Rod Liddle

Way to go, Jeremy Corbyn – root out those Jew-haters!

4 June 2016

9:00 AM

4 June 2016

9:00 AM

A long and arduous flight back from the Caucasus, but worth it nonetheless for the meaningful protest we had staged in the fragrant and lovely Georgian capital, Tbilisi. They have opened a vegan restaurant there called the Café Kiwi — an affront not just to ordinary Georgians, but to all right-thinking people, surely. A bunch of us stormed the place carrying large chunks of grilled lamb on skewers and spicy sausages, which we flung at the epicene customers, who cowered beneath their tables and were unable to fight back because their bones had been made as brittle as matchwood by a diet consisting entirely of nuts and berries.

‘Eat some meat, flaccid homosexual scum,’ we howled at them — suspecting that most if not all of the diners ‘batted for the other side’, so to speak. These people are so stupid they won’t even eat the delicious Georgian flatbread kachapuri, with its unctuous interior of melted cheese and often a fried egg sitting happily on top — which are adored by my children when I can be bothered to make them. (Children properly conceived through the offices of two legitimate heterosexual relationships, incidentally.) Vegan restaurants are springing up all over the place and populated by the usual stinking deviants. On this issue, as on so many other issues concerning normalcy and decency, London is a lost cause — but at least we might fight to preserve the proper standards in further-flung and still pristine capital cities, such as Tbilisi and Yerevan and Baku.

The Café Kiwi denounced the protest as ‘an anti-vegan provocative action’ and the work of ‘neo-Nazis’. Hmmm. I think you’ll find old Adolf would have been a contented patron of your establishment and that half of the Waffen SS were as bent as a Weimar Republic 1921 Deutschmark.

But that’s by the by. If you want to know the truth, I didn’t actually attend the protest at Café Kiwi — I just dreamed that I had. But the demo really did take place and they really did throw sausages at the vegans and accuse them of being gay or foreign or both. If only we had that sort of contretemps over here. It would make a change, no?


Our concerns are instead more righteous and serious. For example, the Labour party’s investigation into anti-Semitism within its ranks is being prosecuted with enormous rigour and probity. This much is immediately evident by Labour’s decision to reinstate party activist Jackie Walker, who had said that ‘Jews’ financed the slave trade. And then she added that black people were undergoing a holocaust right now, a consequence of horrid western imperialism, whereas the Jews weren’t, OK?

This appalling, thick-as-mince, racist hag had initially been suspended by Labour for what were clearly anti-Semitic remarks — but because she is a leading member of the Momentum cadre which took the party over with Jeremy Corbyn’s elevation to leadership, she has been given a clean bill of health. Yay, root those Jew-haters out, Jeremy!

Meanwhile, the Labour group on Birmingham City Council has appointed a chap called Waseem Zaffar to oversee equality and diversity in the city. Waseem is a Muslim and has described Israel as a ‘terrorist state’ and demanded that a local Labour MP, John Spellar, stand down because he is ‘a Zionist’, i.e. he thinks Israel has a right to exist.

Waseem, who has been bunged an MBE somewhere along the way, was apparently also a bigamist. He divorced his first wife by sending a letter to her in the post, in the time-honoured Islamic manner, saying ‘Get thee hence, besom!’ three times, although this has no legal force in our country, yet. And then he married some foxy (insofar as it was possible to tell) Islamic babe, while his first wife was still wondering what to write by way of reply. Yes, there you have the mindset of the present Labour party — the people who they believe are definitely not anti-Semitic. Jackie Walker — evil Jews ran the slave trade — and Waseem Zaffar — Israel has no right to exist.

You can expect the Labour MP Naz Shah to be cleared pretty soon, given that she has now said she is terribly sorry, up to a point, Lord Copper. Naz had said that a perfectly good solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict would be to ‘relocate’ Israel to the middle of the United States of America. ‘Problem solved!’ she tweeted. She was suspended, but don’t expect that to last very long. Vicki Kirby, another activist with a colossal IQ, was suspended for saying, among other things, that Jews had ‘big noses’. She was reinstated — and then suspended again. But she’ll be back soon too, I would reckon.

At the moment, the Labour party — led by a man who calls the deeply anti–Semitic terrorist group Hamas his ‘friends’ — has suspended perhaps 18 people in the row over anti-Semitic comments. Jeremy Corbyn has said himself that anti-Semitism is not ‘a huge problem’ within the party. Following which analysis, he then appointed the not noticeably Jewish Shami Chakrabarti to lead the investigation into anti-Semitism within the addled ranks of his Momentum supporters and Muslim councillors.

I am one of the 18 still suspended, for having attempted to explain where Labour’s anti-Semitism came from — to wit, the infantile and sometimes fascistic white liberals who comprise Momentum and loathe Israel perhaps as an adjunct to loathing the West, and from Labour’s growing Muslim membership, many of whom simply hate Jews, full stop.

It is not remotely a serious investigation. Nor could it ever be, because — as Douglas Murray has pointed out — the very top of the Labour party is now comprised of people who support Muslim terrorist attacks upon Israel and, further, equate Jews with capitalism and in particular western capitalism. Oh, and they also have big noses, of course. Perhaps we should fling sausages at them.

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  • Rik

    Well Rod,of course you are still suspended,Orwell had it bang on.
    “In a time of universal deceit-telling the truth is a revolutionary act”
    Frankly you are lucky not to have been burnt at the stake as a heretic.

    • Alexandrovich

      He still maybe, as we await the outcome of his appearance before the star chamber.

    • Rosenbaum’s Tinted Spectacles

      Suspended i.e. on one level with Livingstone. How embarrassing.

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    • Mr B J Mann

      Burnt steak?

      Heresy!

      • anonuk

        That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah!

        It’s strange how many violent deaths have been caused by the need to defend the good name of a merciful and beneficent God.

  • mammal

    It would do Rod Liddle the power of good if his provocative speech and twisted fantasies found him outside his nasty, cosmopolitan bubble and smack-bang in the middle of a life-threatening situation (preferably the wrong end of yet another one of those psychopathic Israeli bombing sorties).

    • The Wiganer

      Unfortunately, they aren’t running those psychopathic Israeli bombing sorties at the moment.

      You will have to wait for your friends in Hamas to start sneaking into Israel and randomly butchering Jewish children again, then you’ll have another chance.

      • Rambam

        “Cet animal est très méchant,
        Quand on l’attaque il se défend”.

        • anonuk

          Je ne regrette rien, comme Netanyahu a toujours dit.

      • Brian Jones

        Would that be sneaking into Israel or sneaking into Palestinian territory that Israel has occupied. You don’t have to be anti Semitic to disagree with the Israeli government’s insistence on staying in occupied territory despite several UN resolutions.

        • The Duke of Mendoza

          No, but it helps.

          Other UN resolutions are quite clear that the land belongs to Israel.

    • alfredo

      Provocative speech … We can’t have any of that, can we?

    • polidorisghost

      “(preferably the wrong end of yet another one of those psychopathic Israeli bombing sorties).”

      The Israelis are simply defending themselves.
      PS: Hint on tactics – Stop using civilians as a human shield when launching attacks on Israel.

      • Winstanley66

        Stop ocupying other people’s land?

        • polidorisghost

          Jews were there first.

        • Milano Merano

          Like Muslims have been occupying Jewish, Christian, Hindu and Buddhist lands?

          • Mr B J Mann

            And Afghanistan was “only” 50% Christian:

            The other 50% was Buddhist!!!

        • anotherjoeblogs

          Yeah, keep repeating and nod your head madrassa style.
          Even wondered that islam is a noxious foreign body and has spread like an evil disease ?

    • Mow_the_Grass

      Is that you Chelsea? (as in Manning)

      • SunnyD

        yes, it is shim

    • Milano Merano

      Isn’t it more psychopathic to keep attacking nation much stronger than yourself, knowing, that you will never ever win?

    • Wedgie Benn

      What he’s going to be in a country that wants to wipe the Jews off the planet, how about a middle class liberal going into w council estate in North London?

