Rod Liddle

I’m off to join Islamic State. See ya, kafirs!

There’s plenty I can find to do out there, and if I don’t like it I’ll just come back

18 July 2015

9:00 AM

18 July 2015

9:00 AM

I am getting heartily sick of being subjected to low-level racist and Islamophobic abuse whenever I go out wearing my black Islamic State flag. It is a very beautiful flag, symbolic of freedom and love and bears the legend: ‘There is no God but Allah and Muhammed is His Messenger’, which I hand-painted in Arabic script. (On the other side it says: ‘Nothing to do with Islam’, just so as I can hedge my bets a bit.) Anyway, walking around London with it I can report that several people looked at me funny. That’s Islamophobia for you. Also, one fairly obese man shouted, ‘Fuck off to Syria, you wanker.’ That’s racist abuse, end of. I stopped a policeman to tell him about these incidents but by now the perpetrators were a very great distance away and avoided capture. The policeman admired my flag, I think. He did not tell me to take it off, at any rate.

Very often in the past people wearing a flag bearing the cross of St George, or the Union Jack, have been rightly told to desist by your police and even arrested — because those are flags of colonial oppression and imperialism and are intrinsically hurtful to Muslims like myself. We are a vulnerable community and find the waving of the Union Jack both threatening and irritating. But nobody could possibly object to my flag because it is a flag of liberation. Admittedly, sometimes the liberation of a person’s head from the rest of his body, but liberation all the same. Anyway, I found the stares I got and the occasional unpleasant comments discomfiting.

You kafirs think you are terribly tolerant, but let me tell you — walking around with my flag a few days after our brother had carried out Allah’s will on a Tunisian beach, I felt horribly excluded from British society as a consequence of those stares. It does not help that last year your Prime Minister, David Cameron, suggested that people wearing or waving my flag should be arrested. Luckily the police have taken not the slightest bit of notice of this bad man. It is just the British flag which can get you arrested.


I was so disquieted by my experience, in fact, that I have decided to emigrate. I have considered moving to the Islamic State (Which Is Nothing To Do With Islam), and that may be an option. However, the Saudi Arabians are advertising for head-choppers to behead people who have transgressed in some way in Riyadh and Jeddah — the Saudis are also nothing to do with Islam, of course— and that seems to me an agree-able occupation for someone with my sort of deranged religious psychosis. I just hope that there is the prospect of career advancement, as I do not want to spend the rest of my life just hacking away with a scimitar. I suspect it would become boring after a while.

Anyway, the Saudis-who-are-nothing-to-do-with-Islam-either are taking on 12 executioners, because the transgressors are apparently piling up in the cells, so I reckon I stand a good chance, Inshallah. Or I could try Sudan where they’re about to chop the head off some Christians — again, nothing to do with Islam. Or Pakistan, where the authorities will soon be doing likewise to cockroach Christian blasphemers. Indeed, across the Entire Islamic World (Which Is Nothing To Do With Islam), there are a multitude of job opportunities working for the governments persecuting women, homosexuals, Christians, Jews, non-believers and adulterers — some of it involving a bit of judicious head-chopping, or hanging, or shooting, otherwise some spirited whipping. Or just arrests.

So lots of opportunity. I will bide my time and mull things over — I want to make sure I’m making the right choice. However, no matter where I decide to go, I require a cast-iron guarantee that I will be allowed back into the United Kingdom if life abroad is not quite as clement and uplifting as I anticipate. And have the right to resume wandering around with my black flag and with an option to blow myself up in a public place when and if the mood takes me. If that’s ok with you, kafir.

I am of course not alone in wanting to get out. According to that man who runs your imperialistic education auditing body, Of-sted, Muslim pupils are disappearing at an alarming rate from school rolls in both Birmingham and the Holy Caliphate of Tower Hamlets (Peace Be Upon It). Sir Michael Wilshaw is apparently puzzled as to why this might be. One minute the kids are there — suitably veiled if they are female, obviously — the next they are gone. Of 1,000 kids monitored, 350 have disappeared entirely and their whereabouts is a complete mystery. Sir Michael says the schools were told stuff like they had ‘moved abroad’ or ‘gone back to Libya’. Sir Michael even fears that many of them may have fallen prey to an ‘extremist ideology’, although he doesn’t spell out precisely what that ideology might be. Hmmm. I wonder what it is, Mikey. It’s a real poser, isn’t it?

If I do decide to emigrate I shall take with me fond memories of the United Kingdom and its endless, fathomless capacity for self-delusion. There really is no country in the world that does it better. I suppose it starts from the bizarre doublethink of multiculturalism — that people should be allowed to indulge in their own cultures and God forbid anyone mention ‘integration’, but that all cultures are essentially as liberal and democratic as your own and committed to the same goals and aspirations. That’s not really true, is it? And then, later, we get told that some bits of our culture — such as female genital mutilation, enforced marriages, persecuting or ostracising homosexuals and non-believers oh and so much else — are not actually part of our culture at all. We’ve got it all wrong! I suppose that’s less self-delusion than expediency and arrogance. But either way, thank you. It’s an endearing trait. And so long — missing you already, mwah.

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  • James R

    Should you decide to return Rod,I’d be grateful if you could bring me a few cartons of Rothmans (originals).Remember not to bring in too many as the authorities take a pretty dim view of that kind of thing and you could end up in the slammer.
    May your Rod go with you..

  • cartimandua

    Sadly all very true. Anyone see escape from ISIS? Some Yasidi men are risking their lives helping captives escape. The description of rape victims experiences was utterly
    dreadful.
    Islam does not produce moral beings as we understand that. Multiculturalists just don’t get it.
    Every hjjabi in the UK is “just fine” with crowds of ISIS men raping women and girls as young as 9.
    Otherwise they would put that vile cloth in the bin.

    • Jay Igaboo

      Oh f*ck, I just knew that this old FemiNazi loon would go off on one of her “it’s all men’s fault, the b8stards. The Feminists who, with other PC groups like homosexuals, united in joint cause with the multi-kulti sheep, but now they are sh/tting blue bricks at the thought of what they got into bed with.
      And who will they turn to defend them against Muslim rape and oppression when, if the demographic trend of a low White birth rate that FemiNazi such as Carti facilitated with their abortion activism continues– the Lambeth Lesbian Self-Defence Collective– or MEN?

      For the first time ever that I can recall, Carti grudgingly in passing gives some credit to men, the Yazidi risking their lives to protect their women, so maybe she is moving ever -so-slightly away from her hatred of all men.

      Or maybe she’s realised that she’ll need to be a bit more wily in order to use men for her defence.

      BTW, Some feminists are not content to do get into bed metaphorically,

      There are Islamic feminists on social media who think that ” wimmin” should have equal throat-slitting, beheading and burning alive executioner privileges as men, as evidenced by jihadi brides traipsing half way round the world for a bit of Islamic rough.
      As for the hijab and women in tents, that is often the woman’s choice, because they’re as brainwashed as their male relatives.

      http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/ill-first-female-executioner-briton-4081514

      • cartimandua

        It wasn’t grudging. Those Yasidi men who rescue deserve every praise.
        And as to ISIS. They are not human they are vermin.
        Muslim customs like gender apartheid and Ramadan create more low IQ and psychopathic people.
        Its about poor nutritional status of Mothers and lack of vit D and exercise.
        People raised from infancy to self disgust and subjugation don’t make real “choices”.

        • Yorkieeye

          Don’t forget the gene menace. Fucking the cousins causes big problems.

        • Jay Igaboo

          Concorde on your first two points -quelle surprise!
          Low IQ and other handicaps generally caused by Muz interbreeding, and if mum’s nutritional status is poor, so is dad and the kids likely to be.
          I was born post-war when rationing was at it’s worse, and I was a skinny little 5lb runt when I was born due to mum being a bit mal-nurtured. It wasn’t a gender thing(she got extra rations when she was pregnant it was the state of the nation. When I was a strong and healthy teenager in the Army, read a newspaper article c. ’66-70 that reported that examination of data on 11-year-olds showed that they were taller than 11-year-olds in 1960, because they were better nourished, as was mum when “eating for two”.

          • cartimandua

            Birth weight is related to the nutritional status of ones maternal Grandmother (when eggs are formed). In cultures where women eat last if at all, are married as children, and then push out sick infant after sick infant……
            The Dutch after WW2 famine noticed a large rise in psychopathy. It was foetal brain damage.
            We have the science to improve peoples mental and physical health.
            But they need to as it were stop doing what causes the damage in the first place.

          • Jay Igaboo

            I have no knowledge re the effects of nutritional status of maternal grandmother, but common sense seems to point to nutritional condition of the mother being much more important?

          • Jeffrey Vernon

            Women are born with all the eggs they will ever have, already formed in their ovaries; if the children formed from these eggs are to be healthy, then their grandmother should have good nutrition while she is incubating their mother as a foetus. That’s the theory, but children in the west are taller and heavier and live longer than their grandparents, so it’s not clear how reliable it is.

          • Jay Igaboo

            Thanks–the fact that a female child is born with her lifelong supply of eggs is a real surprise to me. I find it rather amazing, and in some way wonderful.
            I still think that malnutrition in a gestating mother must surely cause problems for the child? The only reason in can think of the child not being mal-nurtured at live birth is that possibly the mother’s condition triggers a natural abortion?
            As your last sentence indicates, you also have doubts that theory matches reality.

          • Jeffrey Vernon

            You’re right, it is amazing: men make new sperm all their lives, but women have to preserve their eggs for 50 years or so (some female insects are born pregnant – they self-fertilise in the uterus). Nutritional status of mothers certainly can affect behaviour and physiology: babies born during the Dutch famine had a greater tendency to adult obesity, and there’s some evidence that their feeding behaviour changed because starvation switched some of their genes ‘off’ and they produced fewer hormones.

          • Jay Igaboo

            The natural world never ceases to fascinate me, thanks.
            In passing, we had the family cat dressed after she’d had umpteen litters (all homed) when I found out that cats male OR female, are fertile unto death.
            She was seven then, so I reckoned she’d guaranteed her genetic succession!

      • Yorkieeye

        Don’t confuse feminism with leftie shit. I’m a right wing feminist and have long been open mouthed in amazement at Harperson and her ilk on the left who positively grovel to old Asian men and screw the women. It’s the men wot deliver the votes you know. Long live postal voting!

        • The Bogle

          Julie Bindel, herself a feminist, wrote in Standpoint about how some feminists won’t condemn FGM because it is a cultural affair. Doubtless, they were afraid of being considered racists. Ms Bindel had wanted to speak out against the practice at a gathering at the University of London but she was banned from doing so.

          • Sue Smith

            The key word in this paragraph is “afraid”.

          • The Bogle

            Yes, and with fear goes control.

          • Jeffrey Vernon

            What’s more, she was banned on the most contrived grounds: transphobia and biphobia. JB committed the original sin 10 years ago of writing that men cannot become women, hardly a controversial view even now.

          • The Bogle

            A feeble excuse by the organisers to ban her and proof that some of our universities, e.g. UCL, are not places for students to exercise freedom of thought but to have their thinking controlled.

          • Jeffrey Vernon

            In Bindel’s case it was Queen Mary College, and I think it was the student society that no-platformed her rather than the university itself.

        • Jay Igaboo

          I don’t confuse right-wing feminism with “leftie shit”.
          They are two different kinds of shit, that’s all. If I step on a shit on the street, it doesn’t exercise me wondering if it’s dog or cat shit, they both stink and are better avoided.

        • Fred Yang

          Does not compute, Yorkieeye
          Feminism = Statism

          • Yorkieeye

            Not really.

          • Fred Yang

            the only Feminist
            who doesn’t look to
            the State for solutions,
            I apologise.

          • Jay Igaboo

            Maybe right-wing feminism is just grab-all -you-can from milking being a woman and f*ck everything else?

      • Maureen Fisher

        Tbh she doesn’t sound like she’s endorsing any of it unlike her pals at the Groaniad.

        • Jay Igaboo

          Well she says “I’m a right wing feminist(sic) which seems like an endorsement of right-wind feminism to me.
          Every so often feminism re-labels itself, the way that various tired-out or concepts and commodities do when they have been rumbled.
          It’s like washing powder– miracle Sudso is launched amidst ballyhoo, smoke and mirrors, and when the dumb public eventually see that it’s not at all miraculous, we then get “NEW MIRACLE SUDSO!. New miraculous Sudso has had some new, even more “miraculous” additive to it to keep the publicity scam going, but it’s still crap.

    • Jeffrey Vernon

      ISIS men – crowds of them in the UK – raping 9 year olds?

      • cartimandua

        Certainly raping 9 year olds in ISIS land. Over here the Muslim gangs which may have raped up to 1 million victims over 25 years did attack very young girls. The youngest I think so far was 11 (Oxford trial)

        • Jeffrey Vernon

          1 million victims?

          The Rotherham gang (five men were jailed) had an average age of 25

          • Von

            Average age of 25 NOW.

            http://s.telegraph.co.uk/graphics/projects/rotherham/index.html

            When Sarah Wilson was 11 years old, a 30-year-old man raped her in the school playground at night.

            By the age of 12, she was forced to have sex with them

            http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-28949188

            One victim, who had been groomed from the age of 12 and was raped for the first time when she was 13, told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme her harrowing story.

            She says she was raped “once a week, every week” until she was 15, that police “lost” clothing she had given to them as evidence and that she had feared for her family’s safety.

          • Jeffrey Vernon

            I meant that the five Rotherham men who were jailed had an average age of 25. They cannot (as suggested in the press, apparently on the basis of police/social worker briefings) have been raping girls in taxis for 25 years.

          • James Lovelace

            The 5 Rotherham men are the tip of the iceberg. Barnardos’ had set up a project (with statutory funding) in Bradford in 1995, given money to mop up the damage caused be grooming gangs there. What was going on in Bradford was the basis for C4’s 2004 documentary, which West Yorks Police & the UAF worked on getting banned. Sadly, the BNP were telling the truth back in 2004, but were easily ignored because of their racism. Nick Griffin was put on trial by the state twice in 2006 for telling the truth – in both cases, the jury refused to convict him.

            The earliest contemporaneous news reporting of the grooming gangs was in Wolverhampton in 1988. In recent years, retired police officers have said these muslim gangs were operating in Lancashire in the 1970s.

            So, yes, 1 million victims is credible.

          • Jeffrey Vernon

            Sara Swann came up with the ‘boyfriend model’ of grooming after setting up the Bradford project. They met 270 girls being paid for sex, but it was Anna Hall in 2003 who claimed there had been a ‘pattern’ of asian abusers. Sara Swann these days has become part of the problem, I think: here is a sentence chosen entirely at random from a recent report she wrote on child sexual exploitation: ‘Service users need to be engaged in the process of embedding the ethos of multi agency working within the co-located team.’

          • Hobbesian_Meliorist

            ‘Service users need to be engaged in the process of embedding the ethos of multi agency working within the co-located team.’

            Is this a new kind of post-post-modern poetry? If so, it’s very good.

          • Jeffrey Vernon

            Look, I’ve found another good bit. I’m tempted to set it to music in the style of William Walton’s Facade – this showed just how effectively surreal writing could be accompanied:

            ‘The CSE specialist co – located team to undertake monthly teambuilding and clinical supervision in order to assist in the team’s development and understanding of various disciplines and to support the relatively new team in bonding together,
            understanding each other’s roles and developing a shared model of work in practice’

          • Von

            I misread you, but do you seriously believe that 5 men alone are responsible for raping and trafficking at least 1400 in Rotherham? Those 5 are only foots solders without any influence or connections thrown to the mob to lynch as scapegoats.

            Surely you don’t believe that pathetic excuse that politicians/police/services didn’t do anything for decades because of fear labeled racism.

            This is rotten from local level to the highest places, the constant demonization of *xenophobic* parties and politcians just shows that establishment is involved in all the pedophile business.

          • Jeffrey Vernon

            The 1400 figure is questionable. The Rotherham report looked at 65 case files, and found that 95% of the children were ‘at risk of child sexual exploitation.’ They never defined this term; perhaps ALL the children were gang raped in taxis, but in the world of child protection you can be deemed ‘at risk’ for far less than this (hanging around with the wrong crowd, for example). They then decided that all 1500 files would probably show the same proportion, and came up with the 1400+ figure. They also wrote that when the perp could be identified by ethnicity, they were mostly Pakistani…but just how many could be identified by ethnicity? All the men in all 65 files? 30 files? 6 files? I am surprised that none of the papers running this story showed any curiosity about this. They were more forensic about the Baby P/Sharon Shoesmith affair, but a kind of reverse PC inhibits them from interrogating claims about child sex rings.

      • Robbydot1

        Of course not. Ordinary Muslims, and they usually wait till 11 or 12.

        • Sue Smith

          Eeeeeeeeew.

          • vieuxceps2

            So if others commit crime as well as muslims,then it clears them of responsiblity does it? But are the victims of these “men”, white or brown still not wounded? do you suppose a victim of Savile feels better than a victim of Ali-Ali-Oopla?

      • Sue Smith

        A man in Australia was jailed yesterday for 6 years for marrying his 12 year old off to a 26year old. She became pregnant, but miscarried. The ‘husband” was jailed for less time, 5 years!! Good to see the law coming down good and hard on child sexual abuse. NOT.

        • Maureen Fisher

          Whereas in the U S they’ve just jailed a female teacher for 22 years for having sex with a couple of 17 yr old guys.

          • Jay Igaboo

            An anomaly, should it be factual. Female abusers, like female offenders in general, are usually let of very lightly, if prosecuted at all.
            Only recently have female sex offenders started to have action against them considered more seriously by the police, mostly as a result or MRAs. Prior to that, a young boy sexually abused by a woman was considered as worthy of sympathy as someone who had won the lottery.
            As an adolescent, I’d have felt as if I’d won the lottery, but as a father of two young sons, I was anxious to preserve their relative innocence, and to ensure that they and some girl or woman didn’t make a child when they themselves were still children..

