James Delingpole

‘Free bleeding’ and the stupidly clever feminists who fell for it

A ludicrous hoax trend that almost makes me pity its enthusiasts

15 August 2015

9:00 AM

15 August 2015

9:00 AM

Did you know that tampons were just another brutal expression of the oppressive patriarchy? I must confess that I didn’t either, until the story broke this week about an unfortunate woman who decided to run the London marathon during her time of the month without any panty pads, in ostentatious protest against the alleged male practice of ‘period-shaming’.

I’ll come to the ‘unfortunate’ part in a moment. But first, the background. Her name is Kiran Gandhi (a Harvard MBA and former drummer of the agit-rock collective MIA) and four months ago, she chose to run the London marathon, unencumbered by the ‘absurd’ presence of a chaffing ‘wad of cotton’ wedged between her legs, and blog about her triumph for the delectation of her sisters in the third-wave feminist movement.

‘Someone came up behind me making a disgusted face to tell me in a subdued voice that I was on my period … I was like … wow, I had NO idea!’ recounted Kiran in her blog, wittily titled ‘A Modern Period Piece’.

Kiran, however, was certainly not going to be fazed by such antediluvian finger-wagging. Well, only a bit. ‘I was going through all these crazy thoughts and analyzing whether I was … a crazy chick who needs just to calm down and reach for an effing tampon,’ she confesses. Perhaps, though she doesn’t say this, she might have been better off doing it dressed as a menstruating rhino, or the bottom half of a donkey, or a seven-foot high Tampax bearing the red-painted legend: ‘MEN! THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT’.

Overall, Kiran couldn’t have been happier with the generally enthusiastic response she received. (From those who noticed her statement, anyway. Her decision to wear orange leggings rather than white ones may have detracted from the full effect). ‘The female body is incredible,’ she gasp as she races towards the finish line to the arms of her supportive and not at all embarrassed family.


This week, the story broke in a media starved of anything else to write in the silly season. Most outlets had nothing but praise for Kiran’s principled stance against panty pad-related oppression. ‘Bring on the menstruation revolution: “Donald Trump is going to bloody love it”’, crowed the Guardian. ‘26-year-old woman bleeds proudly through her first marathon,’ exulted Cosmo, having apparently mistaken her for someone who’d climbed Everest blindfolded, with a shark strapped to her back. Better still, perhaps, from Kiran’s point of view, the right-wing media wrinkled its nose in typical phallocentric disgust. ‘Latest feminist craze: free bleeding’, thundered the US website Infowars.

But the readers of these publications — not even the righteous, socially conscious ones — weren’t quite so sure. ‘I’m a girl and even I find that what this woman did is just gross,’ said one. ‘Get a grip love,’ said another. ‘I’m going to do a marathon on Viagra to highlight the fact that some people with penile dysfunction don’t have access to the diamond blue wonder drug,’ quipped an unhelpful male.

Then the sorry truth emerged. Poor Kiran, and the liberal outlets which had applauded her gesture, were the victims of a cruel hoax. It originated last year on a mildly notorious website called 4chan — an internet chatroom favoured by the kind of irreverent pranksters and cynical youths who take unseemly delight in countering the pieties of the ‘social justice warriors’ of the earnest new left.

Already, these hoaxers had enjoyed some success with an earlier campaign, designed to cause division within the new feminist movement by trying to pit girls with skinny, attractive fit bodies against less conventionally beautiful diehards. They invented a concept called ‘bikini bridge’ — the phenomenon where bikini bottoms are suspended between a slim woman’s hipbones causing a dangerously revealing gap. ‘If your girlfriend doesn’t have a bikini bridge, why are you with her?’ asked the caption to a fake advert showing a seductive skinny model. Sure enough, this major new threat to the sensitivities of women worried about their bodies received widespread coverage from the Sydney Morning Herald to the New York Daily News.

So in 2014 — inspired by some crazy idea they’d read somewhere on the internet — the pranksters decided to fake an even more ludicrous trend designed to discredit the radical feminist movement. ‘What is free bleeding? It consists of us womyn bleeding with no restriction … Being able to menstruate is something that is a [sic] undeniably female characteristic. How DARE they try and oppress it,’ read their working notes.

A few helpful tweets later from fake Twitter accounts and ‘free bleeding’ had become an urgent new cause of radical feminism. Eventually word got out among some women’s interest websites that they’d all been had: ‘Free bleeding is not a thing,’ warned one. But it appears the memo didn’t get through to everyone. Hence Kiran Gandhi’s marathon protest.

Does this mean we should all feel terribly outraged on behalf of Kiran? Well up to a point, I’d say. Stripped of its broader social context, her humiliation — even though it wasn’t deliberately inflicted on her personally — does seem a bit ugly and callous and deserving of our pity. But then you ask yourself: ‘Hang on, this girl has got a Harvard MBA, so she’s not exactly thick. Can she really not work out the logic of why it is that over the years we’ve developed certain conventions about the public display of bodily fluids and functions? Has she not considered that these might have been designed at least as much for the comfort of women as men?’

The bigger problem is this: even at Ivy League universities — indeed, perhaps especially at Ivy League universities, not to mention Oxford and Cambridge — the lunatic preoccupations of the radical feminists and social justice warriors, from ‘rape culture’ to ‘intersectionality’, have become so fashion-able and all-consuming that stupid has become the new clever.

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  • Damaris Tighe

    The whole thing (beyond gross) demonstrates that there’s a difference between being intellectual & being intelligent. You can have as many university degrees as you like, but that doesn’t automatically confer common sense & common decency.

    • Alexsandr

      its making me wonder what the point of universities is anymore. Especially when you read about the bullying of anyone doing anything even remotely un-pc. They need to get a grip before people wonder why our hard earned is being wasted on these idiots.

      maybe I am being unfair. Maybe its just the bits that are not proper science based.

      • John Lea

        I did a open access course in Film and Media at the University of Tower Hamlets, and I find your comments both sexist and bigoted and racist and sexist. I said sexist twice because it’s a well known fact that women don’t do science subjects because they’ve been oppressed and stuff.

        • grimm

          I’m basically a simple fellow so please tell me – was that a convoluted attempt at sarcasm?

          • Lawrence13

            I think the ‘racist’ comment was referring to the Marathon in question.

          • freddiethegreat

            Very good!

          • freddiethegreat

            “Tower Hamlets” was a dead giveaway.

      • Socrates

        This made me laugh. I’ve been a victim too ever since my daughter got back from university (Oxford) to lecture me on ‘white male privilege’ and ‘intersectionality’, although I confess to not exactly understanding the latter. I’d always considered myself an old-school leftie but apparently I’m really a new-school racist, sexist dinosaur. I’m delighted to note however that she’s still daddy’s little girl when she needs the car, clubbing money and a holiday somewhere nice!

        • Alexsandr

          i found when my kids were talking cr@p the best was to respond was ‘thats nice dear’ Drives em mad. but they stop spouting the worst stuff at you.

        • Suzy61

          Oh Socrates, I’ve had the same treatment. At age 11 we took over guardianship of our daughter’s best friend, a beautiful Chinese girl. We supported her through school, college and University and she is still considered one of our children.

          A couple of years at Uni and our own girl took to calling us ‘casual racists’ but forgives us because ‘we can’t help it’.

          • grimm

            Good grief. These stories of kids going to university and coming back as moralising little prigs makes me glad they have to pay their own tuition fees.

          • mdj

            It’s not new; my teenage rebellion in the 60s was against my older siblings, members of the most pampered generation in history, who came back from (free) uni to slag off my war-shattered parents and sponge off them at the same time.

          • Sue Smith

            And this is why there is now a generation of entitled, drug-addled and arrogant young people. They’re simply copying their own parents. When you treat your own family and others like this you give permission for the next generation to do the same to you!!! Priceless!!!

          • Sue Smith

            Same. It’s called KARMA. Especially if their career path leads to McDonalds!!! And this will happen if they study humanities or social science, even economics. And they’re the academic courses!!!!!!!!

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Is that what you call your nasty anti-education bigotry? I see.

          • Alexsandr

            education is good. a 3 year fest of being fed lefty stayist crap for £9 grand a year isnt education, nor is it worth much.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            What a surprise, you oppose our Universities. And education. Oh well.

          • Knives_and_Faux

            Leon it’s extremists like you labeling valid criticism of what Universities have become as ‘anti education’ that can’t see what’s happening. You are a complete cliche and to be ridiculed.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Yes yes, of course you see not hating Universities and Education is “extremist”.

            As you demand your totalitarian dogma be followed.

          • andyrwebman

            No, I think he just opposes the subjects which teach lefty crap – women’s studies and the like.
            I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have an issue with labs that churn out exciting new technologies, or cures for diseases.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            That’s not what he said,
            And I’m sure he did, because he did so.

          • Jeffrey Vernon

            Students aren’t hearing this stuff in the lecture room; it’s just part of the student union culture of resentment. There are no more than three or four undergrad women’s studies degrees; and even if every degree in English or Sociology teaches a Gender module, no more than 10% of all students are taking these subjects.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Yea, gotta support high government spending (more expensive than grants in the longer term) and rejoice the people going won’t see a personal benefit from it!

            (The economy will benefit, they won’t).

          • Callipygian

            How appalling for you! (No sarcasm, need it be said.)

          • DellerboyNZ

            Which is a great way of criticising you while retaining, car, room, food etc privileges.
            Who says today’s students can’t think!

          • Sue Smith

            “Think”? I regard that as too sophisticated a concept for what Gen Y and Z are doing; more like ‘instinct’. Followed not too far from “gimme gimme gimme”.

          • freddiethegreat

            There is no Gen X, Y etc. They are all Gen W – wussies

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Yes, of course you don’t see them as Human. Why, you might have to face up to other people not being lesser…

          • Damaris Tighe

            Suzy, how awful for you. It’s like the old Stalinists who turned children against parents.

          • Suzy61

            I was upset…but now I regard it as part of ‘growing up’.
            She is supporting herself and has two very hefty tax bills each year – I think they will prove more persuasive than me. 🙂

          • Sue Smith

            Regarding it as “part of growing up” sounds like ‘enabling’ to me. Very hefty tax bills each year? I agree they will be ‘more persuasive’, but this doesn’t guarantee you’ll get any respect – since you obviously haven’t asked for any before.

            Forgive my cynicism; I’ve raised 5 kids, 4 of whom went to university and not one of whom ever spoke to me (or anybody) like that. One is now a federal government ministerial media adviser, another a self-employed winemaker, the other in the mining industry, one in the business world and the youngest in commercial radio. They’re not perfect, not by any means, but they weren’t brought up in a home where they were taught that the world owed them a living. This would have involved a swift kick up the backside and an invitation to live elsewhere.

            One of my sons lived 300km from home so that he could attend a particular university. His father and I said we’d pay his Uni debt to government ONLY IF he got a Distinction or better. Alas, he ended up with some debt!!

          • Suzy61

            You presume far too much from one example.

            I don’t regard threatening her with homelessness and a kicking would have been an effective way of garnering her respect.

            Funnily enough, unlike your children, she was never given an allowance for us to demand back and she is re-paying her own student loan.

            You see?

            Please, let’s not turn this place into another ‘Mumsnet’.

          • Sue Smith

            Nevertheless, as a retired teacher I saw plenty of kids who had the same attitude as you say your daughter did – and, strangely enough, it was never their fault either!! I guess I’ve just seen too much of spoiled brats who’ve got everything they want and absolutely nothing of what they really need.

            My mother once gave me an excellent piece of advice which I adhered to fervently; ‘discipline your children so that others love them instead of hating them’.

            Homelessness? Don’t be melodramatic; kids are far more resourceful than you give them credit for.

            And I don’t know anything about “Mumsnet” as I’m a grandmother many times over myself now.

          • Suzy61

            Mumsnet is a discussion forum for Mums. Despite the ethos of ‘we are all Mums together’ it allows sanctimonious, self-regarding women to bully and judge other women on how they should raise their children.

            Not nice.

            As you say yourself, despite your best efforts, your children are far from perfect also.

            Let’s not be so quick to judge, eh?

          • Damaris Tighe

            I was a foul daughter Suzy. Now that I’m mature enough to see, I take full responsibility for it.

          • Suzy61

            The truth is Damaris she is a a wonderful daughter and we have endless discussions about ‘the meaning of life…and about lovely shoes and the latest music, her current boyfriend and our family life when she was young….she ‘cares’ what people think of her, maybe a little too much,..but as she grows this will be less important to her…I hope. I brought her up to be her own person and have a healthy disregard of authority so I can hardly complain if her choices are not the same as mine. I love her and encouraged her to be a free thinker – her choices may not be mine but, they are her choices….and that is what I wanted for her.

          • Damaris Tighe

            Indeed – I made my comment because I thought some of the responses you received were a bit unfair!

          • Suzy61

            I appreciate that Damaris. Thank you.

          • oregun

            Well done! I told my children that I would help with school if they had a career plan and saw it through. Their friends were just going to school because they were told by the teachers it was the next step. That is why you see so many young educated people selling fast food. Our schools are not interested in readying them for careers but instead they push the children into the next level and debt with no goals.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So he went to York University eh?

          • Alexsandr

            tax bills are good. shows you are making money.

          • Sue Smith

            Did you say “give me back your allowance”? If not, you were not serious about garnering her respect.

          • andyrwebman

            I think you should call her “a rather ungrateful and rude girl” in exchange. Biting the hand that feeds you is far more contemptible than any so called racism from you, especially as you took her in an looked after her need.