  • CockneyblokefromReading

    Just as an aside, why does it bother some people what other people eat? I’ve never been able to understand it.

    • Teacher

      Nobody would be bothered except that exceptionlists like vegetarians, vegans, gluten intolerants etc. all make such a fuss about it. A normal person goes to visit someone and eats what they are given gratefully and with thanks. A vegan, for example, turns up, demands special food and spends hours jawing about their superiority and the vileness of meat eaters. I suppose it is because they have no manners.

      • Alexandrovich

        I’m sure you’ll appreciate this then:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63NNuG-6-hQ

      • 9sqn

        Oh do they now. Well I must have missed something there .. or perhaps we’ve just never met.

        • Mr B J Mann

          Yes, they do!

          Did you miss Kerry McCarthy, the shadow environment (including farming) secretary, who says that ‘I really believe that meat should be treated in exactly the same way as tobacco, with public campaigns to stop people eating it,’ and that ‘Meat, dairy and egg industries cause immense suffering to more than a billion animals every year in the UK alone.’

          Not to mention:

          ‘I would rather cows’ milk was consumed by baby cows, not people. Meat is murder… which means, I suppose, milk must be manslaughter.
          ‘The meat industry is keen to convince people that farmed animals are happy — can something that is dead be happy?’

          And talking of meat is murder, how about:

          http://www.peta.org.uk/blog/morrissey-spreads-meat-free-message-tour/

          • 9sqn

            Your grouping of a cross-section of society who make a particular dietary choice into a cabal of abnormals such as you describe says far more about you than anyone else. You are quite disgusting. It is clearly you who needs a lesson in manners:

            Gluten intolerance is an unpleasant condition which can lead to serious health issues if not addressed. Would you talk of diabetics in a similar fashion?

            I don’t know very many vegans but the ones I do know have never ‘demanded’ anything, unless you equate scanning a menu or politely asking for just the vegetable course with ‘demanding’ .. much in the same way as someone with a nut intolerance or someone who doesn’t like sprouts. But then, from what I have seen here, you probably do.

            Kerry McCarthy is an MP. And shadow environment secretary no less. Well done on that one. As such, tt is her job to lecture the public. But thank you for the quote. I have not heard her say this before. And very well put it is as well. I agree with every word.

            Peta is a lobbying organisation doing what a lobbying organisation does .. lobbying. Geddit ?

          • Mr B J Mann

            I’ve been groping cross vegans and abnormals such as you?

            Ewwwwww!!!!!!!!

            Sorry if I don’t politely scan your post but I’ve got a nut intolerance and I come out in a rash if exposed to vegetables.

            Couldn’t help spotting your last line as I hit reply though:

            Aren’t PETA the lobbying organisation doing things like killing the pets handed over to it for rehoming, welcoming the spread of BSE as it hits agribusiness where it hurts and funding the defence of animal rights terrorists.

            Now I know how much respect I should show your views.

          • 9sqn

            Sooo funny. But if you wish to make an argument, do buck up and address the issue at least with a residual of intelligence. A big ask I know. (Probably too big in your case). But to give you the condescension of a reply; I am not nor have ever claimed to be, vegan. Grope that, idiot.

          • Mr B J Mann

            I don’t know why I’m bothering trying to have a discussion with a tortoise c0pulating parrot.

            Have you got your head up a whitewashed tortoise in your piccy, parrot?!

            The issue is that while the vegans you know (anecdotally) might not be hard core activists, or even proseletysers for the faith:

            The ones the rest of us are exposed to, the Ministers for the “Environment”, the heads of animal “charities” who welcome the spread of BSE and fund animal rights terrorists, the animal rights terrorists themselves, the people who attack restaurants who sell pate made from geese with self inflicted, natural, fatty liver “disease” (otherwise they’d die before they’d finish their migration) when they inflict fatty liver disease on their own cats by treating them too kindly…………..

            DO all make such a fuss about it, far more of a fuss than turning up and demanding special food and spending hours jawing about their superiority and the vileness of meat eaters!

      • JabbaPapa

        I’ve been forced into such a diet by some friends — so, I decided that if so, I’d do the cooking for everyone according to my own omnivorous taste, instead of giving them any occasion to shove tofu or whatever onto my plate.

        Gratifyingly, the vegans rather enjoyed my omnivore non-meaty cooking preferences, and frequently demanded more …

  • ObserverinMonmouth

    I have to say an excellent, witty and thought provoking article albeit a little facetious. I am glad we live in the land of free speech and do hope that some of our university occupants will learn how valuable that is.

  • CHRISTOPHER JOHN

    Liddle’s manipulative rantings lead inevitably to ‘do not trust him further than you could throw him’. He would do well to read B.Michael’s piece on the present state of Israel on the “Haaretz” web page (“Yet again the Jewish people face great danger”). A short extract reads:- “And we, the Jews, have become skinheads. Of all the glory we associated with ourselves, all that remains is a big mouth, brandished fist and endless hidden hatred, militarism, paganism and self-righteousness.”

    • polidorisghost

      He wasn’t ranting, you anti-semitic fruitcake.
      The extract you quote is an example of ranting.
      OK?

      • Mow_the_Grass

        People like the one you responding too – will always use self hating Jews like Gideon Levy and his ilk at Haaretz – to advance their cause.

  • polidorisghost

    If they don’t want you Rodney, then stop funding them.
    It isn’t rocket science, as the saying goes.

  • Malcolm Stevas

    “The Café Kiwi denounced the protest as ‘an anti-vegan provocative action’ and the work of ‘neo-Nazis’.”
    Hah! Laugh? Talk about laugh… If the supermarkets shut for a week either vegans would starve to death, or start eating one another. In either case, no great loss.

    • D Cripps

      I might eat the occasional omnivore, if push came to shove.

      • Malcolm Stevas

        You’ve probably become too weakened to try that, through your perverse diet.

        • D Cripps

          Tough luck, Malcy-baby! Physically I’m pretty fit (for a 65-year old — pic was taken almost 5 years ago). Eating you would not be my first preference, but it might be “no great loss” to the world if I did (prison would be a deterrent, on the other hand).

          • Malcolm Stevas

            You’re pretty cute but I eat a healthier diet, honey, and I’m better armed…

          • D Cripps

            I’ll give you the lead on armaments and masculine muscle…but what makes you so sure you know your diet is healthier? …You’ve not seen the pea-protein and nutritional supplements I devour…I practically rattle.

          • whatever name

            Pea protein? You can get complete protein from lentil dal with rice, or humus with bread. Or eat eggs and drink milk. Or just eat meat, the animals are already dead anyway. Regards.

            Cons: Isolated pea protein is often considered complete because it can contain the spectrum of essential amino acids. Even still, it remains deficient in certain amino acids and should not be used as a primary source of dietary protein.

          • D Cripps

            It’s not a sole source for me. Thanks for your educated input.

          • Mr B J Mann

            Sole source?

            Shoe leather ya mean?!

          • 9sqn

            Same as Kentucky Fried Chicken you mean ?

          • whatever name

            Personally I eat lots of fish. Basa has been on half price at the supermarket for the last month and I have often had that for dinner on a bed of dressed salad, with a side of oven cooked fries, with pickles and chillies. Of late I tend to do ham, onion and cheese omelette on rye bread toast for breakfast, with a glass of milk. Of course my diet changes all the time.

            I rarely do KFC. The supermarket does cooked rotary chickens for a fiver. I like to get one, once or twice a week. Beef is too lean and tough for me these days, I prefer burgers to most roasts. I dont eat steak, I like my meat cooked.

            I also like mussels in wine and garlic, lots of stuff really. I cook vegetable and bean curries and Chinese dishes. Late night comfort food for me is a dish with soy sauce, crushed chilles, garlic, ginger, some curry powder and olive oil, the rest of the ingredients are interchangeable but butter beans are a fav and only 100 calories for a carton. I like to have coc o vin or slow cooked beef or lamb shank in a jus sauce on Sundays. M and S do a jus dinner for two for a tenner.