          • Jeffrey Vernon

            They claimed they were 13. But even so… In America, a wave of female teachers are being jailed on these kinds of grounds – women in their 50s who touched a pupil 25 years ago. One was recently given a life sentence.

          • Sue Smith

            If they were Muslim their sentences would have been far, far lighter. Why do we tolerate this kind of discrimination?

        • Jeffrey Vernon

          An appalling case all round. The father’s defence is that his daughter was sleeping with this man, and he arranged the marriage to stop her living in sin. The ‘husband’ is to be deported back to Lebanon (where the age of consent for marrieds is 15).

        • Von

          That’s nothing, Somali Muslim who got asylum in Sweden brutally raped a 12 year old, including beatings and comments like: Black cock is expensive. The verdict? 180 hours of community service! Because he claimed he had *anxiety* and claimed to be 17. Destroying documents is standart practice of Muslim asylum seekers, because Sweden doesn’t deport minors.

          http://swedishsurveyor.com/2015/06/27/somali-brutally-raped-12-year-old-girl-sentenced-to-180-hours-of-community-service/

          • Jeffrey Vernon

            According to Swedish court documents, he has to pay the victim £140,000 kronor (around £10,000 pounds). It seems an odd penalty to me, though cheaper than jailing him for 2 years (which would have been the normal minimum prison term). I can see the temptation to deport the swine, but actually this kind of crime is far from unique in Sweden; Svensk Dagbladet has plenty of reports of 12/13/14 year olds male and female being assaulted by youths, older men, their own fathers – and not, in most cases, by immigrants.

          • Von

            And how exactly will he be paying the victim when he has no income and no money? Oh that’s right he won’t be paying shit.

          • Jeffrey Vernon

            If he’s unemployed it’ll be deducted every week from his benefits. You can say that this was never his money in the first place, but he’s going to notice the drop in income.

    • The Bogle

      Some multiculturalists don’t even want to get it. To question their belief in this doctrine would be tantamount to racism, which is almost the worst sin in their book.

      • edithgrove

        Our great multicural society had its origins in the early eighteenth century, according to a channel 4 trailer for ‘lost graveyard’ now being blasted at us every few minutes. History, and the rewriting of it, as propaganda.

        • Sue Smith

          Spot on!!

        • The Bogle

          The re-writing of history: resonances of Orwell’s “1984”. Whatever next, a Ministry of Truth?

          • Hobbesian_Meliorist

            It’s been going on for a long time. When Orwell wrote of newspeak, doublethink and the “Ministry of Truth”, he wasn’t just describing the Soviet Union; he was also describing the British leftist intellectuals and activists of his own day.

          • The Bogle

            Those leftist intellectuals and activists who back in the 1930s and 1940s had contempt for Britain and British values.

          • bionde

            The Daily Pravda formerly known as the daily telegraph

        • angela_kharris
        • vieuxceps2

          Yes, it’s been going on for decades now.It is exemplified by the Mary Seacole saga, still under way ,but the BBC still strives mightily to show Dr. Who in an Elizabethan London thronged with black faces.Brainwashing, Propaganda and Political Correctness are all used to obliterate White history, especially English. It seems the “Celts” are honorary blacks in this matter.

          • The Bogle

            Ah yes, the tired old mantra that “Britain has always been a land of immigrants”.

      • angela_kharris
      • Callan

        No, the worst sin in the book, according to the BBC’s hysterical reporting is a six year old girl making a Nazi salute. In 1933. Not something that looks like a Nazi salute or could be interpreted as a Nazi salute or a bit of horsing around you understand, the real, sinister McCoy.

        • The Bogle

          Yes, cue for the bien pensants to “re-examine the links between the Royals and the Nazis” if today’s Observer is anything to go by. These deluded ones will grasp at any excuse. As the photo appeared in 1933 when Hitler had just come to power, it is quite likely that the Queen Mother was mocking the Nazi salute and the future Queen imitating her mother.

          • Steve Larson

            Not really, her family had a long history of supporting the Nazis.

      • vieuxceps2

        Racism “almost” the worst? Ask Lefty, it is definitely the baddest of them all…

        • The Bogle

          I had better remove that “almost”.

      • Albert Zbingswiki

        “almost”?
        No “almost” about it, mate.

  • Roger Hudson

    Excellent! Alan Coren would be proud of you.

  • Infidelissima

    Everybody should always keep in mind that ISIS receives their largest financial support from Turkey, via oil sales.

  • Zanderz

    Good stuff Rod, the only point of contention would be your caveat of ‘my sort of deranged religious psychosis’. I would proffer that the majority of people who go to, support or agree with ISIS are not deranged or under a psychosis. It is simply that their world view has become terribly distorted by Islam. What was wrong is now right, and vice versa.

  • AJH1968

    I wonder what
    the real level of support is for ISIS in Britain. The metro left are very fond
    of telling us that it is an infinitesimal level of support, although this never evident in
    any vocal condemnation by the majority of any outrage (no doubt they are
    clinging to the narrative supplied by their leftist allies nothing to do with..).
    Is someone like Sir Michael really bamboozled by the simple cogent fact that
    the product of a feudal barbaric culture would join ISIS, it beggars belief?

    • fundamentallyflawed

      Didn’t a recent survey suggest that around 30% have sympathy with ISIS and its purported aims…..

    • I suspect the support for ISIS in Britain among Muslims is absolutely massive.

  • right1_left1

    I wish you well on your journey.
    it was that kind of spirit that made the UK rich and powerful.

    Just one point: please ensure that wherever you go any state benefits you may be receiving are transferable.

  • greencoat

    As long as you hurry back when the NHS begins to collapse without you.

  • Nik

    Right on Rod. It’s only natural, youth loves a bit of violence, horror and bloodshed, it’s excitin, like being the filums. Sanctioned by the religion of our forefathers too – That’s Culure, in it !

  • sebastian2

    Beat that! That really is putting it as it is. Well done Rod.

  • MikeF

    Perhaps they will fix you up with one of those schoolgirls from Bethnal Green as a ‘companion’. But if you don’t like it you can’t ‘just come back’. Not because the authorities here won’t let you but because the ones there won’t. As far as they are concerned once you are in you are in for keeps.

    • TrueNorthFree

      Sexual “companions” is Islam are not permitted- but those teenaged girls will be happy to be one of his second or third “wives” though.

  • TRAV1S

    The BBC will be ‘feared’ if you go off to Islamic State, Rod.

  • Richard

    In South Africa, a white person calling a black person a “kaffir” would be hate-speech. However, a Muslim calling a non-Muslim this would not qualify, even if beheadings and crucifixion are part of the association.

    • Aggie

      Interestingly I doubt if a South African Muslim (either Indian or coloured) could, in fact, call a South African non-Muslim a kaffir without being done for hate speech. Can anyone enlighten us?

      • Eurocentric

        Certainly can. The word is absolute taboo there, although chances are that calling a white non believer a kaffir might not be considered nearly as bad as calling a black non believer same. This is because it was apartheid South Africa’s version of the n word.

        • Richard

          I don’t think it would cause any waves, calling a non-black infidel a kaffir. Calling a black a kaffir, whether in reference to their colour or their religion, would cause problems, though. I do suspect, though, that a court would not find a (non-white) Muslim guilty of hate-speech if he called a black infidel a kaffir, if he meant it as infidel.

          My point was that race trumps even beheadings.

          • Aggie

            I’m afraid you’re only too right Richard as far as race trumping barbarism goes. That seems to be a world wide thing. Although, as a South African myself (albeit living in the UK), I have to say that there’s little love lost between South African Indians and coloureds no matter what their religion, and black South Africans and vice versa.

  • Tomahawk

    Just one request, can you take Owen Jones with you?

    • laurence

      I suspect that even whilst some blood-crazed 12 year old led him to his execution, Owen would still be saying it had nothing to do with The Religion of Peace.

      • MikeF

        Yes – it would just be the poor kid’s understandable reaction to constant exposure to ‘institutional Islamophobia’.

        • jkings

          Also they call it blow back.

      • global city

        he’d be blaming his predicament on us in the west.

    • vieuxceps2

      Better yet, let us buy him a flat in Tower Hamlets where he can live in peace with hi fellows of the Faith. He’ll like that.

  • Fulgentian

    I just underwent anti-radicalisation training in the institution for which I work. We were all warned about the terrible threat of far-right extremism and were even shown a video of a white teenage male who had been radicalised by reading a Facebook page which questioned whether Muslims were integrating as well as other cultures (Oh and there are some Muslim extremists as well but don’t worry it’s nothing to do with Islam).

    It was terrifying. Who will rid the UK of these horrifying legions of far-right extremists?

    WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY – like Theoden under Saruman’s curse, we no longer recognize friend from foe.

    • Dogsnob

      Was there no opportunity during said training, to politely question some of the ‘teachings’?

    • TrueNorthFree

      The reason why we “no longer recognize friend from foe.” is because we have been browbeaten and bullied with decades of multicult brainwashing. Whites have been indoctrinated to not notice the fact that our White countries are being rapidly transformed into third world cesspits where our white schoolchildren are raped by third world ethnic men by the thousands. And if that was not bad enough, those who DO NOTICE are branded as “vile racists” and silenced with shame and bullying tactics by cultural marxists.
      I think it is reasonable for Whites to want a clean, safe White country for their children and grandchildren to grow up in. After all, the third world people being dumped into our White countries have not been successful at creating high level civilizations in their own homelands.

      • Jay Igaboo

        I presume you are aware of which non-British tribe has led the brainwashing effort?

        • Robbydot1

          In English, please?

          • Ivan Ewan

            (German might be more appropriate)

        • TrueNorthFree

          Yes I am well aware of the tribal affinity of many of the philosophers, leaders, academics, international financiers and politicians who are aggressively advancing the policies which are currently genociding White populations in White countries and only White countries.

          • Jay Igaboo

            Good. It’s rarely productive to mention it here, the hasbara are well represented.

          • TrueNorthFree

            I usually don’t mention it because most of the still-brainwashed people simply can’t “compute” it. Once they have woken up they tend to learn what they need to learn.

          • Jay Igaboo

            The “waking up” from any form of brainwashing , if it ever happens, is usually the result of much pain.
            I tried for two decades of very public campaigning against the many evils generated by Cultural Marxism. My entire motivation was to save people from great pain and heartbreak.
            Not just MY people, my race, my sex, those of normal sexuality, but all of those who were emboldened, or bribed and bullied to accept it, because the rotten, degenerate and corrupt societies governed by CM will surely fall apart, and the suffering will be hellish.
            After 20 years, I have concluded that most are (perm from any of the following) to greedy, self-absorbed, cowardly ,brainwashed, easily diverted and stupid to act until the consequences of the above traits have caused them such misery that the lies of the elite can no longer hide reality from them.
            My problem, which I knew to be a problem, is that by nature I pin my colours to the mast, as I despise the moral condition of those who have inflicted this pox upon us.
            So to that extent, your final sentence is correct.

      • Fulgentian

        What I cannot understand is the motivation of those who have ‘browbeaten and bullied with decades of multicult brainwashing’. What’s in it for the cultrual marxists?

        • TrueNorthFree

          It is a source of “virtue signaling” for many. They demonstrate their moral purity by silencing and shaming all those who disagree with their cultural marxist beliefs.

        • Jay Igaboo

          They may be highly intelligent (in conventional academic terms) but they are emotionally and spiritually deranged.
          What’s in for them ?
          Power – direct power and/or the indirect power of making others lives miserable whilst felling unassailably virtuous, a common condition among zealots from the original Zealots through every form of religious and secular belief.
          (They hate all religions, including that of their tribe, as religion is an anchor, and they require all to be anchored to their vile cult. Other anchors such as the traditional father-led family, a sense of nationhood, ethic or racial identity, are only for them, not other races. Likewise traditional sexual identity, especially heterosexual masculinity, are to be ridiculed.
          They are psychologically disordered.
          ” Misery loved company” is perhaps the best explanation of their motivation, and by the use of Marcusian psychology, they achieve this by constantly shifting societies’ (sic) goalposts.
          Confused and unhappy people are easier to manipulate.
          And of course, a sense of racial superiority because they can make others serve their ends.

        • Neil Saunders

          There’s profit in chaos. The elites (who are transnational, and loyal to nowhere in particular) consolidate their own power by adopting a policy of divide and rule.

          They have their own elite bolt-holes and safe compounds (often abroad) to shield themselves from the harsher consequences of the society that they have created.

    • jkings

      These people have a very good plan. If you turn it all upside down, your opponent will land on their head. Liberalism doesn’t mind face diving.

    • Colonel Mustard

      The pussies have to indulge that ridiculous relativism and whataboutery to evade the accusation of ‘discrimination’ – an offence worse than terrorism. They have to pretend that far-right extremists really are as prevalent and dangerous as ISIS and sundry other Islamic-inspired terrorist groups.

    • Yorkieeye

      But I bet you said nowt. I don’t blame you it’s difficult to refute the correct thought dogma. But if someone starts the rest will follow.

    • Sue Smith

      Yes, you’ve gone soft in the underbelly from too much affluence. It has made people apathetic and pampered. Now they don’t see the foe in their midst because they no longer value their own culture of what they’ve got.

  • Bluesman_1

    If life in the vibrosphere becomes too dull then you could start a small business. Perhaps, given the need for correct sustenance, a small halal cafe or restaurant – closed during daylight hours during Ramadan (nothing to do with Islam) of course. You could achieve advertising by having groups of boisterous young men chanting some slogan, “A-Liddle’s Snack Bar” for instance (particularly effective when you are toying with your chopper). This could be accompanied by a fire festival where pieces of cloth (coloured red, white and blue for best effect) could be burned for the amusement of the general public.

    I hope this helps.

  • Mongo

    Don’t go, Rod – you ‘enrich’ our culture with your ‘vibrancy’

  • Mongo

    I recall that whenever I bunked off school my parents would very soon recieve a stern phonecall from the head of year. It wasn’t Islamophobic to be concerned about truancy back then you see.

    On a brighter note, at least many much-needed school spaces are becoming available

  • Paddy McLoughlin

    Oh no. Please don’t go. Your columns are a source of intelligent insight and thoughtful enlightenment for all.

    I am joking of course, you absolute scumbag.

    • The_greyhound

      My, but aren’t you a clever parrot.

    • James H, London

      The words ‘useful’ and ‘idiot’ spring to mind…

      • The_greyhound

        Though the word “useful” shows less spring than the other.

    • edlancey

      Having a Paddy over an insightful article ?

    • Infidelissima

      Insults by the rabidly cretinous left, should always be regarded as compliments.

    • Paddy McLoughlin

      Measured and intellectual comments gentlemen, well done. You’ve really shown me the light.

      • Guest 1

        They merely reflected the tone of your own original comment.

      • Patrick Roy

        Well you’re here aren’t you, you idiot.

  • Garnet Thesiger

    Had a bad week Rod? Think you’ve overworked this theme a bit….

    • Infidelissima

      yeah, it’s not as if Islam is making itself negatively relevant or anything.

    • Mongo

      so? He’s one of the few journalists/commentators not afraid to continually speak the unpolitically correct truth, even if he does overuse the sarcasm factor

      actually I prefered his article a few weeks ago about the Islamic Republic of Dewsbury to this piece, but I welcome Rod as a constant antidote to the ever present PC apologists and appeasers

      • Garnet Thesiger

        True, don’t misunderstand me, he is the finest commentator going and I turn to this site every morning in the hope that he has something new, just thought this one was maybe written after a particularly restless night, maybe?!

        • BetrayedRosse

          These things need repeating until people start to listen, sadly

    • vieuxceps2

      No,no,no,Garnet. This is the most dreadful part of modern life here in the West. Nobody objects to their faith being carried out in their own lands,but you see, they’re all over the place now, every-bloody-where.We’re in the worst quag that we’ve been in since the last war and our libllab lefties encourage them.More reality,more sense,more English kokum, that’s what’sneeded. Out with’em! Back to the desert lands of the Prophet . No place here or in Europe for them.

      • tolpuddle1

        How do you propose expelling them ?

        You and whose army ?

        • Infidelissima

          you’re right, we keep forgetting that our media and government works for them now

        • vieuxceps2

          Dunno.Do you?

        • Colonel Mustard

          Certainly not yours. They would be too busy ululating and waving Palestininan flags and placards with “Tory scum out!”

      • Garnet Thesiger

        fair point – I just came over all funny for a moment…think that halal burger contained something a bit odd – be O.K. in a week or so..

  • I was thinking of converting to Islam too. Of course, it’s nothing to do with Islam.

    • Mongo

      maybe we should all convert to Islam and then it would cease to exist!

      • vieuxceps2

        Eh?

  • ExamineIslam

    Can someone shove this under David Cameron, Theresa May and Michael Gove’s noses please? During WWII we detained ALL Germans in the UK – even German Jews – in case any had an allegiance to the enemy nation. We won the war. Today we not only allow the enemy to throng into our nation where they are allowed free roaming, we also bend over backwards to adapt our culture to their demands and apologise when they revert to their backwards culture and bugger off to join ISIS. The more go the better for us all.

    • Mongo

      One thing the media never describes these people as are traitors. They are supposedly British citizens who leave of their own free will to join an enemy who we are at war with. That’s the definition of treason. No two ways about it.

      Instead we’re supposed to be deeply concerned for their welfare and fear for their safety.

      • ExamineIslam

        They totally are traitors. That idea, and the idea of Patriotism, Queen and Country have been deleted from modern consciousness. I for one am jolly glad to live in this country and not somewhere else – and I appreciate WHY it is the way it is – through long struggle to civilise and through Enlightenment ideals – and I can see it being destroyed from within through misplaced attempts at salving the guilt of colonialism. We are no longer a colonial power – our children’s future should not be thrown away on the basis of this ridiculous white guilt.

      • tolpuddle1

        As no state of war has been declared against Islamic State, where’s the “treason” ?

