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How to help black boys afraid of ‘acting white’

22 August 2015

9:00 AM

22 August 2015

9:00 AM

A black head teacher told me a story of his early days at a failing inner-city school. The job was a thankless one and everybody was waiting anxiously for the arrival of the new ‘super-head’ (the school had gone through three leaders in two years). In the playground it was leaked that the new head was an old-school type from Jamaica.

During his first encounter with the students, they asked him how many children he had. He told them he had one and that she lived with him and his wife.

‘No sir, how many do you have in Jamaica?’ they asked. He replied: ‘None.’ They jeered, ‘Oh sir you’re not a yard man, not a real Jamaican — you’re acting white.’

This, I’m afraid, is typical. For black families in Britain and United States there has long been a dilemma: the more you adopt middle-class behaviours, the more you are perceived as ‘acting white’ and having betrayed your roots. You are a ‘coconut’ or an ‘Oreo cookie’.

Among poor black school-age children, particularly boys, anxiety about being seen to be acting white is a huge barrier to getting on. In the US, much work has been done on why pupils fear being seen to be acting white. As long ago as 2004, Barack Obama, then a senator, warned that ‘Children can’t achieve unless we raise their expectations and turn off the television sets and eradicate the slander that says a black youth with a book is “acting white”.’


The ‘W’ word is directed at boys and girls who dare to speak in standard English, answer in class or involve themselves in after-school activities. This attitude can do real damage to the lives of black children — and increasingly of white children, too. It is a drag on their progress. Those who make it to university find that their professors expect them to be experts on the sociology of black life, rather than, say, Bach or ballet.

At least in America the problem is talked about and efforts are being made to counter it. In the UK we are nervous about being seen to be racist if we single out particular minority groups as struggling to get on.

The latest work by the Oxford researcher Steve Strand shows that, among groups with low socio-economic status, black Caribbean boys are performing least well. What is significant is that black boys from immigrant West African backgrounds do much better.

The Oxford study found that children with English as a second language were educationally behind all groups at the age of 11 — but at 16, having learnt English, they would rush past their peers. Kids who have English as a second language have a hunger to do well.

I put this down to the immigrant mentality. Recent immigrants from West Africa are more likely to have someone who went to university or who had a middle-class profession in their family than black Caribbean families who have lived in the UK for two or three generations. Nigerians, for example, insist that children devote themselves to their studies. If the children don’t listen, they are told: we’ll send you back to Lagos.

It is also significant that families from West Africa are more likely to have two parents than British Caribbean families. According to the Runnymede Trust, 59 per cent of black Caribbean children grow up in single-parent families, as opposed to 44 per cent of black African children. Family stability is a major factor in school success.

Recent migrant families also understand that to do well you have to be able to ‘code-switch’ — to adapt your behaviour depending on whether you are at home and among family or in the office and at school among others. One of the things that I see holding black Caribbean pupils back is a reluctance to modify their behaviour and language. What is fine with friends after school isn’t fine in a university or job interview. Migrant groups understand this because they are already outsiders. The children of migrants have a knack for adapting — they avoid the language of the streets when talking to teachers, and learn to tell lies to their peers about reading certain books or participating in uncool extracurricular activities. No one wants to be a goody-two-shoes.

At my charity Generating Genius, we try to get boys to take on a ‘migrant’ mentality. Too many initiatives aimed at under-performing boys pander to lowest-common-denominator interests: football, boxing or rap. We focus on Shakespeare, science and classical music. We get fantastic results with our dirt-poor students. We don’t tell the kids that they can be rappers or sportsmen, but that they should aspire to go to university — how very middle-class.

One boy told me that he liked being in Generating Genius because it was like being in a gang — but a gang that wanted him to get into Oxbridge. I have to fight their perception that ‘Oxford is full of posh people who don’t speak like me.’ The boys are petrified of being out of place in predominantly white circles. But it is the ‘acting white’ charge that prevents our poorest pupils from reading, doing their homework and thinking beyond the dole. We should instead tell pupils: ‘Act migrant.’

Dr Tony Sewell is chief executive of the charity Generating Genius.

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  • cartimandua

    Well done sir but do teach them to speak English. “ya get me” sinks life chances just as much as Eliza Doolittle’s “garn”.
    People just don’t “get them”.

    But why are Nigerians here at all?

    • red2black

      The same question Nigerians asked about the British not so long ago?

      • Terry Field

        Do they ask many questions about the British? I doubt it. My Nigerian friends don’t.

        • red2black

          I did mean back in colonial times.

          • jeffersonian

            Oops

        • Kennybhoy

          Interesting. In forty years of travelling in the developing world I have found folk to be incredibly curious and often quite surprisingly, quite wonderfully knowledgeable, about Britain and the rest of the world…?

      • Cobbett

        But we’re not there now are we? Not that there was a mass influx in the first place. We certainly left it in better condition than it is now.

        • red2black

          There seems to be plenty of British involvement in their economy, along with other countries.
          companylist.org/Nigeria/Keywords/Uk/
          http://www.nairaland.com/157957/list-multinational-companies-nigeria

          • Kennybhoy

            I do business there.

          • red2black

            Then I hope your business is successful.

          • Dogsnob

            It’s called globalism.

          • red2black

            Or corporate colonialism.

          • Dogsnob

            Same thing. And we’re under its feet just as much as any.

          • red2black

            I’d suggest it’s more pernicious in countries where the gap between the haves and the have-nots is the greatest.

          • Dogsnob

            Are we talking about nationally internal gaps or between nations/areas?

          • red2black

            Places, then; rather than countries.

        • willshome

          Having helpfully removed more than a million of it’s inhabitants to work in the plantations of the Americas. Or had you forgotten that too?

          • peter_dtm

            try looking up ARAB Slaving.
            The Europeans bought their slaves at the West coast – where the mortality rate was somewhat lower then the East coast trade.
            Dar es Salam was (& possibly still is) the biggest slave trading port in the world (where ? Dar es Salam an island in the Indian Ocea just off the EAST coast of Africa). Founded and run by … Arabs

            African Slavery – run (still run ?) by the Arabs with the eager help of the local tribes.

            Something you obviously also don’t know is that it was the Brits who STOPPED the world wide (repeat WORLD WIDE) trade in slaves from alll nations and all countries. For the 1st time in recorded history. (yup; everyone did slavery before the Brits stopped (ok tried to stop) them)

            But don’t ever let facts get in the way of political fantacy.

          • Johnny Foreigner

            When has this story ever been told on the BBC, you know, the TV station that educates the public?

          • peter_dtm

            Don’t be silly; everyone at the Beeb ‘knows’; as an article of faith; that all the evil in the world was caused by the British Empire & white Christian males. Why would you expect the Beeb or gruiniad to gain say their own mythology & faith (do I need to say “sarcasm” ?)

          • Dogsnob

            Ask those people if they would like to go back. And good luck.

          • Toy Pupanbai

            With the direct assistance of the local chiefs and their Arab associates!

          • Justin St.Denis

            Get your history straight, Skippy.

      • vieuxceps2

        Yes, but they sent us home,didn’t they? Why is one example good but not the other?

        • red2black

          I’m not claiming that one example is good and the other is bad. Past events play a part in shaping the present.

          • vieuxceps2

            But why should we not follow their example and send them home? After all, past events play a part in shaping the present….

          • red2black

            An eye for an eye? Hopefully, rather than that, we learn something in the process. If you think all Nigerians should be sent back to Nigeria for some reason, then fair enough. What the implications of such a move would mean for UK and other countries’ business interests out there would be, I’m not sure.

          • vieuxceps2

            You drew the parallel . I added the info that we’d been kicked out, Just following your train of thought, that’s all. But of course, such matters work only one way.don’t they? It’d never do fot Whitey to react to past injustice,would it?

          • red2black

            Whitey? What about things like trade and commerce that have developed in the meantime between Nigeria and many other countries?

          • vieuxceps2

            “Trade and commerce between Nigeria and….etc” Why pose this question to me? No doubt it’s of inordinate interest to you and ,one supposes, many others. But ! What has it to with me? Ask someone else.

          • Ned Costello

            We weren’t “kicked out” of Nigeria, we just left. A great pity for them of course, another 60 or 80 years of colonialism would have done them the world of good, like pretty well all of Africa in fact.

      • Dogsnob

        And what happened there?

        • red2black

          It seems we took the place over by military conquest, so I’m sure the question was asked. It sounds like it was an unmitigated disaster before we were there, when we were there, and after we were there.

          • Dogsnob

            “We”? I don’t recall my ancestors having anything to do with it. Am I supposed to feel some kind of responsibility?

          • red2black

            I’d call it an acknowledgement; hopefully on both sides.

          • Dogsnob

            That’s the thing though: I reject the notion that, just because I am of a certain race, rooted in a particular place, that I am exclusively a part of ‘one side’.

          • red2black

            I did mean in a general sense of colonised and coloniser. Of course, there will be militants on both sides, just as there will be others prepared to compromise and cooperate, form friendships, recognise injustices etc.

          • Dogsnob

            It’s far too general, to argue that just because I have the same skin colour as did some colonisers; just because I was born in and am resident in a place which was once ruled by people who colonised: that I am in any way a part of the colonisation project and that therefore I am in some way obliged to accept whatever reparation might be ordained.

          • red2black

            I wouldn’t suggest that you’re obliged to accept anything in relation to such matters, including the opinions of others, and theirs of yours or mine.

    • wudyermucuss

      Commonwealth.

    • Terry Field

      Did you watch Newsnight the other evening interviewing blacks about ‘hoes’!
      Our new cultural compost!
      Happy days!

      • sarahsmith232

        to be fair, those 2 black cretins would have been picked specifically because of conforming to the black cretin stereotype. the bbc is scandalous for this behaviour. lee jasper is a firm favourite not cause he has anything of worth to add but cause he can always be relied upon to make really very entertaining idiot statements

        • BraveNewWhirled

          We have politicians like that in the States. Most of them, in fact. But here, we worship them as though they are gods.

          • Minstrel Boy

            I think you will find it is the leftist media which encourages and promotes such ‘worship’. Most ordinary people see through such hype eventually, but then the media moves on. As Lincoln expounded, “You can’t fool all of the people all of the time.”
            The Kardashian multi-racial and pan-sexual clan is the current favourites. Used to be Bill Cosby’s TV family living their idyllic Manhattan Brownstone life back in the 80’s and then it was the Hollywood millionaire lawyer’s lot from Fresh Prince of Bel Air in the 90’s.
            Last time I looked, most millionaire Hollywood lawyers were Jewish. Funny how you never get any Family Show Series telling us how Wonderful they all are, as I’m sure they are. I guess having to coerce good Jewish boys to study for their exams just isn’t a saleable storyline. Gotta keep to the narrative, ya know!

        • MathMan

          I remember when Lee left public life to ‘clear his name’ after the scandal involving Ken Livingstone and lots of taxpayers’ money. How’s that going, Lee?

    • Bob339

      Freeloading.

      • Angharad

        The ones here are cleverer then you, thicko.

        • liamjq

          you rest your own case

          • Angharad

            Sorry, you thick post makes no sense.

    • Tom M

      I remember wen I first ventured into England (from Scotland). I was walking down through the factory where I worked in Ipswich when I stopped next to a black bloke working on a machine. After I spoke to him he looked at me and said “wha can yo spik lak tha quin man?” I just had to laugh walked off and…….adjusted my accent.

    • Whitey McPrivilege

      Vibrancy.

      • jeffersonian

        Keep it in your bedside table please.

    • Mongo Part II

      they’re here to meet those foolish enough to answer the ‘you are going to inherit ten million pounds’ emails

    • willshome

      Why are Nigerians here at all? Have you never heard the phrase “We are here because you were there”? Or did you forget we had an Empire?

      • Dogsnob

        So what?

  • Damaris Tighe

    Comparing 59% of Caribbean children growing in single parent families with 44% of African immigrant children does the opposite of what you intend. Both figures are shocking & contributed to the breakdown of the traditional family in wider society. The Jamaican custom of fatherless families seeped into neighbouring white working class families & made it look acceptable.

    Btw, Camila B of Kids Company also observed that female dominance in black families was holding back black boys.

    • red2black

      ‘The Jamaican custom of fatherless families seeped into neighbouring white working class families & made it look acceptable.’?
      Where I live, white working class families seem to have become single-parent without any outside influence. To be fair, many of them are supported by their extended families, but being a single-parent family in isolation must be a very difficult situation.

      • Damaris Tighe

        I lived in south London in the late 70s. I noticed that young unmarried single parenthood among the WI community was almost the norm (I was told by a Trinidadian that this was a largely Jamaican phenomenon). This was at a time when it wasn’t the norm amongst white working class girls. I think that where the two communities lived together, it seeped from one to the other & then into wider working class culture, supported by messages from female celebrities who had children outside marriage but could afford them. It was a pincer movement.

        Single parenthood has been a disaster for working class girls & women because they can’t afford it & it condemns them to support from benefits. I think it’s one reason why the underclass has grown.

        • Terry Field

          There are vast blocks of flats in housing association rentals full of fatherless families.
          The British future.
          Glad I am not a part of it.

          All paid for by the munificent State, previously overseen by St. Brown.
          Jambo!

        • red2black

          I believe what you describe is particularly relevant to London.
          The underclass is part of the working class.

          • Kennybhoy

            “The underclass is part of the working class.”

            Like fuck they are! 🙁

          • red2black

            They are the unemployed and welfare-dependent among the working class. A middle class person who is out of work is still middle class.

          • Kennybhoy

            Unemployed and welfare-dependent does not equal underclass.

          • red2black

            Then what does?

        • Kennybhoy

          ” I think that where the two communities lived together, it seeped from one to the other & then into wider working class culture…”

          Same phenomenon in Scotland at the same time but with no black folk to speak of.

          • Mary Ann

            I reckon it’s all those Celebs. having children outside marriage who are being copied.