            Hemp seeds are another source of complete protein. I used to roast them in a saucepan but they are too abrasive to the teeth, I don’t want to lose them. I like fried bean curd (tofu) soup, another complete protein, I do it with bean sprouts, soy sauce, a drop of toasted sesame oil, chillie etc, it makes a nice supper. I always cook with mineral water, it tastes much better for one thing. I drink plenty of beer though, which certainly isn’t made with spring water.

            I love vegetarian food, I just don’t see as an ethical matter and a more normal diet is just much easier, safer and richer.

          • Malcolm Stevas

            But do you shake & roll too…?

          • D Cripps

            Of course! But only to music (I am ‘seeing’ a mix of neurological disease and Irish setters rolling in cow-pats, hence this qualifying explanation).

          • Mr B J Mann

            Promise to take your dentures out first, love, eh?!

        • Sargon the bone crusher

          i like thin little veaggies!

          • Mr B J Mann

            I’m always afraid they’ll split!

      • Mr B J Mann

        You’re on!

    • 9sqn

      Pardon me, not wishing to intrude upon the sensitivities of the Speccie’s lead nutritionist, but you do appear to display a somewhat fascistic approach to what grown adults should and shouldn’t eat. How about you just mind your own F ing business. I mean, surely a vegan restaurant owner is merely cornering a market to earn an honest living. He/she/it may well dine at KFC after hours for all I care. But for the record, my gf is a vegan and a stunningly beautiful blonde Australian to boot, and all with not a brittle bone in her lovely bod.

      • Malcolm Stevas

        I’m neither a nutritionist nor a fascist, far from it, and people should be free to eat whatever they like (except other people…) without interference from the State. But IME veggies & vegans tend to proselytise and presume to offer unwanted advice to normal omnivores – as well as providing a disproportionate number of the fascistic “animal lib” loons who attempt continually to restrict other people’s liberty… So I have little patience with them.
        Pity to hear any “stunningly beautiful blonde Australian” is a vegan! The Aussies I’ve met have mostly been great people, and I associate Oz with robust good sense.

      • JabbaPapa

        Is your gf a “it” or a “he” ?

        And can you please explain how vegans have no opinion of “what grown adults should and shouldn’t eat” ?

  • Claire Stirling

    Nice to see “up to a point, Lord Copper” having an airing

  • Hippograd

    Don’t forget the way Labour ignored the “grooming” gangs in Golders Green, Rod. Not to mention the decades of rapes, murders and robberies suffered by Jewish communities in cities up and down the land.

    If only Labour cared about the Jewish community as much as it cares about the white working-class receive.

    • Winstanley66

      You need to get out more.

      • Hippograd

        I’m not the only one:

        An alleged Golders Green child s*xual exploitation victim was taken to Brighton, locked away in a room above a restaurant and made to have s*x with men for several months, a court heard. The woman, now 31, told Barnet Crown Court the abuse first started when she was around 12, living in a children’s home in the Golders Green area. At the age of around 16 or 17, the girl was taken to Brighton where she was locked in a room above a restaurant and made to have s*x with men. The Jewish Chronicle

        But did the Labour party care? Ach, not so much as a crumb. If only that poor girl had been white working-class rather than Jooish.

    • secretpeople

      I wasn’t aware that Labour did care about the white working class it was named after. Traditional Labour voters are leaving in droves.

  • Norton Folgate

    Liddle’s description of the attack on the vegan restaurant breached my safe space and forced me to confront horrifying memories of a similar assault here in east London. You look, I can’t bear to: http://bit.ly/27S8psm

  • UmUmUmUmUmUm

    Corbyn and his repugnant neo-soviet claque represent the ultimate decline of British socialism into decadence, (moral and cultural decay). You only have to look at the long arc that has seen it descend from the age of Attlee, Bevin, Bevan and the creation of the NHS to…..Jeremy Corbyn and everything he stands for.

    • Winstanley66

      Drivel.

    • Alex

      I would have thought the moral and cultural decay came when they started selling all our houses to buy-to-let landlords, all our public assets to foreign oligarchs, carpet-bombed Iraq, cut disability and working-age benefits, but what do I know?

    • anonuk

      Dave Spart- is that you?

  • anonuk

    Does this constitute an official fatwa by Jezbollah, leader of the Islington People’s Front, against the People’s Front of Islington about their “excessive” anti-Semitism?

    Oy vey, as they say.

    As vegan soap exists, why don’t the vegans use it?

    • D Cripps

      Some of us do, and the shampoo, and hair-conditioner…

      • SunnyD

        reminds me of the nuns in the bath joke… one says “where’s the soap?” and the other says “yes, it does, doesn’t it?”

        • D Cripps

          Ooch! I think that would sting!

          • 9sqn

            It does.
            ( That was a joke btw )

  • JabbaPapa

    The Labour position on N@zis and Jew-hatred is as fact-based as 1+1=47.639¾

    • Sargon the bone crusher

      Alien swine!!!
      1+1 = 28.46299!!!!!
      FAscist Tory running doggie!

  • Michael H Kenyon

    Just as Alf Garnett was a parodic comedy character some took as a role model, Corbyn seems to have over-identified with “Wolfie Smith”.

    • MikeF

      Alf Garnett wasn’t a parody – he was the personification of leftist stereotyping.

      • anonuk

        In that case he was a leftist parody.

  • JJD

    Uhh… isn’t it a bit rich, Rod, for you to be having a go at Naz Shah? She made exactly the kind of non-PC jibe you have made a career out of. It just so happened that the butt of the joke was Jewish people.

    So how come she’s anti-Semitic, but you’re not Islamophobic?

    I don’t think either of you are either of those things, by the way. But surely there’s an inconsistency in your calling her out, no?

    • Anglian Reed

      Naz Shah is an MP – as such it’s her duty to represent other people.

      Rod’s views, no doubt deliberately exaggerated for effect, are his own.

      Different standards apply.

      • JJD

        I agree. But that is not the case Rod makes.

    • TheJustCity

      No equivalence since one is racist and one (Islamophobia) is not.

      • JJD

        Last time I checked, Judaism was not a race.

        • JabbaPapa

          Islam certainly isn’t, and yet condemnation of it is “racist” and requires non-stop promotion of its “values” as if we could ever honestly adhere to them, regardless of how many keep on being murdered in their name ?

          • JJD

            People who say condemning Islam is racist are just being silly, and can be safely ignored.

    • Milano Merano

      Are Muslims who are being butchered by other Muslims ‘Islamophobic’?

      • Sargon the bone crusher

        Stockholmistan syndrome.

        • Milano Merano

          That’s the Swedish for ya’ 😉

    • Wedgie Benn

      Non PC, maybe arguing to say stuff that was true about minorities not being such a great comments, and the fact the black community has to do more with its people dealing with knife crime, putting something blatantly racist, such as Ms Shah did, Is different.

    • anonuk

      What’s wrong with being Islamophobic? I’m extremely scared of political Islam, as all Christians, Jews, non-religious (and probably most of those who claim to be unobservant or partially observant Muslims and Shia as well) should be. If you ever meet someone who claims to be following the example of the “Prophet” Mohammed in his own life- run quite fast.

      • Sargon the bone crusher

        well said; anyone who has lived in a muslim society, be it the Middle east, Asia or the Indian subcontinent would be insane NOT to be extremely islamophobic, I would have thought. Total, utter incompatibility, plus the certainty of massive violence when a majority is achieved, and ‘kill or convert’ is invoked and undertaken.

      • JJD

        Substitute whatever word you want, then, to mean “prejudiced against Muslims”. That’s the word people tend to use, though.

        • anonuk

          Prejudice against brown skin is wrong. Prejudice against a philosophy or mode of thought is perfectly OK, if it’s based on the proven undesirability of that philosophy and the likelihood that that person will deliberately seek to inflict that, or its consequences, upon others. For the record, most of McCarthy’s victims were democratic socialists or social democrats, not communists. To a degree, it was the last vestige of the Nazis’ belief that to be Jewish was to be either ultra-capitalist or Bolshevist (and in fact, just calculating the downfall of the West).

