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The uglier the man, the uglier the attitude

22 August 2015

9:00 AM

22 August 2015

9:00 AM

Body dysmorphia, the unfortunate medical condition whereby a perfectly pleasant/slender person believes themselves to be ugly/fat, is a strange and sad thing. I’d always presumed it to be (like anorexia and bulimia) a primarily female problem, so much more importance being placed on the appearance of women than men. Respectable medical surveys indicate otherwise.

Nevertheless, women tend to see themselves as less attractive than they are. A sizeable number of men, on the other hand, suffer from the opposite delusion. I call them Magic Mirror men, because they seem to possess an inner looking-glass which tells them that they are, indeed, the fairest of them all.

Why else do ugly men not feel ridiculous passing judgment on the attractiveness, or otherwise, of women? He may be a politician or a businessman, or one of those half-witted fat American men who insist on wearing T-shirts bearing the legend NO FAT CHICKS. But he will have no doubt that all women between the ages of 16 and 61 are waiting in an agony of exquisite anticipation to find out if he thinks them attractive.

This being the case, he acts the cad when assessing the physical appeal of women he encounters. The very presentable Linda McDougall (wife of Labour MP Austin Mitchell) claimed that the barely human-looking John Prescott pushed her against a wall and put his hand up her skirt in 1978, when such behaviour ‘was very common for men at that time…I just rebuffed him, he shrugged and winked and we all carried on.’ The lardy lord brought it up in an interview with The Daily Telegraph, after declining to attend Mitchell’s retirement party: ‘Have you seen his wife? Built like a bloody barn door. If I threw her against the wall, the fucking house would fall down!’ This is rich from someone who had his lavatory seat repaired twice in two years at taxpayers’ expense.


Then there is Donald Trump, a preposterously unappetising specimen with an almost Tourettish compulsion to pick holes in the appearance of women. Apparently the bewigged bell-end thought he ‘had a shot’ with the Sainted Diana. He bombarded her with massive bouquets. Not surprisingly, Trump also gave Diana ‘the creeps’, according to her confidante Selina Scott.

Hollywood has done all it can to perpetuate this surreal double standard — see Jack Nicholson recoiling with horror at an unclothed Diane Keaton in that film no one remembers the name of. The opposite would be unthinkable, despite the fact that a naked Nicholson would surely make most even half-sighted people heave.

How did men become so self-deluded? Women are not blameless, though until very recently it was impossible for them to earn a living without skivvying or prostituting themselves. Otherwise, they used their beauty to make a marriage to a man who could support them financially. Women convinced themselves that a man with fiscal appeal was a better bet than one with physical appeal and, as no one wants to be a meal ticket, unattractive but economically viable men convinced themselves that they had ‘something’ that young, lovely women craved, beyond the size of their pocket-book. ‘Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac,’ smarmed the charmless Henry Kissinger.

Times are changing and men and women are coming to terms with the nasty things that happen to their souls when beauty is sold to the highest bidder. When asked what he would have been if not a fantastically rich footballer, Peter Crouch answered, ‘A virgin.’ A book by Holly Madison, the American reality TV star and ex-‘chief girlfriend’ of Hugh Hefner, details exactly what a modern gold-digger can expect; habitually drugging oneself in order to be able to submit one’s 23-year-old body to the arthritic caresses of a 90-year-old, 9 p.m. curfews, bestiality porn to put one in the mood for love, and carpets reeking of urine from the Boss’s posse of dogs.

Madison writes of her shock at first witnessing the Hefner’s behaviour in a disco, when he gets up to boogie; ‘I was genuinely mortified for him…had no one told him how silly he looked?’ Of course not — and his Magic Mirror had probably told him that he was the greatest dancer, as well as lover.

No matter how men judge women’s looks, it must remain a mystery to them that the plainest woman can get sex any time she wants, while even decent-looking men are reduced to masturbating and/or paying for it. Maybe the Magic Mirror is more of a comfort blanket, after all?

Julie Burchill’s books include Ambition, I Knew I was Right and Unchosen: Memoirs of a Philo-Semite.

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  • Jackthesmilingblack

    Viagra for women?

    • Terry Field

      Pink!
      Quelle surprise.
      All pillowy and dreamlike.
      Spare the rod and spoil the reality.

    • Solage 1386

      Viagra for women: Money, if the photograph above is anything to go by……

      • blandings

        Let’s be brutally frank here – that girl is pretty safe – he would probably have a heart attack (good way to go mind – beats falling down the stairs)

        • Alexandrovich

          Having a heart attack on the job. You wouldn’t know if you were coming or going…

  • Lana

    “No matter how men judge women’s looks, it must remain a mystery to them that the plainest woman can get sex any time she wants”

    Where on earth does this myth come from? Pretty women maybe, but average looking women have to work their asses off for male approval. Anyone deemed unattractive is in for humiliation and bullying.

    • ViolinSonaten b minor.

      And women don’t belittle men who they consider not up to scratch in the
      looks department and they some times talk of far more personal issues .
      Maybe these woman shouldn’t be looking for ‘ male approval’ what are they
      doing setting traps and fluffing their hair, eh ?

      • Terry Field

        Does my bum look good in this???

        • blandings

          Good grief Terry, you have all the charm of a randy gorilla.
          I have been courting this fine lady for months.
          Now why don’t you just watch and learn.

        • Frank Marker

          I have heard at some women’s funerals the following sign ‘Does my bum look big in this?’ can be seen at the rear of their coffins.

    • Yorkieeye

      She don’t say approval, she said sex – and she’s right.

      • Gilbert White

        Game match and set, unfortunately, Lana.

    • Terry Field

      That’s life, old cocker.

  • davidshort10

    Good stuff, but I couldn’t imagine such a crude piece being in the Spectator before that old and until now confirmed bachelor, Andrew Neil, became MD. Certain men had to pay for it with escort girls even in their thirties.

    • Lana

      Taki.

  • Lana

    I remember being at a party with my extremely pretty petite friend while some ogre tried to rub her thigh, in front of his perfectly presentable wife.

    Another time at a dinner with an ugly bloke telling my attractive companion that she was ugly.

    Another time standing in a queue while two drunk chavs told my strikingly beautiful friend that she was ugly.

    At school various runtish schoolboys with greasy hair passed loud, intrusive and cruel judgement over the girls.

    It starts young.

    • ViolinSonaten b minor.

      And I suppose the girls didn’t overlook that shy boy with glasses and spots
      and laugh at him when he said hello. Preferring the boy with blonde hair
      and a cocky manner. Its always worked both ways, Lana.

      • SNP “AJOCKALYPSE”

        Your patter is tripe….. You should stick to what you know, like your stupid anti-Scottish William Wallace stuff.

        • blandings

          I read in Vanished Kingdoms by Norman Davies (fascinating book) that Wallace spent more time fighting against the Scots on behalf of the King of England than the other way round.

      • Sue Smith

        Remember that famous scene in ‘Seven Year Itch” when Marilyn Monroe says to Tom Ewell, “..but what about the quiet guy in the corner; he’s the one who doesn’t have that I’m-so-handsome-you-can’t-look-at-me smirk”.