        • Mongo

          Just because IS aren’t truly a ‘state’ or a nation and we can’t technically declare war on them in the legal sense is irrelevant. They have openly declared war on us. Cameron and others have openly stated we are at WAR with IS and Islamic extremists

          If a British citizen joins a terrorist organisation and then proceeds to commit terrorist acts against Britain, they are a traitor.

          • tolpuddle1

            But the young idiots who have gone to Syria aren’t committing acts against Britain.

            A state of war requires formal declaration. A declaration of war by windbags isn’t an adequate substitute.

        • Dogsnob

          Just below the headstone of Lee Rigby.

          • Sue Smith

            That was one of the most shocking outrages to be committed in the UK in living memory. It rates up there with the July, 2007 tube station bombing and the IRA atrocities.

        • vieuxceps2

          If you facilitate and encourage the destruction of your country by foreign powers then that is treason.

        • Colonel Mustard

          There, right there, is why people like you are so dangerous.

          • tolpuddle1

            I cannot see how anyone or anything can be more dangerous than the pathetic floundering and under-handedness of people like Cameron, who want Britain to get involved without “getting involved.”

            A laughable instance of this is British pilots getting involved in the fighting while “embedded” with other forces – i.e. while fighting for someone else !

        • Hironimous Nostril

          A state of war being declared isn’t a requirement.

          • tolpuddle1

            It is, otherwise the anomaly that applied during the Vietnam War (when the USA was supposedly at peace with North Vietnam) applies.

      • Neil Saunders

        The Muslims in such instances are not traitors (although, even if born here, they are certainly undesirable aliens) because they have never professed allegiance to the country.

        The traitors are our elites themselves, and the press and other media that do their bidding.

        • wudyermucuss

          Correct

        • Yorkieeye

          Where I live in West Yorkshire Asian people still talk about ‘their village’ meaning where their grandparents came from two or more generations ago. Indeed there is still plenty of tribal type enmity in the community over old country geography and family ties.

        • Mongo

          I’m a British citizen but I don’t recall ever ‘professing alleigance’ to Queen or country

          If they are British citizens (hold a British passport) then they are committing treason if they join an enemy Britain is at war with.

          • Neil Saunders

            No, the traitors were the people who thought (and who still think) that you can invite in hostile aliens, and that somehow they and their descendants will automatically become house-trained and loyal.

            The rest is just splitting hairs.

        • Sue Smith

          It’s not all Muslims – let’s be clear about that. The most populous Muslim nation on earth is Indonesia and the vast majority live quietly and work hard. It’s extremists, trained and groomed via the Middle East that are the problem.

          • Neil Saunders

            The Muslims in Indonesia are not the ones we’re talking about on this thread, Sue. Or hadn’t you already figured that out?

      • Robbydot1

        The traitors are sitting Westminster. Not the Muslim scum, what do they owe?

    • tolpuddle1

      So why are we buying Saudi oil, then ?

      • ExamineIslam

        We certainly should not – government should boycott all trade with Muslim countries inc. Qatar, Saudi, Iran – it’s just not worth it. I’m buying an electric vehicle soon as I can. Disgusting to buy anything from these fanatics.

      • Chris Taylor

        Because lefties won’t allow us to frack.

        • Colonel Mustard

          Good one!

      • vieuxceps2

        To use it of course.Why else does anyone buy oil? We need it.They’ve got it. We buy it.

        • Alexsandr

          we could frack

          • vieuxceps2

            Yessir! Sooner the better.

      • jkings

        Put it in cars and they go. There are also other practical uses that make people forget where it came from.

      • Dogsnob

        Because it’s too expensive to get cars to run on Glenfiddich. Also sacrilegious.

    • The Bogle

      Max Frisch’s play “Biedermann and the Fire Raisers” is instructive. The decent unimaginative citizen, Herr Biedermann, invites some arsonists into his home and even gives them the matches with which they set fire to his house. Some saw the play, written in 1947, as an allegory for Germany voting the Nazis into power, but the play has a more universal relevance – as we can see in western Europe today.

      • Mannheimer

        I read that play and it very much reminds me of what is going on right now.

  • The_greyhound

    Rod, peace be upon him, cheers up an otherwise dismal Thursday.

    I wonder if, when he sets off with his wives and camels the BBC will lead the Nine O’Clock News with “Fears are growing for the well being of the Grand Mufti of Millwall and tent-loads of dependents now believed to be braving the hazards of French cooking and French plumbing as they wend their way to the nearest NTDWI war zone”. Mr Cameroon might well promise to send an aircraft carrier to rescue these “Britons”. If we had such a vessel, that is.

  • mmac1968

    Rod can you confirm if you were radicalised by Grandtheft Auto, specialist chat rooms and or Tom and Jerry. I have no doubt you were NOT radicalised by your peers (dressed as Afghan goat headers), your recently imported relatives (who need not speak English but are old enough to need full time medical care for which you now win carers allowance and a disabled sticker for your M3) or your local Mosque which you have attended since the age of 2. Said mosque where you had mild theological chit chats with a Nazi dressed as a theologian.

  • WTF

    Excellent, nothing to add, but the powers that be will still ignore the cancer that is Islam !

    • tolpuddle1

      So – surgery, chemo or what ?

      What are you proposing to DO ? Or the government to do ?

      • Fulgentian

        The best thing to do would be to reform Islam from the inside out. Spend a decent amount of cash on injecting reformist preachers and academics throughout ‘Dar-al-Islam’ and watch it fall to bits.

        • stag

          And watch them get blown to bits, more like. That conversation can only take place via the anonymity of the internet.

        • Patrick Roy

          Ugh, here’s hoping they’ll kill themselves in the desert after the oil becomes completely obsolete (soon). Or maybe they’ll just hold the world to ransom with nukes as they’re too retarded to develop any real industries (now).

          • Alexsandr

            yes. lets get fracking. Tell the gulf where to shove their oil.

      • WTF

        Radiation treatment works on some cancers so perhaps a nuke or two will remove the malignant part and as with cancer treatment, sometimes the good cells have to be sacrificed to ensure no remission !

  • Bonkim

    Commercial opportunity for budget airlines to start one-way charter flights – fares include shared ownership of the planes that will not be returned. next step – ISIS Airlines.

  • edlancey

    Just two things:

    1) I’d like to thank you and your co-religionists for the “immense contribution” they’ve made to our country, particularly in providing lots of patients for the investigation of inbreeding.

    2) Don’t forget to sign off at the dole office. I’d hate to see your DLA continue to pile up in a bank account in this infidel hellhole.

  • Rowland Nelken

    The ‘nothing to do with Islam’ gang should read the koran and hadiths. Sure, bits of the bible bang on about the grisly fate of unbelievers at the end of time, but the Koran does almost nothing else. What’s more- Jews and Christians, don’t be fooled by all this islamic toleration stuff. That is simply for a trial period on this earth. You can live in our manor, sure, so long as you pay an extra tax, but if you want to avoid eternal torture come judgement day, you better recognise that Jesus was not a god, merely a prophet, and that adherence to God’s law as set out in the koran (not the torah) is your only hope.

    • tolpuddle1

      Suggest you go to Islamland, then, and rescue the Muslims from their religious servitude by preaching to them.

    • Jeffrey Vernon

      You’ve answered your own question. Islam is not a scriptural religion, and most of its adherents don’t know the koran or hadith in any language. The armchair mullahs who type ‘koran amputation’ and find the verse referring to it imagine that all muslims i) know about this verse and ii) converted to islam because they approved of it. If you read the koran cover to cover the effect is soporific; mohamed is the prophet, the people don’t believe him, god will punish them at the end, look I send you a sign … the handful of verses about tax, witness, punishments are very sparse.

      • vieuxceps2

        Then why are there madrassa schools simply for the teaching of the Koran?

        • Jeffrey Vernon

          Very few undergo this form of training. Most of the world’s muslims cannot recite, read or interpret classical Arabic.

          • vieuxceps2

            But surely their Imams can? Is that not even more dangerous? Here in the West we took a long time to translate the Bible into the vernacular tongues,but once done, the end of the priests was in sight.Today “most muslims” hear only what their imams want them to hear.Frightening.

          • Jeffrey Vernon

            Credentials of imams can be minimal; there is no requirement either to have memorised all of the qoran, or to be able to read it. There are probably radicalising imams in some UK mosques, but the situation in most cases is that they speak only Urdu or Bengali, and address only an aging congregation. Their grandchildren, wanting to find out about this muslim identity we want to foist on them, go surfing; Sheikh Web is the most important means of radical recruitment

          • vieuxceps2

            Thank you,but this “muslim identity we want to foist on them”–? I feel that no English person would be other than pleased at anyone who renounced the absurd muslim identity. It’s up to them how ,or if, they choose to think.

          • Jeffrey Vernon

            Well, take a look at this page. ISIS is Islam; Islam is ISIS. Young British asians are constantly being told how foreign, backward and dangerous they are. Terror, child abuse and antisemitism. Reporters ask them what they think ‘as muslims’, educators fret about muslim identity in schools, journalists refer to a homogeneous muslim community. These young Asians look at their lapsed muslim parents and grandparents who don’t seem very observant (Dad makes odd trips to the mosque, maybe they keep Eid) and wonder what it is about islam that keeps us all in thrall. What they find on the web is not the dreary stuff that most religions consist of (wash, pray, fast, avoid pork, give alms, go on pilgrimage) but the grievances and appeals of the radicals. They learn that killing infidels is the most important duty of a muslim, which would astonish their families who never thought anything of the kind. Along come the mischievous anti-muslim commentators ‘proving’ that this is indeed what they should do, with lines carefully excerpted from the qoran.

          • vieuxceps2

            Your picture of (muslim) family life could equally be applied to Germans in the 1930’s before the war came. Millions of people then awoke as urged and entered into conflict and barbarism.Such is the potential for us today as those things which you don’t mention increase.
            I speak of Sharia courts, of honour killings,of FGM, of forced marriages, of high unemployment and prison occupancy,of inbreeding and defects in children,of abuse of non-muslim children of hatred of homosexuals and of subjection of women.I don’t doubt that the ordinary Ali has little taste for the Qu’oran but his mentors have.Islam requires submission which means no independence of thought,which means a population ripe for riots-Remember Rushdie and the Danish cartoons? Or Hebdo?
            As for your idea that it is “we” who cause these things, I can ony suppose that all mass- movements need useful idiots. You seem well-qualified for that role.

          • Jeffrey Vernon

            You ask whether ‘we’ foisted this identity onto muslims – in a post that seems to do precisely that. It will not be possible to deal with the nutjobs that carried out the CH massacre so long as we insist that all muslims would have done the same.

          • vieuxceps2

            On the contrary, I do not accept that “we” (note inverted commas) have foisted any identity on muslims at all.They have done that themselves..

  • disqus_1VhMJcA5Yv

    another deluded zombie on the highway to hell…hope you come to your spiritual senses soon ; but failing that hope you get
    fragged before you inflict your “love” on anyone else.

    • The_greyhound

      You forgot to mention you made $344 dollars while sat at home with all ten digits stuck up your fundament.

      • disqus_1VhMJcA5Yv

        are you speaking for yourself? or are you just ruminating on bafflegab; whilst f$cking the dog …err…. goat?

  • tolpuddle1

    How do Rod Liddle’s rants against Islam do ANYTHING to tackle Islamism ?

    Obviously, Rod and his many kindred-spirits are not going to fight the jihadis or do anything useful against them whatever.

    Nor is anyone else in the West. That’s Capitalism – there is no God except Money and Adam Smith was its Prophet.

    • Mongo

      The only way we will ever tackle this problem is by educating people about the truth of Islam. Most people are blissfully ignorant about the realities of the Quran etc, because they believe what they are told and have never bothered to check for themselves. This includes many ‘moderate’ Muslims who actually know very little about their own faith.

      Sites like thereligionofpeace.com and commentators like Rod and Douglas Murray are essential in order to inform and educate.

      Rod just has his own idiosyncratic ‘style’….

      • Fulgentian

        I wholeheartedly agree! The problem is (as Douglas Murray will tell you) that when you actually quote the Quran and the Hadith people say ‘that’s racist/islamophobic’ and it gets shut down.

        This is the utter suicidal insanity of our society and the reason why we are utterly doomed. We cannot face reality and we will pay for it.

        • Alexsandr

          just point people at thereligionofpeace.com

    • Colonel Mustard

      How do your zzzzzzz-inducing rants against Capitalism do ANYTHING to tackle Islamism?

      Every time the subject comes up some sad socialist fucker like you starts the whataboutery crapola.

    • anotherjoeblogs

      I think Rod is doing his bit by using sarcasm to chisel away at the monolith of The Big Lie, which has nothing to do with islam, of course.

    • BetrayedRosse

      The only comfort I take from your posts is that the Tolpuddle martyrs would be spinning in their graves at the shit you post in their name.

  • Game Bird

    Terribly unPC of me I know, but I laughed out loud reading that article.
    It was such a piss take.

    I’m sure I will be suitably castrated at some point for my appalling sense of humour.

  • JSC

    Rod, you probably got those stares because you don’t have a fist length beard and aren’t being followed by your four wives dressed in black burkas. If anyone says anything to you again, just look at them like you might explode at any second and shout “Allah Akbar!” at the top of your voice. That’s they correct way to defuse a tense situation, I know this because it’s what Muslims do all over the world every time there’s a terrorist attack, car crash, beheading etc. Everyone knows there’s nothing more relaxing and calming than a thousand people screaming the Takbir as loud as they possibly can any time concentration and rationality are urgently required.

  • Glennys Wiggin

    vile scum…I wish they would all go..but if they do they should have passports taken on exit..we dont need this filth here.

  • Margate Sands

    Say what you want about Poles…

    • cartimandua

      Largest group in our prisons the Poles. Its about who we have let in in terms of skills.

      • vieuxceps2

        Largest group in our prisons? Thought that was the muslims?

  • greggf

    I can see it’s time you were invited on C4 again Rod, with Yasmin Alibhai-Brown and that nice young presenter to demonstrate you conversion to their way of thinking ……

  • Augustus

    Je suis Ibn Liddle!

    Tout est pardonné.

  • Nicola Simionato

    i am not tollerant: Death to muslmis dogs

  • The_greyhound

    Ah, but did Rod go about in the usual black flag, or was he exhibiting the gratuitously vulgar version where the letters are made up of diddledoes and other things too unspeakable even to mention? http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/30/isis-dildo-flag-london-pride-cnn

    I think we should be told.

  • A real liberal

    Another sparkling article. Painful and bitter-sweet, but so necessary. I wonder how long it will be before the Editor or Inspector Slipper comes to feel your collar. Have you left a letter with a loved one? At least we still have habeas corpus. We do don’t we?

    • rightrightright

      Not so sure. Tommy Robinson (ex EDL) who was let out of prison on licence (which forbids him from speaking freely) has just been hauled back in for the last week of his sentence. Whether he is freed at the end of that week seems open to doubt. The State has control of his body and wants him silenced.

  • The Dybbuk

    You really don’t need to do anything so extreme. There is a shelter for persecuted innocents like you in Kings Place. Just roll up and ask for Seamus or Owen and you will be welcomed into the comforting embrace of a community totally committed to your struggle for peaceful liberal jihad.

  • TrueNorthFree

    “…the bizarre doublethink of multiculturalism … that all cultures are essentially as liberal and democratic as your own and committed to the same goals and aspirations.”
    It is becoming extremely obvious, even to those formerly brainwashed by multicult propaganda, that mutliculturalism is a disastrous failure. Once people begin to notice that fact, it is only a small mental leap to embrace the frightening reality that “diversity” is code for “white genocide”. Our white people in white countries are being forced assimilated by millions of third world people who will inevitably breed with the ever shrinking current population of whites.
    For some reason, the international financiers who run our things do not want large populations of white people on this planet anymore and their deliberate plan of white genocide is well underway.

    • Richard longpole

      You mean the white international financiers who have squandered the western worlds wealth and caused an almost global financial catastrophe. white genocide will happen, and the Chinese will be right on cue to take over. You are too busy looking in the wrong direction. You choose an easy target because you feel the Muslim people are weak. You can’t fight the financial institutes who’ve caused the banking crisis because they are too big and powerful (and white). And your jobs haven’t gone to some immigrant (ex-pat), they’ve gone to China, because Britain has become too lazy to manufacture anything of decent value and allowed the Chinese or Malaysians to do it instead.

      • WTF

        Forget what our leaders are saying, the grass roots in the west sees the present threat as Islam and the radicalized nutters it creates. China is an economic threat possibly but they have just crashed so its certainly not an imminent threat to us.

        We don’t choose Muslims because they are weak, they choose us because they see us as weak. When the authorities ignore 10 years of under age gang rape that’s because those Pakistani men see us as weak and our establishment most certainly is weak. In America where arms are commonplace unless the authorities cut out the malignant parts of Islam the people will certainly show them they aren’t weak and even in the UK with no guns, we can only be pushed so far !

        I’m more concerned about today’s problems like Woolwich, Fort Hood, Chattanooga, Boston and all those ‘lose wolves’ who have nothing to do with the RoP !

        • Richard longpole

          China’s economic system has certainly not crashed, slowed yes, but that’s because it had spiked. As long as the Western demand for cheaper products continues, China will produce.
          The culture in the UK and in the U.S. is as I said earlier, double standards. For example and I speak in real terms based on what goes on around me:-Pornography is a massive business in U.S., and across the world in general. It is degrading to women everywhere regardless of whether they like it or not. But the western culture deems this is acceptable. (I don’t accept the sexual degradation of any human being regardless of age, and I believe offences against children punishable by something far more than the law allows, but that’s an opinion).
          Then there is paedophilia! An abhorrent act committed by the majority of white men (and even some women) against young boys and girls. This is what I see…..it’s not some isolated incident. It’s real world events. The Catholic Church are even suggesting that paedophiles have an illness that needs treatment and understanding!! I’m apologise for almost laughing because it’s no laughing matter.
          What is though, as that you are against Pakistanis who commit indecent acts against children and women but ignore it when it’s one of your own. Something is wrong with your thinking!

