back So Amazing!! So that was how she came back that same day,with lots of love and joy,and she apologized for her mistake,and for the pain she caused me and my children. Then from that day,our relationship was now stronger than how it were before,by the help of a spell caster . So, was now stronger than how it were before,by the help of a spell caster . So, i will advice you out there to kindly visit the same website http://bravespellcaster.yolasite.com,if you are in any condition like this,or you have any problem related to “bringing your ex back. So thanks to Dr Brave for bringing back my wife,and brought great joy to my family once again.{bravespellcaster@gmail.com} , Thanks.

    Are you passing through any of these problems,

    DO YOU NEED YOUR EX BACK VERY FAST

    DON YOU WANT YOUR LOVER TO LOVE YOU AS NEVER LIKE BEFORE

    ARE YOU SUFFERING FROM A LONG TIME SICKNESS

    ARE YOU FACING FINANCIAL PROBLEMS

    ARE YOU SEEKING FOR A GOOD JOB

    DO YOU WANT TO BECOME A HOUSE OWNER

    ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A FIRST CLASS GRADE

    DO YOU WANT TO COME OUT FIRST IN YOUR EXAMS

    ARE YOU A STAR AND YOU WANT TO BE SO POPULAR TO THE WHOLE WORLD

    DO YOU WANT TO BE RICH

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    DO YOU HAVE A COMPANY OF ANY KIND AND YOU WANT IT TO EXPAND

    DO YOU WANT YOUR HUSBAND OR WIFE TO KEEP TO YOUR WORLD

    ARE YOU FACING ANY MARITAL PROBLEMS

    ARE YOU FINDING IT DIFFICULT TO GET PREGNANT FOR YOUR HUSBAND

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    ARE YOU EXPERIENCING FAILURE AND DISAPPOINTMENT IN ANY THING YOU DO.(ETC)

    If you are facing any of these problems all you just need do is to contact him immediately email ( bravespellcaster@gmail.com ),,,

  • Thanks to Dr Brave for bringing back my wife,and brought great joy to my family?

    Hello to every one out here, am here to share the unexpected miracle that happened to me three days ago, My name is Jeffrey Dowling,i live in TEXAS,USA.and I`m happily married to a lovely and caring wife,with two kids A very big problem occurred in my family seven months ago,between me and my wife so terrible that she took the case to court for a divorce she said that she never wanted to stay with me again,and that she did not love me anymore So she packed out of my house and made me and my children passed through severe pain. I tried all my possible means to get her back,after much begging,but all to no avail and she confirmed it that she has made her decision,and she never wanted to see me again. So on one evening,as i was coming back from work,i met an old friend of mine who asked of my wife So i explained every thing to her,so she told me that the only way i can get my wife back,is to visit a spell caster,because it has really worked for her too So i never believed in spell,but i had no other choice,than to follow her advice. Then she gave me the email address of the spell caster whom she visited.(bravespellcaster@gmail.com}, So the next morning,i sent a mail to the address she gave to me,and the spell caster assured me that i will get my wife back the next day what an amazing statement!! I never believed,so he spoke with me,and told me everything that i need to do. Then the next morning, So surprisingly, my wife who did not call me for the past seven {7}months,gave me a call to inform me that she was coming back So Amazing!! So that was how she came back that same day,with lots of love and joy,and she apologized for her mistake,and for the pain she caused me and my children. Then from that day,our relationship was now stronger than how it were before,by the help of a spell caster . So, was now stronger than how it were before,by the help of a spell caster . So, i will advice you out there to kindly visit the same website http://bravespellcaster.yolasite.com,if you are in any condition like this,or you have any problem related to “bringing your ex back. So thanks to Dr Brave for bringing back my wife,and brought great joy to my family once again.{bravespellcaster@gmail.com} , Thanks.

    Are you passing through any of these problems,

    DO YOU NEED YOUR EX BACK VERY FAST

    DON YOU WANT YOUR LOVER TO LOVE YOU AS NEVER LIKE BEFORE

    ARE YOU SUFFERING FROM A LONG TIME SICKNESS

    ARE YOU FACING FINANCIAL PROBLEMS

    ARE YOU SEEKING FOR A GOOD JOB

    DO YOU WANT TO BECOME A HOUSE OWNER

    ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A FIRST CLASS GRADE

    DO YOU WANT TO COME OUT FIRST IN YOUR EXAMS

    ARE YOU A STAR AND YOU WANT TO BE SO POPULAR TO THE WHOLE WORLD

    DO YOU WANT TO BE RICH

    DO YOU WANT YOUR BUSINESS TO KEEP MOVING

    DO YOU HAVE A COMPANY OF ANY KIND AND YOU WANT IT TO EXPAND

    DO YOU WANT YOUR HUSBAND OR WIFE TO KEEP TO YOUR WORLD

    ARE YOU FACING ANY MARITAL PROBLEMS

    ARE YOU FINDING IT DIFFICULT TO GET PREGNANT FOR YOUR HUSBAND

    ARE YOU EXPERIENCING MISCARRIAGES ANY TIME YOU TAKE IN

    DO YOU WANT TO COMPETE IN ANY LOTTERY GAME

    ARE YOU FACING HARDSHIP

    HAVE YOU BEEN THREATENED BY SOMEONE

    DO YOU WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN ANY THING YOU LAY YOUR HANDS ON