          • JJD

            McCarthy cast his net too wide, but in essence he was absolutely right, as history has proved (although it has never been politically expedient for anyone to publicly acknowledge that): there were, as he claimed, disloyal communists at the highest level of federal institutions. But that is just an aside.

            Whatever word you choose, there has to be some word for prejudice against the set of people who embrace the Islamic faith. Hatred of Islam is of course fine. Generalised hatred of its practitioners is not.

    • Derek Lambada

      If Rod had called for all Muslims in Muslim states other than Saudi Arabia to be removed to Saudi Arabia then you would have a fair comparison. Interesting that you think this qualifies as a ‘joke’.
      It’s not a ‘non-PC jibe’ to point out what Islam actually says and what Muslims actually do because of what Islam says. It’s called truth and if more people faced up to it the world would have a chance of being a much better place (particularly for Muslims).

      • JJD

        Shah was obviously not making a serious proposal. She was doing the ind of thing Rod does. Jokes with an edge.

    • The Masked Marvel

      Only it wasn’t a joke. Don’t tell fibs. Of course, she has since made one of the more thoughtful and believable apologies I’ve ever heard over this sort of thing.

      • JJD

        She was obviously joking.

        • The Masked Marvel

          She obviously didn’t believe it could possibly happen, but she obviously wasn’t joking about ending Israel and getting the Jews out.

          • JJD

            Yes, that’s just about how I see it too.

  • SunnyD

    totally off topic but it’s refreshing to be able to read below the line comments under a Rod Liddle piece that hasn’t been hijacked and thrown onto a tangent by telemachus.

    • Anglian Reed

      Shhh. Don’t invoke.

      • SunnyD

        here’s hoping he’s been waylaid by someone with all the best intentions

    • artemis in france

      He couldn’t be on holiday, could he? No, that’d be too bourgeois.

  • Scradje

    You can make khachapuri Rod? Impressive! Very pleasant accompanied by a bottle of Saperavi,

  • nanumaga

    Excellent offensive stuff Rod. I’m guessing that the chances of you landing a highly paid column in The Guardian are slightly higher than Ms Shakrabati sweeping the Labour Party’s Augean stables. Her report may be dubbed ‘Momentum’s answer to Chilcot’ – coming to a newspaper near you after the 2020 General Election.

    • anonuk

      I’m still waiting for the Chilcot Report into the Boer War. Any day now…

  • Dr Bock

    I’d love to read Baroness Royall’s inquiry into Labour racism, for what I assume to be the stupendously twisted and outre manner in which a woman of her background and politics manages to find ‘not-racism’. It’s like asking Matthew Hopkins to find not witches. So much dark irony, either the party which swept into power way back in 1997 on accusations of institutional racism and which defines that term so broadly as to divest it of any real meaning actually believes that definition and therefore is institutionally anti-Semitic/racist or it isn’t, in which case the term as they define it has no real meaning and is used as a tool of social control against those they dislike, like, presumably, Jews, the English, Hindus, etc.

    • Alex

      Or maybe the option you didn’t consider: that the Labour Party isn’t actually anti-Semitic at all, despite the rabid media frenzy. Indeed it was very recently run by a Jew who was splashed on the front of the Sun for not eating a bacon sandwich properly, but I doubt you cared about anti-Semitism then.

      • Dr Bock

        I think the point the Sun was trying to make was pillorying Ed Miliband as a bit of an odd ball, eating a sandwich oddly, yes, which happened to be a bacon one, not everything is a coded, racist message. I strongly doubt anyone at The Sun thought he shouldn’t be prime minister because he happened to be Jewish. That is materially different to a Labour politician of all people looking at behaviour in parts of the Labour party and finding ‘not-racism’. Nor am I denying that the far-right is anti-Semitic, but anti-Semitism in its modern guise is as much of a far-left problem and, unfortunately, the Labour party has been entered by people who hold those views.

        • Alex

          No, not everything is a coded message, although I certainly wouldn’t have run a headline like that knowing that Miliband was an ethnic Jew. Not everything is a coded message, which is why I wonder at the twists and turns some people have to make to call this or that opinion anti-Semitic. I don’t doubt there are anti-Semites in all of the main political parties.

          It’s funny that we are being asked by the British media, which ranges from hard right to centre-left, to focus on one particular one of those parties isn’t it? And in fact on the party whose election of a Jewish leader might have led one to suspect that anti-Semitism was not a particular problem among them.

          • Dr Bock

            Not really, I think you haven’t considered a number of factors, mainly the change in the nature of the Labour party’s membership over the past decade, with Miliband and Corbyn elected under different systems, the entryism which helped buttress the latter’s election, the hysteria of much of the far left, etc, and that while other parties may have that fringe element, certainly the Lib Dems do, Jenny Tong, David Ward, etc, none of them are led by someone who is at least pusillanimous in the face of those attitudes if not sympathetic to them, and who could possibly end up prime minister.

          • Alex

            Would that be the same pusillanimity with which Corbyn commissioned his inquest into anti-Semitism within the Labour Party? As opposed to the unflappable resolve of all those Labour, Conservative and other leaders who have tackled this in the past.

          • Dr Bock

            You say tomato/his inquest, I say tomato/grudgingly allowed inquiry, #alsoincludingALLOTHERFORMSOFRACISM, and you also seek to elide Labour with a political party that has never had that problem to anywhere near the same extent, you could have quite an involved discussion about English anti-Semitism in the upper classes prior to universal suffrage, but that only really serves as an historical curiosity, given the scale and nature of it, and is not comparable to the type of anti-Semitism present in parts of the Labour party.

          • Alex

            As I understand your contention it is that the Labour leader is now chosen by the motley collection of freaks, among them myself, who are weird enough to join the Labour Party, and this has allowed radical lefties with off-the-wall obsessions, among them the anti-Semitism we know is quite prominent in those circles, to take over.

            Despite the tone of media reports it is worth noting that Corbyn won the election with all classes of Labour membership and not just the fly-by-night £3 entryists.

            I have never seen anything at all to suggest that Corbyn is anti-Semitic or represents an anti-Semitic constituency in the Labour membership/parliamentary party. It is true that he makes very robust criticisms of the state of Israel and favours a dialogue with the militant Hamas, but I hope we can be grown-up enough to tell the difference between this and anti-Semitism and at least give critics of Israel the benefit of the doubt until they demonstrate otherwise.

          • Milano Merano

            ‘critics of Israel’ = appeasing spineless grovelling cowards who ‘criticise’ those, who won’t cut off their empty heads or blow them up

          • Dr Bock

            I have never used that term, have spoken of elements of the Labour party, I would also allow for the fact that even had the leadership contest been held under the old rules Corbyn probably would have won, having won 49% of the party membership on the first round, if memory serves, his mandate would have just been less commanding, if he’d won just over 50% on, more likely, given that I can’t imagine many Liz Kendall supporters backing him, the third or fourth round. As for Corbyn’s personal conduct, you might seek to compare Tony Blair’s relations with senior Palestinian figures as the representative of the quad in the middle east with Corbyn’s, but I wouldn’t necessarily buy that, the former engaging in a recognised diplomatic role, Corbyn as backbencher palling around with those whom we should probably take at their word vis the destruction of Israel, and being close to/letting back in too many whose attitudes on this count are questionable. It’s possible the man is sincere in his position on this issue, but he does seem to be enabling some rather ghastly and questionable people on the matter, in which case, given that sincerity, then in a sense akin to Nye Bevan lambasting Eden over Suez he is too stupid to be leader of the opposition.

          • Alex

            By enabling ghastly and questionable people I presume you mean talking to Hamas. It is of course impossible to know what Corbyn thinks. Tony Blair had the good fortune of being able to deal with the secularists Fatah. Corbyn may like it or not like it but the fact is that Hamas are in power in Gaza. If you want to solve the conflict you have to talk to them rather than pretend they don’t exist, which seems to be the consensus position at present. Hamas have now held power for ten years and so it doesn’t look like starving them out is going to work. I’m no diplomat so I don’t know what is best, but what I do know is it’s a bit preposterous for people to be screaming for Corbyn’s anti-Semitic head on a platter just because he favours the latter approach.