          • Kennybhoy

            Actually to be historically accurate single mothers were, alas, not entirely uncommon prior to the middle years of the last century. The roots of our current decay lie in the sexual revolution/permissive society. You are right though, the pernicious effects of the sexual revolution were spread far and wide by celebrities and the media…

          • Damaris Tighe

            Even Camila B of Kids Company has pointed out the deleterious effects of female dominated WI & African families with absent fathers that exclude their boys when they start acting like males. I do suspect that in the mix is the normalisation of single parenthood introduced by these communities. But I take your point that this wasn’t the case in Scotland. As I said, celebs also have a lot to answer for. They can afford absent fathers, working class & underclass girls can’t.

            But thank you for not calling me a racist just for discussing the issue!

          • Kennybhoy

            “…that exclude their boys when they start acting like males.”

            Aye… 🙁

            “But thank you for not calling me a racist just for discussing the issue!”

            God forbid!

        • Kennybhoy

          ” I think it’s one reason why the underclass has grown.”

          Biggest single reason by far.

        • Gilbert White

          Have experienced this Trinidadian and Tobagian contempt for WI.

    • Angharad

      Are you seriously blaming Caribbeans fathers on white working class dads being absent; they’re perfectly capable of being shite fathers on their own!

      What a racist, fact fact pile of knee jerk crap.

      • Damaris Tighe

        Yup, I’m racist & unpleasant. That’s told me!

  • Matthew Stevens

    Oh we’re hard at work helping them are we?

    We’re teaching them the beauty and merits of Shakespeare are we?

    We’re helping them realise that speaking Jamaican Patois makes you utterly unemployable are we?

    Curious, I’m only 24, and less than ten years ago, during my schooling I recall reading and reviewing the following literary wonders in English class (which, scanning the BBC’s ‘GCSE bitesize’ page, appear to still be part of the meat and drink of the curriculum:

    http://www.intermix.org.uk/poetry/poetry_01_agard.asp

    “Explain yuself

    wha yu mean

    when yu say half-caste

    yu mean when Picasso

    mix red an green

    is a half-caste canvas?

    explain yuself

    wha yu mean

    when yu say half-caste

    yu mean when light an shadow

    mix in de sky”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing%27s_Changed

    “Brash with glass,

    name flaring like a flag,

    it squats

    in the grass and weeds,

    incipient Port Jackson trees:

    new, up-market, haute cuisine,

    guard at the gatepost,

    whites only inn.

    No sign says it is:

    but we know where we belong.”

    • Damaris Tighe

      Good lord ….

      • Kennybhoy

        Whit did he/she/it say? It’s been deleted. I miss all the good ones! 🙁

        • Damaris Tighe

          I don’t know why the poster deleted his comment. It may be because he uses his real name. He said he was 24 & posted part of his school English curriculum which was in patois.

          • Kennybhoy

            Jesus… 🙁

          • Damaris Tighe

            Hence the comments!

    • Terry Field

      Seek help. It can be found.

      • Kennybhoy

        What did he/she/it say?

  • Callan

    Perhaps if there wasn’t a Race Discrimination Act and all the ancillary Acts, positive discrimination, political correctness, the quota system and all the rest of it, they would not perceive themselves to be a different, protected species but part of the population as a whole.

    • Terry Field

      Anyone going to talk about IQ???

      • hedgemagnet

        *tumbleweed*

      • Whitey McPrivilege

        Now now! That would be ‘scientific racism’!

        Haven’t you read the work of pioneering professor Franz Boas, who argues that race doesn’t exist, & the idea of racial differences is a white Supremacist myth?

        • Zhang Wei

          You get different breeds of humanity, like dogs

        • Zhang Wei

          Different breeds look different but are essentially the same….why’s it so difficult for people to understand

        • bramhall

          Professor Franz Boas?
          A truly wonderful man. Can we now follow his ideas to their logical conclusion. Since race does not exist, it is absolutely clear that any so called racial discrimination and racial disadvantage also cannot exist. Ant perceived unfavourable discrimination experienced by one group of people must be a total mirage, and those who apparently experience it must have a very tenuous grasp on reality.

          • Mary Ann

            Your argument doesn’t add up, is a black cat a different race to a white cat, no, but some people are scared of black cats because they think that black cats are unlucky. It’s daft, but people believe it.

          • bramhall

            I was trying to show that Professor Franz Boas (if he does exist and does espouse his thesis that race does not exist) is actually not really in touch with reality.
            Race, in the human context, is not normally used to indicate beings not in the human race, but to describe people of different colour.
            It is mostly used in an incorrect way to indicate a different culture.
            A person of any colour can adopt any culture, but a person of any culture cannot adopt any colour, and it is nearly always cultural differences which are the most important in creating barriers between people.
            Just one example – most people in Britain relate very easily to non Muslim people from the Indian sub continent, who, by and large are middle class; educated and successful, but have great difficulty with Muslim people from part of the same subcontinent. This clearly has nothing to do with skin colour, and yet this attitude is labelled as racist and discriminatory.
            Confusing race and culture in the minds of many people; has been one of the great successes of the left wing, in keeping the idea alive that Britain is a racist country, which contributes greatly to the guilt feelings of white people and an active ethnic minority grievance industry.

    • Darnell Jackson

      Best comment on here

  • Bodkinn

    These kids need to have enough b-s to answer the accusation of
    being called ‘acting white’ with the counter that they would act like a monkey
    if it made them financially better off than their accusers. When I worked with black men I found some of
    them more racist than any white person than I have ever come across but then again
    they would never be accused of it; only white people are racist?. When a person is looking for an excuse as to
    why they have not prospered to declare themselves as victims of some sort of
    discrimination is very convenient.

    • red2black

      Of course racism isn’t the sole province of White people, but if you look at long-standing and contemporary theories behind the idea that a particular race is superior, or that there’s a fixed racial ordering, these theories and ideas are predominantly, if not completely, White.

      • Dan O’Connor

        Which definition of ” racism ” are you using ? How can ethno-nationalist kinist want to dominate and discriminate against non-Whites if they want seperation from them ?
        You implicate that Whites are genetically dispossesed to be genocidal , and other groups such as Mulism,Arabs, Blacks, Jews and Chinese and Japanese , and Mongols are incapable of supremacy ( i.e dominating Whites or other non-White groups whereever they are in the majority.
        The charge of ” White supremacism ” is a very serious charge, on par with accusing someone of mass murder or paedophilia , and you are ethnically bound by the rules of philosophical ethics to define
        ” racism ” and why too much kinism is destructive and invites conflict suffering and but a total absense of kinsim cannot be equally just as destructive for any society.

        The vast majority of the 92 % of the world’s non-White population practice discrimination in favour of their own kind / in-group favouratism / kinism unapologetically, unshamedly and uncontroversially.
        You are conflating racism with kinism.
        The European race cannot possibly survive its present practice of abnormal and unnatural and pathologically altruistic racíal asymmetry.

        • Terry Field

          Are you related to the sainted Des????

          • Dan O’Connor

            Are you related to the rest of your habitual smug , smirking , sneering one-liner drive-by comment disgusting little ilk ?

          • Angharad

            ‘Disgusting little ilk’ says the disgusting hater of all things not white.

            Thick and a hypocrite. Great combo.

        • red2black

          I’m not using a particular definition of racism, nor am I accusing anyone of anything. Race theories abound.
          I’m interested in the origins of such things, and whether they are right, wrong, or whatever, is a different matter.

      • Terry Field

        No, they are widespread. You should get about more. Try China, Japan, Korea for starters.

        • red2black

          There’s a matter of relevance. I’m not aware of any translations into English of race theory texts, other than French and German.

        • Fred Yang

          I had a friend of “Afro-Caribbean descent” who visited China recently – he got followed around, and pointed at, by hordes of Chinese wherever he went

      • q-pantagruel

        That is simply not true (as Terry Field points out below). Check out Muhammad Ali’s opinion on the subject in his 1971 interview with Michael Parkinson who desperately tries to maintain the white progressive liberal narrative, but fails.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1Y693cSF7E

        Even more interesting is the audience reaction. Hear their palpable sense of freedom as they are allowed to acknowledge what they really believe because a black man is saying it for them. Parkinson’s desperation is priceless. As Dan O’Connor points out below, there is a big difference between racism and the natural desire to associate with kin. I lived through the 60s and know racism. Racism is lynch mobs hanging strangers. Wanting to preserve your lineage is just selfish genes doing their natural thing.

        • red2black

          Race theories, not racism.

      • Duke_Bouvier

        or Asian

        • red2black

          Published works on race theory?

      • Solage 1386

        Non-whites, especially Asians, are more racist than whites.

        • Mary Ann

          Where did you get that information from?

          • logdon

            I’d start with the Koran.

          • Whitey McPrivilege

            Nah, the Talmud and Torah predate that.

          • logdon

            The difference being that?

          • Whitey McPrivilege

            No difference. That’s exactly my point.

          • logdon

            Are you blind?

          • Whitey McPrivilege

            You’ve not read the Talmud, have you?

          • logdon

            https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2014/10/06/video-islam-in-britanistan-undercover-mosque/

            ‘Video: Islam in Britanistan: Undercover Mosque

            None of this has been stopped in Britain by the government, who did not care to protect thousands of children raped, threatened, sold, drugged and many even killed by Muslim men. This mentality amongst Muslims that the video shows, especially Sunni Muslims, will be common in virtually every single mosque not only in Britain, but throughout Europe, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the US.’

            Now you tell me of any Jewish similarity.

            Your moral equivalence is quite outragous..

          • Dan O’Connor

            Far too many right wing pro-Israel spokesmen for the Jewish communties in the West who would never for one second speak the same way about Jews in Israel , are saying things like ” Norway is too White ” or ” Sweden is too White ” and have been at the forefront of aggressively lobbying for anti-speech laws and mass immigration to the West
            And any Jews who are prepared to publicly criticise this monstrous moral double standard amongst their own kind are nowhere to be seen.
            However , there is not one single White out of population of 750 million who would have the chutszpha to stand there an advocate replacement level mass immigration to Israel but closed borders for the West
            The hypocrisy is outrageous.

          • logdon

            And Jews are roaming the Globe slaughtering unbelievers.

            That was my point which you are either too dense to gather or are an obtuse Islamophile/anti-Semite.

          • Whitey McPrivilege

            Of course, they are our greatest ally!

            And who let the Muslims in you kosher cucks are always whinging about?

            Cue: Tony Blair! If it wasn’t for him deciding we needed enrichment, none of this would have happened!

            You have much to learn about the way the world really works.

          • logdon

            You are too dense to understand my obvious reply.

            And curb the anti-Semitism, your bigotry is showing.

          • Whitey McPrivilege

            Your tedious identikit anti-Islam post is to be found here a dime a dozen. But the Muslims are only the symptom; to whom do we owe the pleasure of having within our borders?

            Oh, there’s the magic silencing word again, the one which keeps you cuckservatives in line. ‘anti-Semitism’, right, right. We’re not supposed to ‘notice’ things, that’s anti-Semitic.

          • logdon

            Why not address the original response rather than your tedious rambling straw man?

            I repeat, right now IS is beheading, enslaving, raping and torturing either non-Muslims or those of the wrong sect.

            They are obeying the Koran to the letter.

            I’ve yet to see the Jewish equivalent.

            Case closed. I do not debate fascist lunatics.

          • goodsoldier

            I guess you don’t have many Indian and Black friends here and abroad. If you did, you would hear them admit it openly and you would notice that they much prefer their own race when it comes to friendships. They don’t see anything wrong with that attitude. For them it is a matter of comfort and feeling at ease. Statistics don’t prove anything as most people now know. So you can only get your information from living your life with a high degree of alertness, asking straightforward questions face-to-face and being fair-minded and naturally interested. There is no hard evidence, just experience and therefore anecdotal. All the research and studies are usually biased and a waste of money, usually tax-payer’s money. You will never be satisfied and get the answer you want.

        • red2black

          Race theory; not racism.

      • Whitey McPrivilege

        I think you’ll find the belief that one’s own race is superior, or destined to rule, began in earnest with God’s chosen people.

        • red2black

          I did point out to a Scot that God is an Englishman.
          He said “Yes, a black Catholic one.”

      • Richard Baranov

        Then you obviously haven’t had prolonged exposure to non-white cultures or speak a non-white language and therefore have no idea what non-white people think. Whites, I have to tell you are, as a matter of fact, the least racist people around.

        • red2black

          As I’ve pointed out in other replies – race theories; not racism. Also, please take account of the first line of my comment you replied to. Generally speaking, I’d say you’re right about White people being the least racist, but I’m sure there are exceptions.

    • Terry Field

      Indeed, a paramount chief friend of mine still keeps slaves, and said that his lot sold the thick tribes to us!
      How many of the whities could get away with THAT!

  • Hippograd

    Surely vibrant black yoots would be better off in a nation not riddled top to bottom with racism and white supremacy? I suggest Somalia.

    • Terry Field

      Somalia?
      Yes, good idea, why do you not go there!

      • Ray Spring

        Probably because he is English and has roots going back, in England, over a thousand years. You Terry want to expel people like that from England. You may soon get your wish when the English are forced out of England. I left well before the present situation.

        • Terry Field

          ME!
          Why ever would you suggest such a thing!
          Tish tish!

        • Whitey McPrivilege

          And where did you go to? The genocide project is happening to all White countries; only, some are more developed in that project than others. Admittedly, Britain is one of the worst.

          • Cobbett

            E Europe seems to be bucking the trend.

          • Ambientereal

            If things keep going on like now, the only way is to the west and south-west like 1492.

          • Ray Spring

            I am sure Britain is one of the worst examples. May I suggest you consider the South Island, New Zealand. Avoid the North Island and in particular Auckland. The European heritage is being destroyed all over the world.

          • G B

            Yes, I heard a person say ‘nobody says China is too Chinese’ you could extrapolate that to India is too Indian or Japan is too Japanese etc…. It is only white regions that have to apologies for being, or wanting to remain white.

          • Whitey McPrivilege

            Exactly, mate!

          • Toy Pupanbai

            I haven’t heard anyone in China saying that they want more diversity or ethnicity, to be represented in positions of power, like Cameron wishes for the UK!

      • Dan O’Connor

        I would not suggest Somalia because Somalians might take revenge against Blacks of Bantu heritage for the attacks and murders committed by mobs of South African blacks against illegal Somalian economic refugees who come over the border to exscape the poverty of Somalia,

      • q-pantagruel

        Perhaps Hippograd is being sarcastic?

