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How Lampedusa copes when the migrant ships come in

2 May 2015

9:00 AM

2 May 2015

9:00 AM

 Lampedusa

The young hang about in packs or speed around town, two to a scooter. Old women group together on benches around the town square in front of the church. The men continually greet each other as though they haven’t met for years. The likelihood is small. With fewer than 6,000 inhabitants, and as close to Libya as it is to Italy, Lampedusa is the sort of place from which any ambitious young Italian would spend their life trying to escape. Yet every day hundreds and sometimes thousands of people are risking their lives to get here.

‘Please tell people we have nice beaches,’ one islander pleads. And indeed they do, but the fact is that today the island is not famous for tourists (there is only one other guest at my hotel) but for the boatloads of migrants who are trying to make their way towards this most southerly point of Europe. It is a strange fate. Over the centuries this small scrap of land has been populated, depopulated after pirate raids and repopulated again. But what has happened in recent years is new. People have fled northern Africa for years. Lampedusa’s graveyard attests to that. Buried alongside the locals are some of those who set out for the island whose journey ended in the sea. (‘Migrante non identificato. Qui riposa,’ says one of the grave-markers put down by the local government. ‘29 Settembre 2000.’)

But since the ‘Arab Spring’ the trickle of migrants has become a flood. The island buries those it can identify and commemorates those it cannot with a cross and the identity number given on arrival. ‘Where are the other bodies?’ I ask someone. ‘The sea has most’ is the reply. But despite the horrors you hear, most of those who come now — averaging a journey of 24 hours on the vessels the traffickers put out — will survive. They arrive exhausted, traumatised, often having crossed over two continents, some having lost a wife or child on the -journey.

One recent Nigerian arrival sat on the floor weeping, having saved one child but seen another and his wife drown. But still they come, knowing the risks, because for all the stories of sinking boats and deaths on board, most of those who set out will reach Italian waters and there become -European citizens.


Of course, this does not come free. The cost of the crossing alone can be as high as €4,000 a passenger. It depends what they can afford, and positions on the vessel are assigned accordingly. Well-dressed, well-off Syrians will sit on the top deck. They, the Tunisians and others look down on the sub-Saharans who have no money. There is a hierarchy, including a racial hierarchy, among those who set out.

From 2011 onwards, Italy and Europe inarguably struggled to get on top of the new reality. The fall of the dictators meant the crumbling of the old, shady agreements on stopping traffickers. Hundreds and sometimes thousands of people were arriving in Lampedusa every day and night on rickety boats, some of which remain piled up behind the harbour front — a graveyard of wretched vessels, piles of which the island authorities periodically burned. 2011 was a bad year for the island. Arrangements would be made for 500 people to be shipped or flown off just as a thousand more arrived. The migrant reception centre in Lampedusa is designed to hold 350 people. At 500 it is crowded. In 2011 and again in 2013 it was bursting.

This year looks set to be a busy summer. Last week the reception centre held 1,300 people and rescue teams didn’t sleep for two nights. At times like this, local feelings can become a problem.

The Italian government, mindful of this, seems to be getting on top of matters. Migrants are now held on Lampedusa for as short a time as possible before being transferred to Sicily (where many others land) or the mainland. While they are here their legal situation is unclear. Small groups of sub-Saharans boys and men (the group who suffer the worst prejudice from their fellow migrants, are put in the hold and drown first) wander around town. The migrants once made a hole in the fence at the back of the reception centre. Now, apparently, they walk through the front door. Nobody is sure what to do, or whether they can or should be stopped. Migrants with money go shopping on the tiny main street that leads to the harbour. The Syrians buy clothes, others buy alcohol or phonecards.

I meet three young Eritreans in the street. Two have just bought, and are very proud of, ‘I love Lampedusa’ hats. This is unusual. The Eritreans are the group most intent on leaving Italy once here, memories of their former colonial rulers remaining bitter. They will all head north.

Today there are only 55 people in the centre, including 45 minors. Outside the church, eight Eritrean boys are following instructions from an older migrant. They do not blend in. Among the small packs of immigrants who pop up in the town, some make an effort to wave or nod at locals. Others slope through the streets, already seeming resentful. Two — in their twenties — sit in silence on the edge of the harbour, picking at their feet and looking back at the country they embarked from and the sea they managed to cross.

All the time huge naval vessels scour the horizon. When a seaworthy boat is spotted it is escorted into harbour by a helicopter and rescue boats. The one these boys came in on last week (they were in the hold) now sits in the harbour, beside the Italian government boats. But this too is unusual. Most of the vessels heading to the island now are so unseaworthy that the migrants are transferred and brought into harbour on Italian government boats. Save the Children, the UNHCR and others are given a couple of hours’ notice to get down to the port.

‘What happens when they arrive?’ I ask one of the remarkable workers from Save the Children. ‘We tell them they are in Italy and they are safe.’ Apparently at this news the migrants tend to smile. In the countries they flee from the police are the enemy, so they need to be persuaded that the police here work with and for them.

But what happens next? All will claim asylum. Most have legitimate claims to be fleeing unrest and are just looking for ‘peace, freedom and protection’. But about 80 per cent are young men, which suggests that they are coming to Europe to make money that they can then send back. Later, perhaps, they will get the right to bring over their family. If they are refugees then Italy has a duty to give them asylum. But the truth is that there is essentially no way to find out who is who, or what is true. There is not the money, the will or the time. If migrants are refused asylum then they can appeal. And then? Nobody I speak to has heard of any case of someone arriving and being refused the right to remain or being sent back. Once you are in Lampedusa waters you get to stay.