          • Suzy61

            It wasn’t our ‘adopted’ Chinese girl who said it – it was our own daughter. I’m afraid she has labelled us with the stock response of any leftie about anyone who voted for UKIP. She’ll learn.

        • Lawrence13

          There is ‘Marxist Sectionality’ where members of the left should be sectioned.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Of course you’re a good little Orwellian, wanting to push the left into a magical corner of your mind.

          • andyrwebman

            The way to deal with the left is to refuse to pander to their idiocy. At present we do the opposite- give in to their noisier members in the hope that they will stop screaming.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Ah yes, prevent democracy and debate.

            As you ignore what actually happens – no, in fact it’s your far right who are being pandered to, and yet you demand ever more date.

        • Anonymous

          I don’t mean to offend, but if this was my daughter I’d probably go upside her head and remind her she had parents that cared enough about her to send her to the most privileged university on the planet

          • freddiethegreat

            If it was my daughter, she wouldn’t be able to sit for a week.

          • Anonymous

            Don’t be stupid

          • Mr B J Mann

            Free-sitting?

            Or the ordinary kind?!?!?!

          • Lina R

            The kids are indulged – and I blame the parents.

          • Suzy61

            I very much wanted my child to be able to think independently and as much as I would have liked her to think as I do….she is her own person. I suppose that is the risk you take when you send them out into the wider world. I prefer her to learn from her own experiences…and then eventually agree with me! 🙂

          • Alexsandr

            kids go through a phase. About 15 their parents become idiots. then when they get to about 25, their parents suddenly start talking sense again…!

        • Sue Smith

          Your daughter has plenty of time to ponder her new found enlightenment as she stands at the back of the dole queue. Can she say, with full sincerity, “will that be fries to go with that?”

          And it sounds like she’s hideously over-indulged by you. NOW her ideology makes complete sense. She’s arrogant and entitled. A nicer person just doesn’t speak to her parents this way.

        • DaveAtherton20

          Intersectionality is when it comes to victim poker how good a hand you have. The pocket Aces of intersectionality is to be an LGBT woman, disabled and from an ethnic minority.

          Basically if you have one “disadvantage” do you have others. White middle class, straight blokes are beneath contempt.

          • andyrwebman

            Deadful, isn’t it? A race to be as weak and helpless as possible, rather than celebrate your strengths.

            No wonder Margaret Thatcher said feminism had never done anything for her.

        • Mr B J Mann

          “‘intersectionality’, although I confess to not exactly understanding the latter.”

          They meant inters-xuality.

          But they had to write it that way to get past the auto-c3ns0r!

      • Mc

        I’ve come across a few people in my time with “hard” science degrees (physics, maths, medicine) who confirm Damaris Tighe’s point: a difficult degree that presumably requires intelligence and sound reasoning skills isn’t actually guaranteed to instill basic logical thinking. Additionally, often such graduates are barely literate and many haven’t read literature outside of their discipline.

        • 30characters

          Maths is not a science; which might explain Mr. Whipple’s daft comment.

      • freddiethegreat

        Unless you are doing something technical, there is no point anymore. Skip the textbooks and read the graffiti on walls.

        • Erin Wallace

          Anti-intellectualism abounds.

      • Mr B J Mann

        “its making me wonder what the point of universities is anymore”

        In the UK the point is to keep kids who weren’t academic enough for O Levels off the streets and off the dole queue for a few more years!

        Oh, and to help fund the salaries of academics through loans!!!

      • Leon Wolfeson

        Well of course, education is the enemy to you. I know, it’s so tough, as you whine you can’t discriminate like you used to…as you ignore students pay their own way now…and as I’m sure you want to grab people…oh, common assault. Right.

        • Alexsandr

          Oh they pay jtheir own way do they?. How many student loans will end up unrepaid? Do you really think some of the mickey mouse degrees will make enough earnings to trigger repayment? I suspect a significant proportion. And the taxpayer picks up the liability.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            That’s a problem with the government’s model for repayments. As you whine that out utterly unremarkable graduation rate is too high, and as you ignore the fact that there’s under half the diversity of degrees of offer there were in the mid 1980’s, when we did indeed have some too specialist ones.

            Tell me, what would you think for instance of… a VFX or 3D Art University course? (This is a trap)

            The taxpayer is only “liable”, again, because of the Government’s ****ty planning. Blaming students for that is wrong.

          • Alexsandr

            No. I blame tony Blairs government and their silly policy to have 50% of kids doing degrees. That meant dumbing down of degrees, and the grade inflation in O and A levels so it looked like the uni applicants were capable of doing a degree. Pity some could not write English.
            A degree should be something special for the gifted, not a bauble for the many.

            And by sending so many kids to university that deprived industry of good people to do many jobs that needed training but not a degree. Plumbers, gas fitters, builders, cnc laithe operators, computer programmers. Jobs that needed on the job training and sandwich courses, not a degree.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you call out graduation rates “silly”. When, again, out graduation rate is entirely unexceptional for a first world country, and indeed has been falling for nearly a decade now.

            Of course you want to downskill Britain dramatically. We need actually vocational training AND university degrees, not one or the other!

            (Germany has too few graduates, for instance, and is reliant on importing them…our lack is in sufficient proper vocational training!)

          • Alexsandr

            sorry, dont understand.
            this is how I see it.

            I reckon 30% with academic degrees
            a big mass of people with good level vocational qualifications. Like HND’s. I am sure that many jobs with degree level entry could use HND’s. Nursing for example where much of the learning is actual skills rather than book learning. City and Guilds are another level.

            Then there are NVQ’s for lower skilled jobs.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So we’re importing a quarter (or even a third) of the degree-level workers we need then, or going without that business.

            Downskilling degree-level jobs, to simple technicians ones where the people using them are mere users is a major loss in both wages and to the jobs. It’s a good way to ensure that the actual higher-level work occurs in other countries!

            Meanwhile Nursing qualifications…take the same time regardless if it’s done as a degree or a lesser qualification, and most Nurses who don’t do it as a degree end up, to access higher pay grades and positions doing an academic catch-up anyway!

            And NVQ’s are just *one* part of the vocational training we need!

          • Alexsandr

            well for a start there are quite a few graduates who have learned ‘do you want fries with that?’ as their on the job training.
            I remain unconvinced many jobs need a degree. I dont believe one is needed for computer jobs. (like mine – I have a non computing degree)
            I think nurses would be better trained with more ward time and less theory. I fear many think feeding patients and getting involved with spilled bodily fluids is beneath them. You dont learn care in a lecture.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            The problem there being Torynomics, not graduates.

            And I see, you want to eliminate, for starters, the entire creative media sector… (Because, yes, a good theoretical grounding is necessary for a high proportion of the jobs in it)

            The balance of ward time and lectures for Nurses can be discussed inside the framework of their qualification – there’s no need to change it’s level for that!

            The reality is that there’s both a rise in the proportion of jobs which need a degree over the last four decades, and a rise in the proportion of jobs where companies demand a graduate.

            Britain can’t go it’s own way on that without ending depriving ourselves of a lot of jobs, and limiting the prospects of British people.

          • andyrwebman

            If we’re importing so many degree level workers whilst there are many unemployed graduates, surely it’s because our young people are studying useless rubbish at Uni that our businesses don;t need.

            Meanwhile I hear of chemistry departments being threatened with closure because there isn’t enough uptake from young people.

            It’s not education per se I complain about, it’s the useless crap pretending to be education.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            No, it just means that we’re a developed country and workers come and go.

            And so, you just object to everything but a few topics, I see, as you demand Britain downskills. And isolates itself. Never mind the damage you’d do.

            (Germany, of course, shows what even part of what you’d do causes – they import graduates).

      • colchar

        Google ‘feminist jazz hands’. Seriously, they’re a thing now.

      • andyrwebman

        Too many useless subjects based on nothing more than debate and no hard empiricism to back it up.

        Not penis envy but science envy

    • AJH1968

      Common sense tells you to wipe your bum, therefore if you are a woman you should take the appropriate steps (it is all about personal hygiene). It has nothing to do with personal freedom for women, that battle has been won by a far better class of feminist. The current crop of faux feminists beggar belief.

      • Damaris Tighe

        All very yucky, isn’t it. But more fool them for being so stupid & over-educated that they took this spoof seriously.

        • AJH1968

          Congratulations to the spoofer’s, look forward to their next ‘outrage’.

      • Ned Costello

        Don’t you dare oppress me! Free Defecation NOW!

        • Lawrence13

          Stop talking shit

        • mdj

          Hasn’t one P Radcliffe already established this one?

          • Ned Costello

            Apologies then, but “great minds” and all that.

        • Roger Hudson

          You try buying a proper squat toilet in the UK.

        • andyrwebman

          I’m “following through” for the free farting movement.

      • Lawrence13

        Western values on ‘bum wiping’ are based on a tissue of lies

        • Mickster66

          Feminists wipe their bums on Gender Rolls, bunch of Msandrex’s.

          • Emasculated

            poop

      • freddiethegreat

        Feminism is just updated penis envy.

      • Ade

        “Tummy trouble” is a frequent occurrence during Marathons, and I seem to remember one female winner of London (?) being struck with it…

      • MacGuffin

        They are silly little girls looking for ways to bully each other.

    • Kennybhoy

      I would go further and say that there is a difference between intelligence and common sense.

      “There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.” George Orwell (atrib.)

      • post_x_it

        Yes, quite.
        This is always my reaction when I see one of those studies saying that left wingers are much more intelligent than right wingers. My leftie friends never fail to gloat about this stuff.
        My response is that the people who planned the Soviet economy were very clever indeed. Their IQs were probably off the scale. But that didn’t provide them with the common sense to see that reality has a habit of not behaving according to plan.
        I’m told that this is a “straw man argument”.

        • Sue Smith

          Marx, Engels, Lenin – all incredibly intelligent but also guilty of industrial-strength naivete and plain stupidity. Each may have been an expert of some kind, but this is expertise on the wing of a fly. To be successful in life a person must be across MANY issues at the same time. Survival depends upon it!!

        • AnneCink

          I worked in schools with many of these multi-degreed people. Seemed like the more degrees they had, the less common sense they had. Some couldn’t work out how to get from point A to Point B in a task. They knew where to start and what the outcome should be, but had no concept of the work it took to accomplish the task.

        • Leon Wolfeson

          Yes, because they’re not commies.

          Neither the right or left is a monodimension with a single view.

          • post_x_it

            You’ve missed the point.
            The point is that higher intelligence does not translate into better ability to govern.
            Other ingredients are required.

          • EzioMeisterOfDerWill

            Exactly! If a young earth creationist with a 190 IQ explained to you his young earth creation theory, would you be more likely to believe him because of his hyper high IQ? You shouldn’t be, because when we’re dealing with facts and logic, only facts and logic matter.

        • andyrwebman

          The trouble is that all intellectualism is not the same.

          E.g. Engineering graduate builds new hyper efficient motor which revolutionises the world – he has objective evidence that his ideas work.

          Women’s studies student writes waffling essay about the patriarchy, gets a first class degree by doing nothing more than pandering to some highly subjective ideas shared by her professor.

          The sad thing is that people who call themselves “intellectuals” are more often the second type.

        • EzioMeisterOfDerWill

          Show your friends the appeal to authority fallacy: Just because lefties have higher IQ’s, doesn’t mean anything. If they’re going to claim leftist ideology is better, ask them for empirical proof to back their (otherwise meaningless) claim up. Socialism has never worked. All lefties ever do is engage in circle-jerk, and very rarely can they back up anything with cold, hard facts. I encourage you to deeply research left vs right on the basis of fact, and then go back to them to debate. You’ll need your facts and history, because lefties always like to play semantic word games, and shift goal posts around. I suggest getting them to completely detailing their case for, to the point where there is nothing left to explain, and then go in for the kill.

      • Erin Wallace

        “Ideas so absurd…” Like the absurd idea that the woman who free bled during a marathon was inspired by 4chan? Anyone who’s read feminist literature or participated in feminist discourse of the past 40 years knows that 4chan didn’t create the concept of free bleeding. The idiot who wrote this didn’t do his research because he knows he’s only preaching to the choir. Let’s face it. You don’t need much to convince a bunch of knuckle dragging ignoramuses to continue to hate women. The genius who wrote this article is a liar, the kind of trash who puts climate change in quotation marks (because that’s a hoax too!).

        • Harry Pond

          What is this ‘climate change’ you speak of, seems to have passed me by. Please enlighten me.

          • Erin Wallace

            Oh, it’s just been confirmed for decades by scientific evidence. Not that that means anything you. I’m tired of talking to senile old farts and crackpots.

          • Steve Moxon

            Evidently he’s tired of bothering with uber-tedious hate-mongering nutcases like you. … who can’t spot even the most blatant wind-up

          • Erin Wallace

            I seem to have wound you up, judging by the fact that you’re now sifting the comments for my name to butt into conversations you aren’t part of.

          • Steve Moxon

            It’s 4 amusement, mi owd fruitcake hate-monger.

          • MacGuffin

            Erin Wallace, you seem like a very angry and bitter person. Could it be that you are troubled by your failure to clean behind the fridge?

          • Steve Moxon

            Well surely, given this thread, it seems that trouble with fanny maintenance is her issue.

          • MacGuffin

            Is Erin Wallace a free bleeder? Is she free bleeding right now?

          • Steve Moxon

            It’s quite hard not to say a Spoonerism, ‘flea breede’r, which she’s likely to be with hygiene like that!
            But I daresay she’s an advocate in theory rather than practice.

          • MacGuffin

            Erin Wallace, is this true? Have you really not freed your mind and loins from rapacious patriarchal capitalism to embrace the free bleeding revolution? Are you not a Friend of Flo?

