Before the United Australia Party’s hotly anticipated Dr Peter McCullough Covid-19 Vaccine Conference in Sydney, Australia, Julie Sladden was invited to interview McCullough and fellow speaker John Leake about the politics of the pandemic. It was a surreal afternoon, sitting in the foyer of a swanky hotel that some of us would not have been allowed to set foot in a year ago, calmly discussing the state of tyranny lurking at the edges of civilisation.