        She was, at the time, married to Joe Di Maggio!!!

      • Vivienne Kaye

        Or better yet, when she does talk to him, and he gets offended because she’s not the class beauty, and insults her. That never happens…

    • freddiethegreat

      One wonders if Women’s magazines with their photoshopped images and lying articles have anything to do with this feeling of inferiority.

      • Yorkieeye

        Is it female feelings of inferiority or male ones of inadequency?

    • Terry Field

      Sounds a good party! Why did you leave early – scared of a quick grope?

      • ViolinSonaten b minor.

        I should imagine the only* cough* ladies you encounter are courtesy
        of a magazine or two .

    • Asmund Yngvar

      Unfortunately, the runtish schoolboys, drunk chavs, mouthy ugly blokes and ogres are the guys who stick in the memory – the well behaved majority don’t even get noticed save for Violin Sonaten b minor’s shy spotty boy who is relentlessly ridiculed by all the girls in his class.

    • Curiously Hard

      I blame the parent/s

      • Stevie Mac

        Wont somebody just think of the kids?

    • post_x_it

      I’ve observed a similar phenomenon with a particular brand of aversion to homosexuals. You sometimes come across a species of man who will loudly declare that they wouldn’t feel comfortable in the presence of a gay man because he’d force himself on them. These are invariably the mingiest, smelliest, fattest men imaginable. In other words, the ones who needn’t worry about such things at all.

    • Stevie Mac

      I’ve heard of a fat dude getting told he was disgusting by a woman in a bar…devastated his already low self-esteem….it does happen.

      • Yorkieeye

        To be honest the whole world is telling him that these days. Hating fatties is the new acceptable prejudice.

  • AJH1968

    If a woman is not interested it is a big turn off for me, but to go and have a go at her afterwards is reprehensible. In my neck of the woods that would invite instant ridicule for the man that is. As for Hugh Hefner I consider him a complete reptile. I have two sisters you would think that would give me a greater understanding of women unfortunately it does not. Hopefully someday a kind soul will publish a twenty four volume handbook on understanding women, until then they remain a mystery; part of the appeal I suppose.

    • Terry Field

      Hugh was a pleasant fellow. Ever meet him, or just sounding off?!?!?

    • Frank Marker

      To paraphrase Dorothy Parker
      Some women break your heart in two
      Some women fawn and flatter
      Some women never look at you and that clears up the matter

  • Yorkieeye

    I love you Julie! And good for Peter Crouch, his wit alone might have got him laid regardless.

    • Terry Field

      Seek help. It can be found.

      • Yorkieeye

        Off you go then.

    • Stevie Mac

      Ahh Peter Crouch. Good touch for a big man.

  • freddiethegreat

    A dangerous generalization. On the other hand the byline “the uglier the man, the uglier the attitude” would work well if you changed man to woman. Think of the average feminist (and some of them are VERY average indeed).

    • Terry Field

      Many have mustaches, and live in towers with white gardens.

    • Sue Smith

      In Australia they have been referred to by a journalist as “fright bats” and he’s actually identified each and every one who qualifies. Naturally they’ve got their truncheons in a twist.

      The main problem for me with modern feminists is that they are too busy criticizing the decisions made by other women.

      • E.I.Cronin

        Tim Blair can be very, very amusing – remember the Furqhan Derya article going viral? Bolt, Devine, Akerman and the others at the Daily Terrorgraph don’t really do laughs. Tim does give Elizabeth Farrelly a rough time. He must have coined Frightbat for Greer. Someone who came out to bat for FGM and Indigenous domestic violence because it was allowed by tribal law isn’t exactly a feminist I think.

        • Sue Smith

          Well said; I agree with you. Greer is a complex individual wracked by inconsistencies. Loneliness can do that to you!!

          We call it the “Smellograph”, btw!

          • E.I.Cronin

            Love it! The Daily Smellograph – will have to plagiarise you on this Sue. I know they can be sloppy journalists,and some of their headlines belong in the National Enquirer, but I’m so grateful for Bolt, Blair, Devine and Akerman. They are the only ones with enough guts to keep telling it like it is with Islam. I was proud of the way they stuck it to Allah’s Broadcasting Corporation over Q&A and they stand up to the PC browbeating from the Sydney Morning Herald, Islamist, Always. 🙂

            Paul Sheehan excepted of course.

            All the best!

          • Sue Smith

            Agree with everything you’ve said. The Smellograph was to be my son’s journalistic destination (he was working elsewhere for News) until he pulled up stumps and is now on the ‘dark side’ – i.e. Federal politics as a media adviser – his boss is very high up in cabinet!!

            I worked for the ABC in the ’70’s and I can tell you about the endemic bias there and the pressure to submit to left wing ideologies. That’s when I wore my “Join the Libs” T-shirt into work one day!! Oh, those were the days…!! My eldest son is equally ‘subversive’ and is a fan of Brendan O’Neill and stirring up the Left (not difficult!).

            God bless Andrew Bolt, Sherrie Markson and Miranda Devine! What do all these people have in common? An unwillingness to submit to group-think and the bravery to express an opinion.

            And I’m sorry about Mark Latham – the one, brave individual in a sea of claptrap and politburo propaganda from the Left.

          • E.I.Cronin

            Sue you’re a brave, brave woman :)) People have been stoned for lesser thought crimes!! Can just imagine the looks you must have got in the ABC office – good on you. Bet your son has some very interesting (and frightening) tales to tell about internal party politics?.

            It’s got to the point now where I leave the room if anyone’s watching ABC, SBS or reading Fairfax. It’s too painful watching the venom being sprayed over our once beautiful country. A pity we don’t have a conservative leader with the daring to take on the apparatchiks – even Howard wasn’t able to tackle it.

            Yes, I am so glad the DT crew have the gumption and honesty to come out swinging for Australia. I know the latest polls have Shorten leading but the general tide seems to be turning. We live in hope.

          • Sue Smith

            Agree x 1,000!!

            The worst offender at the ABC was the late producer Alan Bateman (he produced ‘Home & Away’ – say no more!!). One day ex PM John Gorton came into the office to negotiate an interview program. AB yelled at the absolute top of his voice, “tell **** (me) that her Liberal-loving mate is in the office”. It was a low point.

            I’ve written stuff like this on the Guardian and they don’t believe me; it would destroy the fairy tale. They’re all too busy looking for unicorns.

            I don’t understand your last paragraph.

          • E.I.Cronin

            Sorry Sue it is rather unclear – what I meant was a few recent articles had Shorten declaring the ALP can win the next election, Abbott’s a weak candidate as you point out and may not last the distance, and the polls seem to back Shorten up. But look how wrong the polls were with the UK election! My impression (talking to friends, family, customers and colleagues) is many ALP voters are very unhappy with the Labor Caucus and their close ties with the Greens. I really, really worry about the irreversible damage Labor would do if they got back in with the conservatives being so ineffective (excepting Morrison).

            Heh… Home and Away! You should write memoirs about life in the ABC. And stand for Minister for Education too! 🙂

          • Sue Smith

            Abbott staggers from one crisis to another and now Justice Heydon is to be shafted (according to “The Drum” tonight).