            The revolution will not be tamponized!

          • Fitchers Bird

            Sorry, are you implying that because she disagrees with you, she might be menstruating? Because only a hormone-addled woman (who is utterly mad for 1 week per month) would disagree with your exceedingly valid points?

          • MacGuffin

            No, I want to know her level of commitment to the free-bleeding revolution that is sweeping the nation. Is she just talking the talk, or is she walking the walk?

          • Rob

            “Is she free bleeding right now?”

            more likely to be foaming at the mouth.

            sounds likes rebecca minnock on her day off

          • vieuxceps2

            This is a publlc forum. There are NO conversations that are not for general debate. Othewise, Why would you comment?

          • Rob

            …and haven’t you just done the same?

            that would be your insecurity and paranoia.

            plus your inability to understand how social media works.

            I believe there is a bridge and three goats waiting for you.

            – remember to take you blood pressure tablets before you respond.. 🙂

          • Erin Wallace

            97% of climate scientists assert that climate change is real. You are the lunatic minority. Everyone else sees that.

          • Steve Moxon

            Have I said anything at all about climate change?
            No.

          • Erin Wallace

            So then why are you on here defending the idiot rantings of a Heartland lunatic? Because MRAs and climate change denialist are on the same side. They are petrified of what social change implies for them and their undeserved privileges.

          • Steve Moxon

            Defending? Hardly. I pointed out to you he couldn’t give a toss about your rabid ranting and that you are so missing any social skills that you can’t spot it.
            The only “petrified” folk are femi-fascists like you who can’t cope with being women. And talk about “undeserved privilege”: that’s the hallmark of femi-Nazis like you in particular and in may respects women generally.

          • Kennybhoy

            Is this parody?

          • Knives_and_Faux

            Sadly this is how wimmins studies radicalisation turns out, daft bints thinking soiling themselves publicly gets one over on the ‘patriarchy’.

          • AJH1968

            Regarding Ellen, I am reminded of the the old saying, ‘it is always better to be thought of as a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt ‘. That being said this thread has been rather fun hasn’t it?

          • vieuxceps2

            No,alas,There are many such as Erin .

          • Rob

            “Is this parody?”
            No .. its what happens when you combine the muppet show with feminism

          • Erin Wallace

            Is this about you, Steve? “Moxon, ranked one of the ten most powerful people in ‘men’s rights’ by website ‘theantifeminist’, was dropped as a UKIP candidate in local elections for expressing sympathy with Norwegian mass-killer Anders Breivik on his blog earlier this year, and has also described claims against Jimmy Savile as ‘hysteria’.” Who’s a crazy hate-monger? http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/11/21/steve-moxon-women-business_n_2170854.html

          • Steve Moxon

            Hey, Mzz ‘My tampon RAPED me’:
            * Claims against Savile most certainly are “hysteria” — and that’s putting it mildly; as everyone is coming to realise in the wake of the nonsense re Rolf, Heath, etc, etc.
            * Never “expressed sympathy” with Breivik. His spree murder was at best appalling. Pointed out the scholarship re ‘identity politics’ he cited is accurate and not to be dismissed in usual stupid ‘guilt by association’.
            Too hard fer yer brain cell to grasp?
            Only a complete femascist retard could try to characterise standing up again rabid bigotry as somehow crazy or hateful.
            The very opposite.
            Craziness and hate-mongering is your department.

          • Jeffrey Vernon

            There may be merit in campaigns about global warming, but the 97% figure is wrong. This has to be true, just from first principles; there is no consensus as overwhelming as this, for example, about far more objective and simple questions like the cause of diabetes (even though we have millions of diabetes and thousands of physiologists studying them). Cook et al 2014 collected 12000 papers on climate change, written by 29000 authors. They asked 8500 of the authors for their view on man made warming. 1200 authors replied; of these, 97% agreed. It turns out that 97% really means 4%.

          • andyrwebman

            I would advise to everyone here not to let the issue of climate change become mixed up with the issue of feminism.

            Serious scientists beleive in climate change, but the same type of serious scientists will say that feminism is grossly unscientific.

          • andyrwebman

            4% of those overall, but unless they chose a massively biased sample the chances are that it is a pretty good reflection of the whole.

            Do yourself – and right wing politics in general – a favour. Treat climate change as a separate issue to everything else, to be answered by long term study and experiment, rather than political affiliation.

            The left have siezed on it as a tool the batter the corporations – take the moral high ground and insist on detailed science instead.

            Above all, don’t let it infect debates like this.

          • Jeffrey Vernon

            I believe that Erin brought it up as an example of patriarchal mystification; she called an opponent ‘the kind of trash who puts climate change in quotation marks’. I don’t myself see climate change as a matter of gender or class, but it seems that some feminists do. As for scientific consensus; we teach undergraduates in their first data/methods course that expert opinion is the lowest form of evidence. If at most 35% of papers in the Cook sample contain data in support of GW, it is not persuasive to learn that 97% of authors *expressing a view* really, really sincerely believe that it’s taking place. What I suppose or suspect about my own field is not strongly backed up by the available data, and it is well to keep the two apart.

          • Dodgy Geezer

            …4% of those overall, but unless they chose a massively biased sample the
            chances are that it is a pretty good reflection of the whole….

            Funny you should say that. Because they DID chose a massively biased sample.

            Their original survey of ‘all scientists’ got them the figure of 4%. So they dropped data from everyone apart from people who were specifically studying climate change. That gave them 97% – by only asking those who were PAID TO BELIEVE in climate change…

          • Knives_and_Faux

            The 97% figure stands up to no scrutiny whatsoever, the actors who wear lab coats to sell washing powder must be towering geniuses to people of your ability.

          • andyrwebman

            I’m inclinced to believe in climate change myself – I think it’s an objective issue, to be answered by hard science and experiment.

            Its politicisation reflects badly on both sides of the debate.

            What this has to do with feminism and idiots who think it’s great to bleed is beyond me.

          • Harry Pond

            cobblers

          • Whothehell Cares

            ” I’m tired of talking to senile old farts and crackpots. ”
            Good. Now keep your mouth shut and you may look intelligent for a moment.

          • Scylla

            “No sense of humour at all.”

        • Steve Moxon

          Do you not see what a laughing-stock nutcase you are?!
          Even extreme man-hating femascist loonies can see that ‘free bleeding’ is not exactly a rallying cry to appeal to anyone but the most ludicrous ideo-numpties.

          • Erin Wallace

            Actually, I took a look at your chaotic and embarrassing website and I could say the same about you. You and Dilingpole et al are the real fringe loonies, the laughable marginal cult of reality deniers. The only reason you have any sort of platform at all is that criminal corporations and a corrupt elite throw obscene amounts of dollars at you, your stupid conferences, your puppets, and prostitute scientists.

          • Steve Moxon

            Wha hey! Hardly chaotic. And I’m real chuffed with all of my published papers and how they’ve gone down — especially with the likes of you. Hee hee..
            And I never knew I was so rich!
            Now, mi owd fruitcake, have you tried ‘free pee-ing’?
            Or ‘free dumping’?
            ‘Free bogey-mining and flicking, perhaps?
            Now that would really put femascism on the map!
            Come on: admit you’ve ‘brain’-stormed such down the batty wymyn’s shelter.

          • Dougie

            Doesn’t everyone deserve a platform, or is it only people who agree with you?

          • Freddythreepwood

            We don’t do dollars here. It may surprise you to learn that many places in the world don’t do dollars.

        • colchar

          You’re a special kind of stupid aren’t you?

        • Kennybhoy

          Take some lessons in basic English comprehension and re-read the article with particular attention to the two paragraphs begining at: “So in 2014 — inspired by some crazy idea they’d read somewhere on the internet — the pranksters decided to fake an even more ludicrous trend designed to discredit the radical feminist movement…”

          Incidentally. I am curious Miss/Mrs/Ms/Whatever W. I note that you signed up to Disqus just to contribute to this discussion. I am sure oor Maister D is flattered, but how exactly did you hear about this article? I note that your Miss/Mrs/Ms/Whatever Gandhi is a drummer. Is there some sort of talking drum system among you lot? Listening to those infernal drums has been known to drive a person mad y’know… 🙂

        • Knives_and_Faux

          You’re a real catch Erin, that must be it we ‘hate women’ that’s the only possible conclusion…

        • Grace Ironwood

          “You don’t need much to convince a bunch of knuckle dragging ignoramuses to continue to hate women”
          Erin, do you sincerely believe that this is what’s going on here?

          What about laughers like myself – Oppressed ? False consciousness ?

          • andyrwebman

            I think she’s after claiming intellectual property for the idea!

            What would the royalties be paid in? Blood stained undies?

        • andyrwebman

          Hating feminism and its ridiculous ideas is not the same as hating women – any more than disdain for the labour party is disdain for all working people.

          Feminists do NOT represent women in their entireity.

        • Paul Jackson

          So you’re basically saying that this individual feminist wasn’t gulled into believing that this is a real feminist issue by 4chan because feminists are quite idiotic enough to come up with it themselves, thank you very much.
          The phrase ‘beyond parody’ springs to mind.

          • Erin Wallace

            So you’re basically saying that you didn’t read my post. The words “illiterate” and “gullible” come to mind. There is no “individual feminist”, you fucking retard. It’s a movement of women as a social class. You wouldn’t know a thing about it because, like I said, you don’t/can’t read.

          • Paul Jackson

            Calm down dear!

          • Rob

            –There is no “individual feminist”, you fucking retard.–

            so why do we have all these video that start with

            “I’m a feminist because…..” ?

            BTW – maybe you should see a doctor about your tourette’s otherwise you sound like an incredibly uneducated person who can’t manage an argument without swearing..

      • EzioMeisterOfDerWill

        Let me fix mistake that for you:

        “There are some ideas so absurd that only a feminist could believe them.” George Orwell (atrib.)

        Much better.

      • Hzle

        Not sure that “common sense” is a single thing. You can be streetwise or wise to the fact that politicians and cults are trying to manipulate you.

        Anyway – as for clever fools – I think you do get people who are very articulate, and who go to university and do an arts degree who then (even in Oxford) haven’t got a good grasp of logic & the scientific method.

        They haven’t been taught these two things! Some even go as far as to think that secience is “just one of many narrative”, or that science, maths & logic are constructs of the patriarchy and therefore designed to oppress women etcetc

        They can talk forever, they can learn verbal arguments – but they prefer to do rhetoric and politics – they even learn to avoid rational argument, or to decry it as “mansplaining”

    • Andrew Smith

      I think it’s something to do with being shut out from the pressures of the real world where the things you do actually matter and bring immediate consequences. I learnt al lot more about economics from discussions with small businessmen than ever I did on my Economic history courses. Ordinary people with a bit of common sense beats “clever” theory any day. Especially in our top universities, where being clever is often confused with the ability to make debating points faster than everyone else.

      • freddiethegreat

        Which is why Thatcher (grocer’s daughter) was better than any Eco professor or graduate

        • Jeffrey Vernon

          I don’t suppose that she spent her childhood weighing out boiled sweets for the customers. She worked in polymer chemistry after she graduated, but that’s not an obvious training in supply side economics either. I think her muscular political style came from her barrister training.

      • post_x_it

        Yes, lots of lefties are avid readers of Krugman and Stiglitz who encourage them to think that government should spend spend spend. They throw this stuff in my face and ask me if I think that such clever people, Nobel prize winners even, could really be wrong.
        Yes, they could.

        • andyrwebman

          Krugman – never was a nobel prize deserved less than in his case.

    • Grace Ironwood

      Didn’t Kiran and supporters ever think that by ostentatiously flaunting their capacity to menstruate, they are oppressing other women like Caitlyn who can’t menstruate and don’t have properly bloody vaginas?

      Insensitive cis boors flaunt their privilege !

      • post_x_it

        I’d like to laugh at your post, but today’s joke is tomorrow’s 38degrees campaign.

        • Grace Ironwood

          Well yes, it is a current campaign: a prestige women’s college in the US
          cancelled its yearly (!) performance of “The Vagina Monologue” in deference to those women who will never menstruate and don’t have vaginas.
          The same divergence of interests has been replicated around the West will some feminists have been persecuted with campaigns of personal destruction and closed down by the advanced thinkers if they to speak publically..
          Hilarious. 🙁

    • porcelaincheekbones

      Credentialism.

    • Sue Smith

      Absolutely spot on!! A university is a sheltered workshop – particularly for those who study ‘humanities’ and social sciences.

      • Leon Wolfeson

        What a surprise, you hate on Universities and ignore things like graduation employment rates.

        • andyrwebman

          What about graduate unemployment rates – whilst we import skills from abroad? I’d say business is not exactly clamouring for everybody’s skills.

          But you’re trying to obfuscate this by lumping all types of education in together.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            That’d be Torynomics as an issue. And yes, all developed countries have some degree of flow of labour.

            Then you accuse me of something unrelated.

    • UKSteve

      You beat me to it (as often!)

    • audubon crosby

      Voltaire said it best; “The problem with common sense is, it’s not very common”

    • andyrwebman

      As a science graduate, I’d like to say that the majority of us geeks – whilst being absent minded bumblers on occasion – do NOT fall for this sort of crap.

      It’s the soft subject types who are seduced by this illogical pseudo intelletualism.

      • Damaris Tighe

        Indeed, & hopefully there are still humanities & social science students in the better university departments who don’t fall for this rubbish either.

    • Sean44SS

      I agree with you, Damaris. I agree with you 100%!!!

    • Ambientereal

      Well, in spite of her lack of intelligence, she must have realized by now that the tampon is not obligatory, that no one is “imposing” it on her. By the way the running shoes where invented by men too, why not running barefoot?