          • Colonel Mustard

            “An abhorrent act committed by the majority of white men (and even some women) against young boys and girls.”

            Really? A ‘majority’ of white men, eh? Sounds more like something is wrong with YOUR thinking.

          • Richard longpole

            Nothing wrong with my thinking. Why should you have the monopoly to generalise about a race.

          • WTF

            Paedophilia is condemned by everyone in the west and its a crime as well but the problem with your argument is that Christianity doesn’t promote it whilst Islam does. Its not a crime to have sexual realations with 12 year old girls in fact Big Mo set the example by marrying a 7 year old.

            You can say what you like about crimes committed by western pedophiles but in Islam, that same act isn’t a crime. Sounds like your thinking is a bit skewed !

          • Richard longpole

            In what what way is it skewed, and why has the Catholic Church suggested that (western) paedophiles be treated rather than locked up.
            Nothing skewed, offences against children are a crime and should not be tolerated by any society or religious cult, but clean up your own shit first before you start taking your moralistic toilet paper to other cultures.

          • WTF

            You implied I was letting off Catholic priest abusers but slamming Pakistani abusers when thats not the case, I don’t care who the male (or female) abuser may be if its a man he should be castrated.

            The difference is we know its a crime against minors but Islam promotes it in their scriptures.

          • Jeffrey Vernon

            The age of consent is between 15 and 18 in modern muslim countries, and no-one seriously thinks today that consummation with 9 year olds is normal. Child marriages were common in early Islam’s contemporary Byzantium; the 11th century Byzantine emperor Alexius had to argue with his priests about betrothals at 7 (which were principally a way of avoiding female infanticide), and about the postponement of consummation.

          • Sean L

            That’s only on account the laws relating to minors being enforced here. But having lived in Africa I can assure you that any form of deviant behaviour you can find here will have no shortage of practitioners there also. But law enforcement is more, shall we say, lax. For instance when I first stayed in Nairobi and heard about maids being raped on their way home by security guards, I naively enquired why they didn’t inform the police? “Because they’d be raped again” came the answer. Incidentally, there are no labour laws either in Africa generally, or none that are enforced. Law enforcement, like everything else, exists for those who can pay for it – in cash.

          • TrueNorthFree

            Your reasoning is flawed. The Pakistani Muslim men who raped thousands of white English schoolgirls for years in Rotherham and other cities were given free reign to rape white schoolgirls for years because officials did not dare speak against the Muslim rapists.
            That uncomfortable fact cannot be brushed aside by changing the subject to white rapists.

          • Richard longpole

            If the Pakistani men were able to get away with it because the officials allowed it to happen, then the officials are also guilty. I do not brush aside what the Pakistani men did, all I am asking you to do is widen your condemnation against ALL people to commit these acts against children. You will find that you cannot generalise against Muslims and just be selective when it comes to western culture.

          • BetrayedRosse

            Committed mostly by white men – yes because the thousands of Pakistani groomers have all got off scot free save for the handful of lip service ones being sent to prison now, ridiculous!

          • Richard longpole

            perhaps you should have voted differently then.

      • Colonel Mustard

        Tripe.

      • cartimandua

        The burgeoning Chinese middle classes no longer want to make or buy cheap Chinese “stuff”.

      • TrueNorthFree

        “You choose an easy target because you feel the Muslim people are weak.”
        Seriously?? Muslims are “weak”?
        Nobody believes that. There are billions of Muslims in the world and their population is growing extremely fast because Muslim women are having a lot of babies. The world wide Muslim high fertility rates are simple verifiable facts.
        And not only are Muslims are force to be reckoned with demographically, they are at the very core a tribal group. Your tribal affinities to Allah and your fellow Muslims are far stronger and deeper ties than any attachment you may have to the values of freedom and democracy we hold dear in our civilized Western countries. Muslims do not immigrate, they colonize.

        • Richard longpole

          Ha ha ha ha! ‘Tribal affinities’ ‘fellow Muslims’! No single member of my family going back generations have ever had any ties with Allah and Muslims. You are ignorant! You see the term ‘black’ (for person) and immediately believe we don’t belong here. Freedom and democracy are words you read about, but you apply no meaning to it in relation to your own life. Because you are brought in a culture that is beneficial to the ‘white male’. You’ve never had to fight for your own freedom and democracy.

          • TrueNorthFree

            Actually, my beliefs are more nuanced than that. I believe that our civilized Western countries are no longer White, and the non-European people who are here are not going anywhere. We will all have to find a way to co-exist and IMO human dignity is a cornerstone. I actually have far less worries about British blacks than I do for British Muslims, many of whom have openly stated that they hate Britain and everything it stands for.
            British blacks seem to assimilate and for the most part work hard and contribute to the society. I am not against small numbers of well assimilated, well behaved ethnics in our Western White countries.
            I am against Whites being bred out of existence by the invasion of millions of third world people who turn our white countries into the cesspits they came from.
            You should be against that too – do you really want your decent country to be a third world hell hole?

  • Suzy61

    I have yet to hear anyone convince me that multi-culturalism has brought us anything more than…..curry.

    Assuming that 50% of the population don’t like curry, we also have to assume that those who do like curry think that the odd Chicken Tikka Masala is a price worth paying for all the other ‘joys’ multi-culturism brings.

    Perhaps we can convert the curry fans into supporting the multi-cultural, peaceful and less troublesome fare….the humble Chop Suey?

    • Richard longpole

      The NHS is being propped up (barely) by multi-culturalism, because it is being dragged down by rich white fat cats. How many non-English doctors are there? And the majority of people who are not working are English, not because the jobs are being taken by foreigners but because they think they are owed a living by the state, and too lazy to go out and take it.
      Your attitude to multi-culturalism belongs on the Jeremy Kyle show like the rest of your breed!

      • vieuxceps2

        Your frightening acceptance of multiculti England shows that the real peril we face comes not from immigrants but from those strange control freaks the marxoids who wish to subsume us under their marxist culture. Longpole,you cannot know the numbers of immigrants “supporting” the NHS as it is illegal, thanks to your hate-laws,to collect such data.You however do not hesitate to spread these “facts” as they help to keep us ignorant of reality.Why do you not tell us of the high numbers of “ethnic”patients,especially in maternity wards,or of the incidence of sad disabled children from muslim in-breeding?
        Your selective “truths” seem to point only to whatever good points you find. Why should not these people work in our hospitals? It’s not a favour to us, it’s a way of making a living just as we have always had to do.When commenters write of “treason” they should include the likes of you.

        • Richard longpole

          I do not have any hate laws! By religion I am agnostic. And I have been working in the private and public health care system for 30 years. Ethnic patients in the NHS are small in comparison to the ethnic workers. As for treason, I have not committed any act of treason. I don’t spread facts, I don’t go online and look at statistics and use these to justify my argument. I keep my eyes open and look around me, I’ve worked the length and breadth of this country and see that NHS is being propped up by the very people you want to get rid of. The care industry is one of the most undervalued industry’s in this country and it disgusts me that we are treated with contempt from the top while trying to ensure Mr and Mrs Johnny English have the best care possible in one of the most difficult times in their lives.

          • rj

            Mr and Mrs Johnny English?

          • Suzy61

            Don’t fret….it’s allowed (apparently).

          • Ridcully

            “Ethnic patients in the NHS are small in comparison to the ethnic workers.”
            As a nurse who has worked in the NHS for just over 30 years all I can say to this is.. rubbish!

      • Marcussmod

        Unemployment rates for non whites are much higher per 000 of the population. The NHS up here in the NE is run mainly by white people as it is in most parts of the UK with the exception of London.

        After the Muslim grooming scandal was proven in a court of law the next taboo is welfare dependency within that community.

      • Colonel Mustard

        Unmitigated tripe-ola.

      • cartimandua

        Ethnic minorities are over represented in our med schools yet they fail at every level of testing.(source BMJ)
        “boosting” people up like that is not going to be good for patients.

      • Kevin T

        The NHS is “propped up by multiculturalism” because (1) our child-centric education system does not produce people capable of coping with the rigour of medical school and (2) because nurses and other staff are provided by agencies that pay poorly. Thus we raid third world countries’ medical systems for their personnel.

        • Richard longpole

          You are so right, Oxford, Cambridge and Durham churn out idiots. Sarcasm aside though, the care industry is appalling in this country unless you have money. I did a placement in British Columbia many years ago and was amazed at the respect the care staff received, which naturally passed down to their clients.
          The NHS has to work to a budget that’s a given, and it could be the best in the world if it stopped paying too much money to those at the top and concentrated on the care of its frontline staff.

      • Suzy61

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2878312/80-000-UK-students-told-t-train-nurse-Thousands-t-courses-despite-four-five-new-NHS-workers-foreign.html

        Are these the ‘lazy’ English you speak about?

        Did you mean British, by the way?

        You think it’s a good idea to have other countries pay to train their students only for them to come to the UK and work for the NHS?

        You think this is one of the many ‘benefits’ of multi-culturalism?

        Do you understand the difference between a multi-cultural society and a multi-racial society?

        • Richard longpole

          The daily mail! That’s part of your argument?

          • Ridcully

            Playing the man instead of the ball; that’s part of your argument?

          • Jeffrey Vernon

            To be fair, I think it’s his opponents who have been dodging the ball.

          • Suzy61

            I have said nothing racist in my comments and yet you, who take pride in some moral high-ground, have referred to me and ‘my breed’ and then proceeded on an hysterical rant against ‘white’ people.

            You believe you are above learning and see no irony in your posts?

            Once more, because you seem particularly deserving….

            GO AND RESEARCH THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A MULTI-CULTURAL SOCIETY AND A MULTI-RACIAL SOCIETY.

            When you return, try to keep your ‘racism’ in check.

      • Suzy61

        Obviously, you don’t know the difference between a multi-cultural society and a multi-racial one. Go look it up.

        You are still not offering anything more than curry.

        There are many thousands of ‘lazy’ English (did you mean British?) applying for nursing courses and being denied – I assume because it is cheaper to use ready-trained staff from abroad.

        Are you putting this forward as a ‘benefit’ of multi-culturism?

        • Richard longpole

          Suzy61, do you really think that by reading about a multi-cultural and multi-racial society will help me better understand it?
          No I don’t think so either.
          I look around, have worked the length and breadth of this country for 30 years in health care and I can tell you what I’ve seen. Thousands of patients (clients) mainly white, being helped by the very people you take umbrage to being in the country. White elderly patients, your white mothers and fathers, white people with horrific disabilities just looking for help and support, because for many of them it’s not coming from their own family. And why? The number of times I’ve heard “oh, they have their own lives now” or “they come to see me once or twice a year, but they live abroad”.
          If you think I’m offering just curry (wrong culture but never mind) think again. I love my job and wouldn’t change it for anything, but it sickens me that you spend most of your time trying to stop the irrational fear that’s spreading through your culture, while your parents lie waiting to die.

          • Suzy61

            OK, OK…….so it is just curry, then?

          • Richard longpole

            Aah, another one.

          • Jeffrey Vernon

            And what do you offer? Beans on toast?

          • Suzy61

            I don’t have to offer anything.

            I am not the one making the claim.

      • vieuxceps2

        “the rest of your breed”-Longpole,you tell us ad nauseam that you are black. Do you know that if I referred to your background as “your breed” I’d risk losing my job or even being imprisoned? Yet you and “your breed” (ironic,I swear) use such terminology as a matter of course. Racism it seems works only one way.Your appalling life in England, caused of course by English people and not Scots . Welsh or Irish, can be improved by moving to a land wher black people make the rules. Why not go?

        • Richard longpole

          I use the word ‘breed’ simply because it’s language that has been used against me a countless number of times by both white and Asian people. And with regards to moving, I probably will do, but would rather wait for the country to band together and vote for some far right group to pay for my ticket out, that’s one of the reasons I voted BNP until recently.

          • vieuxceps2

            Niggardly beggar!

          • Suzy61

            Maybe Longpole…but not by me.

            A BNP voter, no less?

          • vieuxceps2

            What a niggardly attitude.Have you no pride?

    • WTF

      Yep, shame really as I embraced Curry years back but it wasn’t Muslims or Islam it was a good Indian friend who got me started on cooking my own curries.

    • Marcussmod

      If only people could grasp how expensive those cheap curry deals really are. The humble curry is more powerful than any military hardware. It has led to the total transformation of my home town main street, which now resembles some third world Bangladeshi backwater.

      • WTF

        Pray for a monsoon to clear out the detritus !

    • Alexsandr

      and the real misconception is you have to be asian to make curry. which is complete b0110cks.

  • Patrick Roy

    Go on Rod and take the BBC with you!

  • John Andrews

    Rod, I understand why you have changed your mind about Islam.

    • WTF

      Now we have to educate Cameron, Obama and all the other western leaders, that wont be as easy until one of their own is killed by a ‘lone wolf’ RoP nutjob !

  • justlookin

    Still wearing my PLO scarf and sharp suit once in a while, especially to theatre.
    I have yet to be attacked or verbally abused by radical zionists or other vapid bores.

    • Colonel Mustard

      Yeah, wearing your PLO scarf and sharp suit to the theatre (ha!) is so “edgy” and putting yourself out there, risking life and limb at the hands of vapid bores and their suicide vests.

      And then those radical zionists with their beheadings and defiling of children, their suicide bomb attacks on crowded markets, buses and trains.

      Man, you’re a brave one!

  • Dexter vs Sinister

    Outstanding stuff Rod….
    have you and Pat Condell been in touch?

    Bitingly satirical, and savagely true.

    Excellent.

  • ur mum

    So why is this dated July 18th?

    • Mongo

      He hasn’t left yet. His flight on ISIS Airlines leaves Heathrow tomorrow

    • Alexsandr

      its the cover date of the magazine it will be printed in

  • Richard longpole

    Born in this country, raised in this country, worked all my life and contributed to this country’s economic standing. But because I am black, I am told to eff off back to my own country whenever race is involved.
    Bottom line, this country has not changed much since the National Front of the 70’s, with the only difference being, it’s acceptable to be racist! Freedom of speech and all that. The right to offend! Well there are consequences…..if you call me a name, I’ll call you one back, if you attack me I’ll fight back. Does that make me a terrorist, or a defender of my personal liberties? Of course it depends on which culture you belong to.
    And speaking of cultures, it’s a rite of passage in some cultures to carry out procedures on the genetalia. Castration is deemed acceptable, a Christian tradition taken up by the Jewish faith. Double standards all the way…..if the western culture doesn’t understand something it’s wrong. I once dated a girl who had been castrated. She had it done at 14 and she and girls of similar age looked forward to it as it was their way of becoming women. No pain, no back street surgery, none of that propaganda stuff bleated out by those who don’t understand…..just girls becoming women as that is their culture.
    I truly hope that when the far right get into power, they will pay for my ticket out of here because I hate my country and all its double standards.

    • WTF

      Just one point, do you really know what female castration is, let me tell you.

      Female castration or Oophorectomy is the surgical removal of one or both ovaries, it has NOTHING whatsoever to do with that disgusting practice that Islam spawned called FGM.

      As for your rant on fighting back, you have every right to counter perceived verbal abuse with similar verbal abuse as most people would do. You have ABSOLUTELY no moral or legal right to use any form of force against people saying things you don’t like and most certainly not bombing innocent civilians in say Boston Mass just because you agree with that terrorist group Hamas in Palestine.

      The problem with extremist Muslims they appear to have been castrated at birth, the males that is (real castration) as when ever they go on about some perceived injustice 4000 miles away, instead of going over there and doing something about it, most stay in their comfy western ghettos drawing benefits and plotting their next atrocity against people totally unrelated to their issue.

      If the UK is that bad a place to live, just go on a Club Jihadist break as I’m sure they’ll pay you and you get to pick an under age girl as a concubine in the tradition of big Mo !

      • Richard longpole

        The UK is a bad place to some people, or is that an exclusive right to English white people only. As far as Jihadists, Muslims, Christians or any other religion I couldn’t give a sod about any of them, they all extremes as far as I’m concerned. No, it’s equality that seems to rile me, the fact that English white people will only accept equality if they are at the top. I don’t lie, the Welsh, Scottish and Irish don’t like the English and want to pull away from the United Kingdom.

        • WTF

          “English white people will only accept equality if they are at the top” you certainly have the mother of all chips on your shoulder and I wonder why as I’ve worked and socialized with many different people Caribbean, Indian plus Spanish & Europeans and I’ve never felt any animosity towards me nor have I given a superior attitude to them. They are people just like me and I don’t see color or where they came from I see the person. Some I make good friends with, some are a**holes whatever their color.

          Of course the the SNP wants to pull away from the UK but they don’t want to break free completely as they still want subsidies, they want their cake and eat it. Northern Ireland was a very difficult problem for us as our troops were put in a very nasty position trying to keep the warring factions apart. Some Irish may not like us because of historical events but we didn’t deliberate;y let Irish people die during the potato famine as real history will attest to. You’re mixing with a bunch of whining losers if that’s your take on it.

          The English could complain about the Romans for invading us, the French for invading and taking over in 1066 and several other historical events when we we’re attacked first but that’s ancient history and we move on as it was forgotten a very long time ago.

          Those who dwell in the past deserve to stay in the past and that applies very much today as we’ve seen in the USA. The problems with inner city black violence over there is not due to white people its due to sperm donors impregnating black girls, running away and leaving no father figure to head the family. The recent Baltimore riots were a classic case in point, billions of dollars have been poured into that city since the 1960’s and nothing has changed. Blacks are killing other blacks at a rate of 95% and it has nothing to do with with white ‘honkys’.

          Ben Carson a top surgeon from the slums of Detroit and a black Presidential nominee for next year says it as it should be said in telling the black kids they can achieve anything they want if they work hard and stay out of trouble but no one gets a free ride. Trouble is you have race pimps like Al Sharpton stirring up trouble whenever a black male gets killed by the police before any investigation has even begun. Then of course you have the ‘rapper in chief’ sticking his nose in for political advantage causing more trouble than there was before.