            Scott Morrison. I’m glad you think he’s effective. He’s a great communicator and a very nice person. I know this because……….

          • E.I.Cronin

            Thanks for the heads up on Justice Heydon Sue – am overseas and have just been skimming headlines from home. Morrison bulldozed through his immigration portfolio in the face of a blizzard of pc invective. I think he’d be a strong replacement for Abbott but doesn’t look likely. So you’ve met him!
            You’re not related to him are you!? 🙂

          • Sue Smith

            No relation, but I am unable to say more.

          • E.I.Cronin

            Understood completely Sue and will talk more on other subjects. Take care, Thanks for the chat!

    • SMC

      I think you’ve been looking at beautiful women and thinking that they must be anti-feminist, like you, when if they told you what they were thinking . . . Well, it’s probably just as well for you that they *don’t* tell you. The truth is, you have no way of knowing what “the average feminist” looks like. A person who speaks up might be Betty Friedan, or she might be Gloria Steinem. However she looks, if’s probably not an indicator of the appearance of “the average feminist”, who most likely looks like — an average woman of her age cohort. So what?

  • SNP “AJOCKALYPSE”

    Julie Burchill obviously has an unfortunate dislike of men in general, perhaps she should see someone about her issues.

    • Terry Field

      She is beyond help.

    • blandings

      “Julie Burchill obviously has an unfortunate dislike of men in general,”

      She doesn’t strike me that way.
      She may not like you, but then neither do I

      • SNP “AJOCKALYPSE”

        Thank you ….To be hated by such a racist bigot as yourself is quite a complement.

        YES SCOTLAND

        • blandings

          Don’t hit the martinis before midday jock.
          (I presume you mean compliment).

          • Sue Smith

            Are you guys at work writing this stuff? Seriously, take a look at Rupert Murdoch’s recent tweet predicting a global economic crisis as a consequence of Europe’s travails and the China slowdown.

            I’m EXTREMELY concerned about it. You all need a Plan B.

            My son is a senior adviser to a high-ranking government minister in the Australian government and I’ve always cautioned him, “when you sniff trouble in the air be the first to use the exit; if you wait for everybody else it will be too late”.

          • blandings

            I have a plan B
            Brew my own beer
            Dig my own allotment
            Buy a cheap sports car
            Move to a remote part of France (Limousin) if it gets real bad
            That’s it really

          • SMC

            I dunno — will the French have you?

          • blandings

            All peasants are the same

          • SMC

            Have you read “The Discovery of France”? Highly recommended, and wonderfully entertaining as well as informative in rather startling ways . . .

        • ViolinSonaten b minor.

          The only racist bigot I’ve noticed happens to be you.
          Self- deluded too, must be all those William Wallace films-
          bet you think he was Australian

          • SNP “AJOCKALYPSE”

            Another anti-Scottish bigot……..Every vile xenophobic anti-Scottish comment kills the union a little more….. Keep up the bile BRITNAT

          • ViolinSonaten b minor.

            I am hugely fond of Scotland, as is Scotland with England .
            Only the SNP is full of loathing for both.

          • SNP “AJOCKALYPSE”

            You don’t know what you’re talking about….. and if you knew anything about Scotland you wouldn’t make stupid William Wallace / SNP remarks.

          • blandings

            “and if you knew anything about Scotland”
            She knows who won the referendum – do you?

          • blandings

            I read in Vanished Kingdoms by Norman Davies (fascinating book) that Wallace spent more time fighting against the Scots on behalf of the King of England than the other way round.
            Still, why spoil a fantasy

  • ajcb

    The ludicrous Trump is also among men who like to grade women with scores (who’s a “perfect ten” — apparently ex-model Heidi Klum is “no longer a ten” according to the toad-like Trump, who is himself, what do we say girls? About minus 10?) I was asking a younger woman some years ago if this particular sad aspect of gender inequality was still around, and she told me of a New Yorker cartoon with a naked average couple looking at their reflections: He sees Superman looking back at him; she sees…a dreary pear.

  • Abie Vee

    I have to say that the bird in the picture looks far from demeaned; in fact she looks rather like she’s enjoying herself.

  • Terry Field

    Trump is right to criticise these utterly poisonous cows who front a lot of TV programs; Prescott is a normal man, (bumbling, and lady-bum-appreciating no doubt) and probably did not grope the truly fearsome woman he is accused of having felt the contours of.
    These hate-filled women who writ this billeous crap are really very amusing!
    Keep it up! (since many modern British men, (cowed by these Amazonian horrors into queerdom) , obviously cannot!
    Many women – ladies – whatever – really LIKE sexual display, and the pleasures that go with it.
    Look at the author.
    Tells you an awful lot, what what!

    • Geo

      You are helping to make the author’s point for her if you defend Trump and Prescott.

      Prescott is a foul, hideous man. I don’t know (or want to know) about his sex life, but from what I see of him in public, the story is certainly believeable. Trump is totally out of order when he makes the comments he does. When you resort to personal atttacks, it says more about the attacker than the person being attacked.

      • Terry Field

        You are a wet little bigot.
        Trump is corect to confront these monsters; more people should do so.
        Prescott is simply funny – a ‘deputy prime-minister’ of Ruritania!
        A good value buffoon who cannot be appreciated by goody-two-shoes types like you.
        How is the macro-biotic, meat-free, quorn-filled regime going?
        You sound a blast!!!!

        • Pacificweather

          I’m glad your in a good mood today.

          • Sue Smith

            “You’re”, not “your”. Please.

          • Pacificweather

            Apologies Sue, I’ll be more careful in future.

          • Callipygian

            : )

        • Geo

          Prescott is not funny. He confirmed all of my preconceptions when he appeared on Have I Got News For You. He proceeded to wreck the good-natured banter between the guests, and tried to turn it into a Party Political Boradcast. Thankfully, the show was the funniest I’ve every seen because they all turned on the foul man.

          He is a nasty, shouty, unstatesmanlike oaf.

          I will tell you now, if only for the purposes of correcting your factual inaccuracy, that I cannot abide quorn, I eat meat every day, and want nothing to do with feminism, political correctness and eco-warriors. But that is no reason to be uncivil.

          • That point about Have I got News For You is certainly true. I actually attempted to watch a repeat of the one featuring Alistair Campbell the other night and it was so tedious and un-funny because of Campbell’s political ‘jokes’ that I couldn’t bear to continue watching.

          • Geo

            There seems to be a running theme with Blair’s cronies.

          • Gilbert White

            Is it haram for UK muslims to eat Hull Haddocks containing the semen of Lord Prescott?

          • Geo

            I have no idea. I am not a Muslim, and I also wasn’t aware that John Prescott slept with fish.

        • LOL – if I were to write frankly what you sound like, I think my post would be moderated into oblivion. Putting it politely Terry, you sound like a bitter loser, women hater. I hope that isn’t too rude to be left here. It is certainly true. You’ve obviously not been appreciated much by women, that’s for sure. If I was a policeman on the trail of a Yorkshire Ripper type, I’d be asking the website for your IP address. Your loathing of women is palpable.