    • IIlI

      she’s an indian woman. in india, you can urinate and defecate anywhere you like. why not bleed too? she’s bringing indian culture to the west.

  • AJH1968

    The whole pc social justice cause has taken us down the rabbit whole from the surreal into the realm of the absurd. From free bleeding to the Bruce Jenner freak show I do not know if I should laugh or cry, or perhaps do both.

    • kevinlynch1005

      Alternatively, you might consider doing neither; you can simply ignore it all and carry on as you were.

      • Giuseppe Cappa

        I think I will move to El Salvador.

    • MacGuffin

      Caitlynn will never bleed all over your nice new sofa, give her that.

    • porcelaincheekbones

      They think the power of belief can make their fictions real.
      It’s literally magical thinking.
      Tell them “there is only one truth and objective reality” and they freak.

  • ViolinSonaten b minor.

    We don’t use tampons etc because of the ” oppressive patriarchy ”
    You do because its messy, smells, stains everything and very unhygienic, why on earth would you want sticky warm blood running down your legs.
    Also what about what about the fact that blood is a bio – hazard- diseases !
    This truly disgusting marathon runner also shaves her armpits, so razors are not
    ‘ oppressive patriarchy’ so therefore she’s not boycotting every feminine product.
    What if men felt they are being oppressed it they cant ejaculate everywhere?
    What has happened to civility, this is barbaric in the extreme.

    • Jankers

      “What if men felt they are being oppressed it they cant ejaculate everywhere” we do ejacultae everywhere, we just don’t feel the need to write a blog about it. That’s patriarchy!

      • Fraziel

        Brilliant,lol

      • Lawrence13

        You are so right sir, its time for men to take this in-hand

      • Annette

        No, they just cover the Internet in it.

        • Jankers

          internets a big place Annette, there’s room for everybody.

    • Blindsideflanker

      It was a bit of exhibitionism, daring people to object to their actions, so they could then go into a pre planned rant.

      • Callipygian

        Will there be a recording contract to follow this stunt for the chanseuse (or whatever she does in that band)?

    • Fraziel

      Cat Boyd extremist left winger militant feminist and the founder of the Radical independence campaign in Scotland that campaigned hard for independence doesnt shave her armpits, Why? She is standing up to and objecting to oppressive patriarchy. I wonder if she cottoned on to this.

      • Lawrence13

        I heard she’s joining with Arthur Scargill so what with that and not shaving, we can expect ‘trouble down at pit’.

    • freddiethegreat

      Did dogs follow her around the course?

    • andyrwebman

      Not only that, but what happened to women taking pride in the accomplishments of their minds, rather than the least enjoyable functions of their bodies?

  • stag

    These people are fools, Harvard or not.

    • Callipygian

      Harvard churns out a lot of them these days.

  • Jankers

    Just don’t ask her to step out of the swimming pool.

  • Gilbert White

    Saw a woman a woman in hijab take out a left breast to suckle an infant in a bistro!

    • Anti_Theist

      Any photos?
      Seriously I thought no you’re kidding but on the other hand nothing surprises me these days.
      I always find it ironic the number of women wearing hijab etc to stop themselves being attractive and therefore raped by men, who also wear makeup, high heels, tight trousers etc etc.

      • Sten vs Bren

        Oh, Gawd. Not all ladies’ clothing is a message to you.

      • Annette

        So high heels, makeup, tight trousers is to be attractive and therefore be raped by men?

        You do know it’s possible to like the look of somebody without hurting them, right?

        • Anti_Theist

          Apologies you missed the sarcasm 🙂
          The point I was making there was that Muslims believe that if a woman is raped it is her fault for making herself attractive to men.

    • Damaris Tighe

      So breast ok but hair not?

      • Gilbert White

        Not for me to attribute but would she had done it in a halal eating house instead of a major chain. Most muslim men are protective of motherhood and children.

      • AJH1968

        Keeping abreast of the situation neither hair nor there. Forgive the play on words D; ludicrous I know, but I could not resist.

        • Damaris Tighe

          … and it didn’t go tits up.

      • Mr B J Mann

        Apparently so, I’ve heard of a Muslim mother surprised with both exposed and guess which she rushed to cover?!

        • Damaris Tighe

          Sadly, there have been cases in Islamic countries where male rescue services have refused to rescue girls because they wouldn’t touch them or the girls weren’t veiled. Talk about skewed values …

  • WFB56

    This should lead people to question the admissions process at Harvard if this is the best they can do.

  • The original Mr. X

    ‘I was going through all these crazy thoughts and analyzing whether I was … a crazy chick who needs just to calm down and reach for an effing tampon,’ she confesses.

    Spoiler alert: she is.

  • Simon Fay

    “apparently mistaken her for someone who’d climbed Everest blindfolded, with a shark strapped to her back”

    This is just patriarchal sour-grapes, like bringing charges against someone who repeatedly cries “Rape” from years confined in a sexual Auschwitz like the present society. Progressive-minded pioneers like me will continue to drop our trousers in public, empty our bowels copiously before the shocked kulaks in B&M, and see off the reactionary running-dogs of genocidal-hygiene with defiant ripostes like “Take THAT, Pope Adolf Slave-Master!!”

  • enephanus

    Nice to read this online 2 days before it has been published 😀

  • Pepperless

    Seem Ivy League education is a waste of money and time they come out more stupid than ever

  • logdon

    Bang goes the new beige sofa.

  • Roob Longstep

    Well the author has sadly and embarrassingly missed the primary point of the act, which was to raise awareness of the reality women without access to sanitary products face across the world, especially in war zones & those fleeing war zones – something I can only imagine (as a woman) and the author cannot even comprehend. By writing this bitchy, bitter piece he’s silencing the very ethical and important message underlying the protest. This wasn’t just a ‘woo free flow!’ thing – again, read interviews with Gandhi herself and she explains many more reasons: another being the fact she gets very heavy periods. She would have to stop throughout the race to change her tampon which compromises her race time – so why should she? The message therein is not ‘oh women everywhere let’s just bleed all the time ‘cos we’re stupid feminists hahahahah!!!!!!!!’, it suggests that when it’s more practical to just let it all flow out (in this incidence) then a women should be able to do so without being shamed. This protest also (if you’re interested in doing any kind of contextual research rather than just straw manning feminism to have your little whine) speaks to larger debates and protests occurring across the board against the current rate of tax on sanitary products, which is absurdly high. Applaud all round Spectator, keep on free flowing with the top quality journalism and maybe give this guy some time off.

    • BarbaryTourist

      I’m the same when I have the raging trots at work. I can either go to the toilets to lay a cable every so often and, horror or horrors, compromise my productivity, or I can just shit my pants at the desk. I’m striking a blow for people who aren’t blessed with good toilet facilities, I tell you!

      • Kennybhoy

        lol!

      • UKSteve

        And also for those consuming their cheese and pickle sandwiches, I’d say!

        • JS

          For God’s sake, don’t mention sandwiches!!!

          • UKSteve

            I’m just a ‘silly, twisted boy’!

    • OtterMatt

      “I bet you’re wondering why they call me ‘Rube’, huh?”
      “No, I think I’ve got that one figured out on my own.”

    • Mc

      The beauty and irony of your comment is that it could’ve been written by those 4chan pranksters (admittedly on a rather uninspired day). With some luck, your text will inspire them to create an even more outlandish ruse to convince feminists that they’re being oppressed by the patriarchy.

      • Roob Longstep

        Patriarchy doesn’t exist you idiot it’s a myth

        • Mc

          I’ll mention that to a feminist next time I attend my local SJW Chapter and anticipate leaving the venue with a lot of spittle on my face, a very scratched face and bruised swannicles.

    • Kennybhoy

      Er did you miss the bit about who/what inspired this “protest”? Or are you another 4chaner on the wind up? 🙂

      • AJH1968

        Somebody needs to get laid, Roob sounds very frustrated.

        • Kennybhoy

          🙂

        • Annette

          I think you’re projecting.

    • Zarniwoop

      How about the current rate of tax on toilet paper, which is absurdly high. and everyone uses it

      But seriously if you want to engage in swinish behavior go ahead roll around in blood shit and piss for all I care it’s still dirty

      • Annette

        The point it that EVERYone uses it. It’s not a tax on one gender.

        • Zarniwoop

          ah I get it we should only bleat if it applies to women

  • Roob Longstep

    Also note how the author is trying to make out Gandhi is ‘humiliated’ – you think she gives a shit about your moaning accusations of lunacy? You do realise that all of you, by sitting here squirming about a bit of blood and whining ‘ohhh hygiene’ ‘ohh what has become of our Universities’ are just delivering exactly the reaction the whole protest is designed to enrage – you are, in other words, proving her very point. Well done.

    • MacGuffin

      Actually, we’re all laughing and mocking, not squirming and whining. Learn the difference, because I can tell you are often the target of it.

      • Roob Longstep

        My hurt feelings are spilling out everywhere like period blood, stop MacGuffin, stop

        • MacGuffin

          It will never stop. You will always be disliked, from all sides.

          • Annette

            I don’t dislike him/her. They seem like a nice, thoughtful person.

            I dislike you. You seem like a nasty, shallow one.

          • MacGuffin

            Are you a free bleeder, Annette? Are you free bleeding right now? We should be told!

          • MacGuffin

            Are you a free bleeder, Annette? Are you free bleeding right now?

  • Margot

    Lump ostentatious breastfeeders in as well. If they’re not in full view of everyone they’ll move to where they are. Any chance of a petition to not have mammaries shoved in your face at every turn.

    • Sten vs Bren

      I shall organise the counter petition.

    • Angela Wood

      I’ll sign it. After all, it’s still an offence for a man to whip out his defining characteristic and flash it in public, so let’s have a bit of equality here!

      • Annette

        Nobody is shoving breasts in anyone’s face. Except the men of the Spectator and its ilk.

        Breasts are secondary sexu*l characteristics.

        Like men’s Adam’s apples. Like their beards. Like their underarm hair. Not like their penis*s. I don’t notice those getting hidden under a blanket.

        It’s a shame you put your illiberal prudishness before the health and wellbeing of mothers and babies and feel the need to shove this in my face.

  • jim

    Brilliant! This is the way to combat the femininazis. We don’t need all that embarrassing betamale squeaking about men’s rights.This is the way to go. Luv it!. We should be able to apply the same technique to the entire leftist agenda. These people are easy to fool.

    • JamesCovey123

      ” We don’t need all that embarrassing betamale squeaking about men’s rights.”

      You won’t say that if you find yourself homeless, unable to access your children and falsely accused, will you?

      • Annette

        Here’s an idea: get married

        Then do half the childcare BEFORE you get divorced.

    • ArtieHarris

      A betamale?

      Are you surreptitiously trying to tell us that you are an alphamale?

      • jim

        Self praise is no praise but I would be keen to establish daylight between myself and the attitudes expressed by the author of this article .

    • Annette

      Apparently so are you. Free bleeding as a concept predates 4-chan by 20 years.

      • jim

        I’m guessing you don’t have a boyfriend..You sound like a messy date..OK boys..She’s available…understandable considering her stance on “free bleeding”…

  • Tamerlane

    Great. Free Sh*tt*ng next. No more oppressing me with your bog roll and demand I keep my a-hole clean simply to conform to your bourgeoisie cultural dictatorship. Let it flow.

    • Lawrence13

      This attitude could wipe out our fragile civilisation.

    • Erin Wallace

      What a comparison! Menstrual blood is the reason you exist, idiot. It made you. Perhaps shit made you too. I would believe that you were born from your mother’s asshole.

      • Mr B J Mann

        No it didn’t, semen did.

        So should we have “Free Ejaculating” during marathons (the running kind, not the s-xual ones!)?!

      • Tamerlane

        Grow up.

  • DennisMcScumbag

    Women should never be on the front line.

    Disgusting !!!

  • Solage 1386

    I hope this unclean woman didn’t leave a trail as she ran……

  • MacGuffin

    This piece is problematic. Take it down.

  • Rick Roll

    “Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals (or should that be SJWs?) believe them.”

    ― George Orwell

    • Sten vs Bren

      George Orwell was something of a ‘social justice warrior’. He had a gun and everything.

      • freddiethegreat

        But he wrote Animal Farm. That makes up for it

        • Sten vs Bren

          No, he was great with the gun. He shot many ardent right wingers.

          The remaining ones may read and enjoy Animal Farm.

          • freddiethegreat

            I read that when he was in the Home Guard he was touted as an “expert machine gunner” due to his time in Spain, but his colleagues felt he was more dangerous to themselves.

  • gerronwithit

    So did this Harvard MBA feminist also urinate and defecate in her already soiled pants to reinforce not only her credentials but also her utter stupidity? Her infantile behaviour would suggest that she should go back to wearing nappies.

    • Erin Wallace

      You do realize that menstrual blood made you, right? It’s not the same as piss and shit (except in your case I would believe that it was).

      • gerronwithit

        What has that got to do with behaving like an untrained, incontinent child? You are clearly as deranged as your heroine.

        • Erin Wallace

          You seem to think women choose to bleed for days on end. The fact that you keep comparing the substance that nurtured and developed you for nine months to piss and shit goes to show how deranged and in denial you are.

          • Erin Wallace

            I might add that it’s overwhelmingly men behave like “incontinent children”, pissing all over public spaces and property! I see and, even worse, smell it every damn day. Look how fucking unsanitary and revolting and anti-social you are! Until you guys stop pissing wherever you please you have no right to judge.