          It is what is is, life isn’t fair for anyone but you have to suck it up, make something of your life and dump that rock on your shoulder. No one deserves a free ride although some ethnic minorities seem to get one and you make your own future, no one gives it to you.

    • cartimandua

      I don’t believe that girls facing having their clitoris cut off and their vulvas sewn up “look forward to it” or that they suffered no damage.
      Just to begin with Somali boys call such girls “wooden tables” because they are incapable of arousal.
      Cutting off the male foreskin is nothing like cutting off the females largest nerve bundle leaving them medical problems for life. That alone leads to fused scar tissue leading to painful intercourse and infections.
      It may explain the low IQs in some nations though. It obstructs childbirth leading to infant deaths and brain damage.

      • WTF

        Very well put and as you pointed out removing foreskin has no effect upon arousal and without it makes no real difference. I believe customs like circumcision had some validity 2 millennial ago as without adequate sanitation and personal hygiene it is quite likely having a foreskin could harbor unwanted bacteria let alone act as a breeding ground. Not eating pork was another cultural custom learned the hard way after bouts of food poisoning due to no refrigeration but its no health risk today.

        We can look at our own sanitation experiments during the Victorian period when lessons were learned the hard way over sewage disposal but the west learned and prospered from learning about proper health care & hygiene whilst these third world cess pits have learned little. Islamic scholars or apologists will be quick to point out Islamic medical or scientific learning that happened in the distant past but it didn’t last that long and most of it came from conquered races under their control.

        I suspect that in-breeding has a lot to answer for in creating psychotic Jihadists !

        • cartimandua

          As well as depleted maternal nutrition and lack of vitamin D.

      • Richard longpole

        Low IQ’s in some nations, you’re saying the mean population of the UK has a higher IQ than other nations. Based on what empirical unbiased evidence are you taking this from?
        And you tell me what country doesn’t have derogatory names for females, I believe in the UK some women are referred to as ‘slags, sluts, whores’, because they sleep around with different men, or (I believe) they are just exercising their right to live and enjoy whatever they choose to do.
        And cutting off the male foreskin is done for what reason exactly???

        • Alexsandr

          Some islamic cultures favour close marriages, like cousin marriage. When you do that over generations you get mafformed kids and reduced IQ. Look it up, its well documented.

        • BetrayedRosse

          You are a truly vile human being, a typical product of multi culturalism, black, born in this country with nothing but marxist induced simmering hatred for the white man and his culture. Rest easy because when the shit hits the fan, you won’t be a brother to islam. You truly are a moron

    • cartimandua

      Or to put it very briefly yes some cultures have practices which keep them stupid, ill, poor, and in conflict.
      If that’s what they want they should not live in the rational West and they should quite whining about the inevitable results of those customs.
      Child marriage for instance leads to overpopulation , sick infants, resource depletion etc ,as does polygamy.
      FGM is a civilization sinker. We want none of it or people who support it.

      • Richard longpole

        Stupid = reality TV, Jeremy Kyle, hooliganism. Ill = rates of heart disease, obesity, cancers. Poor = (relative to the country you live), the UK North/South divide has a massive margin when it comes to wealth. And in conflict, you don’t need a war and a gun to be in conflict, ask the Welsh or Scottish for that matter!
        If FGM is a civilisation sinker, what of pornography?

        • Alexsandr

          you dont have to look at porn. Pretty difficult to undo FGM.

        • BetrayedRosse

          If successive British governments had focussed on the death of the housing estate and british industry instead of shipping in immigrants en-masse, the reality TV generation wouldn’t exist. Unfortunately they have pissed on everyones chips for them.

          • Richard longpole

            And that has nothing to do with you. Everyone else is to blame.

    • Colonel Mustard

      “Bottom line, this country has not changed much since the National Front of the 70’s, with the only difference being, it’s acceptable to be racist!”

      Absolute nonsense. That’s the chip on your shoulder talking. There has been an incredible change in general attitudes but race huxters are creating a more divisive and polarised situation now, importing US-style racial tensions and culture wars that never existed before.

      “I hate my country”

      Yeah, we get that. Your racism too.

      • Richard longpole

        ‘Chip on my shoulder’ how very 70’s!! Nothing racist about hating a country. The change in general attitudes has moved from the 50’s where it as against the blacks and Irish. Some Cafes and restaurants in England used to have signs up saying, ‘no dogs, no blacks and no Irish’. The 60’s was supposed to be about peace and love and the UK looked across the water and saw the racial tensions in the American South with interest. 70’s was about the National Front, strikes and the poor white workers blamed ‘n*gg*rs and p*k*s’ for taking their jobs. The 80’s saw the conservative government try to give the UK more of what it had worked for, while stemming the tide of Irish terrorism. And so came the 90’s and the new millennium, and the word Muslim strikes fear into anyone who doesn’t truly understand what it means.
        As for me like I said earlier I have no religion, but I am British born and bred, and have a right to be unhappy about the ignorant attitudes of some of the English people, because it hasn’t changed.

        • Penny

          Richard, which country do you think the UK should model itself on? Or, being unhappy/disliking your own country, where would you choose to live if there were no practical barriers to you doing so?

          I’m trying to acertain if, in your mind, there is a country that doesn’t have problems of one sort or another or indeed, if there is one that is totally free of racism. I don’t think there is – but perhaps you do.

          • Richard longpole

            There isn’t. It’s not the racism, it’s the fact that the ‘system’ favours the ‘white male’. Segregation, the class system, standards of living, are favourable to the ‘white male’. Even something as simple as an IQ test is designed to favour the White western culture. In effect therefore what has the ‘white male’ really had to fight for? Acceptance? Freedom? Democracy?
            Having been born here, I find at times like an alien in my own country, I’m not accepted (by some) and freedom has been denied (as mentioned earlier) because of my colour. And democracy? I believe the UK government want to pull out of the Human Rights agreement.

            At least in, say Canada or Germany I am an alien.

          • Alexsandr

            Yes well sometimes us white makes feel the same. welcome to 2015. Get a grip and accept the UK for what it is, or find somewhere where you will be happy.
            If you keep this up you will just get stomach ulcers.

          • BetrayedRosse

            The system favours the white male – possibly because, at least currently there’s more of them? Its not rocket science you pathetic bleating have not

          • Richard longpole

            And what about the Mandarins…..? The Asians. You’re an idiot, you should be on reality TV.

        • BetrayedRosse

          The only ignorant Brit here seems to be you

    • The_greyhound

      “I once dated a girl who had been castrated.”

      Bruce Jenner?

      • BetrayedRosse

        He’s clearly gay.

    • Kevin T

      If that is your attitude to FGM then please don’t wait for a far right government, leave now. We don’t want your culture, thanks.

      • Richard longpole

        I’m British born and bred, so what culture are you saying.

        • Kevin T

          I don’t care. Go away and take the people, British born and bred, who think Jimmy Savile didn’t do anything wrong, with you.

    • Alexsandr

      if you hate your country, leave now. No-one is making you stay.

    • Phyllyp Sparowe

      Which one would you go to Richard? I’d like to know this better place.

  • FedUpIndian

    Did you know an anagram of “Allah ho akbar” is “Oh! A halal bark” ?

  • rightrightright

    The Indy article on the missing girls forced into marriage blames society for their fate. That’s us. Nothing to do with Islam, then and no comments allowed.

  • WTF

    I had to laugh/choke in a sick sort of way reading the article about the terrorist act in Chattanooga, TN when the ‘rapper in chief’ orders a probe into what happened. The whole world knows what happened, why it happened and who to blame.

    Of course the Fort Hood massacre of 13 people by a Muslim in 2009 had nothing to do with Islam as I’m sure this latest one has nothing to do with Islam. Cameron, Obama, Hollande, when will these leaders wake up and be honest instead of lying and appeasing Islam. Its a malignant tumor that needs to be cut out !!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3164129/Chattanooga-gunman-Muhammad-Abdulazeez-killed-four-marines-one-critical.html

    • Perplexed

      And now the Chattanooga killiings. They coincide with the end of Ramadan and the beginning of Eid.
      But are obviously nothing to do with it.

      • WTF

        Yep, there’s a s*** load of web footed biped birds walking around the place crapping on everyone but despite quacking a lot, there aren’t ducks according to our leaders !

  • Marcussmod

    Excellent Article Mr Liddle. You are one of the few journalists who tells it like it is.

  • jkings

    If we are gonna be kafir, lets be the best kafir we can be. Let us pray for our enemies that they may know who God really is and what he doesn’t want to blow up. Let us pray for them to see that Satan has an apartment inside their hearts and minds and that explains their actions well. It is frustrating beyond words yes, it is true. But the Devil is said to be a true professional at ruining people. I dont hate Muslims, I see them as people who are being mislead. I feel bad for people who have walked into, or have become ensnared in a trap of doing things and believing things that are contrary to God’s will. Islam speaks of Allah, but it also speaks of a man that I dont trust, as being Allah’s messenger. The man could do what he wanted, say what he wanted, and if anyone had an issue he could declare them an enemy of God. This doesnt work for me. It worked for him at the time. Too bad now here we all are. Sad face. Bless your eneimes and pray that they turn away from this evil.

  • cartimandua

    The other day a Muslim chap spoke online what appeared to be emollient and rational things. People said what a nice chap.
    Until one noticed he was saying Muslims have the right to worship their “one true God”.
    He didn’t even recognized the awful supremacism in that statement.

    • Perplexed

      Cartimandua, ‘supremacism’ — the feeling that the ‘jamaat’ of believers is God’s chosen people and they are carrying out the will of Allah — is absolutely central to Sunni Islam. ‘Kafir’ (related to the word to swear) are by definition unequal and inferior even if some are less objectionable than others.
      This is one reason why the leaders of the Western world were so very stupid from the 1990s onwards to treat Islamists in the Muslim world as friends and political allies, secularised Muslims, and nationalists and leftists as expendable. It was Red Riding Hood sucking up to the wolf.
      Now our leaders pretty much see the problem but can’t think what they can do about it. To me the nuclear deal with Iran is probably a step in the right direction because the worst danger lies in the Arabian peninsula.

      • cartimandua

        iran built Bushehr on the confluence of 3 tectonic plates using Russian tech against all scientific advice including Iranian scientific advice.
        The risk is a seismic accident they will blame on someone else.

  • Kazuhiro Shino

    There’s unfound equitable barometer but which doesn’t exist our 20th century obsolete frame work all establishment is state of “stray sheep situation following the protocol which is scattering new virus current 5 year span electoral system can not reconstitute viable 21st century frame work 21st century is weird era everyone knows something very wrong but convoluted social relativity is consisted by layers of abstract & no social mechanism reinvent sound orchestration

  • wudyermucuss

    Dear Islamist (nothing to do with Islam) peace lover,

    Many thanks for your missive.
    The Islamophobia you so graphically described sounds utterly horrific.
    I hope you received treatment for the resulting PTSD and the highest rate of DLA for you and your many large peaceloving families.

    Your head cutting aspirations sound fascinating!So vibrant!Of course,many Islamophobes will condemn your activities,while tucking into their chicken dinner which of course has been decapitated,and worse.
    Typical western hypocrisy which thankfully is rapidly decreasing as the influence of the peace,love and wisdom of Islam increases and we all begin to realize that we are basically here to submit.

    Please,do feel absolutely free to return should your decapitaion enterprise fail.
    You will be welcomed back gleefully and should you have enlargened your family further,we can obviously accomodate them all.

    Grovellingly,delusionally,scared,
    K

  • “I’m off to join Islamic State. See ya, kafirs!”

    Coming from a Marxist rag such as The Spectator, why am I not surprised?

    Approximately 20% of the Marxist front group Islamic [sic] State are Ukraine Ground Forces (UGF) posing as Islamic [sic] State, the UGF mission in Iraq being to cut Iraq’s oil exports–once American ground forces return to Iraq–for the purpose of assisting Russia’s oil based economy, thereby allowing Russia to complete her military modernization program. The Marxist governments of the West and Marxist media* are spinning the reality of what’s taking place in the Ukraine and Iraq, where in the Ukraine the anti-Communist Ukrainian people are waging a war against the Marxist Kiev government and mis-named “Ukrainian separatists” who are really Russian Spetsnaz/Guards Airborne troops assisting the Marxist Kiev government suppress the anti-Communist revolution raging throughout the Ukraine. The revolution could only have occurred thanks to the weakened security apparatus within the Ukraine, where a critical number of Ukraine Ground Forces are currently in Iraq preparing to assist Russia’s oil based economy by destroying Iraq’s oil production.

    With the weakened Marxist security throughout the Ukraine, due to the UGF presence in Iraq, the Ukrainian population destroyed, to date, over 700 statues to the reviled Vladimir Lenin, and other Marxist “heroes”, statues that were supposed to have been destroyed in 1991 if the collapse of the USSR were real and not the strategic ruse it is. Currently approximately 1,400 statues to the butcher of Ukrainian nationalism/Orthodoxy remain standing throughout the Ukraine, rubbing salt into the wounds of every non-Marxist Ukrainian (95% of the population) that is forced to view such monuments to the infamous butcher.

    Russian regular forces are also in the eastern Ukraine (attired in UGF uniforms) fighting the Ukrainian freedom fighters, losing to combat operations approximately 25,000 soldiers, which is why on January 2 Vladimir Putin was ordered by his superiors in the Russian Communist Party to sign a four-year old piece of legislation that allows foreigners who speak Russian to join the Russian military…

    http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-foreigners-serving-in-military/26779601.html

    The following is a discovery I made last month regarding the fake collapse of the USSR…

    When Soviet citizens were liberated from 74 years of Marxist oppression on December 26, 1991 there were ZERO celebrations throughout the USSR, proving (1) the “collapse” of the USSR was a strategic ruse; and (2) the political parties of the West were already co-opted by Marxists, otherwise the USSR (and East Bloc nations) couldn’t have gotten away with the ruse.

    ZERO celebrations, as the The Atlantic article inadvertently informs us…

    http://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2011/12/20-years-since-the-fall-of-the-soviet-union/100214/

    For more on this discovery see my blog…

    https://sites.google.com/site/deanjackson60/

    Conclusion:

    The West will form new political parties where candidates are vetted for Marxist ideology, the use of the polygraph to be an important tool for such vetting. Then the West can finally liberate the globe of vanguard Communism.

    ————————-

    *The failed socialist inspired and controlled pan-European revolutions that swept the continent in 1848 thought Marxists and socialists a powerful lesson, that lesson being they couldn’t win overtly, so they adopted the tactic of infiltration of the West’s political parties/institutions. In the case of the United States…(continue reading at DNotice)…

    https://sites.google.com/site/deanjackson60/now-you-see-me-now-you-don-t

    Now you know why not one political party in the West requested verification of the collapse of the USSR, and the media failed to alert your attention to this fact, including the “alternative” media. When determining whether the “former” USSR is complying with arms control treaties, what does the United States do to confirm compliance? Right, the United States sends into the “former” USSR investigative teams to VERIFY compliance, yet when it’s the fate of the West that’s at stake should the collapse of the USSR be a ruse, what does the United States do to confirm the collapse? Nothing!

    The fraudulent “collapse” of the USSR (and East Bloc) couldn’t have been pulled off until both political parties in the United States (and political parties elsewhere in the West) were co-opted by Marxists, which explains why verification of the “collapse” was never undertaken by the West, such verification being (1) a natural administrative procedure (since the USSR wasn’t occupied by Western military forces); and (2) necessary for the survival of the West. Recall President Reagan’s favorite phrase, “Trust, but verify”.

    It gets worse–the “freed” Soviets and West also never (1) de-Communized the Soviet Armed Forces of its Communist Party officer corps, which was 90% officered by Communist Party members; and (2) arrested/de-mobilized the 6-million vigilantes that assisted the Soviet Union’s Ministry of the Interior and police control the populations of the larger cities during the period of “Perestroika” (1986-1991)!

    There can be no collapse of the USSR (or East Bloc nations) without…

    Verification, De-Communization and De-mobilization.

    The West never verified the collapse of the USSR because no collapse occurred, since if a real collapse had occurred the West would have verified it, since the survival of the West depends on verification. Conversely, this proves that the political parties of the West were co-opted by Marxists long before the fraudulent collapse of the USSR, since the survival of the West depends on verification.

    The above means that the so-called “War on Terror” is an operation being carried out by the Marxist co-opted governments of the West in alliance with the USSR and other Communist nations, the purpose being to (1) destroy the prominence of the West in the eyes of the world, where the West is seen (i) invading nations without cause; (ii) causing chaos around the globe; and (iii) killing over one-million civilians and boasting of torture; (2) close off non-Russian supplies of oil for export, thereby increasing the price of oil, the higher price allowing oil exporting Russia to maintain economic stability while she modernizes and increases her military forces; (3) destroy the United States Armed Forces via the never-ending “War on Terror”; the ultimate purpose of the aforementioned to (4) bring about the demise of the United States in the world, opening up a political void to be filled by a new pan-national entity composed of Europe and Russia (replacing the European Union), a union “From the Atlantic to Vladivostok”; which will (5) see the end of NATO.

    Now you know how Bolshevik Russia survived in 1917; how the West “lost” China to the Communists in 1949; why the Eisenhower administration turned a deaf ear to the anti-Communist Hungarian uprising in 1956; why the Eisenhower administration in 1959 was indifferent to the Castro brothers’ Communist fidelity, actually used the CIA to overthrow the Batista government; why the Nixon administration abandoned Taiwan for Communist China, and signed treaties/provided economic aid to the USSR; why the Nixon administration refused to tell the American People that over 50% of North Vietnamese NVA regiments were actually Chinese People’s Liberation Army soldiers (attired in NVA uniforms, and proving that the Sino/Soviet Split was a ruse, as KGB defector Major Anatoliy Golitsyn told the West back in 1962), thereby (1) ensuring the Vietnam War would be lost; (2) destroying the prominence of the United States abroad and at home; (3) breeding distrust between the American people and their government; and (4) securing Communist victories in Southeast Asia. Working in the background within the political parties of the United States and Great Britain were Marxist agents doing their best to (1) ensure the survival of Communist nations when they popped up; and (2) sabotage any policies that would bring down a Communist nation. That’s why after the fake collapses of the East Bloc nations and USSR there was no mandatory Western verification process to ensure the Communists weren’t still in control.