          • ArtieHarris

            And you sound like a fawning prat.

            Does it make you feel big to sit behind a screen insulting people?

          • Callipygian

            Just wondering: who did you mean to reply to?

          • Yorkieeye

            Pot and kettle Harris

          • Sue Smith

            Don’t confuse this with Ma and Pa Kettle please.

          • ArtieHarris

            Not at all.

            I’m just giving him a taste of his own medicine.

      • logdon

        According to Trace, it was like a very large wardrobe with a very small key falling on top of you.

        • Geo

          Lovely image.

          • logdon

            I think that was her point.

          • Geo

            I know.

          • logdon

            Good.

        • davidshort10

          That’s what some woman once said of Lord Soames, who is a very different man to Prescott.

          • logdon

            So Prescott came second even in the wardrobe/key competition?

    • blandings

      Hey dude, you don’t seem to have had much success with the chicks and I can’t see that changing any time soon.

      • Yes – I thought that. There is not much that is sadder than a bitter misogynist unless it is an extremist, man hating old harpy.

      • ArtieHarris

        And you have I presume?

        • ViolinSonaten b minor.

          Are you after some tips on how to woo the ladies ?
          Besides have you read this ‘ Terry Fields’ posts?
          Suggest you do.

        • blandings

          More than him I imagine.
          Just read his posts and form your own judgement

          • ArtieHarris

            He’s attacking feminist media women, not women in general.

            I don’t blame him.

            Some of them are utterly revolting creatures – always stirring up hatred towards men and boys.

          • blandings

            “Some of them are utterly revolting creatures – always stirring up hatred towards men and boys.”
            So you’ve met them have you, and can speak with authority?
            I don’t think so

          • ArtieHarris

            “So you’ve met them have you, and can speak with authority?
            I don’t think so”

            Firstly, you know nothing about me.

            Secondly, I didn’t meet Hitler, but I think that I can validly claim that he was definitely not a good person – based on the evidence that I have seen.

            You, however, clearly think that you actually need to meet people in order to make well-informed judgements about them.

            Even twelve year olds would know that this is not true.

            As such, maybe you need to think more.

          • blandings

            Artie,
            You have got a problem.

          • ArtieHarris

            You seem incapable of explaining yourself and your “logic” is woolly – hence your apparent need to resort continually to ad hominems.

            In short, you lose.

          • blandings

            Artie
            You are a little man consumed with self-pity, so of course the gals don’t fancy you.
            I suggest that you “reboot” your life before you give us all a bad name.

          • ArtieHarris

            Ad hominems don’t work with me.

            I just keep coming back to expose them, so that readers can see that you have no arguments.

            Nothing but empty-headed insults somewhat undermines your whole credibility, doesn’t it?

          • blandings

            “I just keep coming back to expose them,”
            Expose what Artie?

            “Nothing but empty-headed insults somewhat undermines your whole credibility, doesn’t it? ”
            I have never lacked credibility (or girlfriends).

    • Terry obviously has a serious problem with women. This is most likely down to his own inadequacies or his own poor judgement in choosing mates. I have no problems at all with women – at least the ones I chose to get involved with.

      • ArtieHarris

        Everyone one of your posts gives me the impression of a snivelling coward lurking behind a screen.

        • That’s a pretty silly post really, isn’t it. Nothing to say about the issues, just a ludicrous bit of personal abuse. Am I supposed to be bothered by it? If so, let me just say, I couldn’t care less what impression’s you gained.

          • JamesCovey123

            It is you who is continually engaging in personal abuse, while making snide threats.

          • Threats???? What are you talking about? What threats? I objected to some woman hating lunatic’s view of the world. He wrote like a serial killer – festering with hatred for women. I seem to have poked some very disturbed creatures from under that particular stone.

          • JamesCovey123

            He’s a serial killer now, is he?

          • Well, if he isn’t, he may be thinking about it. He said he wants to see women ‘taken apart’….. Not a nice turn of phrase at the very least. Quite sinister even. If he’s really a friendly, jovial sort, and isn’t seething with animus towards women (fat chance) he should probably modify the way he writes about them. I think he is a thoroughly nasty piece of work.

          • Pacificweather

            Arthur Sparknottle, I identify you as Terry Field and I claim my £10

    • ViolinSonaten b minor.

      Terry, you really aught to get a refund from that charm school.
      Also remember less is more and ladies don’t like fumbling apes

      • SNP “AJOCKALYPSE”

        And men don’t like xenophobic bigots like you.

        • ViolinSonaten b minor.

          Oh dear oh dear, I am very fond of Scotland, just not you.
          Might I add since when has Scotland been a foreign country, last time
          I checked it was part of the union.

          • SNP “AJOCKALYPSE”

            I’m fond of England, just not BRITNAT bigots like you.

            We share the same state, for now, but not the same country…… but thankfully independence is not far away.

          • ViolinSonaten b minor.

            Why all the aggression, it really wasn’t England’s fault that Scotland
            didn’t want to stand on its own two feet, we had no part of the vote.
            Now just stop stampeding in the playpen there’s a good boy.

          • blandings

            You shouldn’t wind him up darling – he can’t take it.

          • ViolinSonaten b minor.

            Its not so much the chip on his shoulder, its the fried mars
            on both shoulders and a whisky sodden haggis for a brain.
            I’ll assume he rattles on about Scotland regardless of articles,
            even a thread was about pruning roses, it would really be about Scotland to him. Talk about obsessed.

          • SNP “AJOCKALYPSE”

            No more William Wallace stuff ??….. It was about the most sense that came from you.

            I look forward to your comments during “Indyref 2” in a couple of years.

          • ViolinSonaten b minor.

            I thought the SNP said it was a ‘ once in a generation’ referendum, you really are very sore losers. But you really need to take that up with Scotland.
            I don’t know why the rest of the union wasn’t allowed a say,
            so stop stamping your feet .

          • SNP “AJOCKALYPSE”

            “The rest of the union wasn’t allowed a say” because it’s not their business what we do.

            I suppose you think that everyone in the EU “should be allowed a say” on whether or not the UK should be allowed to leave ?

            It’s something called democracy, something that many BRITNATS have a difficulty with.

            “Once in a generation”… ??…. That’s what The SNP thought at the time, but as they’ve always said, the people of Scotland are sovereign and they will make that decision.

            As for “sore losers” ?….. Scotland lost last year, but that was then. Things have changed in Scotland, and a YES vote for independence will happen soon.

          • cyrusthevirus

            Of course its our business fool !!why would you assume we want you ??Has it not occurred to you that WE might not want YOU–no matter how you vote ??Anyway its all way too late as these islands have already been conquered but many choose not to notice

          • SNP “AJOCKALYPSE”

            What an arrogant, ignorant and offensive BRITNAT you are.

            What Scotland does is the business of the people of Scotland, your country is your business.

            YES SCOTLAND

          • Sue Smith

            Two feet? I think you’ll find that beast has many more than two!

          • Sue Smith

            ….of porridge eaters!