          • gerronwithit

            Firstly, where did I say you choose to menstruate? Secondly, what have you got against hygiene? I can only assume you go out every day like some form of skank with unwashed everything including your clothing, looking and smelling as may please yourself but none too pleasant for the rest of us.

      • Mr B J Mann

        Errrmmmmmm, how did mensttrual blood make anybody!?!?!?!?

        Surely you mean semen?!

        So should all men walk about “Free Ejaculating” in pubi, sorry, public?!?!?!?

        • Annette

          Typical of men to think their tiny contribution to reproduction is what counts.

          • Mr B J Mann

            So you’re a Male Chauvinist Pig who’s trying to give the impression that women are so unscientific they think that baybees come from a pinprick of sperm fertilising a gallon of menstrual blood!!!!

        • Erin Wallace

          Thanks for demonstrating your ignorance of basic biology. The menstrual lining is what nurtures the fertilized egg and the placenta grows out of it supporting the developing baby for nine months. Your filthy dick hole does no such thing for humanity.

          • Mr B J Mann

            So it’s not sperm, eggs, or even the placenta that makes the baybee?
            But the menstrual lining!
            Thanks for the biology 101!!!

          • Erin Wallace

            Exactly where do you think the placenta comes from? Do you think women walk around with multiple placentas inside in case of pregnancy? It develops out of the menstrual lining! You really are ignorant. It’s high time you stopped embarrassing yourself.

        • Erin Wallace

          FYI men already go around spraying their disgusting bodily fluids everywhere. It’s called piss and it stinks up all sorts of places that are for the public, including elevators used by the handicapped and families with children. It’s a hell of a lot more invasive and unsanitary that a tiny blood stain on a woman’s running tights.

          • MacGuffin

            You obviously haven’t seen a Saturday night in one of our northern towns, where the females are hoisting their skirts, squatting in the streets, and unleashing torrents of alcopop-infused piss all over the pavements.

  • JewishKuffar

    ‘free-pooing’ chaps? Could we make that a thing?

  • Ngaire Wadman

    From a purely practical point of view, I’m wincing at the thought of the chafing.

  • Ivan Ewan

    The fact that blood doesn’t wash out easily proves that clothes were designed by men, for the benefit of men.

    Womyn of the world, remove these evil patriarchal clothes, invented only to restrict and enslave you! Go out into the street, pink, wobbly and freeeee!!!11

  • Icebow

    Dracula will always need his teabags.

  • MistyWeaveFishLosh

    She’s a bit thick guvnor…

  • King Zog

    Free shitting. Let’s all just shit in the street.

  • balance_and_reason

    The important thing to remember that once fully parroting the knowledge down loaded from various pressure groups at university the damp eyed young thing is probably 80% as knowledgeable as she/he will ever be…sadly however only about 5% wise…the deficit will require a few decades to make up.

    • Annette

      What knowledge are you fully parroting?

  • johnhenry

    What’s that old Guardian mantra – If it bleeds, it leads?

    • Lawrence13

      The clot thickens

  • Lawrence13

    I heard one feminist years ago, describe the male dominated Tampax industry as a group of ‘blood sucking &unts’!!!!

    • Grumpy

      I remember an article about J&J launching a range of tampons designed to knock Tampax out of the “winner’s box”.

  • Kiran Gandhi’s erudite allusion to Prof. Gayatri Spivak’s seminal essay ‘Can the Subaltern Speak?’- which tells the story of Spivak’s Freedom Fighter aunty who hanged herself while on the rag so as to prove she wasn’t preggers- is retroactively made the subject of a Zizekian detournement by reason of Sarah Silverman’s claim that her own all too visible ‘free running’ was the result of anal intercourse rather than Feminist Commitment.

    • Callipygian

      We’ve had the blood already; do we have to have the seminal, too?

  • Callipygian
  • Skyeward

    Yet another reason to send your kids to a public ivy. What a freak.

  • No Man’s Land

    Ah 4chan, if you can look past the kiddie prn they do good work.

  • Jess Rose

    An embarrassing use of phrase, then, but it could be argued that she was ‘reclaiming’, or simply ‘claiming’, it. I do not think it’s right to consider periods ‘disgusting’, ‘gross’, this is all rather too similar to the language used in the Quran, which describes periods as so unclean that women must be ‘purified from them’, before it is right to see or speak to them! (Qur’an 2:222) Periods are a natural fact of everyday life, and we are lucky in that they are accepted as such by the huge corporations we love to hate, who have in fact ensured it is possible for women and girls to go about their periods without trouble. What ought to be given more media attention is the lack of available/affordable sanitary products for women in developing countries, and the consequential monthly days off from school so many girls lose. To reject the sanitary items we are so privileged to have access to is somewhat insulting, as is the call for sanitary items to be made free or tax-free in the UK. You can pick up 28 for £2.00 at Tesco.

  • FedUpIndian

    She gives a new meaning to the phrase “period piece”.

  • The Great Satan™

    Why didn’t she also smear feces on her face? Poor mentally ill feminist.

    • Annette

      Because menstruation isn’t like sh*tting?

  • Take a group of people (college students) and feed then an intellectual asinine pile of crap and a bunch will believe it.

    Why anyone would pay money for the privilege or being taught an intellectual asinine pile of crap, is beyond me.

    I hope her college loan keeps her destitute for years.

    • Mary Ann

      Wisdom comes with age.

      • Sorry Mary Ann.

        I’m and old guy. I have watched the young and stupid become the old and really stupid.

        Training college students to have an asinine chip on their shoulders about some contrived victimhood, is toxic and stunts development.

  • Allan

    Maybe there will be more of them. Then men won’t go near them with a 20 foot pole, and they will slowly become extinct.

    • Annette

      The feeling is mutual love. You forget, we have IVF. You don’t.

  • BillyHW
  • Mary Ann

    I would think that wet knickers would chafe as much as a pad.

  • cartimandua

    Jess Rose made a sensible comment. Right from the beginning of patriarchal religion women have been told they are unclean for having fertile bodies.
    Eds misogyny shines out again.
    Even in the West women have to do everything men do but backwards and in high heels.
    Outside the West women are not permitted out of their homes because there are no sanitary towels.
    They wouldn’t be allowed tampons because of…. hymens.
    Men like Ed don’t like women.
    We get that.

    • John Hawkins Totnes

      What’s all that supposed to mean?

    • Mr B J Mann

      Shouldn’t that be hypersons and woperson?!?!!?

      • Annette

        Shouldn’t you shut up?

        • Mr B J Mann

          Shouldn’t you?
          You seem to be Male Chauvinist Pig trying to give the impression that women are censorious and intolerant as well as ignorant and illiterate.

      • Mr B J Mann

        Sorry that should have been hypernongenderspecificoffspring and wos-xuallyunbiasedprogeny!

  • freddiethegreat

    Harvard MBA. Harvard was perhaps worthwhile 100 odd years ago, but the aeroplane (vintage too) is more useful. All a Harvard degree means is you had access to loads of money, and wasted years listening to useless fashionable lefties.

  • Blazeaway

    I think we should all go round to Ms Gandhi’s house for a spot of free-shi##ing

    • Annette

      How insulting to liken periods to sh*tting.

  • cartimandua

    period blood is not the same as faeces by the way gents.
    Perhaps you should stick a tampon up your backsides and walk around with it all day.
    Just to check out the comfort level.
    Mind you when you have prostate trouble you will be in nappies.

    • JSC

      A tampon up the buttocks and all dressed up in nappies you say? Excellent, are we going to Church? Shall I put on my best hat too?

      • Water_the_tree

        I read this two days late and it still cracks me up. Thanks.

    • Mr B J Mann

      Is it different from ordinary male wound blood too?

      Or would you be happy if the bloke next to you on the bus hadn’t bothered with a plaster when he’d cut himself earlier and was bleeding all over you?!?!?

      • Annette

        I wouldn’t be bothered if he stuck a bit of tissue to his shaved chin. Or if he had a graze on his face. Or if he had bandaged his would and he hadn’t managed to hide the fact that he’d been bleeding.

        • Mr B J Mann

          You’re a Male Chauvinist Pig trying to give the impression women can’t even read, aren’t you!

    • Zarniwoop

      I knew a gay guy who stuffed tampons up his backside after a rough night with his bf 😛

  • J belmont

    The only thing that matters is that feminists thought these were all good ideas. That 4chan came up with them as pranks has no bearing on that fact, they still genuinely believed these were all good ideas.

  • Lina R

    Only those at elite universities with the world at their feet and no worries of life in the real world could expend their time and energy on this new form of militant feminism. If they had a job, money worries and not their parents cushioning them, they might gain more perspective on the world and what are real struggles and what are first-world, indulgent ones.

    • Annette

      Right because menstrual taboo has literally no effect on the girls and women of the developing world.

  • teepee

    Kiran Gandhi … former drummer of the agit-rock collective MIA
    Oh, that Kiran Gandhi.

    • CarltonOnTapPlease

      Very droll.

  • 1958Paul

    I thought it was a clever/shocking demonstration of the way women’s bodies processes are kept “secret” from the patriarchal society we live in. For other examples see breastfeeding and PMS.

  • Maureen Fisher

    So the South Park description of feminists as “a bunch of fat old sk–ks on their period” is an apt description then.

    • cartimandua

      Your boss eh?

    • Annette

      I think they were probably being ironic.

    • JS

      So no mention of strange dyed hair in their otherwise faultless description?

  • JamesCovey123

    Men are responsible for all women’s woes, Mr Delingpole.

    Without men, women would be living happily in grass huts.

    You must always remember that.

    • Annette

      Not all, just 90%

  • cartimandua

    Men think contraception is easy. They don’t do any of it but they still think it is easy and fool proof.

  • Annette

    God 4chan is sociopathic. Entirely inevitably, completely white and male.

    Shocking what 1600 years of Christian misogyny and neuro atypicality can do to people.

  • Annette

    “alleged male practice of ‘period-shaming’.”

    An allegation, Spectator commenters are happy to provide evidence for.

  • Annette

    “Can she really not work out the logic of why it is that over the years we’ve developed certain conventions about the public display of bodily fluids and functions”

    Say the male marathon runners in between peeing by the road and wiping sweat from their free flowing armpits.

  • Ruthmeb

    Oh, look, a man telling women they are wrong and ‘feminism’ (willfully misrepresented once again) is to blame for…well, a whole bunch of things, that’s for sure: dammit, stop that right now, all you wimmin. How novel. How radical. How very much we need your guidance. Thank you for putting us right – and, of course, firmly in our place.

    You know, most of us can work (and have worked) this kind of thing – that ‘free bleeding’ isn’t practical – out for ourselves: sorry to shock you.And the smug righties in the comments patting themselves eagerly on the back for not thinking too much, not questioning too much, because oh dear, where would that lead? Communism! I weep for you all.

    • Annette

      They literally can’t help themselves. It comes from years of being told they’re in charge.

  • Erin Wallace

    This article is utter nonsense. The concept of free bleeding did not originate on 4Chan. Nice attempt to justify your laughable conservative hand-wringing.

    • Charlie

      http://www.dailydot.com/lol/free-bleeding-is-a-4chan-hoax/

      http://www.xojane.com/issues/i-tried-4chans-free-bleeding-hoax-in-real-life

      Quote: “Most people will easily recognize the familiar reek of bullshit hanging over the free bleeding hashtag” … apart from you, apparently.

      • Erin Wallace

        What is your point? I was aware of what free bleeding was before I had a computer. Do you remember when people read books? There’s a popular feminist book from the 90s called CUNT that espouses the virtues of free bleeding. It’s not a joke or a hoax. It’s about women owning their bodies. If you can’t deal with that too bad.

        • Éowyn

          Part of owning your body is keeping control of it though.
          Tampons aren’t for everyone but a pad is common sense.

          I mean, who wants to walk around with bodily fluids dripping down you for an extended period of time?

          If nothing else it would feel uncomfortable.

          • Erin Wallace

            Right, “common sense.” Is it common sense to aggravate your cramps and risk toxic shock syndrome because society demands you stuff yourself with chemical laden garbage? Is it common sense to fill the garbage dumps with plastic sanitary pads and all their packaging? Is it common sense to go to great lengths to hide and suppress your biological functions to the degree that women do? To live in fear of shame and ridicule once a month for at least 30 years? How is it so hard for you people to understand that this woman was raising important questions? The fact that she’s frightened a bunch of pearl clutching conservatives only validates her action more.

          • Éowyn

            Sorry but pads make not a blind bit of difference to period cramps and have no connection to toxic shock syndrome at all.

            In fact it’s very disingenuous of you to say so.

          • cartimandua

            They give you thrush and UTIs though not to mention chafing.

          • Éowyn

            How do pads give you thrush and UTIs? I’ve never heard that before?

          • Annette

            And cost money

          • Erin Wallace

            Most pads, even when they aren’t scented with chemicals emit toxins: http://www.womensvoices.org/2014/10/13/testing-reveals-toxic-chemicals-in-procter-gambles-always-pads/

          • Éowyn

            But even plastic is now known pass into food products for us to consume.
            And what of organic pads for the more discerning customer?

          • Callipygian

            Never heard of a menstrual cup, Erin? Look it up why don’t you?

          • Erin Wallace

            I think you’re missing the point and also, duh, I’ve heard of the menstrual cup. Can’t use them because like 1 in 3 women I have the fabulously titled uterus to make my life interesting. Since I was 12 I’ve had periods that are so horrendously painful that I spend 1-2 days pacing the house in agony and throwing up into a bucket. Yes, pain can be so severe as to cause vomiting. This is debilitating and exhausting but I carry on and keep quite about it. Is it unusual? No. I know so many women with repro health issues. I guess we shouldn’t talk about periods though because that might disturb the precious gentlemen here, causing them to faint or spit out their fine merlot in disgust! We wouldn’t want them to have a stroke at the thought of a tiny blood stain on a woman’s running tights. Women are filthy after all. Everyone says so. I’m sure my pain is just God’s way of punishing me for my innately sinful condition.