    • Perplexed

      Have you taken your medicine dear?

      • “Have you taken your medicine dear?”

        I did. I took the red pill Morpheus offered me, which allows me to see a picture of Lenin’s head and four Soviet nationality emblems next to the masthead of the Russian Ministry of Defense’s official newspaper, which is STILL called “Red Star”…

        http://www.redstar.ru/

        I’m also now capable of seeing the Communist Party of the Soviet Union’s emblem–the distinctive Soviet Red Star emblem–still on Russian military aircraft and naval vessels…

        http://www.airliners.net/photo/Russia—Air/Sukhoi-Su-25SM/1606418/L/

        http://flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com/2013/06/08/9225/

        I also see the thousands of hated statues to Lenin still standing in Russian cities, towns and villages…

        http://www.saint-petersburg.com/monuments/ploshchad-lenina/

        The red pill also allows one to comprehend the meaning of the following…

        ‘The West never verified the collapse of the USSR because no collapse occurred, since if a real collapse had occurred the West would have verified it, since the survival of the West depends on verification. Conversely, this proves that the political parties of the West were co-opted by Marxists long before the fraudulent collapse of the USSR, since the survival of the West depends on verification.’

        …and…

        ‘When Soviet citizens were liberated from 74 years of Marxist oppression on December 26, 1991 there were ZERO celebrations throughout the USSR, proving (1) the “collapse” of the USSR was a strategic ruse; and (2) the political parties of the West were already co-opted by Marxists, otherwise the USSR (and East Bloc nations) couldn’t have gotten away with the ruse.’

        Would you like me to ask Morpheus to contact you, so that you too may take the red pill and disconnect yourself from the Matrix?

        • rj

          flippin ‘eck

    • BetrayedRosse

      One day you’re going to copy and paste a recipe for Goat and quinoa truffles and paste that here you know that don;t you?

      • “One day you’re going to copy and paste a recipe for Goat and quinoa truffles and paste that here you know that don;t you?”

        Could be, if I become interested in the culinary fine arts, and if I do the cut & paste job will also be 100% mine, as is everything else I post.

        • BetrayedRosse

          Its yours, no question, you just post the identical thing relentlessly. I could recite that by heart I’ve seen it so many times.

          • “Its yours, no question…”

            I said it’s mine… ‘will also be 100% mine, as is everything else I post.’

            “I could recite that by heart I’ve seen it so many times.”

            Good, now tell others. That’s the point of my posts: To educate readers that the West was long ago co-opted by Marxists, which is why (1) the West never liberated one Communist nation; and (2) when the USSR faked its collapse in 1991 the West didn’t verify the collapse, even though the survival of the West depends on verification.

  • Diogo Desiderati

    There are 2 kinds of muslins: Jihadists and colonists. The Quran has one single objective: spread the Islam. When you analyse history, you see a clear pattern, specially in Asia: Muslins have created their empires trough weapons or the cultural hijacking. The first is obvious and had it’s share of success. But the second is so slow and sneaky that it goes unnoticed. That’s what has happened to many originally buddhist and hinduist countries. The muslins came, refused to merge in the local culture and pushed their on beliefs. Within a century or so they became part of the environment and, now, you can look at many places in Asia where even the buddhist were pushed so far that they are, believe it or not, resorting to violence and extremism to try and protect their practices and cultural identity.
    Any similarity with what’s going on in Europe is NOT a coincidence. The Islam is a religion of dominance, trough peace or trough war, but dominance, always.

    Why are Buddhist monks attacking Muslims?
    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22356306

    In Sweden, the Land of the Open Door, Anti-Muslim Sentiment Finds a Foothold
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/03/world/in-sweden-the-land-of-the-open-door-anti-muslim-sentiment-finds-a-foothold.html

    • Richard longpole

      I see and British Colonialism was what???

      • Kevin T

        Cultural relativism. Don’t you just love liberals.

      • WTF

        Relatively benign in comparison but that was then, this is now. You Islamist apologists keep harping back to the past rather than look at the present and see what the future may hold for all of us under a fascists Islamic state !

        • Richard longpole

          That’s right, sweep history under the table and hope to god it doesn’t come back and bite you in the arse. There will never ever be a fascist Islamic state here, but you act like a bully turned coward, when the oppressors become the oppressed!
          You are more likely to suffer under the weight of your own frightened little paranoia than any religious or extremist nonsense, but I suppose that’s what fear does to you.

          • WTF

            I’m not trying to sweep history under the table unlike our politicians as I believe you can learn a lot from history and if you choose to, not make the same mistakes twice, but since you want to talk history, lets go and do it.

            The UK for 90% of its existence since the birth of Christ has been a benign country uninterested in what was happening elsewhere around the globe and certainly not interested in colonization through force or making war on some dumb s*** religious grounds or any other dumb grounds.

            Muslims under Islam has for 1400 years since Big Mo appeared, waged a religious war across two thirds of the inhabited planet expanding outwards from the Middle East to colonize the Indian sub continent, most parts of Asia & Africa and if memory serves me correctly they even made it to western Europe as far as Poitiers in France. Western countries only fought back when those crazed nutters were threatening our very culture and were finally kicked back to North Africa. The Christian Crusades were only retrieving what was ours as Muzzies through history have lots of form for stealing from others.

            Seems to me they are the real bullies, using force to take over a very large chunk of real estate and then imposing a convert, pay blackmail or be killed rule of law and they’re at it right now in various guises across the globe.

            If you check history, Britain’s short 200 year of colonial power was very different as it wasn’t a religious colonization it was all about trade and protecting our trade routes against Spain, France and the Netherlands.
            That was why we had troops in most outposts around the world. to protect our global trade. Its telling that during our relatively short time of ‘ruling’ India, it took a minuscule amount of British troops to keep order who could easily have been killed had the local populace wished it but it never happened. All previous colonies were subsequently given self rule and only Kenya had any significant terrorist actions against the British. There must have been something very different in the way we managed large populations in our former colonies compared to the blood letting that Muslims are carrying out right now in their genocidal wars.

            Why is that I wonder, any thoughts, something to do with that cancerous religion ?

            The real point being is that Muslims made clear in the early 1900’s they wanted to create a world wide caliphate under Sharia law and they started off by killing 1 million Armenians for a ‘practice’ run in the 1920’s I think. All the rhetoric and actions today by Muslims in power suggest nothing has changed and just listen to Anjem Chowdary because you’re in denial over the facts.

            I’m not scared of Muzzies that want to take over my country as sooner or later they’ll be a backlash against the Jihadist among us and for the indigenous Americans (including Indians) living in the USA, Jihadists over there don’t stand a chance against a well armed nation. Its gratifying to see that so far most terrorists there have been taken down on the spot or are due for execution unlike the UK.

            Fear of Islam is not my problem, stupidity and appeasement by others affecting my security is my problem !

          • Richard longpole

            I agree with much of what you say, however I would add that in order to make a true comparison to Muslims you need to substitute British colonisation with Christian colonisation. In that regard the Native Americans were subjected to the violence associated with Christian indoctrination. There is also the simple truth that the British Empire succeeded largely by ignoring the cultures of the countries they invaded. They imposed English law, Christian religion and language with complete disregard to local customs, such was their arrogance.
            I don’t have the exact figures but I also believe that Christianity is still the largest religion in the world. This is a religion that has only recently accepted women into the clergy, despite having an appealing history in its violence towards women.
            If religion, Muslim or otherwise were not involved we would be having a very different conversation. Which is why I will find posthumously funny when i discover there is nothing, no heaven or hell, 72 virgins, Allah, or any other after life, it’s just death!

          • WTF

            We constantly hear about all the wrong doing that was carried out by western colonists over relatively short historical periods but compared to 1400 years of Islamic colonization, its like comparing apples and pears, they are not the same.

            No one disagrees that the Native American Indians were killed by Europeans nor South American Indians by the Spanish & Portuguese or that Britain applied our civil laws and customs but we also embraced many of theirs.

            Hint – Curries, but by and large they learned a lot from us and in many cases they benefited from it. Indian civil law is based on UK law luckily for them unlike in neighboring Pakistan where its Sharia law. Ask any Indian in the UK as I have how they view UK’s rule of India and by and large they consider it benign and helped develop them as a nation after we left. Compared to the tribalism they had before, it became a coherent country if you exclude Islamic elements.

            As for your “an appealing (appalling I guess) history in its violence towards women” with reference towards Christianity, once again its that inconvenient word “history” that you are obsessed with. Women didn’t get the vote in the UK until 1918 but globally women had few rights compared to men so Christianity was not alone in this. Islam still treats women as second class citizens as do other cultures around the world.

            As I’ve repeatedly said, we don’t forget history but neither should we be so obsessed with it like you seem to be, that you want to relive it every time just to make an irrelevant point in 2015.

            What was done back then was wrong, we have fessed up to it, but are you after some penance from us for the sins of our great, great grandfathers, as it sounds very much like it. Deal with today’s issues, you can’t change the past but it would help if you remove that chip on your shoulder.

          • BetrayedRosse

            You know what colonialism did? It went to backward countries, built cities, irrigated land, educated people, taught them to live outside tribal law etc etc… then what happened? We gave these places their independence and they turned right back into the tribal, backward places we made good, with the exception of India, maybe… Our great towns and cities, our society, our laws, our civilised way of life. That wasn’t built by Africans, that wasn’t inspired by Muslim countries and now we have allowed such people to come in and take it all apart before our very eyes.

      • Dan O’Connor

        I know you Lefty drive by hit and run one-liner artists
        We won’t be seeing you again.

        Oh I see . You want Muslims to be a pay back punishment against all of our children’s children for generations to come for the real or imaginary sins of our ancestors
        You tart it up with cutsey names like ” diversity “and
        ” cultural enrichment ”
        How do you suggest Muslims should be collectively punished for without provocation invading and colonising Europe twice , and occupying 1/5th of the planet and exterminating 200 million infidel
        ( Christians, Jews , Hindus, Buddhists , Sikhs , and Africans ) in the process ?
        Or do they get a free pass because they are seen as not being White ?

        • Richard longpole

          ‘Imaginary sins’ trying saying that to the Welsh, or the Scottish or the Irish. and as you so eloquently tarnish all Muslims, let’s not forget what Christianity has done to further its cause in the name of religion. Killed millions, branded knowledgable women as witches for well over 100 years. Yet you push this all to one side like it doesn’t matter. These are YOUR ancestors.
          The free world that you so enjoy, wasn’t built on fairness and democracy. It was divide and conquer, all you’re getting is a taste if what it’s like to live in fear of that.

          • BetrayedRosse

            What about Nelson Mandela and his complicity in the deaths of 20,000 black opponents in South Africa?

          • Brogan75

            Exactly ‘was’. Crusades were 800 years ago, muslims are stuck at 1400 years ago. So if it’s divide and conquer, do we have the right to avoid this re-conquest from the muzzies and send them back from OUR LANDS to their caves? I guess so. We did it at Poitiers, Lepanto, Wien. We can do it again.

      • vieuxceps2

        Same as Dutch, French, Belgian,Danish, German,Russian,Austrian. Spanish, Portuguese, Egyptian, Roman, Mongol,Persian, Greek,Arab Turkish,Assyrian,Aztec,Incan,well almost everbody really. That’s what it was.Didn’t you realise that?

        • Richard longpole

          So if everyone in history has done it at some point, it just happens to be the turn of the Muslims. Just get on with it.

          • WTF

            And likewise we have every right to fight back against it with force and if government wont do it, people will do it themselves.

          • vieuxceps2

            Oh No Dick Long’un.No intention of “getting on with it.” The lesser breeds without the law will not win. They are too schismatic. As one might term it, shit and shite.

          • Brogan75

            or fight back, or they get offended?

      • WTF

        Compared to most European colonial countries it was relatively benign and if you exclude that Islamic cess pot of the middle east when we left, those ex UK colonies were in pretty good shape.

      • Phyllyp Sparowe

        Transitory.

      • Johnny Foreigner

        Are you some sort of fugging nutter? You write uneducated, distorted historical bollox. You are a bore, as well as proffering false equivalence.

    • WTF

      A bit like locusts, they strip the land bare and then whine about their predicament before moving off to somewhere else to ravage !

  • Scradje

    Someone will call Rod’s article a ‘hate’ piece sooner or later. It isn’t, but I would tend to differ from the teachings of Jesus Christ on this issue I’m sorry to say. We should indeed hate our enemies, especially throwbacks like Isil. Indeed if its murdererous adherents were to receive a ‘Wicker Man’-type treatment, I might feel inclined to join in the dancing and singing.

  • Mr Grumpy

    Surely you meant to write “I’m really worried this Tim Farron may be a bit of a nutter, I mean he prays and stuff”, Rod?

    • Liberanos

      Talking to invisible dead people…and receiving replies…is rather close to mental illness I’d have thought.

  • Liberanos

    You can’t say our local mosque isn’t trying to integrate. They’ve had well-attended gardening and hairdressing classes for some time.

  • Mannheimer

    Well written. Sadly, it’s true.

  • smoke me a kipper

    Rod Liddle you are an effing idiot

    • WTF

      Why, if you’re going to throw an insult at least have the courtesy of backing it up with facts instead of behaving like a lib~~~tard !

      • smoke me a kipper

        Read the article all the evidence to support my comment is contained within it

        • WTF

          Rod Liddles satirical lampooning of the ludicrous party line given out by the establishment is in the grand old institution of Punch rather than being a effing idiot as you put it.

          Everything we’re spoon fed by appeasers like Cameron is BS and the country knows it. Clearly you don’t understand the concept of ridicule masqueraded as praise to get the point across !

          • smoke me a kipper

            I understand Liddle’s attempted satire, however it’s just not funny. In fact if that’s his best effort he should look for another job

          • WTF

            Its called black humor and funny or not is purley subjective !

  • Dan O’Connor

    Muslims are just natures way of telling us that mass immigration of non-European competing alien peoples and cultures is a very, very, very bad idea.
    It is a violation of the unchanging and timeless rules and laws that lay outside of man and beyond his powers to change them, and nature hits back and destroys with a venegance those who break these unwritten rules.
    Nature is amoral . It does not care about the ” noble ” and the ” good “. All it cares about is who is having the most babies.
    Leftists / LIberals ” anti-racists ” believe nature went on permanent vacation after the 60’s flower power hippy movement and Woodstock.

    • Richard longpole

      Then why the hell don’t all those Brits who call themselves ex-pats, take their sorry little selves and their language back to their own country.

      Oh but no. Sorry I forgot, because of the days of colonialism Britons have a free pass to go anywhere they like.

      • vieuxceps2

        Well, Longpole, you are “British”. Why don’t you go too?

        • Richard longpole

          I’m still here, but getting bored!

          • vieuxceps2

            Then go,old chap, go.

          • WTF

            Whats that expression “All talk and no trousers”

      • WTF

        Why should they !

        Expats in Spain integrate for the most part and learn the language but also young Spaniards are eager to learn English from us to give them greater work opportunities. The ex-pats bring with them in excess of 300k euros to buy a property and live off their UK funded pensions. Spain needs them and in or out of the EU they would hardly kick out a cash cow. Even their medical costs are funded from the UK so its a win-win for ex-pats and the Spanish economy. Its a win-win for both !

        In contrast a disease ridden family from the third world would bring to the UK nothing but costs to the tax payer. Healthcare, education, housing, translators which for a family would run at 50k per annum.

        Ex-pats pay out 25-50k per annum to their host country.

        Do the maths as wherever ex-pats have moved, they are paying the host country. All of the UK’s immigrants are costing us dear in money, culture and in some cases health issues like TB and mental/physical disabilities from in-breeding !

        Thats a lose-lose for the UK as it costs a fortune,they don’t integrate and they bring Jihadists and disease to the country.

    • TrueNorthFree

      “All it cares about is who is having the most babies.”
      Whites are losing the demographic wars in all White countries and Muslims are dropping litters of babies.
      Very bluntly, Whites need to start having more White babies.

  • Dan O’Connor

    The natural and righteous moral code for our people .
    What is good for Whites ( British, French, Danish , Swedish, Europeans ect ect ) is good , and that which is bad for us is bad.
    The only fitting definition of morality is being able to recognise that which is benefical or destructive to those things nearest to us –ourselves, our family , our community , nation ( the family writ large ) , ethnic / racial group , culture and civilization . These things create a series of concentric circles around us and depend upon each other in an interlinked symbiotic relationship for their continued existence.
    The wolf cannot survive without the pack , and the pack cannot survive without the wolf .
    Muslims and Africans are natures way of punishing Whites for allowing themselves to be hoodwinked into jetisoning the most nature ordaineds and foremost instinct known to man , which is the instinct for group self preservation and replacing it with a series of hyper moralism, hysterical egalitarianism and sentimentalized intellectual abstractions taken to extremes
    The West has got itself into one hell of a mess and we have cursed future generations of our off-spring with much pain and suffering for centuries to come

    • Richard longpole

      Of course the yin yang philosophy of the Chinese which make up a quite a large population of this world would see this as laughable.
      Being fair……how about the persecution of the Native Indians of America, bringing diseases from Europe, wiping out vast settlements, and the saying sorry and giving them back a fractional percentage of what was taken. Europeans!!
      Who stands to make the most by plundering the Easts natural resource like oil…..Europeans (including native)
      Who benefits from Africa’s gold on the stock market….Europeans (including native).