        • Geo

          Nobody was disresepcting Scotland until you brought up the subject. In fact, they still aren’t.

          All this hatred of Scotland is in your head. The hatred of the SNP on the other hand is very real, caused by attitudes such as yours. Just remember, the SNP isn’t Scotland, and to insult the SNP is not to insult Scotland. If anything, civilised Scotsmen should be insulted by the way you presume to speak on their behalf.

          • SNP “AJOCKALYPSE”

            So in your mind the majority of Scots who support the SNP are not “civilised” ??…. BRITNATS such as you should remember that whatever Scotland chooses to do is Scotland’s business, and not yours….. But your insults towards the majority of Scots is our business, and comments like yours are always appreciated as they help some decide that the union is not for them.

          • blandings

            “whatever Scotland chooses to do is Scotland’s business”

            And Scotland chose didn’t it?

          • Geo

            There is a large proportion of SNP fanatics which are uncivilised – as indeed is your behaviour.

            I find the SNP a loathesome and repugnant party too. That doesn’t mean I dislike Scotland.

            I am not asking for a vote in Scottish elections. But I do have a right to comment on it, especially when you are bringing Scotland’s internal politics to a totally irrelevant comment thread.

        • ViolinSonaten b minor.

          You do realise this article wasn’t about Scotland don’t you ?

      • Callipygian

        Thanks for the chuckle!

        • ViolinSonaten b minor.

          I think this ‘ Terry’ has overdone the testosterone pills, he’ll
          be beating his chest with his fists next 😉

          • Callipygian

            We’ll have to call him ‘Testy’ instead.

  • Michael H Kenyon

    Men can be beasts, and powerful men even more so: that said, one wonders what 23-year old models see in Hugh Hefner, the millionaire celebrity, given his alleged sleaziness was apparent well before I was born, and their mothers doubtless advised to avoid chaps such as him. Also, pot, meet kettle, and neither should juggle stones in greenhouses: just who do you think the odious John Prescott would look like if you gave him a shoulder-length lank black wig? This is why it is prudent (and gallant) to be less focussed on appearances.

  • This article could easily be condensed to a couple of well known facts: Some men are boorish, unpleasant oafs and some women are unduly focussed on self deprecation. Neither of these truths apply to the vast majority of people, so I am at a loss as to why the author seeks to draw wider implications about the nastiness of men and the foolishness of women.

    A more pertinent approach might be to try and discover why it is that men like Trump, Prestcot and others actually manage to get women to have sex with. It can’t be because of their attractiveness.

    • Geo

      We all know why Trump manages to get women to have sex with him. We also know that it is difficult to emulate his methods.

    • ViolinSonaten b minor.

      ‘ Prescott’ hang on, not John Prescott. Why on earth would any woman and that includes his wife who some say resembles Elizabeth Taylor.

  • blandings

    “claimed that the barely human-looking John Prescott pushed her against a
    wall and put his hand up her skirt in 1978, when such behaviour ‘was
    very common for men at that time”

    Was it?
    Did I miss out there. – Never groped a woman in my life – I was under the delusion that it was spectacularly counter-productive. Well it’s never too late to learn I guess.

    • JamesCovey123

      No, it was not common at all.

      Someone is lying.

    • mohdanga

      Like you, I missed out on this as well. Pity.

  • Solage 1386

    Most women are ugly.

  • Geo

    Isn’t it a little unfair to tar all of us with that brush (and I don’t mean Trump’s hairpiece)?

    What if a man made sweeping generalisations about women based on looks?

    • helicoil

      Didn’t you know that only males can be sexist -send yourself for re-education immediately.

      • ajcb

        Oh, don’t go overboard. Don’t you think there is some truth in what Burchill’s pointing out: that women are much more likely to be dismissed/disparaged on the sole basis of what they look like? This is not to say all men do this, or that humans are blind to differences in appearance, just that this sort of crap is routinely flung at women to neutralise their value, but not at men to anywhere near the same degree. If nothing else, it is interesting to ponder why this should be so. (Women evolutionarily hard-wired to please, in a passive way, is my depressing hypothesis.)

        • helicoil

          No.

          • ajcb

            too bad.

        • Geo

          Some rather foul people dismiss and insult women based on their appearances. However, to tar all men with the same brush is unfair, and if I picked out the behaviour of a tiny proportion of women, and applied a sweeping and insulting generalisation, the feminists would be (rightly, for once) up in arms about it.

          • ViolinSonaten b minor.

            Maybe Julie has mischievously thrown a grenade into this topic
            by insisting all men are the same. Most will rightly be on the defensive
            as most men are not remotely like that.
            And one or two will be scratching their armpits ( such as Terry Field )
            and eating a banana whilst wondering why the ladies run a mile.

          • ajcb

            You’re a gentleman, Geo (your posts suggest).

          • Geo

            Thank you very much.

          • monsieur_charlie

            You wouldn’t mean JB by any chance would you when reffering to “a tiny proportion of women”?

          • Geo

            The thrust of her article makes sense, I was just objecting to the way in which the title dismisses all ugly men.

            There are far worse than her on the Guardian.

        • Aman Tewater

          Yeah, heard about a study which showed when women got turned on, they became suddenly more helpful, and to everyone, not only the object of their desire

      • Brogan75

        Imagine being white-single-hetero-man these days…

    • Vivienne Kaye

      They do. Every, single, day. Read some of the comments.

  • jim

    “The uglier the man, the uglier the attitude”

    The uglierolderfatter the female,the more bitter the harpy.

    • blandings

      “The uglierolderfatter the female,the more bitter the harpy.”

      But on the whole, more sinned against than sinning.

      • ArtieHarris

        I don’t think so.

      • jim

        Don’t see it that way.In my experience Girls “Just Wanna Have Fun” like the song says. Later as the t*ts head south they start telling themselves it wasn’t fun at all.It was abuse. Plenty of recovered memory syndrome psychobabble quacks to remember it for them if it doesn’t come too readily to mind.The truth is young women are just as hedonistic as men but they grow out of it faster.

    • ajcb

      (Why be mean? Do you have any female relatives? Daughters? Would you be happy if someone chucked this sort of thing at them?)

      • jim

        It’s called equality. If they can dish it out they can take it too.

        • blandings

          Look jim, can we stop the self-pity thing.
          Equality doesn’t come into it – she just didn’t dig you, ok?
          Now pull up your pants, gird your loins and stride off into the world.

        • Sue Smith

          What is really meant by that is that women claim equal opportunity to be offensive.

          • jim

            …and to be repaid in kind without whining or demanding special treatment. This is what you wanted,right?

    • Vivienne Kaye

      Oh dear. Someone was rejected by by a beautiful twenty-five year old and isn’t taking it well…

      • blandings

        Well quite, some girls just don’t set the bar low enough.

        • Sue Smith

          I used to tell my female high-school students to behave themselves because “slappers and trash girls are a dime a dozen – so my 3 sons tell me”.

          They took it extremely ill, as Dickens was fond of saying.

  • PerplexedSardine

    When someone is out to demean another person, they insult in the way they believe will be the most hurtful, not in the way that they believe is most factually accurate.