          • Callipygian

            On the whole, it’s unfortunate that women have to go through this monthly nuisance, and as you point out, it’s much more than a nuisance for a lot of women, sometimes more than once a month, for years and years — their prime of life. It does seem unfair. But someone had to be the ‘it’ person for baby-making, and it had to be us. A cleverer god would have cut down the menses by half at least — every two months would be nicer, for a start, and from what I gather just as effective — but that’s not the ‘god’ we got.

          • Mr B J Mann

            Is it common sense to fill the sewage systems with sewage? Is it common sense to go to great lengths to hide and suppress your biological functions to the degree that men and women do? To live in fear of shame and ridicule once a day for at least three score years and ten?

            Let our pee flow free!

            Let’s all start free sh!tting!!!

          • Annette

            Because menstruation (and breast milk) are exactly like peeing and s&@ting.

          • Mr B J Mann

            You’re Male Chauvinist Pig trying to give the impression women can’t think, aren’t you!

          • MacGuffin

            Annette, you seem so very very angry and bitter. Perhaps you are troubled by a failure to clean behind the fridge properly?

          • Erin Wallace

            Men already do that. Our public spaces and property reek of piss thanks to men. Men should be forced to wear depends. They clearly can’t keep their bodily fluids to themselves.

          • MacGuffin

            Erin, you are becoming hysterical. Perhaps a good clean behind the fridge would help to calm you down.

          • Annette

            Believe it or not, so would a wet pad.

    • DaveAtherton20

      It does predate 4chan but it was them who put it into the mainstream.

      http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/free-bleeding

      • Erin Wallace

        Free bleeding has yet to “hit the mainstream.” This idea that women who practice free bleeding (in whatever form) where somehow duped into to ridiculing themselves is beyond insulting. Also, have any of you even seen the pictures of Kiran after the marathon? There is a tiny circle of visible blood between her legs. Hardly the horror show most of you are describing. Look at all this irrational fear and hatred of the organ that made you and brought you into the world!

        • cartimandua

          Especially since world class runners have been known to cr** in their pants in order to finish a race.

        • ArtieHarris

          ” This idea that women who practice free bleeding (in whatever form) were
          somehow duped into ridiculing themselves is beyond insulting.”

          But true.

          • Erin Wallace

            ….said the illiterate man. My intuition tells me that Artie’s a creepy uncle type.

      • Mr B J Mann

        From the know your meme discussion:

        “free pooping next? why use toilet paper made by men owned companies?”

  • AliceS

    Sometimes I prefer the stuff that comes out of ladies’ front bottoms to what flows from Delingpole’s pen.

    • jamesdelingpole

      Only sometimes? You flatter me, madam.

      • AliceS

        As carefully worded as can be done at a delicate time of the month, sir.

  • Ali Radicali

    It just goes to show how crazy the cult of radical feminism is that OUTSIDERS can trick them into worshiping naked emperors.
    Had no-one mentioned the origin of the fad they’d probably still be gushing the praises of this “courageous wymyn”…

    • Erin Wallace

      Except that we’ve established here that it’s NOT the origin of the practice. 4chan didn’t make up a concept that is well established in feminist circles and literature. If they publicized it, great. For once they did something good for women. Have you figured out that you’re the one who’s been duped yet?

      • Ali Radicali

        BY ALL MEANS PROVIDE EVIDENCE.
        40 years of free bleeding? Well Established in feminist circles?
        Citation needed.

  • DellerboyNZ

    Can I re-designate my penis exposure as ‘open carry’ or do I need a holster for that?

    • Annette

      Plenty of men do. They’re constantly getting it out for one thing or another.

      Likewise their a*ses.

  • Jacobi

    Can’t say I have ever heard of Ms Gandhi. But if she runs a marathon during her
    post-ovulation bleeding which she shouldn’t for health reasons, and visibly bleeds, that must be most disgusting for say 99.9% of people, both female and male.

    I’m not at all athletic, exercise is not good for you after all and is a waste of time and energy, but I understand that pushed to extremes, both male and female athletes begin to “water” other body fluids and what-not, both back and front, which is why many athletes, not just post-ovulating ones, wear nappies.

    I would strongly Ms Ghandi, whoever she is, to note that!

    • Annette

      Why does menstrual blood on somebody else’s clothing disgust you?

      Are you disgusted by the site of a patient with a non-pristine bandage? Does the blood of childbirth? They’re in practically every medical drama so presumably they don’t disgust most people.

      It doesn’t disgust me in the slightest. But then I’m not a precious snowflake.

      • Jacobi

        Oh that’s an easy one – because its disgusting, as is urine and browny watery what not running down the legs of competitors in public events.
        Ask me another!

        ps don’t watch medical dramas. Got better things to do with my time.

        • Erin Wallace

          Men, athletic or not, should wear nappies all the time because CLEARLY toilet training doesn’t work on them. Public spaces are constantly being fouled by incontinent men’s urine. Places like elevators for the handicapped and elderly and mothers with strollers are treated like toilets by men. You are clearly disgusting and anti-social as a whole.

          • Tamerlane

            Are you about 12yrs old? Incapable of rational debate, abusive and unpleasant to anyone with whom you disagree because your brain is yet to form sufficiently mature synapses with which to reason intellectually. Maybe a teenager or a very immature student in a grown up body? Hold on to these posts and re-read them in about ten years time – you’ll cringe with embarrassment I promise.

          • Erin Wallace

            Funny how I respond with facts and you respond with personal attacks but I’m the one who is “Incapable of rational debate, abusive and unpleasant .” Hilariously hypocritical!

          • Tamerlane

            QED. Sad, you had an opportunity to demonstrate maturity there. Good luck to you Erin.

          • Erin Wallace

            WTF? Was that a retort? Pathetic. You’re going to play angry daddy? That’s very sad for you. You haven’t had a single thing of substance to say. I think if you were my Dad I’d change my number and move to another country. Good luck with your daughter.

          • Tamerlane

            Ich glaube, Sie bereits getan haben.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            What, that ‘e was too nice to you Nick? No doubt.

            As you spout off that your ideology is the only one allowed for adults, in approved totalitarian fashion. Your pseudo-science there…which is outright eugenics…

          • Jacobi

            What funny things you notice. Must have been you upbringing. Can’t say I’ve noticed anything like that although I do remember when we lived in Belgium, some time ago, that the police used to pee freely and only without inhibition into the grass verge.
            There were no women police there then, but I presume the Belgian lady-policemen now squat and pee like the rest!

          • Erin Wallace
          • Jeffrey Vernon

            Ladettes in London can be seen peeing in the street on any night of the week. It’s antisocial and unhygienic, but it’s not a purely male problem. The repellant paint in that Daily Mail link is a waste of time – unless they coat every wall and pavement with it.

          • Erin Wallace

            They’re coating the walls because it’s quite obviously an overwhelmingly male problem.

          • ArtieHarris

            Oh dear. Want a tantrumy thing you are.

            But you are quite right about this urinating in public spaces.

            It is positively foul.

  • Raymond Martin

    This proves one thing, that some women are so desperate to fight a non-existent patriarchy they will believe anything. Stupid retarded feminists.

    • Annette

      Stupid retarded anti-feminist

      • Brian Hu

        So said the brainwashed feminist.

    • cartimandua

      the other day on the sex in class program the teacher told the boys who wanted hairless pubes on girls to shave themselves for a time to see what it is like.
      the sore rash and itch got the message across.
      men often don’t even bother to bath.

      • ArtieHarris

        It’s men’s fault that women shave?

        LOL!

        I remember Jeremy Paxman, not long ago on Newsnight, brought in two women to discuss this very issue.

        Guess what?

        The women told him in no uncertain terms that he was mad to think that women did this for men. They did it for themsevles.

  • Annette

    “Can she really not work out the logic of why it is that over the years we’ve developed certain conventions about the public display of bodily fluids and functions”

    Yes I expect she can. What with it not being a difficult thought to have.

    The question is, can you not work out the logic of why it is men can bleed, hoc, sweat, spit and pee with relative impunity in public and certainly with no social stigma, while women cannot?

    Why it is that men may fart, grow hair on their bodies, loudly blow their noses and inspect it, pick their ears and noses, cut their nails, drink alcohol, eat on the tube, sit with their legs akimbo, bend over, scratch their genit*ls, lie down on public benches, shout, swear, ride their bikes on pavements, walk in unerringly straight lines, go topless, show their secondary s*xual characteristics, have s*x, send d*ck pics to potential dates, visit s*x clubs, use prostitut*s, go out after dark, talk and talk and talk in the meetings, in the press, in the media, in the legislature and generally take up their space in the world, plus some of ours, while women are stigmatised to within an inch of their lives for the same?

    And why it is men don’t think it matters?

    • ArtieHarris

      And your point is what?

  • Steve Moxon

    Spoofing the hilarious femascists is the best way to tackle what is not mere lunacy but nothing less than virulent contempt for and indeed hatred towards men.
    Extreme feminism — femascism would be more apt — is the core of the ‘identity politics’ political-Left now all-pervasive longstanding backlash against the masses for our not buying Left bull. [See The Origin of Identity Politics’ and ‘Political Correctness’. http://stevemoxon.co.uk/identitypoliticsandpc.php%5D
    A neat wind-up in the USA which should cross the pond are the ‘Affirmative Action Bake Sales’, where females and blacks got cookies half-price. The students running this neat pee-taking ruse were branded sexist and racist in a true ‘you couldn’t make it up’ hoisting of the nutters by their own petards.

    • Erin Wallace

      There was no “spoof.” Funny how you conservatives are actually the idiots that will believe whatever they’re told. Free bleeding did not originate with 4chan. Of course no one took the time to investigate feminist discourse of the past 50 years.

      • Steve Moxon

        *I’m not referring to ‘free bleeding’ [sic]
        * If ‘FB’ wasn’t a spoof, then even more fool feminists for initiating it!
        * I’m no ‘conservative’. I’m anti the paleo-conservative psychology and outdated anti-science nonsense that underpins feminism, and also anti the elitist-separatism that is the Left masquerading as egaltarianism.

        • Erin Wallace

          I hear you, you’re a raving libertarian conservative. FYI women don’t care what you think of their actions toward self liberation. Also, Feminism has nothing to do with egalitarianism.

          • Steve Moxon

            You hear nothing but your own ideological self-delusional vacuity.
            I’m neither libertarian nor conservative.
            And feminism is the opposite of ‘self-liberation’: it’s a radical failure to understand women, men, or anything of how people and society tick. And yes, it’s certainly nothing to do with egalitarianism: as I said: it’s elitist-separatist totalitarian hate-mongering.

          • Erin Wallace

            If I added mass rapist and mass murder apologist to “elitist-separatist totalitarian hate-mongering” it would describe you to a T: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/11/21/steve-moxon-women-business_n_2170854.html

          • Steve Moxon

            Wha hey! Oh, I eat babies, skewering them in satanic rituals of mass sacrifice, to then put ’em through the mincer to make millions out of passing the meat off as foie gras, so I can live on my yacht, where of course I torture maidens by the hundred and rear their babies for … oh, yes, that’s where I came in.
            I’m all for ‘free bleedin’ y’see!
            Must support the cause.

          • Steve Moxon

            Wow. Even the silliest femascist lunatic would be hard pushed to equate citing the science to explain why women don’t match men’s advancement in the workplace with genocide!!!

          • Bob

            Top quality satire, bravo!

          • MacGuffin

            Erin Wallace, you are a dumbass.

      • MacGuffin

        Hey Erin Wallace, are you ruining someone’s new cream-coloured sofa right now? Are you FREE-BLEEDING? Are you a friend of Flo?

  • cartimandua

    I suggest men wear plastic inco pads one week a month to understand the itch and discomfort of wearing sanitary protection.
    They will have to when their prostate kicks off.

  • SrMarie Augustine

    Harvard, a Once Catholic university is now offering course study on anal sex for women and how to enjoy it.

    • Erin Wallace

      A workshop at “sex week” is not a course study. Do you have reading comprehension issues or do you not mind being viewed as a liar?

      • Callipygian

        Why does a university, which of all institutions by definition is meant to serve the life of the mind, have a ‘s-x week’ in the first place?

    • Sten vs Bren

      That’s entirely in line with Catholic teaching.

    • Grace Ironwood

      If I enrolled at an expensive Catholic University, I would be expecting rather more than what’s on offer. Sex Week should be a festival of Life doctrine, featuring vibrant debates on ‘humanae vitae’ 🙂

  • Wendilynn Kerezman

    I love this. What upsets me is that the winner of the marathon. A WOMAN! was totally upstaged on a publicity stunt. Tigist Tufa’s achievement was of no interest to anyone. All that crap about feminists and mysogany is stupid. People wanted sensation and they got it. The real feminine accomplishment was ignored.

    • Erin Wallace

      Wow. Pitting women against women. How novel! Isn’t this exactly what men want us to do to each other? Your comparison is invalid. One is a political statement while the other is an athletic feat. If you’re going to say that athletes are political then let me gently remind you of all the gay and lesbian athletes that participated at Sochi. How about the non-Germans at Hitlers big bash in Berlin, 1936? Athletes are athletes. They might as well be race horses or robots. They’re just bodies. How does a woman winning a race advance the welfare of other women? It DOESN’T.