        • Mary Ann

          Or perhaps he wasn’t.

      • Bob339

        Vulgarity instead of reasoned discussion? How quaint.

        • Mary Ann

          It was a sensible response to a nasty comment.

          • jeffersonian

            Now that’s an objective comment if I ever saw one.

          • Cobbett

            It was a childish response.

      • CortexUK

        Look up “sarcasm”.

      • vieuxceps2

        Why should he ? It’s probably not much different to parts of England .

      • Hippograd

        Because I don’t belong there. I’m a stale pale male lacking in vibrancy but replete with racism.

    • Jugurtha

      Why did you write that? It took balls to write that article. The guy gets enough undeserved grief every day from people he’s trying to help…and he keeps plodding on. Fair play to him. He’s stood up, looked at his own community, seen the problems and decided to do something about it. He’s also prepared to acknowledge and discuss the problems; not deny they exist or blame anyone else. I thought that’s what you people wanted.

      • Kennybhoy

        Really lovely post until that incredibly naive last sentence. 🙁

        • Jugurtha

          Not sure what you mean. Half the posts on here are about how black people /Muslims / feminists / immigrants / whatever have got to sort themselves out, get a grip and stop blaming white men for every single problem they face. Along comes this guy and expresses exactly that sentiment and what does he get? A pound shop xenophobic gag telling him to f**k off back to Africs.
          You can’t have it both ways. Either you read this piece and say to yourself: “well done that man…that’s exactly what I’ve been saying” or you just admit that whatever he’d written makes no difference because at the end of the day you’re a full time, full-on racist.
          I was giving the poster the benefit of the doubt of not assuming the latter. If that’s where you think the naivety arises, then fair enough. I just like to assume the best of people…generally before I get to know them.

          • chesters

            yes: Tony Sewell deserves a lot of credit for his work. In an article in Prospect magazine (October 2010) he discusses the reasons for the academic failure of Black Caribbean boys specifically:
            ‘what we are seeing in schools is children undermined by poor parenting,peer group pressure, and an inability to be responsible for their own behaviour. They are not the subjects of institutional racism. They have failed their GSCEs because they did not do their homework, did not pay attention, and were disrespectful to their teachers. Instead of challenging our children, we have given them the discourse of the victim – a sense that the world is against them and they cannot succeed’. Sewell doesn’t go down the ‘black history/identity/victim’ road: he tries to move his students away from negative peer pressure and towards academic achievement and intelligence. I think this is to be encouraged.

          • Kennybhoy

            “If that’s where you think the naivety arises, then fair enough.”

            It is. But upon re-reading my post I realize that it was rather clumsily worded. Mea culpa.

      • Hippograd

        What “we people” want is our nations back. Yes, Tony Sewell is honest and admirable to some extent, but he doesn’t want us to have our nations back: he wants to pretend that his race is capable of living here on equal terms. His task is hopeless: too few blacks are capable of high intellectual achievement. And why should we bother when we have a population that is proven over millennia to be capable of high achievement in every field from physics to exploration? Mr Sewell should want blacks to have their own nations and control their own destinies.

        • cecile10

          You’re possessed of a towering intellect, I presume?

          • Hippograd

            No. And the pain in my knuckles makes it very hard to concentrate. It’s better when I walk on grass.

  • Felixthecat

    The thing is though the thirst for authenticity is completely a-historical.

    Theodore Dalrymple, who worked as a doctor in Tanzania, skewered this attitude perfectly in his book “the Wider Shores of Marx” (talking about a parade in North Korea)

    “And whenever an African delegation took to the running track, the blacks in the British delegation, on of them with Rastafarian dreadlocks and wearing woollen cap in colour of the Ethiopian flag, accorded them a tribute, making ape-like grunting noises in unison, apparently under the impression that this reversion to the jungle was show somehow pan-African. At first I was embarrassed, and inclined to laughter, but in the last resort, I found it melancholy, because these young people wanted desperately to identify with cultures and people whom they deeply ignorant, simply because they were the same – or similar racial origin.”

    • Damaris Tighe

      The irony is that WI schooling was very traditional & taught an English cultural curriculum (Shakespeare, Keats etc). The first WI immigrants often thought they were coming to the homeland. Then to their horror British schools taught their children about their supposed African culture & used teaching methods that condemned their kids to the scrapheap.

      • Terry Field

        Why are you going on about the Women’s Institute?
        This is about Black people!!

        • Damaris Tighe

          WI = West Indian.

          • AJH1968

            Don’t feed it.

      • Kennybhoy

        Aye. Once again it is not immigrants that are the root of the problem. It’s our indigenous left-liberals. Millions of children – black, white, whatever – betrayed and condemned.God’s curse on the bastards! 🙁

        Did Diane Abbott not consider sending her son to Jamaica to escape the British comprehensive sysyem she and her ilk support?

    • Terry Field

      Indeed so.
      And we live with the consequences.
      Or rather those who remained in Britoland do.
      Jambo!

    • Mary Ann

      Why do so many people seem to think that you must hate Britain if you don’t have a problem with black people. Black people are not the problem, the problem is those who are stupid enough to judge a person by the colour of their skin.

      • Felixthecat

        You’re either being incredibly stupid or being deliberately obtuse.

        • Mary Ann

          So polite! I don’t think you understand cats. You should change your name to Rover.

        • vieuxceps2

          I fear it’s the former….

      • Dan O’Connor

        You have constructed a paradigm of oversimplified falsehoods
        Being Irish , British , Japanese , Chinese , or Icelandic or Tibetan , is not nothing more significant than a skin pigment .
        How many times do we have to tell you this
        Skin pigment is the least important aspect of nationhood, peoplehood, culture, ethnicity ,civilization and race .
        Nations are things which evolve organically over a long period of time.

      • Whitey McPrivilege

        So you go find yourself a nice Black man to marry, then Mary Ann, have loads of kids with him, there’s a good girl, so tolerant, so vibrant, it’s so great that you’ve been able to surpass this hatred, that’ll send a message to the White supremacist Christian patriarchy, if it wasn’t for you lefty SJWs to keep them in check, imagine what those evil Nazis running the show would get away with!

        Yours,
        Global Inc

        • Angharad

          You can loathe globalisation and not buy into apartheid you know.

      • Cobbett

        You judge a person by their actions.

        • Dan O’Connor

          Oh really ? . All 7 billion humans we are supposed to judge on a one by one individual merit basis ? While totally ignoring that competing human collectives / organisms consisting of tens of millions of people react as human collectives have always done , and that is as human collectives.
          See , this is where the Western mind has driven itself scatty with cutsey sounding abstractions that have no basis in reality or how the world actually works.
          It will be the death of us .

      • vieuxceps2

        Ah,so you notice when people have different colours of skin,do you? I don’t hate Britain except when I go somewhere and find only Black people there, in England. Don’t seem right.Just imagine ,my dear, a holiday in Jamaica and we didn’t see a single Black. SO disappointing….

      • goodsoldier

        You’re talking here about Dianne Abbot and most North Londoners.

      • Good point.

        We tend to forget that Martin Luther King dreamt of a country where his children were still judged….only for the content of their character and not the colour of their skin.

  • Terry Field

    Anyone going to broach the subject of intelligence????

    • AverageGuyInTheStreet

      The African industrial revolution, enlightenment, home grown high tech industries, world class pharmaceutical and engineering organisations, and advanced societies are testament to that.

    • English_Electric

      I’m not a racist, but, all my Black friends are thick as ****.

      • Mary Ann

        You can judge a person by the company he keeps, you will be about the same level of intelligence as your friends.

        • English_Electric

          You can judge a person by the company he keeps, you will be about the same level of intelligence as your friends

          Well, I say friends.

          I meant more, dealers, really.

          • Mary Ann

            You should say what you mean.

          • English_Electric

            I do apologise.

          • Whitey McPrivilege

            Enrichers, boosting our economy! They do the jobs we won’t do!

      • Angharad

        They’re ripping you off while you buy their shite drugs at a huge profit to them so they don’t sound stupid to me.

        You on the other hand………………..

        • Kennybhoy

          lol! 🙂

    • Dave Cockayne

      The Bell Curve, the most hated book in sociology. It’s a good read…

      • Sten vs Bren

        It’s a crock of sh*t and anybody can see it is. IQ tests? In this day and age?

        • Dave Cockayne

          With the exception of a few freaky conditions like Asperger’s Syndrome etc IQ is still the best predictor of success and wealth.

          People with IQ’s of 170+ don’t tend to spend a lot of time on benefits or commit many crimes.
          People with IQ’s of 70 or below don’t tend to win Nobel prizes or contribute much to the progress of the human race.

          Why is that?

          • bramhall

            Because the Nobel Prize award process is flawed and is Eurocentric (includes North America), concentrates only on those disciplines such as Physics, Biology, Chemistry, Mathematics and Literature which are for the most part the preserve of Western Scholarship. Instead the scope of Nobel Prizes should be widened to include many field of endeavour for which Africa has been famous for many hundreds of years.

          • goodsoldier

            Maya Angelou writes terrible poetry, but it has nothing to do with her ethnicity, only her ego and the support of affirmative action racists.

        • Copyright101

          IQ tests correlate very well with educational success, financial success and suchlike.

          • goodsoldier

            They can’t test artistic/literary brilliance. Otherwise you are probably right.

          • Copyright101

            True, there isnt a lot of recorded correlation between painting, music and so on and IQ. I believe there have been attempts to make a measure of creativity, a CQ, but it’s not been successful.

      • Zhang Wei

        Jews are the most intelligent group amongst humanity

  • Dan O’Connor

    Nobody mentions White Left / Liberal /Progressive White Racial Inferiorism / White Racial Inferiorists who have totally dominated discource, politics, and social policy within the wider political / media / academic sphere for over 50 years.
    For the last 50 years , the White race has been the only race on the planet that it has been possible for other Whites and non-Whites to collectively demonise, offend, insult, vilify, stigmatise, indict, de-kinise, disinherit, disempower, balkanise, re-tribalise , replace and ethnically dilute with utter and total impunity , while at the same time interpreting this as the greatest act of charity one can aspire to and proof of one’s moral supremacy , modernity and intellectual sophistication.

    • rationality

      On the plus side we can say this type of thing now much easier and there are less and less fools who will say the r word for such a post.

    • q-pantagruel

      Apropos of this, see my comment below regarding Muhammad Ali: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1Y693cSF7E

      • Dan O’Connor

        Of course , deafening and embarrasing silence from the Left .
        Is it cos e’ is black ?

    • goodsoldier

      Keep telling the truth despite the resistance and opprobrium. I know it is a strain, the constant effort of combatence, but please don’t give up. You are appreciated and feared for your precise analysis.

      • Dan O’Connor

        Thank you goodsoldier.

  • AverageGuyInTheStreet

    Black kids in London are more advantaged in terms of education and career prospects than millions of white children living in depressed areas of the UK. Yet all we hear about is de poor picknies, an how dem a worry bout bein call a coconut or de batty boy. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/white-british-school-children-worst-hit-by-poverty-2069511.html

  • Dan O’Connor

    Just what the Left / Liberals always dreamed about. The import en masse of an endless number of third world pet ” victims ” of ” White racial supremacy ” for the control freak middle / upper class champagne Left to exploit to get their daily
    ” love me — I’m a Liberal ” White ethno-masochism ego-glow fix and plenty of employment opportunities in the massive tax payer funded multi-cult industry
    The Cult Marx Left have constructed a mind–meme that has inserted itself into the collective psyche of Western man , that see themselves as sheltering the other 92 % of the world’s population of far more worthy, noble, virtuous, helpless, innocent and racially unaware non-Whites from the ” evil ” White race that is just itching for the slightest pretext to turn into a bunch of genocidal lynch mobs .
    Only by massive dispossession level third world replacement can ” racism ” be eradicated finally from the planet earth , which means the eradication of all White people.
    The Left believe that the rest of the 6.2 billion of the planet are all potential Left /Liberals would would never take advantage of our weakness to advance their own group’s interests, and so what, even if they did , it’s ” pay back ” time for all the sins of our fathers .

  • DennisMcScumbag

    No one likes an Uncle Tom !

    It is bad for both whites and blacks.

  • jim

    “How to help black boys afraid of ‘acting white’”
    The question should be: How do we stop white kids acting black.What is not being said here is that black culturesociety is wrecking the west.The bigots were right.

  • Dan O’Connor

    In the USA, the mainstream media has spent the last 50 years portraying the USA as a country where mob of White red necks run around attacking and killing Blacks with impunity.
    In reality , 85 % of all the violence between Blacks and Whites , is committed by Blacks against Whites . And yet Blacks are only 13 % of the population and Whites are 65 % .
    95 % of Black homicide victims are murdered by other Blacks .
    Blacks kill more Blacks in Chicago every year than all the Black victims of lynching over the last 100 years .
    In an average year there are 20, 000 Black on White rapes , and 0 to 10 White on Black rapes .
    The USA media transforms every White on Black conflict as inconic national teaching moment for months. Whereas the most grusome and barbaric racially motivated Black on White atrocties are quietly swept under the rug .
    If this is not proof of a monstrous institutionalised cult of Anti-White racism , then what is ?
    How does the Left/ Cuckservative establishment deal with this embarrasing
    statistic ? They do it by evolving an entire arsenal of damage limitation circular –heads they win –tails Whites lose –arguments . They blame White people for every Black social disfunctionalism.
    Leftism / Cult Marxism can be defined as the following ;
    Any ideas that are not hostile, negatived of destructive to Whites , is not logical
    And any ideas that are hostile, negative and destructive to Whites are logical.
    White-ism , / Whiteness is itself a form of sin.

    • vieuxceps2

      I share your views on these matters, but what puzzles me is who produces this propaganda, and why is it promulgated? .The newspapers are generally owned and written by White people although the TV and radio media are under the control of the Left who are usually anti-White,but even so I fail to understand who will benefit from misrepresentation of reality. In short, cui bono? Any ideas?