    Ugliness seems almost mandatory for male politicians (the great as well as the small). The reason they are not insulted for it is that they largely wouldn’t care. The reason women are insulted for their appearance (regardless of their attractiveness, and regardless of the attractiveness of their defamer) is because it is thought that they are more likely to be hurt by it.

    Of course, it might be that it only occurs to men more sensitive about their own appearance to insult others for theirs…

  • Jackthesmilingblack

    Younger than that whisky you’re drinking.
    Don’t use that one-liner in paedo-crazy YUCK, or slammer time beckons.

  • JamesCovey123

    Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Burchill

    You write hateful misandric rubbish – as ever.

    “The very presentable Linda McDougall (wife of Labour MP Austin Mitchell) claimed that the barely human-looking John Prescott pushed her against a wall and put his hand up her skirt in 1978, ”

    Yeah, right.

    John Prescott walks into a room and does that to a woman whom he has never met before.

    I don’t believe it.

    “when such behaviour ‘was very common for men at that time…””

    Rubbish. You are just a spiteful hate-stirrer, in my view.

    • Sue Smith

      Did you know that Mzzzz is short for “miserable”?

    • Mary Ann

      I believe it, there are men who are like that, think they are god’s gift to women, thankfully few and far between.

      • ViolinSonaten b minor.

        It works both ways, floating egos without any conception of reality.

        • Mary Ann

          True.

  • Anton

    “pushed her against a wall and put his hand up her skirt in 1978, when such behaviour ‘was very common for men at that time…”

    I must be the same age as that oaf Prescott and I am certainly no prude and have had some success with the ladies but I cannot for the life of me think “such behaviour was common for men at that time”. I don’t doubt some sleazier members of the entertainment might have tried the sort of thing and the sleazier members of any walk of life but they are certainly were not and are not in the majority.

    • ViolinSonaten b minor.

      Indeed. To generalise like this is completely unjustified. tarring everyone with the same brush because of a few deluded goats is very unfair and dishonest.
      But it seems men are fair game these days, but dare speak of woman in the same way.

      • colchar

        One does have to wonder how Burchill would react if a man were to generalize about women in such a manner.

    • davidshort10

      I remember a friend of mine used to pinch girls bums in the street in the 70s and you definitely got away with it. You’d be banged up now.

      • JamesCovey123

        Really? I never saw anything like that.

        Were these girls strangers?

        How did they react?

        • Mary Ann

          Difficult to react when the street is crowded by the time you have turned around so have they and you can’t tell who it was.

        • Stevie Mac

          I’m male and it has happened to me (in a bar).

          • fundamentallyflawed

            Have you spoke to the Police and a compensation solicitor for sexual assault?

      • ViolinSonaten b minor.

        Especially if the ‘ girl’ happens to be a transgender, or someone
        who cannot decide, you must be careful.
        But honestly, who pinches bums anyway.
        Julie doesn’t seem to like Jack Nicolson much either, but some women might have liked his wolfish charm, whilst wandering around in a smoking jacket with cocktail in hand.

        • post_x_it

          Read the paragraph about Nicholson again. Julie didn’t pass comment on his charm, or how he looked in a smoking jacket.

    • Mary Ann

      It wasn’t that uncommon. Although more likely to be an arm round the waist with an offer of sex, the second word was off, I’m to polite to use the first word.

  • WFB56

    The Nicholson movie, conveiently forgotten, was “Somethings Gotta Give”. He wasn’t reeling in horror at a naked Keaton, this would have been unlikely as his objective was to bed her. He was, instead, attempting to protect her modesty as was evidenced from her reaction. All the other examples are spot on, but just because Jack has reached the repulsive stage doesn’t mean he should be discussed a la Trump.

  • JamesCovey123

    Breaking News

    Husband sues wife after seeing her without make-up

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/beauty/make-up/husband-sues-wife-after-seeing-her-without-make-up/

  • JamesCovey123

    Australian Justice – Innocent until PROVEN guilty …

    “Maggie Kirkpatrick, a veteran Australian television star who appeared in Home and Away and Prisoner Cell Block H, has been found guilty of sexually assaulting a teenage girl in the 1980s.

    “The girl, who was not named, was in a psychiatric hospital at the time for substance abuse and a personality disorder. Kirkpatrick collected the girl from the hospital and they shared a meal before the assault occurred in the actress’s bedroom.

    “The court heard the victim did not report the crimes until 2013 because she thought she would be accused of being “crazy”.

    “Kirkpatrick denied the charges but the Melbourne Magistrates Court found the victim was a “witness of truth”.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/11813897/Australian-Home-and-Away-actress-Maggie-Kirkpatrick-found-guilty-of-child-sex-offences.html

    No witnesses and no objective evidence.

    • Sue Smith

      Yes, this is a new and disturbing trend in our court system; a case 31 years old which relies on one only witness – the victim. No corroborating evidence; nothing.

      Bring back the Statute of Limitations on these sorts of crimes.

      We should all be very afraid of such “justice”.

      • Gilbert White

        Actually, when the pendulum swings once again, there are going to be some media presenters and legal people finding themselves in prison.

  • Amgine

    When we have fully integrated augmented reality – everyone will be supermodels. I bagsy being a little bit taller, a little bit thinner, a little bit younger and capable of flying to Jupiter on a winged teddy bear.

  • JamesCovey123

    ” women tend to see themselves as less attractive than they are. A sizeable number of men, on the other hand, suffer from the opposite delusion”

    There is absolutely no valid evidence for the above.

    None. Zero.

    You cannot validly determine gender differences on the basis of questions – because the genders might differ from each other in the way that they answer the questions rather than on what the ‘researchers’ claim is the case.

  • davidshort10

    A bit unfair to pick on Jack Nicholson. He is very upfront and once said without his sunglasses he was not JN but just another fat old man.

  • davidshort10

    And people were openly racist too, including coppers and coppers would beat you up. It was a wholly different world. It was very sexist but we didn’t know it at the time.

  • davidshort10

    Don’t forget that Prescott was a very handsome man when he was young.

    • justejudexultionis

      Yes, but still stupid.

    • Jackthesmilingblack

      There’s this story that Brother John was working as a steward on an oil tanker. He was a scruffy slovenly unhygienic git in those days, thumb in the cup of tea, bad BO, thoroughly unpopular. The deck officers wanted to teach him a lesson, so turned the hoses on him. The vessel was in a Norwegian fiord at the time, and he almost died of hypothermia.
      So near, and yet so far.
      Jack, the Japan Alps Brit

    • Mary Ann

      That’s no excuse for sticking a hand up a woman’s skirt without her consent.

  • sally190

    Some people are born oafs, others have oafishness thrust upon them.
    Prescott is King of the Oafs.
    You can tell, as soon as he opens his mouth.