      Europeans have plundered and pillaged the world for centuries and only now are they looking around and living in fear because of their wanton destruction.

      Take a long hard look at what is really going on, what is still going on, and what will continue long after your dead.

      Who knows, maybe in a few years the Chinese will have DNA in every single human being!

      • vieuxceps2

        Ah, Longpole. Still here then? Thought you didn’t like life in England?

      • BetrayedRosse

        Still touting that old DNA nonsense

      • Picquet

        ^Canadians and Americans mostly, in fact.

      • WTF

        The Gulf States seem to do very well for themselves from oil revenues and its a pity they don’t pay the going rate for protecting their status quo plus hand some of their oil revenues to disadvantaged Palestinians.

        Trouble is the ‘rag heads’ in that region just look after No 1 and ignore the plight of their fellow Muslims. Jews are certainly not like that and neither were Christians during the crusades when many Christian countries went to war against the death cult that had stolen their lands.

      • RufusChoate

        Study a little history of destructive path of pathogens and you will be surprised to discover that most pathogens originate in the populace centers of Asia. Smallpox (which was the principle plague that decimated the Indigenous (originating in Asia) Americans originated in Prehistory in Asia.

        The knowledge of epidemiology did not exist in the 17th and 18th Centuries to protect primitives but their lifespan increased by nearly a whole decade by the 18th Century.

        What you are essentially complaining about is the perennial outcome of advanced civilizations encountering the primitive. The Native American and African cultures were in complete stasis operating on the Neolithic and early Iron Age level for tens of thousand of years. They were ripe plums ready to fall off the rotten tree. The Islamic world had a considerable longer history of exploitation in Africa than Europeans.

        If the Chinese had taken to sea faring discovery the outcome for both continent would have been the same only worse because it would have been the Mongol Chinese Dynasties that did the exploitation and not Christians.

        • Richard longpole

          I’m sure you had a point, but I kinda of lost you when you I said I was “essentially complaining about, etc, etc”. You’ve made many assumptions one of them being the Europeans dragged the rest of the world (so the U.S. Would believe) out the dark ages. Who’s to say evolution would not have taken this course had Europeans not intervened with the slaughter of thousands of indigenous populations all in the name of ‘discovery’. The Europeans should have stayed where they were but that’s my opinion.
          It is a well worn saying, but in order to move forward you have to step back. If you want to know why there is a fear of Muslims or Chinese or any other race, religion, or population, look at what has happened in the past. This may well be the age of the military, of technological advances and the World Police, but change is inevitable. Get used to it, some of us already have!

          • RufusChoate

            No worries I wasn’t really addressing you anyway because at you ration core you know the truth but it is politically inconvenient and unprofitable to drop the air of perpetually offended brown and red people. It is a coping mechanism.

            You’re funny because you apparently belong to a failed culture or civilization that believes that failed civilizations should be preserved indefinitely while a successful civilization that survived and thrived while it was under constant murderous attacks from the fall of the Rome Empire to the fall of Granada in 1492 by barbarians from the steppes of Asia and the deserts of Arabia under Islam should apologize for saving the failed civilizations (you value) from backwardness and barbarity.

            Indians and Africans didn’t free themselves from slavery or barbarity they were lifted out it by the hard at times beneficence of Europeans and as I said the world would be a far worse place if either Islam or the Mongols became the predominant civilization in the world.

    • vieuxceps2

      I exclude myself from the “we” which you use. I take no pleasure in watching Enoch Powell being proved right.

      • Picquet

        I do. Should I hand myself in to the thought police?

        • vieuxceps2

          No need. You have no doubt been reported already.

  • rtj1211

    Perhaps if Mr Liddle and his community of Islamophobes experienced an ‘operation shock n awe’ on the dive he lives in in South East London, he would learn what being on the wrong end of western military hardware is truly like.

    Our nations are NOT well-meaning, deluded souls. They are run by brutal, warmongering, avaricious, control freak psychopaths, just as Islamic states are as well. The only difference is we murder millions around the world to enrich the rich at the expense of Joe Public (who pays for the wars benefitting the rich), whereas Islamic States still go around killing a few hundred thousand in their own countries for whatever reason you choose to name.

    How many millions of Westerners have been murdered by Islamic campaigns equivalent to Operation Shock N Awe? How many children in the USA and the UK have been napalmed to death by Iranian Theocratic war machines??

    WELL????

    Well, when the answer is 2.5 million plus, THEN we can call all Muslims savages.

    I’ve no doubt the Muslim warmongers are savages, racists, psychopaths, sexual deviants and closet homosexuals to boot. I’ve no doubt their recruits are too. So were lots of low-level Nazis in the 1930s and low-level colonial officers in the British Empire who fancied a bit of indiginous pussy whilst telling the world how mentally subnormal all black people were…………

    The only questions worth addressing is whether Western psychopaths are exactly the same, not in their self-righteous propagandising like this and many other articles but in the murdering they commit over 75 years in Vietnam, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Central America etc etc etc; and whether downtrodden, utterly powerless people living in Muslim lands are anything significantly different to decent, downtrodden Joe Schmo mothers and fathers in the West trying to bring up children in worlds driven solely by trying to make them hate other powerless, downtrodden peoples sufficiently to convince them to go and kill each other for the enrichment of rich elites??

    The time has come for the powerless of all nations to say ‘Enough’s enough’. It doesn’t make them socialists, it makes them people who know that inculcation of hatred is no longer acceptable, it being the strategy of discredited elites of all colours, in the UK, the US, Russia, China, the Middle East, Africa, South America etc etc etc.

    It’s not about economics, it’s about murdering. It’s about death squads. It’s about military-industrial complexes promoting warfare forever to sell bombs, guns, fighter jets, drones, biological weapons, chemical weapons, nuclear weapons, remote plane-flying technology etc etc.

    As soon as people say I am appeasing Islam by saying this I say this: send your own children to war. All of you. Starting with you Mr Liddle. Your children, Mr Blair’s children, Mr Duncan-Smith’s children, Fraser Nelson’s Children, Boris Johnson’s children, Jeb Bush’ children, Guy Verhofstadt’s chiildren etc etc etc.

    Pay for all the weaponry from Tony Blair’s estate, Boris Johnson’s wealth, Jeb Bush’ wealth, Bill Clinton’s wealth, Nat Rotschild’s wealth etc etc etc.

    Bankrupt that bunch of yobboes paying for their silly wars. Let their children die fighting their silly wars.

    95 – 99% of people on this earth want nothing to do with this rubbish, be they christian, atheist, Muslim, buddhist, Jewish, a follow of Shinto or whatever ever cult people might have ever called a religion.

    It’s all about the psychotc psychopaths running every damn country. Obsessed with their own egos. Addicted to BDSM dominance dungeon sex fantasies. Prepared to murder hundreds of thousands to effect regime change, ‘privatisations’ and other mechanisms to misappropriate billions in wealth. Etc etc etc.

    Until you address the root cause, all this Islamophobia gets us nowhere.

    What you want is Western corporations killing across the globe for billions. That’s what Ukraine is all about. That’s what Greece will be all about. Then it will be Italy, Spain and France. Rape of national economies by the global elite.

    Address that, Mr Liddle. Address it now and do it without being thrown out of British journalism.

    Now there’s a challenge for you……………

    • Picquet

      What an angry person. I suspect the Tesco checkout lassie tried to chat to you, didn’t she? The vile Whore.

      • Perplexed

        I think you ought to recognize that disastrous miscalculations and interference by the West — supporting extremists and invasions in Afghanistan, then smashing Iraq, and finally the lunatic proxy war in Syria, so absurdly praised by Cameron and Hague– caused massive suffering and destabilized the world of Islam. Do you think that ISIL and Nusrat would exist if Syria and Iraq had been left as they were in 2002? Do you think that Jihadism in Britain and other places would have a fraction of its present appeal?

        • Clive

          I hate to upset a good rant with facts but 9/11 – organised by Al Qaeda – happened in 2001.

          In his suicide video, Shehzad Tanweer – who was one of the perpetrators of the 7/7/2005 attacks in London – said You have those who have voted in your government who in turn have and still continue to this day continue to oppress our mothers, children, brothers and sisters from the east to the west in Palestine … Iraq and Chechnya
          http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/oct/15/terrorism.alqaida1

          The ‘Palestine problem’ dates from 1948 and the Chechen wars – which have created many other suicide bombers, many of them women http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/mar/29/black-widows-women-moscow-bombings http://news.sky.com/story/1327867/captured-is-suicide-bomber-reveals-threat – started in 1994

          Were you being ironic generally ?

          • Perplexed

            And what were Saddam and Iraq to do with 9/11? Nothing whatsoever in my view.

            As for 9/11, El Qaeda was clearly linked to the collapse of Afghanistan as a relatively secular entity as a result of US encouragement of radical Islam there — on the advice of its Saudi friends.

            The Palestine problem is indeed another factor which doesn’t help — as are Likud’s policies of smashing the Arab world into small bits. I didn’t mention it because there seems to be no calm middle of the road way of talking about it.

            Is it likely that the dynamics of the Middle East could possibly have remained the same after what happened to Iraq and Syria?

            The hornets were indeed already stinging before their nest received several sharp wallops. But those made everything a thousand times worse.

            PS Why do you feel the need to be quite so intemperate in your language?

          • Clive

            My apologies if I appear intemperate.

            Afghanistan only appeared to be a ‘relatively secular entity’ because the Russians had a puppet government in there and the Russians like it that way. The Afghan culture was much more intemperate than you think I am, with burkas, etc. long in evidence and female education not so much. There is no Quranic rule about female education, these are cultural barriers.

            Iraq was a bad accident waiting to happen in many ways – not least WMD which did exist in Iraq http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html?_r=0.
            If the media reports this at all, it’s to say ‘Oh they were from old programs’ but think of the impact it would have made if immediately after the war anyone had reported ‘WMD found in Iraq’. Instead we got a pack of lies from the world’s press.

            I support and supported the Iraq War. There is a myth that Iraq was secular and so it had been but that was changing

            http://www.hrw.org/legacy/backgrounder/wrd/iraq-women.htm
            Women and girls have also suffered from increasing restrictions on their freedom of mobility and protections under the law. In collusion with conservative religious groups and tribal leaders, the government issued numerous decrees and introduced legislation negatively impacting women’s legal status in the labor code, criminal justice system, and personal status laws. In 2001, the U.N. Special Rapporteur for Violence against Women reported that since the passage of the reforms in 1991, an estimated 4,000 women and girls had been victims of “honor killings.” In recent years, both the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) and the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) administrations in northern Iraq issued decrees suspending laws allowing for mitigation of sentences in honor crimes, but the degree to which the suspension has been implemented is unknown.

            Furthermore, as the economy constricted, in an effort to ensure employment for men the government pushed women out of the labor force and into more traditional roles in the home. In 1998, the government reportedly dismissed all females working as secretaries in governmental agencies. In June 2000, it also reportedly enacted a law requiring all state ministries to put restrictions on women working outside the home. Women’s freedom to travel abroad was also legally restricted and formerly co-educational high schools were required by law to provide single-sex education only, further reflecting the reversion to religious and tribal traditions. As a result of these combined forces, by the last years of Saddam Hussein’s government the majority of women and girls had been relegated to traditional roles within the home.

          • Perplexed

            1) Thanks.

            2) Afghanistan under the monarchy, traditionalistic though it was, was vastly more secular and modern than the Taliban regime. Look at their policies towards women, for example. It was also relatively pro-Western.

            2) Iraq was a despotism and immensely brutal, but it was also tolerant in some ways, e.g. towards Christians. Christianity there was wiped out as a result of the American invasion. Personally I don’t think that it was ever proved that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. It was a relatively united state. Now it is three warring bits and hundreds of thousands of people are dead. Did you ever read the ‘Baghdad Burning’ blog?

            As for US policy only today Samantha Power blogged:-

            “Tens of thousands still detained by the Assad regime are subjected to torture, sexual violence, inhumane conditions & denied fair trials”
            All true no doubt, but rather one-sided and inadequate in view of all that that country has suffered. But no doubt her Saudi friends are urging her and her boss on—and the consequence is ever more suffering for the Syrians. It cannot possibly justify the West’s proxy war against Russia and Iran in Syria. Or the rise of DAESH and Jabhat al-Nusrat etc.

          • Clive

            I would like to see any evidence that Afghanistan under the monarchy was secular or tolerant on the ground. The government may have been – the current Afghan government is – but that does not get into communities outside Kabul. There was a rebellion at one point which replaced the monarchy with an emirate

            You are calling the New York Times liars if you say that no WMD were found in Iraq. You should read the link I gave you

            http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html?_r=1
            …Much of the chemical stockpile was expended in the Iran-Iraq war or destroyed when the weapons programs were dismantled after the Persian Gulf war of 1991. But thousands of chemical shells and warheads remained, spicing the stockpile of conventional ordnance left unsecured in 2003 after Iraq’s military collapsed as the United States invaded…

            The New York Times makes much of the age of the chemical weapons – they were made pre-1991. They therefore rate them as unimportant. The problems with that are:

            (a) They would say that wouldn’t they ? That’s why these weapons have not been reported by the media. The media pretty much unanimously said the US & UK governments lied about WMD and here is proof that they didn’t

            (b) If they were unimportant, why did the Saddam Hussein government not reveal them to the weapons inspectors ? The New York Times said a lot of them were unusable but given that there were over 5,000 warheads, that leaves a lot that were usable

            (c) The Iraq Survey Group mentioned a small number of chemical weapons but appears to have grossly underestimated the number found for reasons explained in the New York Times piece
            http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html?_r=1
            …By then the Pentagon had test results showing that the sarin shell could have been deadly. American chemical warfare specialists also knew, disposal technicians and analysts said, that in the 1980s Iraq had mastered mustard agent production in its Western-built plant. Its output had been as pure as 95 percent and stable, meaning that the remaining stock was dangerous.

            Reached recently, Mr. Duelfer agreed that the weapons were still a menace, but said the report strove to make it clear that they were not “a secret cache of weapons of mass destruction.”

            “What I was trying to convey is that these were not militarily significant because they not used as W.M.D.,” he said. “It wasn’t that they weren’t dangerous.”

            The Duelfer report also claimed that the United States had cleared more than 10,000 arms caches but found no other chemical ordnance. Several disposal technicians said this claim was false, though the report’s authors did not know it.

            THE DUELFER REPORT WAS PART OF A PATTERN OF UNDERSTATED GOVERNMENT ASSESSMENTS ABOUT CHEMICAL WEAPONS, AT ODDS WITH THE GOVERNMENT’S INTERNAL ACCOUNTS.

            One reason that government tallies were low, and that Mr. Duelfer’s team was not aware of all the chemical weapons recoveries, the techs said, was that by 2004 the military’s procedures for handling Iraq’s chemical weapons had created disincentives for troops to report what they found…

            The point is that all of the media in the UK -with varying degrees of virulence – declaimed that Tony Blair and George W Bush were liars because of this issue. If they had also published the information in this New York Times piece, those characterisations would have been fatally undermined.

            Tony Blair was a hate figure for the Left in the UK because he got rid of Clause 4. George W Bush has been a hate figure of the Left in the USA for all sorts of reasons.

            The whole journalistic thrust about these two lying about Iraq WMD was wrong.

            When the media are widely wrong, only silence ensues.

          • Jeffrey Vernon

            But that is not what Blair claimed. He said in 2002 that Saddam was actively manufacturing chem and bio weapons. The bio weapons claims were especially implausible; I recall P Ashdown’s lurid fantasy about mobile weapons labs in the desert that could be made to disappear in case of inspections (really? with unreliable electricity and water for the cell culture, and inadequate protection for the engineers…and just how would you weaponise anthrax, which has to be in the ground to have any effect?) As the NYT source says, you can manufacture mustard (though purity is a problem) but that’s not the same as making a usable device. When Blair made his claim, his advisors had no reasonable grounds for supposing it to be true.

  • Bjorn Burlin

    “Clement” isn’t a word you see used every day on the web and it’s very pleasant to the eye and ear, much like “elbow.” Thank you. “Elbow” was the Singing Detective’s favorite word. “Post” is another fine word, which sounds good when pronounced and is pleasantly associated with tradition and punctuality.

  • sidor

    It is getting abundantly clear that the Western attempts to avoid choosing side in the currently running global war within Islam are failing. If the West doesn’t take part in that war there, it will have to take part in it on its own territory. In fact it is already experiencing that war, like London bombing. There is no room for dancing: either you fight against ISIS, or you are on its side. The discussion of “islamophobia” is an irrelevant BS, as well as the idiotic discussion of “Islam vs. Christianity”.

    • John

      Exactly ; “the fence has been well and truly removed” – memo to those among us who are still trying to sit on it !

  • WarriorPrincess111111

    All part of the barmy life that we are living with due thanks to the idiotic ideals of those exhibiting educational disabilities who really should not have been allowed outside of a loony bin!

  • jeffersonian

    Sublime. Ron Liddle is my new hero.

  • Phyllyp Sparowe

    I’m with Rodzullah. I’m tired of hearing my fine garments mocked as man-skirts and having to wait in a mixed queue at Tescos. I’m off.

  • Sue Smith

    I can see why you feel personally offended and I do hope your self-esteem hasn’t been damaged. Our culture thinks it’s so superior just because it provides transport to the edge of the solar system, invented flying, heart transplants, control for diabetes, antiobiotics, computer technology, air conditioning, motion pictures, and stereophonic sound. It’s just unfair because people are all equal, including those riding camels and living in the 12th century. You all have no right to brag and make racist taunts when we (the oppressed but great of heart) are feeling pain because of your superiority!! I’m going to see the UN, the anti-Discrimination Commissioner or my lawyer – preferably all 3. We have the purest of motives and the problem exists with you – who are ready to judge. If you hadn’t carried out The Crusades all those years ago we would be the superior race and we need acknowledgment of that, recognition of your sins and a huge apology – if you don’t mind.

  • Maureen Fisher

    Could have come straight from the pages of the Guardian.