  • Dan O’Connor

    In 2013 , over 200 research academics from over 100 institutions who are the leading experts in the fields of genetics and race, met to discuss the results of the latest research at the University of California Los Angeles. ( UCLA )
    Among many other findings , it was confirmed that;
    North East Asians ( Chinese / Japanese / Koreans ) have a larger cranial brain cavity than Europeans
    Europeans have a larger cranial brain cavity than Africans.
    This was also stated by Darwin over a hundred years ago.

    North East Asian women have a wider birth canal than European women to give birth to babies with larger heads than Europeans or Africans
    European women have wider birth canals than African women, to give birth to babies with larger heads than Africans
    Because African women have narrower birth canals and therefore narrower pelvic gates they have also more vertical hip / thigh bones , which is why African women
    ( and African men ) can run faster in athletic sports than White women / men.

    There has been a well orchestrated attempt to purge out any science that does not conform to Leftist dogma from Western academia since WW2 by polticising / cult marxifying the human science departments of Western academia.
    Academics dealing with controversial issues and in particular to do with sociological and racial sciences in Western academia and media have been put under tremendous psychological pressures to ignore or avoid and self censor anything that challenges the prevaling Left Cult Marx narrative that blames the disfunctionalism and high crime rates of Black societies and their inability to create low crime, high trust , safe and prosperous societies on the actions of White people
    This is a form of institutionalised, academic, / cultural Communism, where any sociological / biological evidence is rejected , unless it has some ” good ” in it.
    The emotionalisation and sentimentalisation of science.

    • Kennybhoy

      Do you get out much? 🙁

      • Dan O’Connor

        5 years of constant travelling , in 26 countries, over land, no flying , lived and worked in some off them speak a foreigh language , and have close up, in the field street wise experience of a no-go zone . Used to be a sort of 60’s 70’s 80’s Lefty , but didn’t spend my whole life in a Lefty hipster BBC / Guardian indoctrination echo-chamber .

        • Sten vs Bren

          How many other Irish British Nationalists are there?

        • Kennybhoy

          Five years? That’s a lot. A well traveled and educated Nazi then…?

          • Dan O’Connor

            Fekk, –it must have taken hours for you to rack your brains and dream up that incredibily brain dead highly original 16 year old flower power hippy response
            So, when did you stop beating your wife Kenny boy ? .

      • John Robert

        What are you doing here?

        • Kennybhoy

          On this thread? In this forum? In Britain? In this life?

          Define “here” please? 😉

  • Dan O’Connor

    ” The greatest enemy of mankind, is error ”

    Over the last 50 years , a ” no platform ” Iron Curtain has descended across those once proud citadels of courageous debate and enquirey, that we call Western universities. Their dirty little secret is the belief that the only truth is that there is no truth. That mankind is infinitely pliable and perfectible , and that there is no such thing as human nature , and that even if there is , don’t worry , such an “evil ” thing will soon be punished / indoctinated out of us. That there exist no timeless and unchanging rules and laws that lay beyond man and his powers to change them.
    They have become Orwellian DoubleThink Stalinist intellectual indoctrination gulags of pseudo science, anti-intellectual tyranny , cringing moral and intellectual cowardice and conformism , a modern day secular religion rooted in a belief in modern day superstitions and mysterious supernatural forces and demonic powers that are constantly plotting, such as White-ness , White racism ” ” xenophobia ” that are constantly plotting to destroy the Establishments glorious march towards a future uniform , monochrome, borderless, de-nationalised, de-culturalised, de-sexualised , de -ethnicised, non-diverse , rainbow brotherhood of man global consument shopping mall. MacWorld–where all human differentation and not sameness is finally eradicated for all time .
    They call this war on human diversity = ” Diversity “. We must all bow down and worship at the altar of the Left hippy Diversity God.

    • Angharad

      Yawn.

      • goodsoldier

        He is not boring at all. He is a voice in the wilderness against groupthink in which you are so comfortable. You have a version of Tourette’s syndrome, ready to shout racism at the slightest hint of non-comformity to your egotistical and common attitude.

        • Angharad

          No, I shout racist when someone posts a comment exposing their racist views.

          If people are unhappy about this I suggest having a lot more consideration for other races.

    • Kennybhoy

      Normally I would hesitate before advocating fornication but you really need to get laid man!

      • goodsoldier

        You should get out of the college dorms more and do some real work. Pubescent advice from an inexperienced man-boy like yourself gets tiresome and is so passe. Are you pretending you are Obama or Jesse Jackson or Yvette Cooper? You know the type who make fortunes in the race industry and think plenty of sex with anybody works wonders, especially for the very young.

        • Kennybhoy

          College dorms? I left the Grove of Academe behind many years ago troll. As for the rest? A word of advice. Do some research on an adversary before entering into debate with him. Less likely to make a fool o’ yersel’ that way.

  • Bob339

    We must return all blacks to Africa. This is not racism. How can a nation mature into civilization if it does not learn to face and solve its own problems? All they do now is take a break from hating and blaming whitey and run to freeload, often through a greater hell than they would have faced if they had manned up and stood up to their problems.
    Of course this will condemned as racism blah blah blah… But see if the situation has changed in 20 years from now and ask yourself who was right.

    • Mary Ann

      You are trying to wind people up, aren’t you? What about mixed race people, how much white or Chinese, Asian, etc. in them before they are allowed to stay, you would have got on well with Hitler.

      • DennisMcScumbag

        I agree, repatriation would hold huge problems. The better solution is to allow whites, who want to live in relative peace amongst their own stock, to separate from the rest.

        This would simply start with a process of buying farm land, creating small communities and allowing like minded people to buy into the community as it grows.

        Everyone would be happy with that solution, unless you’re an authoritarian.

        • Mary Ann

          I wonder if they would get planning permission for change of use.

        • red2black

          People will always find something to fight about, whether they’re separate or not.

          • DennisMcScumbag

            True, but there would be far less friction than there is now.

            Rotherham would not have happened without diversity and its accompanying political correctness.

          • red2black

            I agree with you about that. If the working class took more interest in running their own affairs, such things wouldn’t happen. On the other hand, some people’s concern about this issue seems to amount to little more than political party points-scoring. I think it was a ‘Panorama’ team that was able to track down one of the alleged main perpetrators in a matter of hours.

          • Dan O’Connor

            The 16 years of criminal complicity by the local authorities, their police force , media and social services WAS
            ” the political point scoring “

          • red2black

            I agree with you about that. Even so, there seems to have been little action taken against the people you mention, or anyone else for that matter. It has to amount to more than being a stick to beat Labour or whoever else with, because in the meantime, such abuses have continued to take place.

        • Angharad

          So you want apartheid in Britain. Er no thanks. We’re (mostly) a tolerant nation.

          • DennisMcScumbag

            Not apartheid, just separate nations eventually.

            Seems a tolerant position unless you’re intolerant, of course ?

        • goodsoldier

          Libertarian communities of the future? Gated communities? Little towns with high walls, like Lucca, or moats? Perhaps you are right and this is the future. One can live with whom one wants to. This is already happening in Hampstead.

      • Dan O’Connor

        Why should anyone debate with someone like you who practices the blatant moral and racial double standards of denying the same rights of blood, land, heritage and identity to White people ( and only White people ) that you recognise for all non Whites ?
        That is a form of racial apartheid .

        • Mary Ann

          I asked, how white or something non black, a person had to be before Bob would allow them to stay, where did I deny white people the same rights as people of other colours. No one should be judged by the colour of their skin, what is wrong with that.

          • Dan O’Connor

            The very paradigm of your thinking is false , so every thing you construct upon it is a sociological falsehood.

            No. I am not making decisions based on race . I am making decisions based on shared ancestry, history, kinship, language, heroes , legends , customs, literature, arts, song, and the other thousand complexities that create human societies that are not transformed into the bunch of atomised, rootless, consumer, hyper individualism that your ilk strive to create
            Societies where the individual is willing to make sacrifices for the good of the society as a whole and not just for selfish personal gain are societies where the individual sees part of himself reflected in that society and that society reflected in himself . It is about feeling like oneself and one’s children have a stake in that society . A feeling of being a link in a chain stretching back into our distant past and all of our ancestors who have gone before us , and to the present and all those of our people in the present and those who are not yet born. It is a sacred thing , a spiritual thing , a beautiful thing that the dead world of mechanical materialist Leftist Marxian thinking cannot possibly fathom
            A liberal progressive sociologist named Byron M. Roth devoted several years to investigating racially / ancestrally / historically diverse societies and chose Los Angeles as his study. He was shocked to find out that his research debunked all of his Liberal progressive preconceptions , and that racially diverse societies are where people exhibit far less altruism and involvement in charitable causes , and they develope a ” bunker ” mentality ” where they don’t mix with other races and stay at home watching television and feel alienated from their enviroment . He wrote an book on this called
            ” The Perils of Diversity ”
            What proof evidence do you have that multi-racial societies are a vast improvement over mono-racial societies ?
            I have all the evidence of history and human experience for the last 3000 years as proof that they are not superior but invite conflict . No human society is born diverse.

      • Bob339

        Oh dear! Like all other lefties you need all think-free answers. How do you raise your children? Oh! Got it! Nobody want kids with a half wit!

      • Bob339

        I did. We were out boozing twice a week with Eva and Martin. Goebels kept aloof though.

    • Sten vs Bren

      Why don’t you kill yourself, instead? It’s not rude to suggest that. Of course, this will be condemned as rude blah, blah, blah but if the situation isn’t tackled now, where will we all be?

      • Bob339

        You must think before you wank.

    • Angharad

      Oi fuckface, you don’t get to decide where British people live.

      You and the other far right racists are the ones doing the blaming.

  • IainRMuir

    “‘Oh sir you’re not a yard man, not a real Jamaican — you’re acting white.’
    This, I’m afraid, is typical.”

    Yes, and let’s be honest about it, it’s also an example of Black racism.

  • Johnny Foreigner

    Just imagine if they just weren’t here, wow, blue sky thinking, radical. A long with all the other deliberately imported problems we have and the ones that are yet to come to fruition. Imagine if they just were gone, what would this country be like, what would our concerns be then?

    • Sten vs Bren

      If the children were not here? It would be a bit quieter but it would be a bit more boring.

    • Chamber Pot

      It is called Reconquista. Don’t despair it may take a while but I guarantee it will happen.

      • Johnny Foreigner

        I have to put my hand up and say I had to look the word up, but it only depressed me further, the reconquest took 781 years.

  • Dan O’Connor

    Mary Ann

    The pseudo ideology that your ilk have fabricated is constructing a future explosive powder keg by first importing tens of millions of third world high birth rate semi illiterate alien peoples , and then educating them 24 /7 with Left wing mantras to believe that the White man is the cause of all their failures and all the world’s evils , has no reeding features whatsoever and that a future ” pay back ” time would be absolutely morally justifiable . Quite an explosive cocktail you’ve made there.
    Your ilk of half educated half wits care more about the rights of the natives of Papua New Guinea , who have contributed eff-all to the world , ( apart from cannibalism ) than the greatest , most successful race in all of human history , who invented the modern world and whose achievements have never been equalled in every single field of human endevour .
    Well now , doesn’t that take the cake ? But worse yet, our once proud citadels of learning and curosity are full of quarter educated 20 year old pseudo experts on Life , the Universe and Everything . A massive cult of clever sounding fakes , fraudsters and fashion fad global compassion posers .

    • Angharad

      Dan O’Connor fills up this thread with his tedious, paranoid waffle once again.

      Quelle surprise,

      • Dan O’Connor

        But I don’t fill it up with sanctimonious one-liners like your mob of intellectually challenged little tantrum brat demogogues.

        • Angharad

          Nothing ‘sanctimonious’ about my comment Dan.

          I’m taking the piss out of you if you hadn’t noticed. Have you ever considered using less clichés and doublespeak?

          • Dan O’Connor

            ” I’m taking the piss out of you ”

            NO ! Please tell me this is not true !
            No 6th form, A level luvvy would ever do that

    • Angharad

      “Well now , doesn’t that take the cake ?”

      Take the cake where? You don’t specify.

      • Dan O’Connor

        We are well accustomed to the way in which your ilk attempt to camouflage your intellectual inadequacies and sloth by substituting reasoned debate and philosophical sportsmanship with smirking, sneering , smug hippy student personal insults .

        • Angharad

          Dan, it wasn’t an insult.

          I think you meant ‘doesn’t that take the biscuit’ if it helps.

  • Sten vs Bren

    Not this old chestnut. Kids take the piss out of their teacher. Hold the press.

  • Jim

    You need to counter anti-white racism in the ‘black community’.

    • Angharad

      Maybe there wouldn’t be any if racist assholes stopped hating them for no fucking reason other than a thick, narrow minded dislike of the colour of their skin.

      • Jim

        Calm down and try that again maybe.

        • Angharad

          Nope, I got it right the first time. Reread it if you can’t understand it.

          • Bob339

            You have never, ever got anything right.

          • Angharad

            Coming from a thick no nothing like you, that’s fucking laughable.
            You’re a thicko racist.

      • Whitey McPrivilege

        I don’t hate them. In fact, I feel awful for them being oppressed under our racist, White supremacist media. That’s why I would be happy to pay towards sending them to Africa, where they will no longer have to be oppressed.

        • Angharad

          Listen smart alec, they’re born here; this is their country and they’re not going anywhere.

          • Dan O’Connor

            A country that belongs to anyone and everyone, belongs to no one .
            What you mean is that everything that belongs to non-Whites , belongs to non-Whites , and everything that belongs to Whites also belongs to non-Whites .
            What you mean is that there is no shared ancestral basis for White nations , but this rule of yours does not apply to non-White nations
            You are practicing racial double standards and racial apartheid , with Whites not having the same rights as non-Whites

          • Angharad

            How can I be a ‘racial apartheid’ when I don’t believe in apartheid on racial greats you great thicko?

            And stop imaging you know what I’m thinking. Most people stop that kind of behaviour in childhood.

            You’ve made talking shite into an art form.

          • Dan O’Connor

            ” Stop imaging how I’m thinking ”

            You don’t think . Like the rest of your gobal compassion posing ilk –you emote .

          • Sten vs Bren

            How many times have you said ‘ilk’, you great twerp?