  • Dan O’Connor

    One more time :

    Look , we don’t have time for all this spoilt rotten cosmopolitan liberal poltically correct touchy feely crap.
    The West is in big trouble and facing the most destructive force to its existence since the Ice Age . A bunch of filthy rich psychopaths , and their little career spiv little helpers and their Leftist stasi thought police, have decided to desolve the people and elect a new one

    • SMC

      Not to mention their beefy, thick-headed cops working as the private enforcers for those rich psychopaths. Every time some US cop shoots an unarmed man in the back (which has been happening with horrifying frequency lately, according to the news), the first thing that comes to my stunned mind is *not* “Damn, somebody needs to rein in those Leftist stasi thought police!”

  • GenJackRipper

    All I see is “Buh-hu-hu-hu”

  • kevinlynch1005

    Julie. I think you’re being a tad hypocritical on this topic. The actor Stephen Berkoff of course successfully sued you for similarly nasty insults which went far beyond mere criticism. For the benefit of all, I helpfully attach a link to the case here: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/1996/564.html

    • Callipygian

      ‘Hideously ugly’ is a subjective non-political opinion, and the opinion of one person that was not the plaintiff’s employer or in any direct or even indirect way connected with his employment. It was a frivolous suit and should have been thrown out.

      • Clive

        He makes a living out of being an actor and looks are important in that field

        It would be the equivalent of him saying that she could not spell or that her grammar or punctuation were atrocious

        • Frank Marker

          I thought he was one of those actor’s who wanted to keep it real ‘warts and all’ so to speak.

    • Frank Marker

      Oh he’s such a sensitive soul is Steven. He always tried to portray himself as some EastEnd hard nut so I am rather surprised he didn’t laugh it off and got back to being the darling of the mid 90s Hampstead cognoscenti.

      • kevinlynch1005

        I probably agree, but that’s not the point I was making.

        • Frank Marker

          Point taken. I know it’s very wrong of me but whenever I hear his name mentioned I always give an inward shudder. I can’t just can’t wait for his mime performance of 7/11, on the radio.

  • Callipygian

    While we’re on the subject: apart from chimpanzees and baboons, I think humans the most hideous creatures to walk the Earth (though hyenas would win no beauty prizes either, nor would mole rats). I had to babysit the dog many times this summer, in the car while my husband did the supermarket shopping (we took turns but that is beside the point). When I wasn’t reading my Kindle I was watching the people to and fro. I did not see one single person that might be called pretty or handsome or both. And well over 90% of the men I saw, youngish and old, had a huge pot belly, or a shambling flabby body, and often a raft of tattoos to go with it. (I am not plain, but there is no one I want to engage with, if you catch my drift.) The women were misshapen, like plasticine models an angry child had pushed this way and that. They all dressed like slobs, man and woman alike. I watched them and felt disheartened. THIS is the highest creature on Earth, and we look like THAT. Or THEY do: I don’t! And lord, it’s even worse when they take their shirts off (as so many men, no matter how geriatric, feel entitled to do in the deep South). ‘What a piece of work is man’, indeed. ‘Man is made in the image of God’. It’s enough to make you lose your religion, if any.

    • Frank Marker

      As Colonel Kutz said “The horror!… The horror!… The horror!”
      I have watched Man Versus Food when it visits the deep South and have witnessed some of the walking lard buckets stuffing melted cheese/ deep fried chicken thingies down their throats. I have to say we are not far behind in the obesity table. It always makes me laugh the way these characters walk down the road with their midriffs showing as though no one will notice how monstrous they look. I guess that’s their right and it’s what we fought two wars for… I happen to agree with a notice in Amsterdam (of all places) politely telling people to dress appropriately during the summer months. We could do with something similar in Old Blighty.

      • Callipygian

        Sorry, Frank, I managed to miss your contribution until just now: good comment!

    • ViolinSonaten b minor.

      Ah, these less then attractive humans, with their awfulness on show.
      In Austria ( and most of northern Europe) they do love their nude mixed saunas. Absolutely horrendous in my opinion. I am told I’m a prude and
      what is it about the English and nakedness, its natural, they say. And the
      naked men apparently don’t ogle the naked woman, they apparently provide an towel and that it is. Just very strange are some of our European neighbours.
      Just thank God for clothes, worn correctly. They improve what’s already
      there and hide many imperfections.
      Oh and I saw a heavily tattooed woman in February, she looked freezing as
      she wanted to show off the entire solar system on her arms and chest,
      the sun was on that flabby bit under the arms- less then charming , was that.

      • Mary Ann

        If a man had dressed the same way would you have considered it worthy of comment/

        • ViolinSonaten b minor.

          I certainly would, you see some awful sights, especially when jeans don’t fit properly ( they always wear jeans) wandering along drinking out of cans, gold chains and more tattoos. The lady just stuck in my mind because she was wearing a vest in February and was clearly cold. Maybe she couldn’t afford suitable clothes, who knows.

      • SMC

        “Natural” doesn’t necessarily mean “pleasant to look upon”, e.g. those hideous deep sea fish with the spines all over — angler fish? And most human bodies look bad in cultures almost entirely devoted to sedentary work.

    • Margot

      Absolutely spot-on. It’s good entertainment to people-watch now. But is it just this country that’s so awful? Do you see many pregnant bodies in skimpy t-shirts and skin-tight skirts in other countries? Or the same amount of tattoos? (In passing – will be interesting to see the begging at the NHS’s doors of all the tattooed one in a few years.)

      • Callipygian

        Ah Margot — my people-watching occurred in two small towns, one each side of North Carolina and north Georgia in the USA.

      • Frank Marker

        Yes what the hell is it with tattoos? Back when I were a lad it was only crims and servicemen (I managed to stay free of them during my time in the army) who adorned their forearms with cliched daggers through hearts, or if they wanted to be considered ‘hardmen’, a.c.a.b on their knuckles. Never understood it then, certainly don’t understand it now. It’s not as though it is being ‘rebellious’ either, as everyone from an estate agent from Reigate to a granny from Leamington Spa has one.

        • liamjq

          This is when the fun bit begins…whilst sitting watching the Edinburgh festival acts last week in the High Street the arty cream of youthful Uni vanity I noticed them all distinctly tat-free much the same as I’ve noticed the tat-free (young female)nursing students at my hospital job recently.. the fad is over and a huge diving line will mark out the sad old gits…there will be much weeping,knashing of teeth and demands for NHS laser removal ….vanitas etc etc

          • Stevie Mac

            That’s good news. I never liked them, especially on women.

          • Frank Marker

            I agree. Isn’t it a shame when you pass an attractive woman on the street, but then on closer inspection you notice a japanese dragon crawling all the way up her leg. Total turnoff!

          • Stevie Mac

            yeah it looks trashy and also if the tattoo is big then she can’t be truly naked. The canvas is better than the picture! Its a turn off for me too. That and short hair.

      • Yorkieeye

        I do wonder what will happen when tattoos become deeply unfashionable (and they will). Other countries suffer the same blight, the Maltese are a disgrace.

    • Pacificweather

      I once saw an attractive girl on the Underground: September 1998.

      • Callipygian

        LOL

  • Innit Bruv

    Burchill passing judgement on other people’s looks..
    Talk about pot, kettle and black!

    • Robbydot1

      No she’s not. She’s passing judgement (if you need to put it like that?) on old and often fat/ugly men who have the gall to pass judgement on others, notably women. She’s right on this, most men think they are far more attractive than they are.

