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Craig Kelly to Andrew Hastie, ‘Don’t become Leader of the Liberal Party!’

19 October 2025

8:28 PM

19 October 2025

8:28 PM

‘If I was advising Andrew Hastie, I’d say, when the decision comes down and [the Liberals] bed-wet on Net Zero, and they bed-wet on every other policy … I’d say, Andrew, don’t become the Leader of the Liberal Party.’

This was the advice given by Libertarian Craig Kelly, speaking to Chris Coveries at the Sydney march today.

He added:

‘The Liberal Party ship is rotten. The sails are threadbare. The timbers are eaten by wood borers. And half the crew will run the ship onto the rocks and stab the captain at the first opportunity. Is that the ship you want to really take over?

‘There’s no point in doing it.

‘You are far better separate – go be an independent – get several like-minded members, then go and start your own party and call for all the other minor parties to come and amalgamate under one roof.

‘Do what Menzies did in the 40s when he had that conference in Albury and united all the minor parties together. And that led to the greatest period of Australian prosperity that we have ever seen.’

Craig Kelly was one of the truest of the blue ribbon conservatives in the Liberal Party, representing the seat of Hughes. Despite his Libertarian branding, he has retained his conservative instincts.

Elected in 2010, Craig Kelly walked away from the Liberals in 2021 and transitioned through the bulk of the minor right, starting as an independent before moving to the United Australia Party, One Nation, and finally the Libertarians.

He is no longer an elected politician, but his legacy holds sway among conservative voters who saw his departure as the body of a canary, murdered by the unsafe environment in the depths of the Liberal party room.

Andrew Hastie is the heir presumptive of the Liberal Party if the Moderate faction happens to be vanquished in a leadership spill.

A scenario that remains unlikely.

He is joined on the backbench by the rising stars of Jacinta Nampijinpa Price, Alex Antic, and Matt Canavan. Hastie’s Lower House seat paints him as the central leadership threat to Sussan Ley.


Sussan Ley is finding out the hard way that every time she banishes a disloyal personality, she turns the blunt conservative pencil against the blade of a sharpener.

‘Craig, you used to be part of the Liberal Party a long time ago, can you imagine trying to make a space in the Liberal Party today?’ Chris Coveries asked on his livestream. ‘I know you’ll say “I can’t” but how would you? You’re in the party room. Sussan Ley has been elected, she’s not part of your faction, what would you say to her?’

Craig found this question amusing.

‘I spoke to another ex-Coalition member yesterday who was in the party when I was there and he said to me, “When we were there, did you ever think Sussan Ley could be leader?” And he broke out laughing.

‘Look, it’s … they’ve simply got to get back – and I know it’s past what can be saved. I don’t think it can be saved. I think what has to happen, I think a split has to occur. There are too many – I call them ‘bed wetters’ – in the Liberal Party.

‘We saw it during Covid how bad they were, how they are frightened to speak up against any kind of narrative pushed by the ABC and the media. The place is full of bed wetters.

‘We have seen the success Farage has had in the UK. Farage and his Reform Party in the UK is now leading the polls.

‘And what is their policy on Net Zero? They want to scrap it. What is their policy on immigration? They want to reduce it greatly.

‘If the Coalition – if there’s a few members of the Coalition – that have enough backbone to say, “Okay, I cannot sit in this party room if you are going to continue in this party to support the policies of Net Zero which damages our country and puts our country at a competitive disadvantage.”’

He then went on to explain that while the Liberal Party consider themselves to be the superior conservative party because they hold government, the right wing has spread well beyond traditional party lines.

‘And remember at the moment, the Liberal Party are actually – if you look at the conservative side of politics – the Liberal Party are actually the minority side.

‘The Liberals and Nationals are polling 28-29 per cent … 7 per cent of that is Nationals. The Liberal vote by itself, with both the left and right factions is around 21-22 per cent.

‘We know One Nation is at least 10 per cent. The Nationals are 7 per cent. There’s 17 per cent. You’ve got a couple more from the Libertarians. A couple more from Gerard Rennick’s mob. Katter, Family First, throw them all into the mix and that conservative side of politics is actually greater today than the Liberal side without the Liberals splitting.’

Kelly’s advice is interesting, although almost certainly unworkable for Andrew Hastie.

The advancement of minor parties has been made difficult thanks to Labor and the Coalition bringing in preferential voting which locked in the red-blue dynamic.

An Australian Farage is possible, but an Australian Reform Party would require the complete breakdown of both major parties and for the Coalition to start preferencing their minor right competitors.

As a result of the policy failure encouraged by preferential voting, the primary vote for both sides has collapsed. The sprawling nightmare of fragmented movements, particularly on the right, has turned Australian politics into something that looks more like a European framework where government becomes a painful negotiation.

The taboo topic in this discussion has been a Big Australia project with over 1.4 million people brought into Australia disproportionally from third-world nations governed by a socialist, Marxist, communist, or otherwise-leftist authoritarian regime. That these new arrivals, if granted citizenship, might one day cast their vote to the left is not a conspiracy theory, it is an observation made by today’s march.

Craig Kelly commented on this at the March for Australia – an anti-mass migration event calling on the government to pause migration entirely and start sending home tens of thousands of visa-overstayers and foreign criminals.

While speaking to Chris Coveries, Craig Kelly asked why Labor was allegedly interested in ethnic polling research on the voting patterns on migrants.

‘Because Labor wants to know what the voting patterns are of the people they imported into the country. That’s the only reason why they do it,’ said Kelly. That is his opinion, not our suggestion.

‘[Albanese’s] Net Zero policies are so detrimental to the economy that the only way he can get any growth in the economy, and to make sure he masks over the declining GDP per capita, is to import people.

‘So you make the economy bigger. That’s the same policy as if you annexed a few islands off Indonesia we could grow the Australian economy but the average slice of your pie – that’s GDP per capita – is declining.’

Migration and Net Zero are the two polices dominating conservative politics around the world.

The Liberals … well, they are still listening.

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