          • Dan O’Connor

            If it walks like an ” ilk ” and talks like an ” ilk .. it’s an _ _ _

            Please fill in the missing word in the intelligence test above

      • Dan O’Connor

        It has bugger all to do with skin pigment. It has to do with everything else apart from skin pigment

        • Angharad

          But Dan, your posts make non-stop reference to the colour of people’s skin.
          It’s so utterly irrelevant as to be meaningless in a workable society.

          • Dan O’Connor

            No I don’t . You are fabricating a false paradigm
            I am as opposed to millions of high birth rate , low IQ , illterate , Russians moving en masse to Iceland , Norway or Lithuania , and balkanising , and minoritising the historical peoples of those countries
            It is not about skin pigment . It is about that nationhood , peoplehood is evolved organically over a long period of time and is rooted in having the social bonds that come from a shared ancestry, kinship , language, history, mythology, legends, heroes , customs, literature , arts , song and a wish to devote oneself to preserving them and passing them on to future generations , instead of atomising a society into a bunch of rootless individuals who have been ripped asunder from their communal roots .
            It is inhuman do do that to any peoples
            Your ilk would move heaven and earth to defend the rights of non-White indigenous peoples .

          • Angharad

            Dan, I don’t buy into race based bullshit. I believe in treating everyone equally no matter what their race.

            I understand that that is extremely hard for you to comprehend with your obvious limited capacity for free thought but do try harder.

          • Dan O’Connor

            If everyone of your ilk believed in treating everyone the same , no matter what their race is , there would never have been replacement , / minoritisation level mass immigration to all White countries ( but only White countries ) you fanatical anti-White hypocrite.
            All Non Whites understand the concept of peoplehood and the extended family by primordial instinct and would rise up to stop replacement level mass immigration of alien and competing racial groups.
            You are a stranger to ” free thought ” because everything you spout consists of a bunch of hand-me-down , standard issue kit luvy duvy kumba ya Lefty cliches and mantras .

          • Whitey McPrivilege

            ‘Free thought’, sayeth the drone who has the exact same cliched PC ‘opinions’ on multicultural diversity as every mainstream news outlet and every mainstream political party, all of whom, might I add, are funded by the same globalist bankers you Marxist-addled useful lefty idiots despise.

            ‘I believe in treating everyone equally, no matter what their race’ Then treat Whites the same as everybody else and allow them an ethnic homeland and self-determination. In other words, f*ck off back to wherever you came from and stop trying to tell us true British what we should think about the sponsored invasion of our country (I’m assuming you’re an immigrant from the way you constantly kvetch on here).

          • Angharad

            ‘Fuck off back to wherever you come from’.

            As the thickos debate has reached its intellectual peak so soon I see.

          • Bob339

            She is clearly a non-white. Welsh I guess.

      • CortexUK

        So when white people are racist it’s white people’s fault, and when black people are racist it’s white people’s fault?

        Gotcha.

        • Whitey McPrivilege

          The ‘waycism’ racket is a tool used by the enemies of the White race to prevent them pursuing their own group interests. You should remember it’s a Communist silencing tactic, not a real thing. All aspects of normal White existence must be pathologised.

        • bramhall

          Now you understand!

    • Sten vs Bren

      H-h-h-halfcock’s Hand Hour.

      • Jim

        An intelligent response if ever I saw one.

        • Sten vs Bren

          Well, you shouldn’t use that great hero’s image for your old sh*t.

          • Jim

            Go away you absolute penis.

          • Sten vs Bren

            Aiming high. 🙂

          • Angharad

            I agree he’s an absolute penis but he has as much right to post here as anyone does.

          • Jim

            Yes he has.
            The Spectator has suffered as a result of all the trolls though, which is a shame, but not something I will lose sleep over.

          • Dan O’Connor

            I want him and all Lefty luvies to stay, because they and their debate-o-phobia one liner sneering comments make us
            ” far right wingers ” look like paragons of reason and logic .

          • Sten vs Bren

            You are the fringe of the fringe. Nobody gives a toss about colour any more. You are a refugee from the 1960s.

          • Dan O’Connor

            First you create an entire industry of moral torch mobs, media with hunts , indoctrination centres called universities, selectively enforced anti speech laws, public show trials and purges and prosecutions to prop up the Great Lie, and to create an atomspher of fear about speaking one’s mind and to attack the racial centres of their minds , and then you tell us that everybody just came to the conclusion by independent thought that they don’t give a toss about watching their lands , heritage and social capital being given away to third world alien hordes .
            I am part of the majority of Whites that tell pollsters that they want mass ethnic replacement and Africanisation / Islamisation of their homelands stopped
            Le Pen’s NF ; UKIP ; Gert Wilder’s PPV , the Swedish Democrats , the Danish Peoples Party , the massive support for Donald Trump’s closed border policies is not a fringe of a fringe , you sophists

          • Sten vs Bren

            These are all foreign arseholes, apart from UKIP and UKIP do not oppose immigration.

            You are the fringe of Trump and that’s no fringe to be.

          • Kennybhoy

            Then why not just fuck off to the Continent where you belong Nazi? You and yours have no chance in this country. Never did. Never will.

          • Damaris Tighe

            Hello Perky.

          • Damaris Tighe

            Hello Pinky.

          • Sten vs Bren

            Hello Topo Gigio.

        • Dan O’Connor

          They all laughed when Sten vs Bren said he would become the Lefty comedian of Spectator Blogs, but they are not laughing now .

          • Sten vs Bren

            Bob Monkhouse RIP.

            It’s the way HE told them.

          • Dan O’Connor

            Now I believe you were not lying about your age .
            There is only one thing worse than being a young idiot and that’s being an old idiot . Shame on you

          • Sten vs Bren

            Up yours, Irish British Nationalist. Go and loathe yourself in private.

  • Dan O’Connor

    It’s about time you ” far right wing racists ” faced the truth, that a 100 % White
    ( European ) society could not possibly work .
    It would be an economic failure, technologically backwards, culturally impoverished and plagued by racism.
    All Left / Liberal Progressive ” anti-racists ” being far more educated than you
    ” far right wing racists ” know this , so they support massive replacement level third world immigration because they love White people so much that they want to help Whites create less tribalised , far more socially cohesive , safe, low crime, high trust, advanced and high I.Q. societies by importing unlimited amounts of Africans , Musliums , Arabs , Metizos and Asians
    You know it makes sense .

    • Angharad

      That’s more like it Dan.

      • Dan O’Connor

        Apart from being oblivious to reason , common sense , wisdom and logic , you appear to have an immunity to irony as well
        With all those immunities , have you ever thought of becoming a super hero ?

        • Angharad

          Au contraire, oh great thinker of the Spectator boards.

          Hoisted with your own petard.

        • Johnny Foreigner

          She’s never been the same since the first series of Poldark finished in 1977.

          • Angharad

            🙂 that’s quite amusing, I’ll give you that.

    • Johnny Foreigner

      Your talking Nirvana, I nearly wet myself after reading, ‘socially cohesive’.

      • Dan O’Connor

        The institutions of the West have become raving loony bins where highly educated people , who believe they are the cleverest who have ever lived, actually believe in the absurdities I have demonstrated above.
        Some say there must be something in the crisps .

        • Johnny Foreigner

          It all went down hill, when Smiths removed the little blue sachet of salt, never been the same since. We now live in the era of Pringles.

          • Dan O’Connor

            That was just the first stage of the Left’s war against the White working class salt of the earth.

          • Johnny Foreigner

            I should also mention, that Pringles are the Liberals preferred snacking item. So as not to be accused of spudism, they have just the right Libtard mix, as they only contain 50% potato, the other 50% is a veritable rainbow nation of processed adulterated confection, a reflection of today’s society prehaps.

          • Dan O’Connor

            ” Pringles ” ?

            Sounds like a right wing insulting term to describe luvy duvy bleeding heart Liberals. ” You effing pringle you ” !

            ” processed unadulterated confection ”

            Absolutely disgusting . That’s them alright

    • Bob339

      Wanker

      • Sten vs Bren

        Eh? He’s one of your mob.

      • Dan O’Connor

        It was meant as a sarcastic piss take of the Left anti-Whites

        • Kennybhoy

          The likes of Bob are your future White Aryan storm troopers Maister O’C! Good luck with them! 🙂

          Thanks for the laugh ya pair o’ loons, it was getting depressing around here! 🙂

          • Dan O’Connor

            Hope you get mugged by diversity. Couldn’t happen to an nicer anti-White smirking sneering racist-

        • Bob339

          I apologize and have edited it.

      • Kennybhoy

        Thick as well as racist! lol! 🙂

  • Kennybhoy

    Good article Maister Sewell. The very best of luck with your efforts sir.

  • Cobbett

    The view from America

    ”It is curious that blacks, the least educated thirteen percent of the population, the least productive, most criminal, and most dependent on governmental charity, should dominate national politics. Yet they do. Virtually everything revolves around what blacks want, demand, do, or can’t do. Their power seems without limit.

    Courses of instruction in the schools, academic rigor, codes of dress, rules regarding unceasing obscenity, all must be set to suit them, as must be examinations for promotion in fire departments, the military, and police forces. Blacks must be admitted to universities for which they are not remotely qualified, where departments of Black Studies must be established to please them. Corporate work forces, federal departments, and elite high-schools must be judged not on whether they perform their functions but on whether they have the right number of blacks”

    Fred Reed

    They’re the same wherever they are….best to have nothing to do with them.

  • jeffersonian

    I believe in the power of the individual to rise above his or her circumstances to go wherever fate and initiative would take them. But I would lie if I didn’t admit to incredulity that so many young black Britons are so easily swayed by the stupidest of influences. Quite literally.

  • Zhang Wei

    Whites who cannot tolerate non whites should be sent to a deserted island and blown up with nukes….problem solved

    • DennisMcScumbag

      What about just letting them set up their own communities and nations separate from the multi culti hell holes being created in the former European countries. They won’t bother you if you don’t bother them and no accusations of white privilege/racism can be levied.

      Sounds fair, unless you’re authoritarian ?

      • Zhang Wei

        Id rather have you blown up, not for personal reasons you must understand but for the advancement of the species.

        • jim

          Perhaps we’ll get you first?

        • Bob339

          Oh dear! Why not sent to China?

      • Angharad

        Who’s says they’re ‘multi cult hell holes’?
        You?

        Many of us are very happy living in a muti-cultural society so leave us be.

        Sounds fair, unless you’re authoritarian?

        • Bonkim

          I have yet to understand what multicultural society means – disparate groups living in voluntary apartheid?

          • Kennybhoy

            Aye. 🙁

          • Angharad

            Er no. You can of course practice voluntary apartheid as its a free country.

            I find society works better when we mingle.

          • Bonkim

            Why should I mingle with people I don’t like/don’t care much for?

          • red2black

            Everyone does that to a certain extent.
            Take my mother-in-law… please…

          • Bonkim

            Some people have excellent Monthers in Law.

          • Angharad

            No one is saying you should; as I pointed out, this is a free country.

      • Bonkim

        Agreed – get a UN resolution.

    • Dan O’Connor

      See you next year here at same time Zhangy old chap .

    • Johnny Foreigner

      It’s the intolerant faux intolerant I can’t tolerate, when are you leaving by the way? You know for the island?

    • Bob339

      Oh Dear! Then who will cure illness, write literature.. etc.? Surely not WOGS?

      • Bonkim

        They are better at it given the failure of present day Western society.

    • Bonkim

      Too many Chinese and Indians on earth destroying resources and spreading pollution.

    • Kennybhoy

      And what should we do with non whites who cannot tolerate whites?

      • Bonkim

        Ship them to the Chinese livestock market.

    • sidor

      Shall I remind you some historical examples of ethnic intolerance in China?

      • Bonkim

        what about present day examples?

        • sidor

          Which ones? Again the boring crap about Dalai Lama?

    • Bonkim

      What a waste? the Chinese eat anything that crawls, walks, runs or flies.

  • Dan O’Connor

    The future has happened yet, but it has checked in at reception. Mr Lefty Liberal is going to go into shock when we reach the required demographic critical mass and the future decídes to go into a sprint and the whole of hell breaks lose
    Suddenly , just like after the fall of Communism and the fall of the Berlin Wall , tens of millions of Western Lefties will just deny all responsibilty, shrug innocently ,
    say ” nuffink to do wiv me , guv ” and claiming they never really believed what they believed and slowly saunter away whistling with their hands in their pockets , and then scarper around the nearest corner and run like hell
    The reason that being a Liberal ” anti-racist ” has become so popular in the West is that you don’t have to actually make any personal sacrifices or do anything to be one . It is the cheapest form of virtue one can buy in the West today. All you have to do is be ” a liberal ” and continue partying .
    Being a White person who believes that reducing ourselves into dwindling minorties amid a sea of third world alien peoples is so fraught with so many obvious and predictable perils and horrors for centuries to come ..makes us the most evil people imaginable who must be suffering from some for of mental abnormality , and just to top it off ..it also makes us enemies of the state , because we are a members of the lucky few , who still posses a moral conscience .
    We are the hated Cassandras , the hated messangers of our time.

  • Zabazius

    It’s a shame this kind of thoughtful piece gets such aggressive responses

    • ajcb

      It is a wonderful piece, and brave. The author’s initiative — Generating Genius — looks spectacular as well, and everyone should wish him every possible success and support it (glad to see many prominent commercial sponsors already). The dangers the piece illuminates, including a generation turning its back on civilisation and the standard of living that it affords, have large repercussions, hence the fear and the intensity of the comments.

    • Johnny Foreigner

      What?

    • Dan O’Connor

      The Western globalist elite and ther little Lefty helpers have spent the last 50 years waging a relentless, mean, wicked , cynical and sociopathic campaign of demographic vandalism against their own historical peoples and they have become the greatest existential threat that European man has ever had to face–.and you complain to us about comments that offend your delicate , touchy feelies .
      What a nerve ! ,

      • Bonkim

        All tribes get extinct sooner or later – life cycle theory.

        • Dan O’Connor

          With catastophic results . Hope you become one of its victims.

          • Bonkim

            I don’t belong to any tribe – looking down at mere mortals arguing about things they don’t comprehend.