  • Mr L. I wish you all the best in your new endeavor, and hope that, before you exit the UK, you submit a good sum to the HM tax folk, to cover all the money the state has spent on you in your life time: your birth in a good NHS hospital, your family allowance, health care, education etc. I’m sure you’ll understand, and oh yes, I nearly forgot: rip up your passport!

  • jim

    Why emigrate?.You could just move to Rotherham.

  • Zhang Wei

    I admire how most commentators on this piece have a steaming erection over the abuse of children in the North of England yet benignly accept the hordes of white English paedophiles that descend upon SE Asia year upon year

    • Suzy61

      The discussion is about what is happening in the UK.

      I don’t think you will find anyone here defending English paedophiles…wherever they operate.

      Not sure what is your point.

    • GraveDave

      That’s really down to the government and authorities over there in S E Asia.
      I can only assume they turn a blind eye to it because they need the tourism and money it brings in.

    • Dan O’Connor

      Another hit and run drive-by one liner . I bet we won’t see you again.

      What chance do you think there is that somewhere down in Thailand, some Thailander is saying on some Thai blog forum …

      ” I admire how most commentators on this piece about the Muslim insurgency in Thailand that has killed 5, 000 Thais have a steaming erection over the abuse of children in Thailand, yet benignly accept the hordes of non-Westerners that descend upon towns like Rotherham year upon year ”

      I can tell you. Non-White people being concerned about what happens to White people has never happened and the chances of it happening are a billion to one

      Why do your ilk always resort to “whataboutery ” , as a shame and guilt tactic to weaken the moral resolve of Whites to deal with problems that are destructive to their social fabric ?
      How do you know if paedophilia is not more common and tolerated more amongst Africans, Arabs, Muslims , Asians , Hispanics, or Thais ?
      You don’t.

      What are we supposed to do everytime a crime is committed against our own people ? Are we supposed to by knee jerk first auto-reflex grope around to see if we can a white person who has committed the same crime before we allow ourselves the moral permisssion slip to act ?
      Do you think non-Whites do that ? No, they don’t . They’d laugh their heads of and look at you in a funny way if you said ” Oh yeah, well what about…” Only White people have that collective guilt death march cult
      That’s why you wrote what you wrote. Because you know whites ( and only Whites ) are naive and gullible suckers for every whataboutery argument

      • TrueNorthFree

        Changing the topic away from the Rotherham rapes of thousands of White English schoolgirls by Pakistani Muslim men shifts the attention away from one of our most powerful arguments against multiculturalism.
        Cultural marxists DO NOT like discussing Rotherham because it shows how disastrous multiculturalism is for Whites in our own White countries.

        • WTF

          They’d like awkward truths like Rotherham buried but just like the Holocaust albeit much smaller in scale, it should be remembered. It needs to be brought up time and again until all the Pakistanis / Muslims who carried out these acts are behind bars, deported or in a just society were castrated !

      • Richard longpole

        You take the moral high ground every time another country (or nation) does something to preserve their own way of life or at worse try to liberate others to their cause. I don’t agree with it now, but what I am saying is that history is repeating itself only this time the shoe is on the other foot.
        “Naive and gullible”? give yourselves a bit of credit, you are the leaders of the free world!

        • WTF

          Promoting child abuse seems a pretty sad & despicable way of preserving ones culture !

    • WTF

      This is our country and that is theirs. There was a time when the UK ruled pretty much of the globe and could enforce its laws on other countries but we gave you all independence to do with your country what you like.

      We don’t agree with pedos where ever they operate but if Asia countries turn a blind eye to child abuse or in some cases actually encourage it, its their country, their laws and not ours. We DON’T accept the hordes of white English paedophiles that descend upon SE Asia year upon year, they do and even if true, we do make it a UK offence if they are caught out. Hint- Gary Glitter !

      Muslims can gang rape 12 year olds around the world and get away with it and even in the UK they got away with it for 10 years. Wake up, the British Empire is no more. its up to other countries to show a civilised approach to their vulnerable children unless they want us to re-colonise their country !

      Get real, please !

  • Edward Studor

    Just saw a report on Russia Today about anti-Islam protesters across Australia who want to ‘Take our Country Back’. The protesters, who were moderate and peaceful, were described by RT as ‘extremists’ and ‘neo-Nazis’. Has the world gone mad?

    • Johnny Foreigner

      You can trace the madness, right back to the building of the first mosque on European soil.

  • Richard longpole

    I have said what I needed to say, and happy for once in the knowledge that right or wrong, my comments are are not censored!
    The Spectator can be congratulated for that.
    Thank you and good night!

  • huw

    good riddance

    • Callipygian

      Up yours, luv.

  • Callan

    Don’t forget. if you leave make arrangements for someone to collect your benefits on your behalf.

  • Callipygian

    I was hit on the head with a newspaper on a bus in a cosmopolitan city once for being a free young girl (about 11, no older) enjoying myself with my friends. Guess who the perpetrator was? And guess what he told the one man (everyone else was mum) that stood up for us? It was a challenge to go out and fight in the street. This is the level of their ‘civilization’.

    Had I been but months older, I should have got up and demanded of the bus driver that he call the police and made it clear that I had been assaulted. But I was a shade too young, and the adults were a shade or two too bovine to respond to this Neanderthal in an appropriately sod-off-you-Neanderthal manner (yes, I prefer the classical German spelling).

  • Callipygian

    This article would be funny were it not so pointedly true about so much that is wrong with our world, and especially with theirs. For they are the savages, the possessors of the world’s only ideological religion, the only religious ideology. It sucks blood and minds, apparently from the same body before it is even dead. But then again, really they ARE dead. As in that lyric by Declan MacManus: ‘living a life that is almost like suicide’.

  • WTF

    In true Islamic tradition of them and us as per the Quran & Haddith, there is a simple way to significantly reduce the terrorist threat to the west from within.

    First comes the rationale –

    In WWII, the UK imprisoned people of German descent for fear they could be a fifth column and the Americans did the same with people of Japanese descent. These people hadn’t been found committing any atrocities in their host countries nor had they provided safe haven for enemies of the state and they hadn’t even made any vocal anti-state comments. They were still interned none the less.

    Now consider Muslims in the USA and UK today , many have committed terrorist acts, they do provide safe haven for terrorists and they constantly spew hate against their host country.

    The solution – Demand that every Muslim pledge allegiance to its host country and renounce their religion and they’ll be left on a ‘watch list’ to ensure good behavior. For those refusing to pledge allegiance, give them a choice of internment or deportation !

    How about it Cameron, have you the cajones to go down this route ?

  • AverageGuyInTheStreet

    The post WW2 plan to destroy European nations through mass immigration and subsuming all European countries into a non democratic superstate has brought us to this. The problem can be easily done – either we are allowed to use mass deportation to return them to their natural countries, or we allow the current madness to continue and end up with another Nazi Final Solution with death camps to achieve the same ends.

    • WTF

      It will end in tears whilst our western leaders allow our culture to be perverted under Islam !

  • Pacificweather

    I remember when Rod used to be humorous.

    • WTF

      There’s little that’s humorous about an Islamic death cult.

      • Pacificweather

        As Rod just proved. You have to hand it to the French. They did their best to find humour in it.

    • Sten vs Bren

      He’s done what all these Trots do; he got sick of being on the losing side. They make the most enthusiastic fluffers for power.

      See also C Hitchens, J Straw.

      • Pacificweather

        At least Jack will get his day in court.

  • Clive

    So, Mr Liddle-who-recruited-Andrew-Gilligan-to-the-BBC-Today-program-to-go-after-the-government-on-Iraq creates a reductio ad absurdum with a 10-pound hammer.

    That said, he let himself down in the last paragraph, which says:
    If I do decide to emigrate I shall take with me fond memories of the United Kingdom and its endless, fathomless capacity for self-delusion. There really is no country in the world that does it better. I suppose it starts from the bizarre doublethink of multiculturalism — that people should be allowed to indulge in their own cultures and God forbid anyone mention ‘integration’, but that all cultures are essentially as liberal and democratic as your own and committed to the same goals and aspirations. That’s not really true, is it? And then, later, we get told that some bits of our culture — such as female genital mutilation, enforced marriages, persecuting or ostracising homosexuals and non-believers oh and so much else — are not actually part of our culture at all. We’ve got it all wrong! I suppose that’s less self-delusion than expediency and arrogance. But either way, thank you. It’s an endearing trait. And so long — missing you already, mwah.

    Wherein he mentions Islam and muslim not once – but he mentions ‘culture’ four times – five times if you count ‘multiculturalism’. So his last paragraph is nothing-to-do-with-Islam.

    And I agree. This is a cultural problem. Multiculturalism may have had its day but that day is long gone. We ought to be encouraging integration. We do not want the culture of the Swat valley or anything like it.

    We cannot integrate religions unless the State creates an official ‘supernatural entity’ which we are entitled to worship. It might finally give a name for the late May and late August bank holidays -‘supernatural entity worship’ days.

    The snag would be the temptation for a politician – George Galloway ? – to become the leader of the party of the supernatural entity and win some benighted constituency. The only benefit would be if that constituency were in Scotland but they are almost all already taken by culturally afflicted worshippers.

    So we have to integrate cultures. That is much more straightforward. The German SPD are already proposing – with the support of employers http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/zuwanderung-thomas-oppermann-bda-und-arbeitsagentur-fuer-reformen-a-1044351.html – that children of immigrants who speak fluent German should not be deported. That rather avoids the question of what to do with the parents but that’s for another day.

    I applaud these questionnaires which are part of citizenship tests. I even applauded the Norman Tebbit ‘cricket test’ when it was unfashionable so to do.

    Because these issues so elegantly highlighted by Mr Liddle-who-recruited-Andrew-Gilligan-to-the-BBC-Today-program-to-go-after-the-government-on-Iraq are cultural issues which must be resolved by cultural integration.

    • Perplexed

      Ever heard of diversity? Apparently the Chief Cashier at the Bank of England wants ‘diversity’ to be reflected on the new £20 notes. Seems to be the idea that we all have the same identity because we are different from one another. Or something like that. There are ‘diversity police’ in most government departments these days in Whitehall. They have teeth and can wreck careers.

      It seems in effect to be a new state-sponsored civil religion. Unlike the old religions you have to subscribe to it or get punished.

      And it rests on the view that all religions, inside diversity, are equivalent and equal. Swat valley or Canterbury Cathedral. Relativism imposed by government. Is the aim to eradicate traditional beliefs and culture in Britain? Or is it a panicky attempt to paper over the cracks and forestall what look like inevitable civil conflicts ahead?

      • Clive

        ‘Swat valley’ and ‘Canterbury cathedral’ label cultures, not religions.

        I take the view that all people are pretty much alike. Of course there can be those with brain chemistry differences – like psychopaths – but the rest of us are, in macro view, divided by our cultures.

        Cultures make for quite big differences between people’s behaviours but because they are learned, they can be changed.

        So in my view, Christianity (I was brought up Catholic); Islam and Judaism are pretty much the same. They have a book, they create rules, they were created by cultures whose sell-by date passed long ago.

        If that outrages you then think of this. I am a Christian brought up in London. What do I have in common culturally with a Coptic Christian in Egypt or a Maronite Christian who may be a member of the Phalange ? The same Phalange which perpetrated the Sabra and Chatila massacres.

        I used to work with a bloke called Mohammad. We compared notes one day about his having to learn some Arabic to read the Quran whereas I had to learn Latin to read my missal.

        He resented the racket made by the muezzins with their ‘cheap speakers’ when he lived in Karachi and I resented having to go to mass every Sunday and confession at least once a year.

        He was much closer to me in culture than the Maronite or the Copt and I was culturally closer to him than the IS nutter or the Shi’ite whacking himself on the head.

        • Perplexed

          Yes, you were both de-traditionalised, secularised Londoners — or professed to be. Did he go to the mosque, fast in Ramadan, and demonstrate against Salman Rushdie? If he was closer to the norms of his ‘faith community’ then the apparently similarities between you were deceptive. But if things were exactly as matey and identical as you describe, then fine. Would it was always so.

          • Clive

            …de-traditionalised, secularised Londoners…
            …or perhaps we never subscribed to the tradition at all. The point about many of these people going off to Syria seems to be not so much that they have followed a tradition from their parents as found one that their parents had lost. Either way, it’s a cultural problem.

            …Did he go to the mosque, fast in Ramadan, and demonstrate against Salman Rushdie?…
            Sometimes went to the mosque, sometimes fasted in Ramadan did not demonstrate about Salman Rushdie

            …norms of his ‘faith community’ …
            You have just invented these norms. I believe he probably is the norm of his faith community. Why would I think Muslims living in the UK any more fanatically religious than anyone else living in the UK ?

            The point is that whether or not you accept any difference in fanaticism between Muslims and others, that fanaticism is engendered by culture, not religion. It may be justified by religion – loads of rubbish is – but its origins are in culture.

            Humans find it difficult to shake off tribalism – be they Irish Catholics or Taliban Muslims.

  • Hanamanganda

    Islamophobia is not a hate crime. It is the legitimate fear that the world’s fastest growing and most aggressive religion, funded by trillions of oil dollars and pushed by violent extremists, using grievance tactics and our tolerance and weak will to defend our way of life, will force upon my children and their children a way of life that treats women as chattel, leads to intolerance of gays and of other religions, and creates a far worse society than the one we have now.

    And there is no Islamic country in the world today where where I can see a successful progressive, tolerant nation. All I see are old men in beards issuing fatwas, and varying degrees of intolerance, violence, misogyny, and hatred.

    I have co-workers who are muslim, and are totally normal people. I feel bad for the 90% or more of muslims who are normal people, but surveys show that 20-40% of muslims in Western country want Sharia, have some sympathy for ISIS, and this scares me.

    If a jar is full of candies, and 5% are poison, do I want to take a handful and pop them into my mouth?

    No. Sad to say, I’d rather Islam did not exist, and I do not want it to grow and destroy my country.

    • Clive

      Personally, I’d rather most religions didn’t exist. I used to make an exception for Buddhism but that seems to have become militant now. I only say ‘most’ because I hope there is some religion somewhere not capable of an interpretation which allows violence against non-believers. I have my doubts about whether that is true.

      You said …If a jar is full of candies, and 5% are poison, do I want to take a handful and pop them into my mouth?…
      You don’t have to put any of them in your mouth. That implies that you have to trust all Muslims and allow them, potentially, to harm you. You don’t have to trust anyone, that’s your choice.

      The point is that the people you are most likely to trust – Muslim or not – are born of western culture.

  • Fifth Army

    Westminster’s rotten legacy.

  • Tim Gilling

    The big mistake most commentators make is assuming that there is one Islam. Sure ISIS is an Islamic organisation but then Branch Davidian was a Christian organisation. Go on Rod. Educate yourself. This is a good place to start.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

    • Jeffrey Vernon

      Nonsense. The Archbishop of Canterbury is a useful idiot for the Ugandan Lord’s Resistance Army, and well you know it.

    • stephengreen

      Culture is an emanation of peoples. Islam, may have different expressions and some of its most noted examples may even be more cultural than religious, although historically they have now become bound together. But import the peoples and import the culture, therefore better to retain the culture you prefer, by rejecting ethnically alien peoples.

  • Rbeastlondon

    Can’t see you as sex slave, Rod.

  • Parvez_ahmed

    Guys ! You will never get this! Forget the intellectual debate! Radical Islam is here and is going to take over Europe. By Year 2090, history would be re-written. That this was always Islamic anyway, except for a brief period of Christian,atheist and apostate rule.

    Muslims will break the idols, the paintings, the museum and install their own calligraphy.

    You know why?

    because the world does not understand. That this is a battle of wombs. Muslim men are planting their seeds everywhere. WHile European men and women run away from parenthood.

    As a Muslim now an atheist… I am more alarmed than you. Trafalgar and Piccadilly will soon be converted to worship places. Soon means a 100 years… a historically insignificant period. The King of Saud will stay in Buckingham…

    Long live the king.

    A billion tent burqas await… the ladies of 2090..

    But then… Europeans dont deserve the land as they dont produce the children which converts of Allah do !

    Or

  • Coleridge1

    Why do we oppose loony Muslims going to Syria? If they go there’s a good chance they’ll be killed or seriously maimed.
    If they stay here they incite against Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, Jews, Gays and just about everyone who isn’t Muslim.
    I say pay them to go.

  • Andrew Morton

    I sadly enjoyed your article, Rod.

  • cd

    Can some please tell why oh why does the BBC keep referring to Mohamed as The Prophet Mohamed? He is not my prophet. The BBC certainly does not refer to Jesus as The Lord Jesus.

  • IRBF

    Liddle, do the world a favour and shut your cock holster, my local pub bore has more intellect and humour after ten pints.

    • cd

      Yeah shut your mouth! IRBF would prefer no freedom of speech. But then it could be he/she is just VIRTUE SIGNALLING!

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  • isis fucker

    You won’t last five minutes in Syria you wanker !! You will be fucked by goats before you reach the recruitment house…..

    • Heil Hitler

      The Russians will fix it…

  • Racism? Since when is a religion a race?

    • Heil Hitler

      The chosen parasites…

      1. UN chief of Migration, chairman at Goldman-Sachs bank.
      2. Sydney Blumenthal, not a Muslim, he works for Hillary.
      3. Rupert Murdoch: ‘Bloomberg would make a good president.’
      4. Bloomberg sells Sharia financial services.
      5. Syrian “rebel” terrorists met Keating 5 Senator McCain.

      Jüdischen bankiers sind überschwemmung Europa mit Muslimen.

      • I’ve reported your evil profile

        • Heil Hitler

          You called the Gaystapo? You gaytheists and fágnostics of Al Qúeerda are no different than the hijab wearing dóuche bags!

          Fúck Saudi Britain…

  • Heil Hitler

    Слава Богу – победа Православним Хришћанима!
    Glory to God – victory to the Orthodox Christians!

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