            It would be nice if all sides could be sincere and be assumed to be sincere because the whole debate has for some decades been caught up in all this conspiratorial hysteria where people who take a certain position are automatically assumed to be part of an evil cabal of head-chopping anti-Semites (see the replies from Milano Merano to me) rather than just someone with a sensible opinion and indeed no connection to any Jews or Muslims or anyone.

            Corbyn may be too stupid to be party leader but then again people used to say Miliband was too clever: ironically for this debate the right-wing newspapers now seeing anti–Semitism in everything Corbynites do was taking the p-ss out of Miliband at that time for being “North London intelligentsia”.

          • Dr Bock

            No, I meant Labour people, of perhaps more recent vintage, who hold anti-Semitic views. I think any capacity we have to influence Hamas is necessarily circumscribed, if they wish to govern Gaza as a hellhole it shouldn’t be incumbent on us to underwrite those delusions, via whatever aid we or the EU funnels to them; conversely if Hamas showed any inclination to embrace an acceptable mode of modernity we should do our bit to help them, but this seems unlikely; admittedly I think that, at best, problems can be ameliorated rather than solved.

          • Alex

            I have no solution, and agree Hamas should not be rewarded for barbarity and violence. However I reiterate the point that ten years of refusing to engage with them doesn’t seem to have made any difference, they are still there as strong as ever. By “not underwriting anything” we might say we are actually passively underwriting the continuation of violence in Gaza.

            This is of course not dissimilar to Northern Ireland, where as we know Corbyn was also calling for us to talk to the bad guys ten or twenty years before we did it and more or less solved things.

          • Old men plant trees

            Alex. If people believe you have a problem you do. I think you mistake a political stance for absolute moral superiority. To delude yourself that better people have the right to impose a better way is actually a perversion of morality, truth and politics as you set out by denying choice to others.
            This problem of moral absolutism leads one to unquestioning obedience. I have no doubt The Labour Party was not anti-Semitic. I do doubt the influx of poor, conservative, rural Muslim Labour voters share this neutrality. You must learn that no side is perfect and some comrades are wrong.
            When Jeremy defends the EU on the basis it introduces laws the people don’t want he is wrong. When saying Labour cannot be guilty of anti-Semitism you are incorrect. Once you ignore a problem it becomes your problem. Doubt is the best friend any of us can have.

      • JabbaPapa

        a Jew who was splashed on the front of the Sun for not eating a bacon sandwich properly

        Was it kosher bacon ?

      • Mr B J Mann

        Didn’t they get rid of him?!

        • Alex

          No, the party was unified behind him for five years (especially in the wake of defeat this is hard to do) and he resigned of his own accord the morning after the election. There was idle talk of a coup to replace him with Alan Johnson in autumn 2014 (despite AJ not wanting to) but this was from the right of the party, as it is against Corbyn.

          • Mr B J Mann

            So they insisted he stayed on and wouldn’t take no for an answer?!

          • Alex

            No, why would they? Is anyone who doesn’t insist on having a Jewish person in charge regardless of that person’s personal wishes an anti-Semite now?

            What you describe is pretty much what UKIP did with Farage though, remember that ridiculous un-resignation?

          • Mr B J Mann

            And is everyone who temporarily backs a Jewish leader a Zionist?!

            It was you who was trying to make out that his status as party leader proved the whole party was non anti-Semitic.

            Whereas it’s obvious that in any party there are competing factions and the fact that one faction got him into the leadership position for a time doesn’t prove that another, or even all the other, factions aren’t anti-Semitic.

          • Alex

            No just that it is very difficult to contend that the Labour Party suddenly has a particularly bad anti-Semitism problem when until last year it had a Jewish leader supported in a majority and without any party splits. It looks far more like a rather desperate attempt to smear, discredit and disempower the Corbynite faction.

          • Mr B J Mann

            EH?!

            You might as well “argue” that the Tories (or Labour) don’t have a bad Eurosceptic problem because they have a Remain supporting leader.

            Or that Labour doesn’t have an anti Corbyn faction problem because it has Corbyn as a leader?!?!?!?!?!

          • Alex

            Labour doesn’t really have an anti-Corbyn problem. Most of the stories in the press come from the same group of about a dozen disaffected Blairites, and of course the press from the Guardian to the Mail is happy to amplify it.

            We will soon see I think just how bad the Tories’ Eurosceptic (Europhobe thanks, even I am a Eurosceptic!) problem is. If it is enough to unseat the leader then it is patently “strong” where any Labour anti-Semitism was “weak” (i.e. it was never even on Miliband’s radar).

          • Mr B J Mann

            Miliband’s radar?!?!?!

            Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • artemis in france

        Ed isn’t a real Jew, though. I bet he never thinks of himself that way and certainly doesn’t identify with Israel. Another Kaufman.

        • Alex

          I don’t see why one should have to identify with Israel to be a Jew: I am sure plenty of Jews are highly critical of the political culture there at least, although I would guess it’s rare to find a Jew who isn’t a Zionist. Still, Miliband is probably a Zionist and so is Corbyn: they believe, like most right-thinking people, that a substantial Jewish state should exist in the Levant. It’s just that they also think a bit of it should go to the Palestinians, which really seems fair enough to me and is I think the more widespread view.

          I accept completely that Miliband doesn’t think of himself as a Jew. I do however think anti-Semites would think of him as a Jew, which is why I used him to contest the notion of widespread anti-Semitism in Labout.

      • D J

        Always reasonable to entertain the possibility…but no I have heard too much of it from Labour people first hand who felt safe to say what they wanted about Jews because they knew I was not Jewish.

      • Brigantian

        Judaism is a religion not a race. If you renounce the religion you are no longer a Jew. Ed Miliband was trying to do the same as lapsed Roman Catholics and use his ancestry to gain sympathy while at the same time mocking the faith his ancestors espoused.

        • Alex

          Actually I can’t remember Miliband ever once mentioning it. Despite being politically engaged I wasn’t aware he was of Jewish descent until very soon before the 2015 election. It’s no surprise he didn’t mention it because it had absolutely no bearing on any of his policy positions. This is in contrast for example to Iain Duncan Smith, who was all too happy to let us know he was doing God’s work killing off all those disabled people.

          You seem to know little about Judaism, which is an ethnic religion in contrast to the proselytising Christianity and Islam. It spreads by matrilineal descent rather than by conversion. Crucially for the issue of whether the non-practising but technically Jewish Miliband is politically speaking “a Jew”, I don’t think anti-Semites down the ages are particularly concerned with Jewish religious practice or morals (interestingly, unlike Islamophobes), it is much more about the extended kinship networks with which they suppose Jews gain influence. Therefore in the context of whatever debate exists in politics about Judaism, the Jewish community and anti-Semitism, Miliband is “a Jew”. The salient dimension is ethnicity, or we might better say descent, rather than religion.

    • gcowks

      The ideal outcome for the current leadership would be to expunge a few Blairites for ‘Islamophobia’ to demonstrate their anti-racist credentials; just watch it happen.

      • Dr Bock

        That does appear to be what many of those people are like.

      • MikeF

        I think they may be shaping up to do that with Rod even though he is more of a Bevanite than a Blairite – but then retaining some regard for the old ‘white working class’ is probably an even more heinous deviation in their eyes.

  • Winstanley66

    Smug, middle-class, middle-brow, reactionary dog whistle slop dished out by the Spectator.
    Ugh.

    • Dr Bock

      You’re right, people need to stop dog-whistling those philo-Semites who have a problem with those ghastly people, I mean, wonderful people who hate the Jews, I see that now. If only they weren’t so subtle about it more people would twig what’s going on here.

    • Wedgie Benn

      Liddle middle class, and those who run the Labour Party like Seamus Milne Andrew Fisher, Lady nugee, are working class.

      • Mr B J Mann

        Eh?

        Were you being sarcastic?!