          • Dan O’Connor

            Don’t worry , you may not be thinking about race . but race is thinking about you.
            Do you think Left Liberals will be excluded from being classified and lumped together as being guilty of ” Whiteness ” by immigrants and not discriminated against when immigrants become the dominant majority .
            What will Left Liberals do — run around with hats with big flashing neon signs ” Love me –I’m one of the nice guy White LIberal anti-racist , please don’t hurt me ” ?
            Are you so naive that you believe our new replacements will build statues and monuments and sing eulogies of praise and rememberance to the Left ” anti-racist ” usefull idiots of the cheap labour import bankers and corporations to handed over our lands , heritage , social capital and identities to them ?
            Not one single multi-cult-racial social engineering project has ever succeeded without needing the entire force of the state to prop it up , because bad, abnormal , unnatural ideas always need propping up. . But just one more go at it , and you’ll get it right next time ..right ?
            The term ” racist ” will be replaced in tghe future by a hysterical laugh , followed by ” What a bunch of idiots and whimps , you did it to yourselves ” Hahhahhhaaa

    • Kennybhoy

      Aye. 🙁

  • CortexUK

    How to help black boys afraid of ‘acting white’

    Stage 1: teach them to stop being racist.

    • Bob339

      There are 2 kinds of people: racists and liars.

      • Sten vs Bren

        Or both or neither. Which are you?

  • Zabazius

    Yes. Agree. It’s a sensitive issue and a challenging one: even poor white boys of my vintage weren’t supposed to get Shakespeare, either. I wish him success.

    • Bonkim

      Parental aspirations. Regards Caribbean youngsters single parents are poor role models and success depends on aspirations, and ability to adapt and change.

  • sidor

    We have to clearly discriminate two separate issues: racial distinctions and ethnic (or cultural, or religious) distinctions. The conflicts related to the latter are ubiquitous, bloody and vicious, from Asia to Africa, to Balkans to Northern Ireland. I cannot recall a single racial military conflict in history.

    • Dan O’Connor

      I fail to understand the difference between using selectively targetted racial hatred laws , abortion, ” anti-racism ” , feminism, White guilt,and third world immigrants as a biological weapon to wipe out ethnicites such as Swedes , or wipe out the entire European race by de-Aryanising it.

      • sidor

        Avoid using meaningless terminology. Have you studied physical anthropology, or just read some fantasies of an Austrian dropout?

        • Bonkim

          Eugenics more likely.

          • Dan O’Connor

            Exactly . Third world mass immigration is the dysgenic project of the globalist and Left using immigrants as a biological weapon

          • sidor

            I know very few ideas more idiotic than eugenics. Anyone working with practical selection will tell you that.

          • Dan O’Connor

            You know eff all about eugenics apart from picking up the hand me down student faculty notion that its a bad thing . All human societies have either been eugenically progressing or dysgenically regressing for thousands of years
            You are another pseudo expert
            The Left was wild about eugenics in the 20’s and 30’s

          • sidor

            OK. You know nothing about genetics and selection. A small lecture. Look at dogs which were continuously selected. And compare them with wolves which were not. Dogs are physically crippled idiots as compared with wolves. Selection results in loosing qualities: you cannot produce qualities by selection. Darwin was wrong.

          • Dan O’Connor

            Please explain why people of European stock are the only race on the planet that is under a moral obligation to accept what no non Whites would accept ?

            In 2013 , over 200 reseachers in the field of genetics and racial differences , from over 100 institutions , met at the UCLA
            ( Univerity of California Los Angeles , to among other things, announce that it had been confirmed what Darwin has stated over 100 years ago –that North East Asians ( Chinese , Japanese , Koreans ) have a larger cranial brain capacity than Europeans and Europeans have a larger cranial brain capacity than Africans.
            For years your ilk have told the most ridiclous absurdity , that human neurological evolution went on permament vacation
            60, 000 years ago when the first human left Africa
            Even dog breds have vastly different temperaments
            But I fail to see why any of this explains why all Europeans are under a moral obligation to replace themselves with Africans and Muslins with estatic glee , and why only good things can come of this ?

          • sidor

            I explain: American politics is thoroughly idiotic. A result of democracy. The Americans who believe in Darwin’s theory are particularly idiotic. Including those interested in eugenics.

            Idiots represent a large majority of the mankind. Shall we discuss all the stupid things they say and do?

          • Dan O’Connor

            All 200 researchers from over 100 institutions are wrong , and you are right ? Is this what you mean
            I’ve had enough of your sneering chimpaneze antics
            Shove off .

          • sidor

            Science is undemocratic. It is not decided by opinion polls. It is quite common that majority is wrong. Relax about it. And pleas stop that crap about genetics which you know nothing about. Clowns are entertaining in a limited scale.

          • red2black

            The biggest isn’t necessarily the best. Neanderthals had bigger brains than any of us.

          • Kennybhoy

            “Darwin was wrong.”

            Jesus wept man! Have a care or you will bring down the wrath of the Evolutionists on us! It’s bad enough dealing with a Nazi infestation! 🙂

          • sidor

            Do you mean veterinarian professor Dawkins?

          • Kennybhoy

            ROTFLOL! 🙂

            Aww thank you for the lols! The below the line filth on this article was starting to get to me!

          • Mary Ann

            Depressing, isn’t it.

          • Dan O’Connor

            You’d be a Christian Creationist then I take it Kenny boy ?

          • sidor

            A Manichaean one

          • Bonkim

            and fashionable upper classes, Mr Hitler adopted it as national policy and you should read his book on nose classification – skin colour meant little for Mr Hitler – noses much more sophisticated indication man’s evolution.

        • Dan O’Connor

          Ok , so ethnic cleansing is ok with you as long as its the Left doing the ethnic cleansing and the victims are Whites ?

          • Mary Ann

            What are you talking about, who on the left is talking about killing white people or chucking them out of the country.

          • sidor

            Ask him what exactly he means by white. To have some fun.

          • Dan O’Connor

            Ill ask you to define ” Chinese ” just because I know you’ll duck , dive , evade and snigger all over the place.

          • sidor

            Anyone who can speak and write Chinese. Others they call barbarians.

          • Dan O’Connor

            By the way you double speak hypocrite . For the Left , the White race has been a very real and concrete construct when spoken of in negative terms , but suddenly becomes an optical illusion that does not exist when spoken of in positive terms

          • Mary Ann

            Interesting, that would make a vast portion of the population of the world English, ukip won’t like that.

          • sidor

            Don’t confuse warm with soft. UKIP talks about immigration laws, not about ethnography.

          • Bonkim

            or don’t know how to eat rice with chop-sticks. You need more dexterity for chopsticks than for knife and fork.

          • Bonkim

            Brainier and more hard working that you Dan.

          • Dan O’Connor

            ” White ” is a very real and concrete construct for the Left when Whites are spoken of in the negative, in terms of guilt and shame , but the White race ( ONLY ) becomes an optical illusion and meaningless social construct when Whites are spoken of positively

            Fixed it . Now you have your defintion

          • sidor

            OK. Medical conclusion confirmed. Dismissed.

          • Mary Ann

            Are, but how white do you have to be to be defined as white, half white, half black, three quarters white quarter asian, three quarters chinese quarter white, I have asked this question before today, but no one can give me an answer, Oh well.

          • Dan O’Connor

            Ok , so we have established that you are White British and that you believe that Chineseness , Africaness , Danishness , Icelandicness , Britishness , and Mexicaness are just meaningless social constructs, that anyone can be us or them, that everyone is an interchangable unit and that the vast majority of non-Whites on the planet have no sense of ethnic / racial indentity or practice in-group favourtism and the vast majority of non-Whites believe they are nothing more than sociological frauds and optical illusions
            You believe that we are heading towards one big future rainbow chocolate fluffy bunny rabbit multi-racial hugy love vest , once we get rid of the last remaining road block to this utopian brothehood of man –which is of course –
            ” a bunch of angry White racists. ”
            Gotcha !
            You appear to have no trouble deciding what White means , when you are bashing the White race.
            This is the On / Off switch your ilk have for the existence of race

          • Bonkim

            Indian Brahmins rate several rungs above common Whites like you Dan, are brainier and more capable at social organization and would put you under the untouchable category – even Herr Hitler had to concede to that.

          • Bonkim

            They used to sell a colour chart/refractometer to decide that. All those that fell below the given standard were shipped off.

          • Bonkim

            There are some whites whiter than other whites – personally I prefer boiled lobster pink. Some blacks and Asians are far more attracted to white than many whites – silly referring to groups of people by their skin colour – i suppose that is the easy way for those that have stunted brains

          • Mary Ann

            Now you really are stirring things up, you naughty boy.

          • Dan O’Connor

            The man who created the definitions of genocide for the UN , clearly stated that genocide normally goes through several stages and all those stages are not always enacted violently or by murder but can be achieved by bloodless means in the beginning . Not that you would give a crap , because you have made it clear what you think about White people. He had to define it more broadlly for reasons that are so obvious that even and anti-White like you could understand

        • Mary Ann

          The largest variation in the human genome occurs in Africa, that’s because us humans evolved there.

          • Dan O’Connor

            You know nothing about the human genome. You are another Lefty pseudo expert shyster on everything.

          • Mary Ann

            Of course you are such a clever person you know everything including what I know, wow.

          • Dan O’Connor

            Why the fekk should I sit here demeaning myself by begging some faceless anonymous person on a blog , who could be Black / Arab / Jewish or Mexican and posting from Bongoistan for the right of my native people to exist and have their own ancestral homeland and to someone like you who has made it clear that you have it in for Old Whitey ?
            It’s none of your buisness . Only a stark raving lunatic can’t fathom why someone would object to the demographic vandalism waged against us .

          • Mary Ann

            Oh dear, you really do have a problem, Hate to disappoint you, I’m white British, and what’s more, I don’t care if my great grand children are coffee coloured Buddists, as long as they are happy and healthy.

          • Bonkim

            Stuck in a time-warp.

          • Dan O’Connor

            ROTherham

          • Bonkim

            Think a little deeper – don’t keep repeating.

          • red2black

            Bongoistan?

          • John Robert

            Dan
            Your posts are appreciated – keep it up

          • sidor

            And?

      • Angharad

        ‘De-Aryanising’ 🙂

        Oooo Dan, you neo-nazi you.

        • Bonkim

          bloody fool if you ask me.

          • Bob339

            Anyone who asks you anything is, by definition, a bloody fool. You vulgar idiot.

          • Bonkim

            Depends on the question – where is the question you refer to?

        • Dan O’Connor

          So ethnic cleansing is ok by you as long as its the Left doing the ethnic cleansing. Oh, you Bolshevik you !

      • Bonkim

        Aryans have spread far wide and most Persians/Khurds/Afghans/South Asians have some Aryan blood.

        • Dan O’Connor

          The Frankfurt School Cult Marx Left have an obsession about wanting to wipe out Aryans

          • Bonkim

            To be a true racist you need to understand world history and ethnography – and Aryans were not the inhabitants of present day Europe. The Persians are more Aryan than say the Norse and Germans. British population is mongrel.

          • Dan O’Connor

            Oh for God sake give it a rest . That’s the Left argument again about the British not being recognised by the Left has having the 100 % racial purity demanded by the Left to qualify as a legitimate and authentic native peoples

            The Left have evolved a series of tailor made arguments to fit the unique and distinct histories of every White country ( but only White countries ) which they use to explain why all White people ( and ONLY White people ) are morally obligated to collaborate gleefully in their own dispossession and minoritisation
            On the other hand the same Left always complain about how horrific it is to be a minority . So why should we want to become one ?
            And while this is going on , the Left have spent years telling non-White immigrants that the White race is ” evil , ” the cause of all their failures and that a future pay back time would be absolutely morally justifiable.
            What could possibly go wrong ?
            You people are eiher deliberatly pretending to be thick

          • Bonkim

            It is all in the mind and you appear to be petty minded and have lost your confidence in what you are. You don’t become exclusive by pretending to be superior in comparison with others and having a victim mentality – but by having confidence in your own values and able to cope with reality.

        • sidor

          For heaven’s sake. Stop this unintelligible rubbish. Both of you.

          • Bonkim

            Ignore it, not for mental retards that don’t understand world history and ethnography.

    • Bonkim

      you mean distinguish between two separate issues ……….

  • Bonkim

    If you don’t adapt and change you perish. Nature is harsh and you will do no service to black or white working class immigrant kids if you don’t tell them to forget their ancestry and try to become British.

    • sidor

      Which exactly British? Welsh, English, Cornish, Scottish? The latter also have other historical distinctions.

      A story. A Hungarian immigrant in Belgium has got his Belgian passport and sits in a bar. A fight breaks out, police routinely separates the public: the Vallonians to one wall, the Flemish to another one. The guy asks the police: “And where should the Belgians go?”

      • Bonkim

        Applies to all – for integration, all need to forget whatever cultural baggage they have – and native or immigrant is a relative term – most people in any country have been immigrants at some stage of the country’s history.

        • sidor

          This is strongly non-British. An empire cannot be built that way. It sounds sound like a classical continental police state. Like France, where one minister said: after you moved here your ancestors are Galls. They are now having a lot of fun trying to assimilate Arabs.

          The English literature knows example of brilliant bilingual writers like Nabokov or Conrad who managed to keep both cultural identities in their books.

          • Bonkim

            You cannot force nature, equally nature has a way of integrating with time and creating a new species. Today’s Britons have few of the strengths of their ancestors a century or more back. Look at the so called White working class (I don’t like such terms) kids failing by every measure of development. Relative affluence and the Nanny-State have killed off enterprise and the drive to better oneself in all sections. Life is too easy with for the young supported by benefits and a plethora of equality and diversity legislation, stopping corporal punishment at schools and parents bribing children with material goodies rather than teaching sound manners and the ability to face diversity. The tough gets going when the going gets tough – the present generation is crap.

          • red2black

            I think you mean ‘the ability to face adversity’, but then again, perhaps not. (tee hee)

          • Bonkim

            face up to adversity or any new situation presented, tap into opportunities, think and act fast and not get bogged down in the past. In the old day such people would have been called wimps – straighten up and face the world as it is – don’t moan. Nature is harsh and the weak and moaners are eliminated one way or the others.

          • red2black

            I believe Kropotkin wrote Mutual Aid in part to counter Darwin. Cooperation is evident in Nature, as well as competition. This is a paradox; not a contradiction.