      • Innit Bruv

        She’s fat and ugly herself. (She also has the most unfortunate voice.) Hardly in a position to criticise others.
        This article is little more than “projection”.

        • Robbydot1

          Oh FFS, talk about miss the point!

        • MacGuffin

          It’s true – her voice is ridiculous.

          • William_Brown

            She’s got a lovely west country accent – leave her alone! : )

          • MacGuffin

            I didn’t say anything about her accent; I was talking about her VOICE.

      • William_Brown

        Speak for yourself mate.

        I look in the mirror only to check whether I’ve got sleep in my eyes, or spinach between my teeth.

        By the sounds of it, I reckon it’s you who looks in the mirror and thinks “hmmm…I’m bloody gorgeous”.

  • Sue Smith

    I’ve always thought Hugh Heffner was a gay man, disguising the fact by hiding behind bimbos centuries younger than he is. I am still very much of that opinion.

  • Sue Smith

    Here’s a gag:

    A friend was telling his mate that he’d been able to marry a woman 40 years younger than himself. The friend was amazed; “what did you do; tell her you were 60?”

    “No”, replied the man, “I told her I was 95”!!

  • Partner

    Very little thought here to the horror of ugly, fat, stupid and greedy women who are at least as common as lecherous ugly old men.

  • Yusuf B

    Can’t wait for the next article… Julie Burchill, Harriet Harman & other ugly and unhappy feminazi’s

  • Clive

    Nevertheless, women tend to see themselves as less attractive than they are. A sizeable number of men, on the other hand, suffer from the opposite delusion.

    You made that up and it is the basis of the whole piece so this is bollocks

    I know you’ve got to make a living but write about traffic cones or something if you can’t think of anything else

    • Stevie Mac

      I know…and in a critique of men passing judgement on women’s looks, she describes John Prescott as barely human looking.

  • Norris Terse

    If one were to use the many examples of such unprepossessing specimens as Ann Robinson or Katie Hopkins behaving in this way, one could use it as anecdotal evidence that it is a female characteristic. And it would be just as meaningless.

  • Bridget O Donnell

    Is this the same high pitched prejudiced racist writer who is commenting on other peoples prejudice

  • David

    How can burchill slag off Prescott saying he looks ‘barely human’ she looks like him.
    Julie burchill is ugly inside and out.

    • Mary Ann

      You can hardly slag her off for her looks, they are about average, are you any better looking than her?

  • edlancey

    “‘Have you seen his wife? Built like a bloody barn door. If I threw her against the wall, the fucking house would fall down!’”

    I believe that Oscar Wilde expressed a similar sentiment about not wanting to kiss an ugly telegram boy during his trial , albeit in a rather more charming manner, and it put him in the slammer.

    Pity it won’t do the same to Fatscott.

  • Johnny Foreigner

    Another pointless article, I didn’t learn anything, it didn’t bolster any confirmation bias, nor did it bite the arrrse of a pompous vacuous public figure. Are we coming to a point, where there really is no point in looking for ‘it’? It’s all just background noise then.
    Might as well just stare out the window.

  • PeterK10

    Does anyone write original articles anymore, or is this tired subject to be examined and re-examined endlessly by bitter women? The sex that was endlessly hit on and whipped into submission back in the day is now so tiresomely bitter and, therefore, unattractive that the whole lot of them can go to hell.

    Oh wait, we need them to keep the human race going. Forget it…isn’t worth the trouble.

  • johnhenry

    Burchill (stunning avatar, btw) is engaging in all of the same stereotyping that she complains of. Not that I disapprove of stereotypes. My experience is that women – and gays – are far more judgemental of people’s appearances – bodies and clothing – than are straight men.

    I’m neither British or American, but one reason I far prefer British film over American ones is that the women in them look like real people, by which I mean British films don’t shy away as much from actresses with one or two physical flaws, even the leads.

  • William Clark

    Brilliant piece.

    • Ebst

      …of drivel

  • Gilbert White

    Julie baby has never seen women paying for it to use her words in the Gambia and elsewhere?

  • Frank

    Trouble is, for both sexes, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it is probably a duck! As for Lord Prescott, he appears to have done little to suggest that he is anything other than rather stupid and vulgar. Thanks to the Labour party, this fatuous fool is part of public life.

  • greencoat

    It is true that John Prescott is an unusually vile individual. The Lefties would be slavering for his blood if he was on the other side of the political divide.

  • disqus_9I6C4azbIA

    Can we say there are ugly women ?

  • MistyWeaveFishLosh

    Man hater alert!

  • Josh Smith

    Looking forward to the article about why Harriet Harman and Yasmin Alibi-Brown are nasty due to their ugly cow faces.

    • ohforheavensake

      Except they’re not.

      • Josh Smith

        … oh dear.

  • ohforheavensake

    After today, very tempted to ask how attractive Charles Moore is.

  • rtj1211

    Perhaps if it is so dreadful for men to judge women, you should stop judging men? Assuming that plain women can have as much sex as they want and good looking men can’t is sexist drivel of the worst kind. Plenty of plain men get plenty of sex and a number of beautiful women can’t.

    What is it about feminist journalists that allows them to ape misogynistic men?

    Grow up you silly twit and show men the respect you demand they show women…..

  • Skyeward

    Had to laugh at your half-witted American males example. At the PGA a couple of weeks ago, a guy two down from me in a crowd around a green whined loudly to a friend that he couldn’t see Mickelson’s putt because a “fat chick” was standing in his way. I looked him over – 50s, grizzled, wrinkled, flabby and not particularly well-dressed. What a loser.

  • jim

    The world is full of frustrated fat middle aged females furious that no one wants to shag ’em.

    • Bonkim

      Unless they have plenty of dosh!

  • Bonkim

    Money makes old men handsome to attract beautiful women.

  • Patrick_Blankfein

    Like an aesthetic NAZI, a woman obsessed with her appearance. Imagine if she had replaced ‘ugly’, with ‘coloured’; which pretty much sums up the attitudes of self-righteous liberal lefties, who are racist to the core. You should note that the real, sincere racists, don’t talk about race, but make disgusting jibes about people in general, of their own race, safe in the act; cowards that they are. I doubt this one is hitched up with an ‘ugly’ or whatever epithet you chose to replace that with.

  • Dan Squires

    What a terrific article that puts ego in the proper perspective. i have copied and will refer to often.

  • Sue Smith

    In answer to the OP: “when they developed Narcissistic Personality Disorder, cushioned by great wealth”.

  • Ross

    “What do we any of us have but our illusions? And what do we ask of others but that we be allowed to keep them?”

  • Tony Parsons still looks pretty good tho’!

  • itistolaugh

    Does the axiom work the other way: the uglier the woman, the more she hates men? I ask this of you, specifically, Julie Burchill, who look so very much like the smell of sulphur.

  • oregun

    Everyone is piling on Donald Trump and hoping to get some notoriety. This article is some more gender bashing. Yawn!

  • rt5inc

    “Bewigged bell-end” That’s priceless!

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