        Lady Nugee, who sent her children to selective schools, is a barrister, wife of a judge, and daughter of a teacher/ Mayor and a barrister/ Visiting Professor at King’s College London/ consultant for NATO/ United Nations Assistant Secretary General.

        Milne is the son of former BBC Director General and an Oxbridge educated actress. He attended Winchester College, read Philosophy, Politics and Economics at Balliol College, Oxford, and then Economics at Birkbeck College, London University. He’s married to the director of an advertising firm and their kids went to a grammar school.

        • Wedgie Benn

          🙂

          • Mr B J Mann

            So what’s fisher’s back story?

        • Wedgie Benn

          Yes sarcastic, 😉

      • rosebery

        Having a laugh, are we? Top trolling, from the handle right through the comment. Two are top-drawer champagne socialists and the other is a token young polemicist who has, nonetheless, followed the time honoured short cut into senior politcs though the ‘adviser’ route.

        • Wedgie Benn

          😉

    • JabbaPapa

      middle-brow

      Is this a reference to some particular cognitive functions that you despise, or is it a broader comment proposing the general censorship of all disagreement with trendy crypto-Trotsykite consumerist Marxism ?

    • D J

      A proper Winstanley built the Eddystone lighthouse.
      Maybe your generation prefers Edstones?

      • rosebery

        Very droll, if a little clunky.

    • The Masked Marvel

      Oh, dear, don’t call Rod ‘middle class’. He’d never live it down at Millwall supporters’ gatherings.

  • Bluesman_1

    Applause, applause citizen.

  • Morris Traveller

    Get ’em told Rod. Not like they’ll listen, of course, but these deluded fools who are obsessed by Palestine are in league with some extremely nasty Fascists and the Labour Party has now ceased to be a serious contender for office.

  • Toltec

    Livingstone had nothing on this one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vs1eR7hsT8

  • Wedgie Benn

    And the hard left ,desperate to get so called anti capitalist Muslim voters are prepared to run a blind eye to anti Smeticism, sexism, homophobia,violence

    • Sargon the bone crusher

      And the rape of kuffar girls across the country

  • Frank

    Rod, it is always helpful to be reminded of just how dire are the murkier depths of the Labour Party. The only downside is that it makes the (currently pretty repellent) Conservative Party look slightly attractive. Perhaps the post 23 June Conservative Party will be more palatable?

    • Sargon the bone crusher

      Let’s hope so.

  • Tom Cullem

    Isn’t it wonderful how Labour are anxious for us to stay in the EU so we don’t repeat the mistakes of the 20th century – except, of course, for that one huge glaring 1500 year old European issue writ large at the gates of Auschwitz?

  • Hard Little Machine

    Just so we’re clear. Pogroms in Britain inside of 18 months. Bank on it.

    • Sargon the bone crusher

      Only if the general populaiton has no guts and no decency.

      • Brigantian

        If Syria & Iraq are anything to go by they will be literally gutless.

      • rosebery

        Which, in general, it does not.

  • Sargon the bone crusher

    WORDS CANNOT EXPRESS MY CONTEMPT AND LOATHING FOR CORBYN, THE SCUM WHO WORK WITH HIM, AND THE CORRUPTED LABOUR PARTY.
    As for the spineless Labour MPs who disagree with everything he says, but who say nothing and take the salary – they should go to prison for fraud on society.
    The boundary commission and the split in Scotland and wales makes, thank God, extremely unlikely that the disgusting entity will ever again form a maladministration.
    As for Brown.
    As for Blair
    Your putrid plans fall apart in from of your eyes! Wonderful!.

    • Ridcully

      So can we put you down as an “undecided” then?

    • anonuk

      The Tory Party isn’t much better off. They only won outright because Miliband was such a terrible candidate for PM and their expenses… well, let’s just say that would be sub judice.

      Labour needs to drop the identity politics associated with bodies such as Liberty, which have resulted in political and personal ties to both Irish and Muslim terrorists. Remember, 30 years ago, if it hadn’t been for Jack Dromey, the Labour Party might well have found themselves campaigning officially in favour of the “rights” of child molesters. Who wants to support a party which would ever have considered such a step?

  • sebastian2

    “He divorced his first wife by sending a letter to her in the post, in the time-honoured Islamic manner,…”

    Is this an instance of a sharia “benefit” that Theresa May enthused about recently?

  • It’s like one of those drunks in the street shouting random abuse at passers-by.

  • Andy Castor

    I think it’s the first time I have delved into the “Spectator” comments section.

    Ye Gods it is a repellent and foul smelling drain in here, neck deep in bigotry and hate.
    Enjoy the rest of your lives – I can see you have *no* intention of doing that. 🙂

    • Trailblazer10

      You won’t be missed.

      • MikeF

        Even if he was noticed.

    • Son_of_Casandra

      Do you think that Labour trying to whitewash the breathtaking levels of antisemitism it now harbours, is something that should be tolerated?

      • Cobbett

        It’s called free speech…don’t like it? I hear N Korea is the place for you.

        • Son_of_Casandra

          Just the antisemitism that people like you are so fond to. N@zi Germany would clearly be the place for you.

          • Cobbett

            Idiot.

          • Son_of_Casandra

            Cretin!

          • Cobbett

            ooooh….I’m really hurt.

          • Son_of_Casandra

            No you’re really thick and an apologist for vicious antisemites.

          • Cobbett

            And your proof is…?

          • Son_of_Casandra

            Trying to make out that this sort of thing is tolerable under some imaginary concept of free speech. Incitement to harm people is not free speech, nor is it tolerable. No doubt you think the N@zis should have had their free speech tolerated.

    • ScubaDynamo

      If only all the comments on here were as positive as your contribution huh?

  • mark

    Check out what filth gallow way is, another one of conbyns mates.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whhgPaz8w70
    The channel its on has a lot more on him.

  • mark

    Moment of truth – Pat Condell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFt-pRIvL9E
    Brexit the full movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0
    LAST CHANCE FOR DEMOCRACY

  • Mara Naile-Akim

    Jackie Walker dared to suggest that some of the Jews financed the slave trade

    the funny thing is, she is Jewish. Is she not allowed to ask questions about her own history?

    • The Masked Marvel

      It was a bit strong than merely ‘some’ financed, dear. And she’s allowed to ask questions, but not spread falsehood and blood libel. Of course, you’ll see it all as speaking truth to power, so enjoy.

    • Brigantian

      It is an awkward fact, but Jews like British people, and like Africans, have been both slave traders and slaves.

    • Karen Galber

      she is not Jewish. Her father was Jewish and not her mother . Therefore she is not Jewish

  • The Masked Marvel

    Following which analysis, he then appointed the not noticeably Jewish Shami Chakrabarti to lead the investigation into anti-Semitism within the addled ranks of his Momentum supporters and Muslim councillors.

    That’s not even the full, sordid story, Rod. Universal Shami is also tasked with investigating Islmaophobia and racism within the Labour party. So their problem with Jews is watered down from the start. That’s why you were suspended. They need to make an example of Islmaophobic racists like yourself, to prove to membership and voters it’s more than just a witch hunt to appease Jewish donors.

    Perhaps someone should run a pool so people can bet on who will be restored to personhood: Rod Liddle or people would like Israel dismantled and Jews removed from polite society.

  • alberto

    Rod, remember your own tv documentary some years ago? Y’know, where Israeli Jews forced you to stand for one hour at a checkpoint in the blazing sun while sniggering orthodox strolled through unchallenged mocking you in thick Brooklyn accents? Fortunately your Palestinian mate for the day kept up the good humour and then treated you to wonderful meal with his family in his own settler besieged home.

    Now you have a new job as a shabbos goy and I suspect all that has been ‘forgotten’. How much do they pay you incidentally?

    • The Masked Marvel

      How much do Hamas pay you?

      • alberto

        6 million shekels at the last count.

        • Milano Merano

          and you ungrateful parasite still hate them??

          • alberto

            Oy Vey, such anger already.

          • Milano Merano

            Not at all, just calling you what you are.