          • Bonkim

            Cooperation where resources are adequate and some chance of coexistence – existential conflicts for survival where resources are depleting and numbers too many for orderly competition. The situation unfurling with the boat people ramming the battlements of Europe – have you heard of the Biblical plague of locusts? That is mankind’s future.

          • red2black

            The Eighth Plague – one of ten intended to discredit the many Egyptian gods. This time, Nut, Osiris, and Set. Crops of wheat and rye, which had survived the Seventh Plague of Hail, were devoured by swarms of locusts.

          • sidor

            Try to read about Maxwell’s Demon. This might help with your ideological complications.

          • sidor

            You don’t need Kropotkin to comprehend that the Darwinian evolution mechanism (actually invented by Spencer) cannot work in reality. It is just Maxwell’s Demon in popular interpretation. The problem of Darwin and Spenser was that they were unaware of the Maxwell’s thermodynamics. Lack of education.

          • red2black

            I was talking about evidence of cooperation and competition in Nature.

          • sidor

            It is thoroughly idiotic to discuss the fundamental principles of physics in terms of cooperations. Perpetuum mobile (of both kinds) is forbidden. Full stop.

          • red2black

            If you think I’ve been discussing the fundamental principles of physics, I’ll take it as a compliment.
            Either that, or you’re taking the mickey.

          • sidor

            You (and Kropotkin) did. Though probably failed to notice it.

            Let me formulate the point in a rational way. Darwin (Spenser) claim that (whatever) evolution of a system can be driven by selective spontaneous extinction some of its elements. That is, the system can drive itself out of equilibrium.

            The Darwinists regularly demonstrate clear symptoms of mental retardation by repeating an absolutely meaningless statement: “survival of the fittest”.

          • red2black

            Elsewhere, Darwin uses ‘fitted’, which I take to mean ‘best adapted, or appropriate to, its environment’.
            The phrase ‘survival of the fittest’ has come to be associated with the Nazis and theories of Race.
            Why people look to Nature for some sort of explanation or justification for our existence and actions is a bit of a mystery to me.

          • sidor

            The phrase is meaningless. Fittest are those who survive. That is survival of those who survive. Tautology.

            Nazis were indeed that stupid as to repeat this unintelligible rubbish the real author of which was Spencer. But the founding fathers of the Darwin’s theory were Smith and Ricardo who tried to derive economic progress from the market competition. This imbecilic concept is still the foundation of economics.

          • red2black

            I had to look-up tautology, but I understand your linking of Spencer and Darwin to Smith and Ricardo, which is something new to me. I think a lot of people associate ‘survival of the fittest’ with ‘the law of the jungle’, ‘every man for himself’, and suchlike. I think people infuse the phrase with meaning, even though its meaninglessness is demonstrable. To be fair, I don’t think Darwin intended that his phrase, or any of his ideas, should be used as a basis for how people should live.

          • sidor

            In order to discuss this matter, we need a common ground, conceptually and terminologically. I am unable to discuss the humanitarian BS about whatever human relations and the “law of the jungle”. This is a low-class literature.

            The fundamental conceptual problem related to the Darwinian theory can be formulated as follows: can the phenomenon of evolution of life with increasing complexity be derived from the basic principles of physics? And, if it can, what particular principles? If it cannot, it represents an irreducible complementary fundamental principle.

            The relevance of this question is obvious. If a system can, by that funny Mickey-mouse mechanism described by Darwin and earlier Smith and Ricardo, drive itself out of equilibrium, this would pose a great puzzle for physics, questioning the foundations of thermodynamics. This problem was properly formulated by Maxwell as his Demon. Probably, poorly educated Darwin and Spencer have never read Maxwell.

          • red2black

            I’ve only an inkling of what you’re getting at.
            Physics was my worst subject at school, so I’m not your man. Even so, what you say is interesting, and something I can find out about in the meantime. Thanks for your replies.

          • Bonkim

            Complex words does not mean this idiot understands physics either.

          • red2black

            The meanings of complex words are usually understandable to someone of reasonable intelligence. Physics is something I know very little about, but I see from your comments that there’s disagreement between yourself and Sidor.

          • Bonkim

            You don’t need to understand physics or chemistry to understand evolution – based on cause and effect analysis and reviewing the history of life on earth, changes and death of old species, changes and arrival of new species in response to changing weather patterns and other factors, also fossil records showing the changes over the life of the earth.

          • red2black

            I agree with some of what you say. Sidor seems to be hinting at some sort of general principle that transcends the boundaries of separate disciplines like biology and economics.

          • Bonkim

            Ultimately all philosophies – that is what the ancients called sciences if all sorts – boil down to cause and effect analysis with information based on observations, experimentation, looking at historic records, even assumptions that have to proved or disproved by other means to justify the original hypotheses. Given that all philosophies require certain basic processes all can be linked one way or the other – it is a necessity to link them as parts of the whole are often looked at by separate philosophers and one has to then put the bigger picture together. Mathematics, Physics, chemistry, and biological sciences all have common strands and maths essential in all branches of science and technology, even history and social sciences where statistical methods are part of the process. Hence my reference to evolution by natural selection and the role of statistics over time.

          • red2black

            That sounds reasonable. Your disagreements with Sidor seem to have more to do with Religion and Atheism, which is something I really don’t want to enter in to. You do sound far more direct than Sidor, who seems somewhat elusive.

          • Bonkim

            somewhat confused and lacking in linking cause and effect.

          • red2black

            I did read a post somewhere a few years ago that claimed Darwin was interested in processes, rather than cause and effect. It did seem to reflect a disagreement between Religion and Atheism.

          • Bonkim

            Evolution – adaptation change – are processes taking over time. Fossil records are revealing as species change with time and changing climate and environment. Similar fossils found on all continents demonstrate not only evolution but also movements of tectonic plates that have moved the continents generated from the original land mass apart over the earth’s life and continuing to do so.

            Just ut of interest the human being as we know today are much taller and heavier than their counterparts just a few hundred years back. Not just diet but also lifestyles, environment, etc, all contributing to evolution and creating new genetic variations which over time will impact on future generations. Not just skin and eye colour but resistance to disease, even intellectual and physical capacity.

          • Bonkim

            All natural processes are probabilistic and evolution simply a probabilistic process where the mutants capable of surviving in sufficient numbers are then able to carry on the trait or species until the next probabilistic mutation. In fact Darwin’s theory was based on natural selection – a probabilistic process where the successful get an opportunity to pass on their traits and less successful die off.

            Physical and chemical laws are theoretically repeatable and have nothing to do with evolution excepting as they apply to the particular processes within natural organisms (biologic processes within the living organism); Physics or chemistry on their own don’t directly contribute to evolution.

            Maxwell was a theoretical scientist and dabbled in many sciences, and Darwin looked at nature, causes and effects and building on probabilistic theories. Science has progressed far since Darwin’s and Maxwell’s times and their contributions whilst ground breaking at the time have since been confirmed by exploration, experimentation, and more advanced analysis by others – Unless you accept religious faith (faith = belief and does not require any scientific proof) and that the universe as you see and all its many features, man and the animal/plant kingdom are divine creations and fixed in time – well don’t waste time discussing these issues. My Granny left it all to God and who are we mere humans to question God’s eternal wisdom?

          • sidor

            So, you seem to believe that Maxwell’s Demon can be real. Agreeing in that respect with the famous scientist Prof. Dawkins. Do you also believe in reality of Santa? What did your Granny say about it? Was she too a Darwinist?

          • Bonkim

            Don’t believe in Demons controlling the gate between the two chambers and isolating the warm and cold molecules – don’t believe in entropy being restored after works is done, don’t believe in God and his/her creation – believe in evolution of complex organisms from simple single cell bacteria. God and religion are bunk and civilization would not have progressed if God and demons were not kicked out of human thought over the last few centuries.

            Doubt if you understand physics, Laws of Thermodynamics, entropy or work – just waffle. Maxwell floated his demon following well established British sense of humour.

          • sidor

            It is an interesting observation that pagan believers commonly present themselves as atheists. Dawkins is an atheist. Newton, Leibniz, Maxwell, Einstein and Dirac believed in One Transcendental God. You too may share their belief after learning some physics. Start with Maxwell’s Demon.

          • Bonkim

            I don’t believe in a transcendental or any other incidental God. Will let Maxwell’s ghost sort out his demons. I don’t believe in ghosts and demons either. Entropy I believe.and that to reverse a process you need to put in lots more energy than you got out in the first place.

          • sidor

            Strange. You have just explained that you do believe in that crap in Darwin’s interpretation. Do you disagree with yourself?

          • Bonkim

            Darwin much more logical than Sidor!

          • sidor

            As a reciprocal compliment. From the remarkable scientific depth of your arguments I conclude that your real name is prof. Dawkins.

          • sidor

            Your discussing the history process is like medieval monk’s discussing the function of a Diesel engine. He would have spent years discussing details without being aware of Carnot theorem.

          • Bonkim

            The reversible Carnot cycle Sidor is quite different from the Otto or diesel cycles. Medieval Monks did not understand thermodynamics to the same extent as they did human nature and behaviour. Since we understand both thermodynamics and human behaviour better today than the hit and miss medieval monks – surely you have the brain power to link cause and effect – the fundamental of reasoning.

          • sidor

            Try to read again, slowly: I said Carnot theorem. Which applies to Diesel too. Look again in the textbook.

            The problem in your thinking that I tried to point out is wrong scale. You cannot discuss thermodynamics in terms of kinetics. The latter is complex, the former is simple. That is why your attempted theory is complicated and useless.

            Once again. What is the driving force of all the human conflicts in history? You can consider the Russian-Polish historical conflict. Or a similar eternal trouble in Balkans. Or the one we now see in the Middle East. All these conflicts continue for centuries and millennia.

            Here is a test question: why the Babylonians are presented as bad guys in the Bible, whereas the Persians are good guys and liberators? The former were genetically and culturally close relatives of the Jews, while the latter were totally unrelated.

          • Bonkim

            Goonk – utter tosh – you have no knowledge of Thermodynamics or history, and human behaviour.

          • sidor

            I like this. Try me. Start with thermodynamics. Eagerly waiting for free entertainment.

            Any progress with your homework on the Biblical History?

        • Angharad

          I certainly agree with the second part of your post.

          Native or immigrate certainly is a relative term.

  • Mel Profit

    Perhaps the more pressing question is to how to help white boys afraid of being white and, more, convinced that they are black.

  • Zhang Wei

    Thankyou various assorted vermin I appreciate the illuminating responses received in relation to my admittedly provocative, but necessary, comment.

  • UmUmUmUmUmUm

    A brave article. However personally, I have no sympathy with the afro-Caribbean youths thus described. How stupid, how pathetic to be unable to work hard, study, behave properly and strive for self improvement because you think it makes you seem white. What an appallingly negative and racist attitude. What a feeble excuse, what a cop out. It paints a picture of a depressingly nihilistic and dysfunctional sub-culture.

    • ArtieHarris

      The environment is hugely important. You would feel different if you lived in the same circumstances as them.

  • Copyright101

    We’re told black kids fear ‘acting white’. But at other times we’re told they suffer from Stereotype Threat which could be called fear of ‘acting black’.

    These two theories are are supposed to be wide ranging explanations for poor relative black educational attainment.

    The problem is they can’t both be true in general now can they.

    Though possibly some individuals may suffer from one or the other.

    • ArtieHarris

      “The problem is they can’t both be true in general now can they.”

      Yes, of course they can both be true.

      You can fear both black and white, and so opt for grey – if you get my drift.

  • grammarschoolman

    What about the white kids who want to ‘act black’? That’s a much bigger problem in our state schools.

  • Kojak

    Tony Sewell,

    Many thanks for your article which I read with interest. The differentiation between the aspiration of young west Indian boys and those from West Africa was well made and helps clarify the problems in a way many of the comments here don’t seem to be able to acknowledge.

    It is a shame that so many of these comments are of the “send em back” variety because what you have described is something we will all have to live with and deal with, and dreaming of the day when the last dark skinned person is waved goodbye to at Heathrow will not return the UK to some kind of Ealing comedy bliss which these commenters dream will resume.

    • Bonkim

      wishful thinking – but I am more worried about working class British children that don’t achieve their potential.

      Resources need to be applied to maximise returns – not worried about a few that fail due to not trying. Afro Caribbean society has serious identity and family structure problems and single mothers don’t make good role models. The male is seen to be useless and semi-criminal.

  • sarahsmith232

    suspect this sewell is part of the problem.
    what kind of messages are they getting at his org about ‘the white’? he’s obviously telling them it’s only proper and fitting that they should want to separate themselves. as their ‘the white’ is a racist, I mean, a person need only witness the rise of ukip for evidence of this. class solidarity is out of the question due ‘the white’s’ little Englander racism, so far better all round we stick with ‘other’ put upon, victimised and vulnerable groups like ‘the migrant’.
    he;s dealing in stereotypes, using his position to convince of these types of cartoons. hardly any wonder black kids are neurotic about being labelled white, they’ve every section of society going convicing them that would be weakly submitting to the racist repulsive victimising ‘other’.
    in all probability he need only look to himself if he wonders at the reason black kids are preprogrammed to avoid any association with whitrness

    • Angharad

      After reading your post I take it English isn’t your first language.

      I’m not quite sure of the point you’re trying to make.

      • sarahsmith232

        lovely, I;m caricaturing this sewell’s sort. the part about the rise of ukip was how it is that they see things, not me

        • Angharad

          I thought you might be taking the piss out of the article, just wanted to make sure.
          He’s definitely dealing in stereotype’s, very lazy of him

          • sarahsmith232

            agreed, agreed

      • Bonkim

        Google translation.

  • Angharad

    “This, I’m afraid, is typical.”

    Bullshit it is.

    The fundamental flaw with this article is the idea that your race is a parameter to getting on; this is simply not true.

    If you take out the colour of the children in question and instead look at it from the perspective of the economic demographic of the child the article makes a lot more sense.

    “Growing up in poverty is what’s make these children feel out of place at Oxbridge or want to be a footballer when they want to grow up; poverty is what makes reading look uncool.