      • Wendilynn Kerezman

        The only problem with your argument is that her “political statement’ was stupid. Latched onto by a bored media who saw bloody leggings as a quick way to grab views for their websites. I’m sorry, as a woman, I’m VERY thankful for comfortable ways of handling a problem every woman deals with that has NOTHING TO DO with men. Men did not give us our menstrual cycles. And to top it all off, “Free bleeding” was a practical joke started by a bunch of smartasses that bored feminists have grabbed as some rally cry for something that doesn’t mean anything. This isn’t pitting women against each other. Its called recognizing when something is truly of worth. Fighting for the rights of women is not accomplished by bloody leggings. That’s a cheap fast publicity stunt that makes people looking at it go, “what the hell?”. Because nobody is going to look at her bloody leggings and think, “I need to be more involved in stopping the slavery of women in the world because men suck”. Sorry, but that is not the message coming across.

  • Knives_and_Faux

    She’s a Harvard MBA therefore thick.

    • Erin Wallace

      You’re an anti-intellectual and therefore really thick.

      • Knives_and_Faux

        Because a MBA represents intellectualism, right. I see.

  • andyrwebman

    I’ve been hard pressed not to laugh out loud reading this.

    It confirms one thing I’ve thought for a while now – the true cause of these idiots’ sense of oppression is their willingness to follow ridiculous fashionable trends and not think for themselves.

    After all, who buys the magazines with ridiculous body images dispalyed in adverts? Women do. Their men don’t buy them and say “look – you need to look like this or I’m dumping you”

    The feminists fight the magazines, but not the gullibility within themselves which is the true cause of their problems – as this article manifestly demonstrates.

    People need to get a grip and realise that what’s fashionable is NOT what’s imperative.

    • Erin Wallace

      You’re the idiot because you uncritically believed this article. 4chan did not invent “free bleeding.” I’m sorry you’re so uneducated and gullible.

  • Grace Ironwood

    A testament to this decadent period of late Feminism. Hilarious.

    Pun intended.

    • Erin Wallace

      You win all the groans. Hilarious if it were true but it’s 100% ignorant slander.

      • Grace Ironwood

        Surely not.

        Most underwhelming successor generation, taught to be so by my generation.

  • MacGuffin

    I want to know if Brother Number One formerly known as Comrade Jeremy Corbyn is standing with the sistas on free bleeding.

    Well, obviously I don’t mean he should be standing ON free bleeding, because that would just be gross.

  • js27195

    I’m sorry… but that’s just nasty. Pooping is natural but i don’t want someone to not wipe and walk around with poop all over themselves in public either.

    • cartimandua

      period blood is not poop.

      • js27195

        It’s just as gross and unsanitary. I don’t really want people walking around with open bleeding sores either. And yes, period blood smells and yes it can transfer disease and yes it can stain things and yea… it’s a heck of a lot like poop. They’re both a natural substance that is produced by the body that is used to excrete waste from the body (period blood is the culmination of the waste from the uterus and egg and other waste elements in the uterus, poop is the culmination of solid waste from the intestine and colon.) For that matter, i don’t want everyone walking around peeing their pants either (and urine is relatively sterile). We are not animals.

      • Ambientereal

        It is a bodily excretion too. But for me it´s OK if she loves running around splashing her blood, then she will have to face the consequences. Firstly she will ruin many nice clothes, stain all seats where she seats and drive away all persons around her. This last she will probably see as a discriminatory attitude towards her, but I will see it as disrespect on her side.

  • Keith Cameron

    Collectively some of the most stupid people on th3 planet have PhD’s.

  • Flo

    Feminists are born retarded. Only mentally challenged people believe in Feminism.

    • cartimandua

      On the contrary “non feminists” whether male or female have been shown to have lower IQs.

      • Flo

        You must be a retarded Feminist to come with such bullshit. You are not even able to interpret my words. It does not matter +/- some IQ points on the average, it matters that you Feminists are retarded as a whole. Your 75 years old ideology is retarded. The way you act is retarded. Your discourse is retarded. Etc. But you are too retarded to compile basic facts.
        But it really does not matter, it’s not your fault, since you are born retarded.

  • Josephine Geoghegan

    I would look at all of your reactions and wonder if that was not the point entirely…she is an educated lady who is making a point, not falling for some weird social media satire? She probably never heard of it as a ‘movement’ or intended a general move towards women doing so. You can’t really divide the way women are made to feel about their bodies in general from the way women are made to feel about their periods. Yeah, men have practical issues with their body which are disgusting, gas/BO whatever, but in their case there is more of a humor about it despite the disgusting nature of it. Women have to be pretty, they have to protect you from even the knowledge that they could even fart…she is saying ‘I don’t care,’ you are all shocked she doesn’t care? That was the point. So saying the point fell flat is a bit fucking stupid. Maybe ‘feminism’ is a bit formal for something which is literally about breaking the glass ceiling of what it means to be culturally female (i.e., by not being feminine and cute) while also being biologically very much female. Is that what really irks you? That she is both what you interpret to be female but also not performing her identity as a woman effectively? You have all talked me into believing she is a lot more clever than I had previously even considered.

  • Retired Nurse

    .shame they havent invented a tampon that expands lengthways very very quickly..might shut them up …

  • cartimandua

    women end up wearing sweaty plastic panty pads every single day “just in case”. That leads to discomfort and infections.

    If society was more adult about it all women would live more comfortable and healthier lives.

    Or live at all.
    From the BBC

    “Natasha Scott-Falber, 14, from Caerwent, Monmouthshire, died in her sleep in 2013 and thought she had been recovering from a sickness bug.

    Her mother said she had been unaware of the symptoms of toxic shock syndrome, which can affect those wearing tampons.

    AM William Graham is backing the campaign.

    According to advice from NHS Choices, toxic shock syndrome (TSS) can affect men, women and children, and it can be caused by insect bites or burns.

    But for reasons that are still not understood, a significant proportion of cases occur in women who are on their period and using a tampon, and particularly those designed to be “super absorbent”.

    Doctors say the risk of toxic shock syndrome is greater in young people.”
    So DONT make girls so shamed they lose their very lives.

    • Clive

      The moral of which seems to me that being well informed is important

      It is my own belief that being socially correct is not

  • silverdart

    In these times of Aids and other sicknesses spread by body fluids, she’s acting pretty damn irresponsible, not to mention F**king gross!

  • Clare

    I think in her blog she mentioned that she’d got her period unexpectedly and wasn’t sure what to do (I’ve never run a marathon but I’m guessing even modern sanitary products are an encumbrance). So it wasn’t a premeditated act.

    I really don’t think she’s trying to get women to stop using tampons (which I certainly wouldn’t want to do), but she did mention that she hopes it raises awareness of the many women around the world who don’t have access to modern sanitary products at all. Good on her, I say.

    • Ambientereal

      I believe you are wrong in many ways. On one side, to run a marathon she must have trained a lot, at least a couple of years from beginner on. During that time she must have had her period many times and has probably worn a tampon. On another, you “assume” that she was concerned about the sanitary condition of the women in poor areas of the world, but she never expressed that.

      • Clare

        In response to your first point:
        – Maybe she did train with a tampon in, but at the actual event, she would have wanted nothing distracting her, and a tampon – which can leak, or slip out, would have been a distraction.
        And in response to your second point:
        – I refer you to Kiran’s blog post: ‘I ran with blood dripping down my legs for sisters who don’t have access to tampons and sisters who, despite cramping and pain, hide it away and pretend like it doesn’t exist.’

        So that’s only two ways in which I am actually not wrong. 🙂

    • Maureen Fisher

      Perhaps you skipped this bit: ” Poor Kiran, and the liberal outlets which had applauded her gesture,
      were the victims of a cruel hoax. It originated last year on a mildly
      notorious website called 4chan — an internet chatroom favoured by the
      kind of irreverent pranksters and cynical youths who take unseemly
      delight in countering the pieties of the ‘social justice warriors’ of
      the earnest new left.” See? Swallowed it whole didn’t you?

      • Clare

        No, not really. If anything you’ve swallowed James Delingpole’s (unfounded) interpretation of the event.

        As I said in my original comment, and as you’ll see if you refer to Kiran’s blog, she’d had got her period unexpectedly and as using a tampon would be a distraction, just decided to go with the flow, as it were, and hopefully raise some awareness about problems to do with periods (lack of access to sanitary products, people’s inability to discuss menstruation frankly) along the way. So no, she wasn’t the victim of a hoax because it wasn’t premeditated.

  • fojap

    It pre-dated 2014. Here it is from Feministing in 2012. 4chan did try to promote it for their own amusement. The idea is so ridiculous that it’s hard to believe that they didn’t originate it, but they didn’t.

  • Jose MrRandom Furtado

    Came for the comments…was not disappointed.

  • Heather Schulte

    This article was a waste of time. The bold runner made a statement, and is highlighting a major health issue for women in third world countries.

  • Elan Durham

    As a resident of Cambridge, MA I feel qualified to explain Kiran Ghandi’s unfortunate sense of misplaced outrage: She graduated from Harvard, a place that nurses Third World grudges with a practiced eye toward future investments … This one misfired, however, as nothing good comes from a bleeding womb – except babies! 🙁

  • jmo

    What, are we supposed to go around with p*ss and sh*t running out of our pants too? I mean, I guess we shouldn’t have to conform to the oppression of those who impose sanitary conditions on us and make us have to go find a toilet! Same with vomiting — if you gotta yark, just do it right there where you are!

  • Maureen Fisher

    These mewling idiots make me want to throw up. Did anyone read the latest feminazi tripe over at the Graun the other day? http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/20/sexual-harassment-women-curfew Perhaps she should take a large stick with her when she goes out.

  • Caractacus
    • Maureen Fisher

      Eeewwww. Gross!

  • SG

    I am rather appalled at the level of bad journalism here.

    The ‘movement of flowing free’ may well have been a ‘hoax’ in terms of it’s use by 4chan in 2014 but it has been an established tradition in the ‘alternative’ scene such as the “red tent movement’. However, whether or not it was a hoax in it’s use on social media sites in 2014 is rather besides the point, as it has been used as a movement and indigenous authenticity is not an argument for or against whether something is a valid form of demonstration.

    More pertinently he seems unable to read what Gandhi has to say regarding her demonstration beyond the point where she talks about her experience of the run itself, and so misses the point of it completely.

    According to Gandhi the reason she did this was to raise awareness of women in third world countries who do not have access to sanitary products, like tampons, becuase the shame around menstruation is preventing serious discourse about this – an issue with serious consequences.

    In her own words:

    “Consider how women in developing nations are affected by period secrecy and taboo. Our culture tells them to hide their monthly flow, despite the fact that the ways to clean it up are either unsustainable or unaffordable. Even women who are able to use pieces of cloth to absorb blood don’t always have private places at school or at work to change them out. As a result, they choose skipping school or work as a better, less shameful alternative.

    Many Indian girls are not taught about proper menstrual hygiene. According to the online platform Menstrual Hygiene Day, 43-88% of girls in urban India use reusable cloth for their periods but these are often washed without soap or clean water, which can negatively affect reproductive health. Up to 70% of all reproductive diseases in India are caused by poor menstrual hygiene. In rural India, many women and girls use unsanitary materials such as old rags, husks, dried leaves, grass, ash, sand or newspapers because they do not have access to affordable, hygienic and safe products and facilities”

    • pedestrianblogger

      Wow! Which one of the Chuckle Brothers are you?

      • Callipygian

        Que?

  • Robert Lopez

    Will she do it again in the future? Now that’s the question.

  • Mnestheus

    Delingpole is far too modest- most marathon runners are outspoken Greens, and the Free Bleeding fiasco is an obvious blowback from the latest salient in the Climate Wars;

    Delingpole’s own “Green on the outside, Red on the inside” Watermelons campaign.

    http://vvattsupwiththat.blogspot.com/2015/08/will-climate-change-lead-to-vegan.html

  • rachel

    you stupid bitch – nobody wants to bleed in their clothes! Who would want you for a guest. Tampons are liberating- you are not.

  • Bob

    Is it possible she made the story up about doing it on purpose?? Accidents happen.. I worked in groceries for 15 years, from teenage bagger, to management.. I never once saw a cashier or bagger crack a smile when ringing up or bagging sanitary products. I did however see some customers, usually younger, that seemed to be a bit embarrassed.. I have purchased, and seen many boyfriends and husbands purchase them without shame..

  • logdon

    I wouldn’t want to visit the Ikea sofa department after her.

  • Louise

    men have suffered painful bleeding from nipples during marathons because of chaffing. I would think chaffing from tampons and pads could have painful consequences and it’s not like she planned the marathon to coincide with their period (who does that?!). It’s likely that it was a split second decision before the run and not due to any weirdo ‘free bleeding’ trend. It’s just life, get over it.

  • Zzsz

    I don’t pity her. Unlike this article, I don’t see her as a victim in any way or shape. She simply showed the world that, yes, a lot of feminists just are that indoctrinated into their ideology that they will do literally anything if they think it will advance that ideology a step further. Fact is: if 4Chan didn’t come up with it, the feminists probably would have. After all, it sounds EXACTLY the kind of thing they would do, doesn’t it?

  • A Real Libertarian

    Free bleeding dates back to 2004 online:
    http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/free-bleeding

    4chan just convinced SJWs to make it big.

    • tiredofthenewsimeanreallytired

      That’s the gag, fuckface.

  • imsailing

    “stupid has become the new clever”! ROFL…ain’t that the truth!! Goes to show you….slap a feminist label on any bat sh*t crazy thing and they will jump on it and run. Feminism has taught women to be followers of the “cool crowd”; just do whatever they have to to be “in” and throw all critical thinking and common sense out the door.