        • The Masked Marvel

          Hamas don’t deal in filthy Jewish money. Only US dollars.

        • Cobbett

          A fiver isn’t that?

      • Cobbett

        Isn’t that what you spread on bread?

  • alberto

    “Labour’s growing Muslim membership, many of whom simply hate Jews, full stop.”

    Thank God that hatred has only ever been confined to Muslims so we can be sure it has nothing to with Jews themselves…. 2,000 years of blemish free European history backs that up.

    • Milano Merano

      feg off to Gaza, they will love you there, until they’ll teach you how to fly

      • alberto

        Can’t wait until Iran teaches you to ‘fly’.

        • Mow_the_Grass

          Hey muslim/lover – your Iran will be reduced to glass.
          Better they stick to old technologies like carpet weaving

          • alberto

            Sorry mo’ but your glorious leader’s last attempt to start WW3 failed when even the most subservient of western leaders told Nutandyahoo to get stuffed and bomb Iran himself… which, being the ultimate coward he singularly failed to do.

            Kissinger gave the Jews-only state just 10 years… maybe he was feeling optimistic.

          • Mow_the_Grass

            Jews only state – has been alive and thriving for 68 yrs – and will be here when all your muslim friends have destroyed each other – including your best buddies in Iran.
            On that issue – suggest you take note of what Trump/Clinton have to say on that matter.
            In the event of a nuclear weapon threat in the ME by your buddies in Iran – Israel would have to first shoulder the US out of the way – because a nuclear armed Iran would represent a fundamental threat to that country – first and foremost.
            Suggest you do a lil background reading on B Netanyahu (thats how adults not kiddies spell the name) – more especially a unit known a Sayaret Maktal (you may learn something)
            Although in your case – maybe not

          • alberto

            68 years? My, my, that’s just a little longer than the Archers. And we all know that’s going to live for Thousand Years… don’t we?

            Enjoy the next millennium.

          • Milano Merano

            We shall see where Britain and the rest of Islamophile Europe will be in 68 years 😉

          • alberto

            Somehow I doubt you and your settler brethren will be seeing anything in ten years time.

          • Milano Merano

            Yeah yeah, since Israel’s creation you turds have been declaring her annihilation. What’s taking you so long? Too busy slaughtering Christians and your own?

          • alberto

            68 years and you now you think you’ve made it.

            He he hee….

          • There is something wrong with you old chap. I’m no fan of Islam, especially the radical sort, but if someone on here called you, ‘Jew lover’, you’d choke. The fact that you use the term ‘Muslim lover’ as a term of abuse, implies a contempt for the whole ‘species’. That you can’t see that your hatred and loathing, irrespective of personal character of a billion people shows that you are just a horrible perverted mirror image of the SS. My principle is to judge people and decide if I despise them based on their personal character and actions, not on some other attribution such as their nominal religious label.

          • Mow_the_Grass

            Listen ‘pal/ette’ – when somebody ie a jewhating fascist waives a flag for Iran, a country pledged to the destruction of mine – then ‘pal/ette’ all options are on the table in terms of comment etc.
            Now if this offends you – then butt out.

          • What an arass…. I spelled it wrong so it didn’t get censored.

          • Milano Merano

            There are a lot of reason to like Jews.
            Name me 1 reason to like muslims:

          • Let me say first of all that I am no fan of the belief system that Muslims revere.

            However, whenever I come across a remark made by someone who speaks of any racial, religious or political class as if they were all the same, as you just did there, I know I am dealing with an uneducated fool. I don’t like any group in general; groups are made up of individuals, some of whom may be likeable or may be worthy of contempt, depending upon their personal behaviour. Only a complete a nu s would have posted the remark that you just did. Therefore I dismiss you with utter contempt.

          • Milano Merano

            so nuffin’ huh? lol

        • Milano Merano

          Make no mistake you atrociously primitive turd: as soon as Iran even tries pressing that button, the entire region will be pulverised. Israelis will take everyone down with them!! And your leaders know that, that’s why they concentrate on slaughtering their own.
          If you think that Jews will go quietly into gas chambers again, then you’re more inbred than you come across.

          • alberto

            I thought it was ovens? Never mind, you’ll get the story straight one day.

  • evad666

    Way to Go Jeremy, and boy does he have a way to go.
    Having a commie for a communications officer who actually works for Langley no that is priceless.

  • paulthorgan

    What no-one seems to be wondering is exactly why Shami Chakrabarti got herself involved with this motley bunch of bigots.

    Unless she sees herself as becoming a Labour MP at some stage. Then it all makes sense.

    • Brigantian

      More likely that she sees herself as a Bodhisattva given her expectation to be worshipped.

    • Suzy61

      Bingo.

    • MikeF

      All the indications are she shares much of their general mindset.

  • Brigantian

    There is a very disturbing trend in the EU to permit certain forms of racism, for example against Roma or Gypsys, while treating others as major crimes. Corbyn cannot be blamed for inheriting a Labour Party whose commitment to the European cause has left it totally confused. Ed Miliband trying to eat a bacon sandwich and then re-write the 10 commandments being the ultimate example. When any organisation forgets why the modern state of Israel came into existence they are not only denying the holocaust but all the pogroms that preceded it. When they rant on about Jewish bankers and ignore the Jewish violinists, tailors, doctors and scientists, they are perpetrating the same racist lies as Adolf Hitler. That we are not allowed to point the finger at Muslim demigods who maintain rule by terror or report Muslim terrorists to the police without being accused of Islamophobia says all we need to know.

  • Elspeth Nicol

    Good to see lots of rational debate in the comments, not.

  • alberto

    from this mornings Telegraph (now komment frei), Angela Epstein “You see we Jews may warrant many descriptions – but one thing we’re not is intimidating. We don’t blow up buses or plant bombs in municipal areas, regardless of the provocation. Nor do we marshal the name of the Almighty in order to justify vapourising innocent civilians”

    Try telling that to the women and children of Gaza.

    • Toltec
    • Mow_the_Grass

      Your women and children in Gaza – are mere human shields to their leaders ie Hamas.
      They need to take this up with their boss.
      And of course their bosses ie Hamas need to quit building tunnels into Israel – as well as desist from firing Grad/Katusha rockets into that country.
      Do this – and they are free to go about their business.
      Simple – even for an idiot to comprehend.

      • alberto

        That’s correct, the goyim aren’t human beings after all, they’re merely ‘human shields’.

        We get it mo’.

        • Mow_the_Grass

          Thanks for confirming it for me – papist.
          That’s what you are isn’t it.
          Certainly before you blocked your profile.
          Don’t know that there are still any xtians in Gaza – so you might be batting for nought.
          Gonna figure you from one of those catholic south/central Americans – who have a confused association based on skin colour ie palestinians non white like me vs Israelis ‘white’
          Thats what its about ‘pal/ette’ – ain’t it.
          Just a racial thing.
          In truth you could’nt give a ratsass about the palestinians who are overwhelmingly muslim – a religion which is killing off your xtian brethern in numbers – wherever/whenever they find them.

          • alberto

            Are you trying to hint that you killed our Lord?

          • JabbaPapa

            crikey, you’re a self-“important” moron …

        • Milano Merano

          Hey, big proud goy, where were you during 20 years of Rotherham?
          Do you only ‘criticise’ those who won’t cut off your empty head and mass rape your daughters?

          • alberto

            Must remember: never criticise them, that’s antisemitic.

      • victor67

        Maybe they should be allowed to return to their homes and villages that their relatives were removed from in 1948. If it happened to my family I think I might try and resist the forces who did this. Wouldn’t you?

        • Graham B

          Maybe their leaders shouldn’t have started a genocidal war against the Jews in 1947 because they couldn’t accept Jews living amongst them. Then they wouldn’t have had to flee their villages and there could have beenpeace between the two peoples.

          • Mow_the_Grass

            The Arabs who stayed when their compatriots in the surrounding Arab states urged them to leave – so that they could have a clear field of fire when they attempted to destroy the state of Israel the first time – now represent twenty percent of the Israeli population and have that same representation in the Knesset/parliament.
            One of the few if only places in the ME where Arabs can enjoy true democracy.