    Trying to define the issue by race is inaccurate and creates more ‘them and us’ thinking which keeps us in a perpetual circle.

    • Liberanos

      Why is ‘acting white’ so bad? What’s wrong with being white?

      • sidor

        They are talking about cultural pattern, not about the colour. Whether the former is clearly defined is another matter.

        • Liberanos

          Absolutely. They’re abjuring the middle-class, well-educated, conformist norms of that part of society they categorize as ‘white’…whatever its colour.

      • Angharad

        Well done for totally missing the point of my post.

        • Liberanos

          Talking of which…

    • Damaris Tighe

      It’s very difficult to know whether it’s socio-economic factors at play or culture. Some minorities do well & others sink. The question is, which factor is causal? Or is there a complex interplay between the two? You said that my comment about Jamaican family culture was racist. But that wasn’t my intention. As I pointed out in my other post, people from other, more successful, WI communities often look down on Jamaican culture. Culture has a big impact on success.

      There has also been some research that shows that there’s a significantly higher incidence of schizophrenia amongst people of WI descent living in England than in the Caribbean. That might suggest that the way WI (Jamaican?) people have been integrated – or not – here is at fault. Again, clearly very complex. It’s as kneejerk to call ‘racist’ when this is discussed as it is to call ‘race’.

    • Bonkim

      Many a poor child rose up to great heights. Extra benefits to alleviate poverty will not raise levels.

    • ArtieHarris

      I think that Tony Sewell probably has enough experience to know what he is talking about.

      And I presume that he hasn’t spoken about white kids because his experience is mostly with black ones.

      Furthermore, skin colour does add a further dimension to the problem for black kids, that white kids do not have to deal with.

    • zoid

      erm….no offence meant but ‘b’llocks’…

      …i grew up on fee school meals and holes in the patches on my trousers…and i did ok…

      and it seems that you don’t want race to create a ‘them and us’, but are quite happy for class to serve in its place…

  • grammarschoolman

    ‘Too many initiatives aimed at under-performing boys pander to lowest-common-denominator interests: football, boxing or rap. We focus on Shakespeare, science and classical music.’

    Great to see that this black writer is admitting that black ‘culture’, in all its forms, is so vastly inferior to white culture, and that the only way for blacks to improve themselves is to embrace white culture. Perhaps he will go on to recognise why this is the case.

    The much more serious problem that needs to be addressed is that of white people demeaning themselves by rejecting white culture in favour of black ‘culture’. Sewell should tackle this next, as it will require a black person who reject black ‘culture’ to achieve.

  • right1_left1

    Bit late in the day but I was wondering if anything can be done to help white working class boys who dont want to act upper middle class.

  • Dan O’Connor

    We need to take a lesson from the long suffering experience of our American cousins on this issue. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over again, but expecting different results each time .

    http://www.amren.com/news/2015/08/i-dont-care-about-black-people

    • Bonkim

      Invite Donald Tump and he will sort out all your problems.

      • Dan O’Connor

        I doubt it . Trump is most certainly a ” proposition nation ” Libertarian and will never publicly voice the explict concernes of the founding European stock that built the USA
        America is finished as a proposition nation. In is unreformable through the political , media and academic institutions that have transformed it into a multi-racial hell hole of never ending racial tensions and conflict and institutionalised anti-White guilt cultism in the first place
        The USA will disintegrate and segregate into racial enclaves

        • Bonkim

          The English and Scots built North America and drove the Catholic Spanish out – it was the Anglo Saxon (Puritan) work ethic, hungry people and a vast land with infinite resources – the resources are running out and people have stopped being hungry – the hungry and enterprising from other parts of the world have moved in and for a while creating new toys for the affluent world. Wealth is not money in the bank but the ability create it continuously – and the engine is running out of steam – the emerging people of Asia and Latin America are still hungry and are doing the running but the earth is running out of resources – and there are too many people – white, black, yellow or mottled – sorry – lifecycle mankind is close to closing down.

  • Dan O’Connor

    Tens of millions of, poor, ragged, helpless third world immigrants are walking with their meager possessions and bundles on a fly blown desert road , and hundreds riding on the top of box cars . All are heading to the borders of the West, and just up ahead by the side of the road is a big sign with a big arrow, pointing and upon which is written ….

    ” Discrimination, marginalisation, White privilege and supremacism , xenophobia, hatred, Nazism , mass genocide and racism ……… 2000 miles this way ”

    Oh wow, I’m gonna’ get me some o’ that, yipee !

    A White middle / upper class luvy Lefty / Liberal’s wet dream of an endless supply of pets to exploit for the next 500 years , just so they can insatiate their insatiable bottomless pit greed of ego-glow ” anti-racist ” moral narccisism junky fix and have a well payed job in the multicult / diversity industry and afford to live as far away from diversity as they can get.

    • Bonkim

      Look up the Bible and the locusts descending on you.

      • Dan O’Connor

        ” Those whom the Gods wish to destroy , they first make mad ”

        Yes , nature does hit back with a terrible venegance as a punishment for becoming stupid.
        Nature is amoral . It doesn’t give a crap about the ” noble ” and the “good ”

        ” As surely as Water will Wet you
        As surely as Fire will Burn
        The Gods of the Copybook Headings
        With Slaughter and Terror return.

        An extract from –The Gods of the Copybook Headings , by Rudyard Kipling

        • Bonkim

          Kipling grew up in India and gained his insight to the real world from the ancient Indians.

  • Dan O’Connor

    In every single 24 hour period , as the sun rises over Vladivostok , travels across 30 White countries and goes down over Alaska , it can be safely estimated that about 20’000 White people in 100’s of groups , have met to discuss how they can help non-White people .
    But in everyone of those countries and in every non-White country, not one group of White or non-Whites meets to discuss how they can help White people . This would be ” racist ” and if you do it , it should be in secret because , if caught , you could end up having your career and livelihood destroyed and even be seriously physically harmed and end up in hospital after being attacked by state funded and morally legitimized thugs .
    Makes you think , doesn’t it ?

    • Bonkim

      A bit far fetched even for one with imagination, do pale faced Bwanas like to be patronised?

      • Dan O’Connor

        Really , and how could you possibly know how far fetched it is that White people meeting to discuss the explicit group interests of White people has not been fraught with risks and perils that White Left luvvies who meet to discuss how they can help non-Whites never have to worry about
        You are qualified to have an opinion on that matter, I am.

        • Bonkim

          Hello Dan, are you a defeatist? If you fee aggrieved what are you doing to change the situation?

          Social organisation is key to success of western societies over the past three centuries – the older civilizations that were on the ascendancy during Europe’s dark and middle ages are now seen as failed and failing. Everything in nature follow the life cycle theory – each society needs to be re-born every now and then to maintain vigour. Although I hate terms such as black and white allowing for your right to classify people according to your view what are you proposing to improve the social cohesion and creative strengths of ‘white’ people? People usually look up and copy the mehaviour of the better off in any society – how are you planning to make ‘white’ society superior and attractive for others to copy??

          • Dan O’Connor

            ” Social organisation is the key to success ”

            Yes , I agree 100 % .

            ” How are you planning to make ” White ” society attractive ”

            Erm…. ( cough-cough ) we already did . That’s why hundreds of millions of third world peoples who have failed to create safe, prosperous, high trust and advanced societies in their own homelands are stampeding here.

            But ok , putting that little observation aside, I know what you mean. It’s a very valid question. The stick is not enough . There also has to be the carrot . Something better worth striving for. A vision. There cannot be just endless whinging and lamenting on blog sites or futile little demonstrations, and don’t believe this has not occured to the Identitarian movement I speak for and represent.
            It has also become obvious that there is no solution through the electoral system that created the problem in the first place, which would save our people .
            It has to be a ground up cultural movement .
            That’s how the baby boomer 60’s Left won the war .
            They won the culture war first and then later took their long march through all of the West’s politcial , media and academic institutions
            The solution is for Whites to copy non-White immigrants and form their own supporting communities

            ” are you a defeatist ? ”

            No . I’m a healthy pessimist

            Optimism is = moral cowardice

          • Bonkim

            You have not really responded to the question – mere words – only the hungry will run to find food, and the affluent will perish. The achievement of Western civilization over the past 2 or 3 centuries was built on hungry people, infinite resources of the newly found lands and trigger of technological and social innovations arising from enterprise. Affluence destroys enterprise and full bellies go to sleep invent new toys to play with.rather than look long term. I must congratulate you in the final solution – ‘The solution is for Whites to copy non-White immigrants and form their own supporting communities’ but to repeat for that we all have to go back to square 1, and be poor again so that we have the motivation to run again. In the mean time the initiative rests on those that put their foot forward first – not simply reacting to crisis. You will have to bell the proverbial cat – How?

            Try not thinking black and white and wishing it was different – the world is as it is warts and all – and if you are a clever white, black, yellow, or shades of grey, will see how best to use the situation that exists today.

  • Minstrel Boy

    Had Europeans and Arabs not bothered to sail around the African coasts, conquer and enslave sections of the populace, I have it on good authority from a LSE Marxist professor that Africans would by now have conquered space, cured cancer, created a much superior internet and produced the next generation of post-nuclear weapons. Apparently, we robbed them.
    It appears that most people in Asia, Europe and America have just been stealing the technological secrets of African Genius for a very long time. They should be put on the naughty step and be required to give up their semi-detached houses to the first African migrant who makes it through their front door.
    This will re-dress centuries of misappropriation of all the really good inventions dreamed up in Africa. A book could be published listing these. Shouldn’t take long to read, so you don’t even have to ‘act white’ for long!

    • logdon

      And not forgetting the alien spaceship hovering around the world just awaiting the crack of doomsday when they will rescue black people only.

      We just can’t win, can we?

      • Minstrel Boy

        Muhammed Ali, formerly known as Cassius Marcellus Clay, used to promulgate such theories back in his more vociferous days. Part of the Black Muslim doctrine, I am told. He was an avid fan of racial segregation too, expounding volubly about not having sex with white women on account of it ‘mussin’ up his ‘beautiful black colour’. Not sure if he adhered firmly to such principles when tempted, but any mention nowadays of anything detracting from his saintly reputation gets immediately from media hagiographies. Same story with Nelson Mandela. White media scribblers do so love their kindly, old ‘Uncle Tom’ icons.

        • logdon

          That’s where I first heard of it and quite a while back.

          Back then it was acceptable to poke fun at such idiocy, now, as you say it is verboten.

          • Minstrel Boy

            He was quite open about his beliefs, as were all Black Muslim speakers. I recall him appearing on Parkinson back in the 1970’s and being extremely scathing, indeed racist, about white people, even portraying them as ‘Children of The Devil’. The British audience smiled nervously and moved swiftly on. Can’t imagine the fuss they would have made had a white Sporting Icon voiced the same about black people, but that’s the way white folks are….. nervous about upsetting powerful people.
            One guest tried to point out that Muhammed Ali’s grandfather was white. This triggered an extremely angry response, wherein Ali claimed his grandmother had been raped by a slave owner, who had given his name, Clay, to the offspring. That may have been true on the paternal side, but on the maternal side, his grandmother was the lawful wife of an Irish immigrant from County Clare, named O’Grady, and the couple were married after the American Civil War. Mr O’Grady was certainly no slave owner. Ali didn’t want that known, but he has since accepted reality and visited the home of his grandfather in Clare.
            When people want to play the ‘professional victim’ card, they rarely allow the facts to intrude upon their narrative, but it behoves the rest of us to know the truth and say it, no matter how ‘verboten’ the ‘reality definers’ try to make it.

  • Cecil Lion’s Aborted Fetus

    Barry was only a STATE senator in 2004. No one even heard of him yet, that’s why he could get away with talking like that.

  • ArtieHarris

    That was a really good piece. I learned a lot.

  • Alex Williamson

    It’s funny how black youths associate intelligence, diligence and achievement with being white. If a white man said that they’d call him a racist.

  • MikeF

    No – this is the United Kingdom so people who live here irrespective of the colour of their skin should ‘Act British’.

    • Dan O’Connor

      Nationhood, Peoplehood, the Extended family, the family writ large, is something that evolves organically over a long period of time. It is the most precious social capital a nation can have.
      Nationhood is rooted in the sum total of the bonds of a shared ancestry, history, kinship, language, legends, heroes, mythology, custom, literature, arts and song. It is the unwritten contract between all those of our ancestors who came before us, those now living and all of those of our kindred yet to be born .
      Only we can be us. It is having a shared past that makes us human, We ARE our shared past. A nation , a culture, civilization, and ethnic group and race, can come together to survive all kinds of hardships and catastophies, –wars ,occupation, pestilence, and economic collapse , but there is one thing no peoples can survive , and that is being replaced. Ethnic / racial extinction level mass immigration is not a social or economic policy. Social policies can be reversed . Becoming a disempowered, balkanised, electoral minority of ever dwindling numbers and influence and whose fate and destiny will lay at the whim and mercy of Africans, Mexicans, Arabs , Muslims and Asians , who vote and organise along racial / tribal lines to look out for their own group’s explict interests , is putting two fingers up at the Gods and daring them to destroy us.
      The can, they did , and they will.

      • kitten

        How many accounts do you have on here you fascist nutoid?

  • When you have lower expectations, you get them.

  • zoid

    i can’t stand articles like this….not because it deals with race or anything else…

    ..but because it contains the line ‘at my charidee generating genius’….

    i’m surprised that there wasn’t a hyperlink to their ‘donate here’ page….

    …..a thinly veiled advert…..

    and i have to ask mr.sewell the pertinent question as to how he would regard it had someone set up a charidee for white working class boys only?…

  • MrJones

    “Among poor black school-age children, particularly boys, anxiety about being seen to be acting white is a huge barrier to getting on.”

    One major reason for this is the clear and present danger of being physically attacked by the gang culture the BBC has lied about for 40 years.

    Time will tell if the gang culture holds the African kids back or not. If it doesn’t they will self-segregate to make it easier for the next generation.

    A better solution – or at least a start to a solution – would be for the BBC to stop covering up the problem.

  • DaHitman

    Basically they want to act in a way that keeps them back as no other community has this problem and lets not forget they do the same everywhere else

  • Tway

    It’s fun to mentally dress immigrants in national costume or ancient military uniform.

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