    • Philippa Knox

      You are completely correct! ‘stupid has become the new clever’ as demonstrated quite adequately in this article. unfortunately for you, not by the ‘Bat sh*t Crazy’ following feminists, but in fact by the writer of the article himself. NOT ONLY has he failed to research his subject fully but he has succeeded in putting down every woman who may have succumb to the foul play of 4chad. with regards to the star of his article, Kiran, he missed the point entirely. Her cry was not for the guidance of men but for women! (not everything abides the concept of the Bechdel Test.) Her commendable win was only exceeded by her bravery, which drew attention to the crisis in third world countries, where women are not provided with proper sanitary items. Kiran, in her act, pointed out the atrocity that many MANY women face, those who lack access to sanitary products. If what she did makes her a follower of the ‘cool crowd’ then I too will ‘throw all critical thinking and common sense out the door’ to join that crowd.

      • Medusa Jordan

        Yes, I think that anything genuinely ‘free bleeding’ is related to the issue for women in poor countries lacking access to pads etc, but being expected at all costs to hide the bleed. UK charging luxury tax for tampons is also BS.

  • Zaparter

    Most kids learn early that they alone are responsible for their actions. “If I tell you to jump out of the window, would you do it?”, is a sentence you hear a lot growing up. The beauty of hoaxes like this one is how it brings out the stupidest in people; it might raise some self awareness at the same time. It’s a different story for fake recipes that lead you on to release chlorine close to your face.

  • George Milan

    She wasn’t ‘free bleeding’ for the sake of it – she wanted to confront people with the reality of periods in a public place to encourage discussion – counter the idea that periods are ‘gross’ and ‘icky’ and just a part of being female and human. In that respect she achieved her aim and will I’m sure be using tampons and other sanitary products in her day to day life.

    • SUCK MY PEACE

      More important than confronting social stigma, It seems appropriate to refuse to use cotton hygiene products when that cotton is soaked in poison. This is a real thing. It is an industry standard to spray the cancer-causing glyphosate herbicide all over cotton fields, and then you are suppose to carry that poison soaked cotton inside you? The vagina is a mucus membrane, (not to get to scientific for all you dummies). Recently the EU banned the use of these herbicides, and when I heard about the “free-bleeding” I assumed the two were linked (but i guess not). Monsanto has pressured the legislature and the EU is poised to repeal their ban. Now imagine if this “free bleeding” thing were to be applied as a form of protest against Monsanto. I want to see that happen. Stranger still I see a commentator below, Zaparter, suggest that only an idiot would jump out a window or release chlorine near their face. It just so happens they bleach tampons with chlorine to make them whiter, which creates chlorinated hydrocarbons, a hazardous group of chemicals with by products that include dioxins, among the most toxic substances known, which are impossible to breakdown and accumulate in you tissues for life. Obviously Zaparter didn’t think of this! But, I’m sure now that Zaparter knows he wouldn’t expect women to keep jumping out the window, right? Stupid people talking about stupid people is always a laugh.

      Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/051669_tampons_glyphosate_GMO_cotton.html#ixzz41Ce4QzgX

      • There are Luna Pads and Diva Cups for the more healthy-minded, Earth-friendly among us. Natural sea sponges are nice too.

        I have never used a tampon in my life, nor would I. I may have been scared away from them because I hit puberty just as TSS (Toxic Shock Syndrome) became a thing. There are actually so many option which don’t include the highly toxic tampon.

        And of course free-bleeding would have it’s merits too, just not in public, or not until after the Y Chromosome Apocalypse that will evidently occur if Hillary Clinton becomes US President and Harriet Tubman (also a woman) replaces a man on the twenty dollar note.

  • 4chan of course also tried coming up with the #killallmen thing, the End Father’s Day thing, and quite a few racist hashtags as well. I believe feminists have put together a #yourslipisshowing thingie on Twitter to highlight some of the more glaringly obvious fake-feminist/fake SJW crap.

    • Shitakei

      Yes, 4chan is responsible for everything bad about modern feminism.

      Keep deflecting blame, it just makes you fall harder in the end.

      How is that Elliott case doing again?

      • The only thing bad about “modern feminism” is the amount of devotion its detractors give to it. And hey, 4chan and Reddit took great joy in each of their scams. They aren’t exactly smart about hiding their tracks either, as the evidence abounds. I haven’t deflected blame, I just gave a shout out to the ones who are accepting the blame.

        As for the Elliott case, I believe the Isla Vista reports claimed that young Mister Rodger shot himself rather than be held responsible for his incel actions. Reddit of course “””deflected the blame””” claiming it was feminists’ fault that the man went out to murder women who wouldn’t give him nookie. Oh, the irony.

        • Maximan

          LOL, he wasn’t talking about THAT Elliot. He was talking about the man who criticized some feminists over Twitter and resulting from that the butthurt feminazis (read:all feminists) had pressed charges against him which lasted for 3 years and resulted in him losing his job and most of his friends. Just yesterday, he was set free of any charges.

          • Ugh, you sock puppet responses…

            I am unfamiliar with any case that you’re describing. However, if by “criticized”, you mean “harassed, stalked, abused, doxxed, etc.,” then I can see charges being pressed (appropriately, since “criticizing” is not only NOT a crime, it would not even be entertained in any courts in the first place).

            And again, I am unfamiliar with the case you’re speaking of, but if it comes down to a man harassing women, yeah, the end result will pretty much predictably be that he’s set free of all charges. That is called “just another day”.

        • Suzanne Ennazus

          Don’t understand why annoying Americans keep being called feminists.
          Feminists are the ones fighting against what’s considered normal to
          abuse women, such as fighting for them to vote and being paid for the
          same job so they’re not slaves.
          Why does everybody go on about women and menstruation, when men produce more se men bodily fluid in their lifetime, but nobody cares about that?

          • re: bodily fluids —

            Have you read Gloria Steinem’s “If Men Could Menstruate”?

            If Men Could Menstruate

            by Gloria Steinem

            A white minority of the world has spent centuries conning us into thinking that a white skin makes
            people superior – even though the only thing it really does is make them more subject to ultraviolet rays and to wrinkles. Male human beings have built whole cultures around the idea that penis envy is “natural” to women – though having such an unprotected organ might be said to make men vulnerable, and the power to give birth makes womb envy at least as logical.

            In short, the characteristics of the powerful, whatever they may be, are thought to be better than the characteristics of the powerless – and logic has nothing to do with it.

            What would happen, for instance, if suddenly, magically, men could menstruate and women could not?

            The answer is clear – menstruation would become an enviable, boast-worthy, masculine event:

            Men would brag about how long and how much.

            Boys would mark the onset of menses, that longed-for proof of manhood, with religious ritual and
            stag parties.

            Congress would fund a National Institute of Dysmenorrhea to help stamp out monthly discomforts.

            Sanitary supplies would be federally funded and free. (Of course, some men would still pay for the
            prestige of commercial brands such as John Wayne Tampons, Muhammad Ali’s Rope-a-dope Pads, Joe Namath Jock Shields – “For Those Light Bachelor Days,” and Robert “Baretta” Blake Maxi-Pads.)

            Military men, right-wing politicians, and religious fundamentalists would cite menstruation (“men-struation”) as proof that only men could serve in the Army (“you have to give blood to take blood”), occupy political office (“can women be aggressive without that steadfast cycle governed by the planet Mars?”), be priest and ministers (“how could a woman give her blood for our sins?”) or rabbis (“without the monthly loss of impurities, women remain unclean”).

            Male radicals, left-wing politicians, mystics, however, would insist that women are equal, just different, and that any woman could enter their ranks if she were willing to self-inflict a major wound every month
            (“you MUST give blood for the revolution”), recognize the preeminence of menstrual issues, or subordinate her selfness to all men in their Cycle of Enlightenment. Street guys would brag (“I’m a three pad man”) or answer praise from a buddy (“Man, you lookin’ good!”) by giving fives and saying, “Yeah, man, I’m on the rag!” TV shows would treat the subject at length. (“Happy Days”: Richie and Potsie try to convince Fonzie that he is still “The Fonz,” though he has missed two periods in a row.) So would newspapers. (SHARK SCARE THREATENS MENSTRUATING MEN. JUDGE CITES MONTHLY STRESS IN PARDONING RAPIST.) And movies. (Newman and Redford in “Blood Brothers”!)

            Men would convince women that intercourse was more pleasurable at “that time of the month.” Lesbians
            would be said to fear blood and therefore life itself – though probably only because they needed a good
            menstruating man.

            Of course, male intellectuals would offer the most moral and logical arguments. How could a woman
            master any discipline that demanded a sense of time, space, mathematics, or measurement, for instance, without that in-built gift for measuring the cycles of the moon and planets – and thus for measuring anything at all? In the rarefied fields of philosophy and religion, could women compensate for missing the rhythm of the universe?

            Or for their lack of symbolic death-and-resurrection every month?

            Liberal males in every field would try to be kind: the fact that “these people” have no gift for
            measuring life or connecting to the universe, the liberals would explain, should be punishment enough.

            And how would women be trained to react?
            One can imagine traditional women agreeing to all arguments with a staunch and smiling masochism. (“The ERA would force housewives to wound themselves every month”: Phyllis Schlafly. “Your husband’s blood is as sacred as that of Jesus – and so sexy, too!”: Marabel Morgan.) Reformers and Queen Bees would try to imitate men, and pretend to have a monthly cycle. All feminists would explain endlessly that men, too, needed to be liberated from the false idea of Martian aggressiveness, just as women needed to escape the bonds of menses envy. Radical feminist would add that the oppression of the nonmenstrual was the pattern for all other oppressions (“Vampires were our first freedom fighters!”) Cultural feminists would develop a bloodless imagery in art and literature.
            Socialist feminists would insist that only under capitalism would men be able to monopolize menstrual blood
            . . . .

            In fact, if men could menstruate, the power
            justifications could probably go on forever.

            If we let them.

          • Donald Drumpf

            Do you speak German? Because if you don’t you should show a lot more respect toward Americans if I were you. You should be glad you still have a country.

          • I’m American, and I speak German as well as a handful of other languages.

            Respect ought to have nothing to do with it.

            And I’ll ‘be glad I still have a country’ if Donald Drumpf’s name is forgotten by the second week of November.

        • Suzanne Ennazus

          Annoying idiots are just annoying idiots, usually Americans. Feminists are people who fight against what’s considered normal to abuse women, and from seeing every comment section online full of men being abusive about women, I can see why feminism is needed.

    • MaximusX67

      Love 4Chan ….. such easy targets! Feminists, like the rest of the hard left, are immature, misguided, and undeniably gullible. Same for the hard right. It is so easy to work either of them up. I love that some really really (REALLY) stupid feminists looked at this ‘free bleeding’ thing and thought to themselves “yeah – how DARE the MAN oppress me by making me tampon rape myself every month!!?? I will bleed everywhere, ruin as much of my wardrobe as possible, disgust everyone I come anywhere near, leak my period blood all over public places, not to mention my own home, and I will sure show all them won’t I??!!!!”

      Any woman who decides it will be OK for them to bleed wherever they choose to publically are nothing more than disgusting pigs with zero civility and severe mental problems.

      • …Except of course it was still… never… the feminists who fell for any of the very obviously fake 4chan hoaxes in the first place. It was the anti-feminists who fell for the 4chan nonsense, because the anti-feminists are somehow stupid enough to somehow have 46 chromosomes, yet believe that others with 46 chromosomes would ever, ever, ever do anything that 4channers have fabricated.

        Reminder: it has consistently been feminists who had to inform [the idiots of] the world that free bleeding was never a thing, that peeing for solidarity was never a thing, that end father’s day was never a [feminist] thing, that kill all men was ever a [feminist] thing, and so on.

        4channers are about as transparent as non-Spanish speakers creating sentences along the lines of “El doggo eated el catto en mi houso”. Hysterical (and very stupid) non-Spanish speakers will read that and believe that a dog ate a cat in some fool’s house; meanwhile, the bilingual (educated) people will instantly recognize the hoax for what it was — a foolish, obvious hoax intended ONLY to fool idiots. This is how and why feminists see right through 4channers’ puerile attempts every time, whilst bigots and anti-feminists believe the 4channers’ masquerades to be 100% valid and real.

        {EDITED TO ADD:} Also, feminists are not seen as “left” or “hard left”. They are seen as something called “TradCons”, or Traditional Conservatives. Do keep up.

        • MaximusX67

          Sooooo …. the feminist articles abound out there about this whole disgusting Free Bleeding thing, and their experiences with it, photos, editorials et al., are all just a big joke on everyone else then? Like, they made themselves look like complete idiots, and actually went ahead and wrote articles on the topic, and did interviews about the topic, and marched it forward …….. all as a goof?

          Ahhhhhh, Ok – gotcha! Good one……. sure showed everyone else!

          • Ahem. No, your imagination is just that… your imagination.

            “Tampon rape”, eternal eye roll at your delusions. I’d ask you what it’s like to live in your own little world, but then you’d probably try to tell me, so forget it.

          • MaximusX67

            Right …. sure thing. Good talk.

            Living in your own little world must be fascinating.

  • Suzanne Ennazus

    Don’t understand why annoying Americans keep being called feminists. Feminists are the ones fighting against what’s considered normal to abuse women, such as fighting for them to vote and being paid for the same job so they’re not slaves.
    Why does everybody go on about women and me nstruation, when men produce more se men bodily fluid in their lifetime, but nobody cares about that? When I see online comment sections full of men whinging about their hatred of women, I can see why feminism is needed.

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