          • victor67

            Interesting take on resisting European colonial settlers trying to ethnically cleanse you from you homeland and then offer half of what was already yours.
            That’s Chutzpah for you.

          • Milano Merano

            Turds like you just don’t want Jews to live anywhere, admit it.
            You don’t want Jews to live in Europe, where they were gassed, and you don’t want Jews to live in Israel, where they escaped to.
            Well, tuff ttitties for you mate. Tides have turned, now it’ll be your turn to cry, with all your lovely imports, and you can cry me a river, the Jordan river.

          • victor67

            I don’t have a problem with Jews living anywhere including Israel.
            I do have a problem with the ongoing dispropriation and persecution of the Palestinians.

        • Milano Merano

          maybe not

    • Milano Merano

      you are an embarrassment

      • victor67

        Are you Avigdor Lieberman the Moldovian racist settler?

        • Milano Merano

          Is he Egyptian?

          • victor67

            He is the Israeli defence minister and he is the only Government minister to live on someone else is land.

          • Milano Merano

            Did Jews originate in China? Brazil? Russia?
            Ever heard of archeology? History? Anthropology?
            Don’t bother answering, you’re an imbecile and Israel isn’t going anywhere.
            It didn’t go anywhere when it did not have nukes, and was attacked from all sides by Arabs outnumbering them 2000:1 …

      • alberto

        That’s nothing, the hillside settlement’s sewage outlets normally reign down directly on the indigenous people living below (or goyim as you like to call them)

    • Jacobi

      You could also tell the women of Gaza to tell their men-folk not to fire thousands of rockets indiscriminately into Israel designed to kill and terrorise men, women, and children.

      On second thought you’d better not. We don’t want the Muslim women of Gaza to be beaten up and even killed by their men-folk for even thinking such thoughts?

      • alberto

        how many did they kill out of interest (the Israelis slaughtered 2,000 by the way)

        • Jacobi

          Israelis killed Muslim terrorists who had the intent to kill indiscriminately. Therefore therefor their actions were justified.

          The Gazan Muslim terrorists tried to kill indiscriminately, military, civilians, men, women and children. Their action was wrong.

          Numbers simply indicate how much more discriminating the state of Israel is.

          • alberto

            500 children murdered – yes that really is an example of their ‘discrimination’.

          • Jacobi

            Where do you get your statistics from. Source please. How do you define a child? Definition please. Murder requires intent. The Israelis do not kill civilians with intent. If civilians, and why discriminate on age, were killed as a result of Muslim terrorists deliberately firing from civilian areas to create civilian deaths for propaganda purposes, a technique all Muslim terrorist groups use, then they are the murderers.
            Now if you wish to continue please define your terms first.

          • alberto

            When you decide drop a GPS guided missile on residential apartments you are a psychopathic killer. Which defines the Israeli mentality precisely.

            And sorry, but I don’t dance to the hasbara’s tune so you can just sit and wait all night for me to obey your pointless demands Jack.

          • Jacobi

            As I expected. No stats, no definitions no logic no rationality. Only rhetoric. And what is more I’m sure you haven’t dared tell the Gazan women to suggest to their menfolk they stop murdering.
            No point in speaking to such as you.
            OUT!

  • Marcus

    There’s no reason a Jewish person has to investigate anti-semitism.
    Awful awful cretinous incompetent woman that she is.

  • GreatBritishTaxpayer

    I’m getting incredibly bored of this cringeworthy right-wing political correctness that Rod Liddle is espousing. Jews are becoming to conservatives what Muslims are to the left. Stop all this mollycoddling and getting offended on their behalf.

    • alberto

      why? We owe them everything don’t we?

    • Itinerant

      It doesn’t need to be about the Jews necessarily, they’re merely the device that reveals the hypocrisy of the ‘anti-Semitic and other forms of racism’ stance of the Labour party.

      The same ‘anti-racism’ that has proved so effective, vilifying dissent to their agendas.

      So I would imagine there’s an element of schadenfreude but I can’t help feeling it is free speech that loses in all of this.

      • GreatBritishTaxpayer

        Absolutely, It’s a reactionary phenomenon. And you are quite correct on the issue of free speech – we already know its incompatible with political correctness.

    • Are You Sure

      There are 250k Jews in the UK and around 5m Muslims.

      You cannot equate the two because, in electoral terms, the Jewish community is largely irrelevant, whereas the muslim community is clearly not.

    • JabbaPapa

      Denouncing Labour’s stupendous hypocrisy has nothing to do with the Jews, who are only concerned in this argument because they are the focus of the Labour doublethink.

    • David Beard

      Jews are becoming to conservatives what Muslims are to the left. Stop all this mollycoddling and getting offended on their behalf.

      Good way of putting it. Why should Jews, Muslims, or any religious sect be above criticism.

    • Rob74

      There is no such thing as right wing political correctness.

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  • Are You Sure

    When Livingstone gets reinstated you’ll know that it is official.

    Labour are finished.
    Kaput.
    They are an ex-party.

    • JabbaPapa

      That’s what happened to the French Communist Party in the 1980s …

  • Jonathan Tedd

    Yep Labour beyond parody. Remainers win (just) and UKIP win the the next GE.

  • Michael W

    Is Israel planing a summer offensive this year? i cant help but feel that the critics are being silenced in advance of something. Anyway, for truthful insight into presumed anti semitism and the nullification of criticism of Israel one should read Alain Badiou et al’s book ‘reflections on anti-semitism’.

    • Mow_the_Grass

      Best check with your friends in Gaza ie Hamas.
      They stop digging attack tunnels and firing Grad/Katusha missiles – then they will enjoy quiet.
      Simple.

    • Milano Merano

      If rockets come into Israel, you better bet your sorry backside, that bombs will leave Israel!

  • goodsoldier

    Rod Liddle has not made it clear whether he is voting Leave. I suspect he is voting to stay in the EU. That makes me not trust him at all.

    • Oedipus Rex

      No, he supports Leave (cf The Sun)

      But then again, just about any commentator can claim one thing and do another – we don’t get to see anyone’s vote, do we? Maybe Douglas Murray is having us all on!

  • plainsdrifter

    Attaboy, Rod. Keep at it.

  • MC

    Logic isn’t strong in pro islamist parties like uk-labour. If you are anti Zionist and not anti islamist, – or indeed anti-any religious statehood – you are an anti-Semite. If you support sharia and are against Israel you are anti-Semite.
    The muslim members and JC are strong supporters of the Islamic cause and all seek to have islam as the dominant world religion. the hate jews and are anti-Semite.
    Keep it up, RL.

  • Jacobi

    The labour party will suspend one or two Jew-haters but of course re-instate them after a suitable period.

    One current reason is that the Labour Party is increasingly pro-Muslim and of course Jews are infidels must be dealt with.

    Another reason is that the Labour Party relies more and more on the Muslim vote both direct, but increasingly, postal. This is so not just where Muslims are a significant minority but anywhere they can provide a significant ”tipping” vote and there are many such constituencies.

  • Elodi

    Lose your traditional white working class voters to Maggie, feel betrayed and replace them with muslim imports at the first chance you get. Then when the public begin to notice, act all surprised and faux-outraged when your party is described as anti-semitic. Pretend the anti-semitic members are ok really because they hate white christians just as much, especially if they are male and British.

    That’s the official wikipedia entry on how to create the current Labour party.

  • rtj1211

    Surely you and your buddies should be begging John Spellar to call publicly for Waseem Zaffar to resign courtesy of being ‘an anti-semitic c**t’? Oh, and tell him he’s not welcome at Lords or Edgbaston either. That should sort him out good n proper. He probably boycotts Villa Park already for the sake of his insanity……

  • Ingmar Blessing

    Gaza is history’s first concentration camp with a birth rate above zero. Has anyone ever noticed that?

    • CK

      Welcome to the world of the left–where population spikes somehow equates to “genocide,” and that proclamations and repeated attempts of actual genocide constitutes “resistance” and is rewarded.

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