    IS YOUR SON OR DAUGHTER BEHAVING STRANGELY

    ARE YOU FACING WITCH CRAFT MANIPULATIONS

    DO YOU WANT TO CAST A STRONG LOVE SPELL ON YOUR GIRL OR BOY FRIEND

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  • Russia is now the sick man of Europe

  • pobinr

    The US captain that shot down an Iranian airliner in 1988 killing all 290 people on board got a medal!
    ‘Rogers remained in command of the USS Vincennes until May 27, 1989.[13] In 1990, Capt. Rogers was awarded the Legion of Merit decoration “for exceptionally meritorious conduct in the performance of outstanding service as commanding officer … from April 1987 to May 1989.” The award was given for his service as the Commanding Officer of the Vincennes, and the citation made no mention of the downing of Iran Air 655 !’

    • saffrin

      With Lockerbie being the Iranian’s response.

  • Bonkim

    But people like to talk loud about situations they have no control over and will not do anything to change.

  • saffrin

    Here’s what the EU should do; round up the council of ministers and both EU presidents of the day and beg president Putin to throw them in one of his gulags.

  • Roberta Crichton

    Standing against the injustice of plunder in no way implies that one regards advancement of the less fortunate as an unworthy cause.

  • pobinr

    As far as I’m aware the Russians didn’t shoot down MH17.
    Were there sanctions against the USA after the US Navy Vincennes shot down Iran Air Flight 655 in 1988 killing 290 people ?
    ‘Captain Rogers remained in command of the USS Vincennes until May 27, 1989.[13] In 1990, Capt. Rogers was awarded the Legion of Merit decoration “for exceptionally meritorious conduct in the performance of outstanding service as commanding officer … from April 1987 to May 1989.” The award was given for his service as the Commanding Officer of the Vincennes, and the citation made no mention of the downing of Iran Air 655 !’

  • nikko

    This is a right load of rubbish. If the Rebels shot down MH17 it is almost certainly a fatal mistake and they thought they were targeting Ukrainian war planes or troop transporters.The Russians or Rebels gain nothing from this. The real criminals are the people who thought it would be ok to route an airliner over a war zone where SAMs were being actively used after the FAA and European counterparts advised airlines not to do so.

  • Andrew Smith

    A little simplistic in its analysis. The Russian Federation may have struck out on a more “moderate” course had the West made the attempt to bind it into an international settlement from which it could have profited. BUT, Putin has a clear and deep-seated antipathy to democracy; a radical nationalist adgenda; and to a certain extent, is hostage to his Conservative Russian Orthodox support base. We often assume that other cultures nations etc. would act just like the liberal enlightened West, if only they throught about it enought / we made it worth their while. The fact that others don’t always share our values and act accordingly generates puzzlement amongst people who should know better.

    • Baron

      And the evidence for Putin’s antipathy to democracy is where?

      What the guy does is feeds on the resentment of the Russian unwashed to the treatment meted out to them after communism fell apart the same way Adolf was feeding upon the resentment of the German folk after WW1.

      It was our blaming the creed, the ideology of Nazism not the ordinary Germans for the killing fields of WW2 that has delivered more than half a century of peace we still enjoy now. But for how long with a bunch of political minnows in charge?

      • Andrew Smith

        The term “managed” democracy was coined in Putin’s circle to describe developments after 2000. The separation of the powers was curbed; executive competencies extended; opposition parties subject to judicial persecution, candidates for the presidency vetted and opposition candidates excluded. The treason law and assembly law have been tightened up considerably. Many sources say that he watched the collapse of the GDR whilst a KGB operative in Dresden and became a firm anti-democrat. Whilst that remains speculative, his record as President and Prime Minister clearly show that he is not interested in an open, pluralist and democratic system in Russia. Now that may or may not be a good or bad thing or even any of our business. But it remains a clear fact.

        • Baron

          You speak Russian? Google, get an internet TV called in Russian, the Rain, they broadcast from Moscow. you listen to them, then tell Baron what’s the equivalent outfit under the freedom of expression heading in the ‘liberal’ West.

          You, sir, live in the past when this country was indeed liberal, tolerant, fair. This past has gone, where’s democracy in the EU, ha. The new man Juncker will rule over your life more than any PM here, you voted for him? And you’re critical of Russian democracy. Arghhh

  • la catholic state

    The ‘civilised world’. What a joke! Surely you don’t mean the all-aborting, hedonistic, mindless nincompoops of the post-Christian West?!

  • Fraser Bailey

    Yes, I said to someone last night that the West’s handling of Russia since the USSR collapsed has been disastrous. But such is the quality of politicians and senior civil servants in the West these days that everything the West does will be disastrous. Get used to it.

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  • Amir

    Read my interview with Norman Lamont over the sanctions on Russia, the immigration, Europe, economy, reshuffle and Scotland:

    http://www.casualpolitics.co.uk/2014/07/lord-norman-lamont-speaks-to-casual-politics/

  • Terence Hale

    Hi,
    Britain will not start World War Three over Ukraine, David Cameron says. The first world war was started by the German William II (German: Friedrich Wilhelm Viktor Albert) who also ordered the Turks to get rid of the Armenians. At the end of the war Willi lived in exile in The Netherlands until 1941 when he saw it all happen again. Do you think The Netherlands will take Vlad?

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