The conversation that surrounds the conflict in Ukraine has become, for the most part, a political Rorschach Test. That’s a problem, because there are shades upon shades of grey in this conflict. Whilst principles and moral culpability still matter, “Good Guy v Bad Guy” morality tales don’t necessarily get us closer to the truth.

As we move into the fourth year of this conflict, it’s never been more important to understand what’s really happening on the battlefield, and how it could end. To understand the state of play Will is joined by perhaps the best pundit on the war from its inception, Francis Dearnley. Francis is an Executive Editor at the Telegraph, and has hosted its brilliant daily podcast, Ukraine: The Latest, since Putin invaded Ukraine 2004 days ago.