Of course, even those who may be lying about asylum are looking for an infinitely better life than the one they are leaving behind. And today, on Lampedusa, it seems easy to visualise schemes which will distribute this human wave equitably and harmoniously across Europe. But anybody who knows just Italy knows better than this. The better-off exiles aside, most will find themselves sleeping outside the railway station in Milan, loitering in the squares of Florence or selling imitation luxury goods for criminal gangs on the bridges of Venice. They may be more protected, free and safe than they were at home, but their future can hardly be said to be bright. Our continent is probably doing the only thing a Christian civilisation can do in saving these people from the sea. But the international search and rescue mission in the waters of the Mediterranean may prove to be the easiest part.

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  • sebastian2

    It’s almost as if they are fighting to re-embrace colonialism. We – the former colonioal powers – are superior after all. Isn’t that what attracts them? Perhaps, then, the civilisation and ‘better life’ they risk their lives for in Europe, should return to the countries they fled from.

    Would Somalia, for instance, not be calmer and more prosperous back under the British, with the warlords behind bars and Al Shabab in their graves? Let us go to them and save them the expense and horror of coming to us. No? Then, if not there under a benevolent regime installed by the country many struggle to enter, then where? Or are we forever stuck with a growing difficulty?

    If so, why should Somalia work in Britain if Britain wouldn’t work in Somalia?

    • Richard

      It isn’t a matter of logic. The Left wants them here. They overwhelmingly vote Left. It is in their interests to regularise them and give them citizenship immediately, if possible. To hell with the social consequences.

      • red2black

        With so many immigrants already here, how come Labour aren’t streets ahead in the polls? Is there any evidence that immigrants ‘overwhelmingly vote Left’?

        • Richard

          Yes, there is, though it is slightly less than it used to be, probably after Blair’s escapades in the Middle East. In fact, a report came out just the other day about it which, if memory serves correct, had it that 69% actively support Labour. The only group which has gone from supporting Labour to supporting the Tories are Hindu Indians. Muslims and blacks are overwhelmingly still Labourite. No doubt Google will give you what you need.

          • red2black

            I did try Google, but couldn’t find anything that gave a general picture of voting behaviours.

          • Richard
          • red2black

            Thanks for the link Richard, but I’m afraid it’s all gone a bit too middle-and-upper-class for me.

          • sebastian2

            This would perhaps explain Labour’s lewd grooming of mohammedans and Milliband’s absurd blasphemy proposal: ie to punish islamophobia (whatever that is). Odd that Labour should be so canvassing the votes of a creed that …… umm ….doesn’t generally practice (liberal) democracy (as we understand it) and rather supports sharia and mohammedan jurisprudence instead, along with governance by religious scholars.
            http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/

            There are certainly issues to be discussed here – but they are “forbidden”. Why? Because, inter alia, they may lead the discussion to places unscrupulous, vote craving politicians don’t want us to go.

      • Grey Wolf

        In the UK (and in the broader West), all major political parties are of the Left. Be absolutely clear about that. Tories are leftists, as are Labour. They are all consensual on:

        -protecting the interests of big business,
        -globalism,
        -EU,
        -political correctness,
        -unhealthy focus on individualism,
        -contempt for tradition,
        -human rights and egalitarianism
        -liberal interventionist wars overseas to ”export” liberal democracy

        On the issues above there is no difference between Labour / Tory / Angela Merkel / or any major Western Leader.

        • red2black

          It’s just as easy to show that all the major political parties are of the Right.

          • Grey Wolf

            No, its not. You are being disingenuous. You cannot show that when the ”conservative” Prime Minister of UK legalises gay marriage, allows record levels of immigrants to come in and becomes a member of a decrepit organisation called Unite Against Fascism. The focus has to be on the big issues of the day.

          • red2black

            I wouldn’t call UAF or gay marriage the big issues of the day, but immigration certainly is one of them.
            My, how that’s benefitted the employers. Your own list includes things that can be considered as either ‘Right’ or ‘Left’, dependent on one’s viewpoint. Big business, globalism, individualism; I’d include interventionist wars, as there’s no pre- or post-war evidence to show that their sole purpose has been as a means to export liberal democracy; rather that there was no post-war planning at all.

          • Richard

            Labour is Left, Tory is not. If you want some sort of a test, look at Rhodesia and South Africa. Labour criticised and condemned those countries when they were not ideologically aligned with the Left/Labour but economically stable. Now that they are aligned with the Left ideologically, but economically unstable, there is not a peep of criticism from Labour. In South Africa, there have been hundreds of deaths of unarmed black people at the hands of black police in the past couple of years, but not a peep from Labour. When those deaths were blacks at the hands of whites, the chorus from the British Left was deafening. Corruption and poverty are much higher now than previously, but they mouth Leftist policies, so Labour adores them.

            In other words, its got nothing to with what you actually do, it’s whether you sing from our hymn-sheet. If you do, all is excused. That is also the basis of their love-in with militant and intolerant Islam: vote for us, and we’ll ignore what you do, be it beheadings, be it Rotherham, be it anything at all.

            That’s how you can tell Labour from Tory, and Left from Right, in my experience.

          • Grey Wolf

            Contemporary Tories are LEFT. They are in support of liberal progressive policies – political correctness, immigration, exporting liberal democracy, increasing egalitarianism and promoting LGBT causes.

          • Richard

            They are Left, but are more centre, relatively-speaking. There are no real conservatives left in the UK.

          • goodsoldier

            There are real conservatives and real old Labourites in UKIP.

          • Verbatim

            Sadly, I have to agree with this statement.

          • Pacificweather

            But does the Tory predilection for employer subsidies (the worst form of socialism) not alter that somewhat. Labour (who started it) used to be the party of workers but started to use workers’ taxes to subsidise capitalist. The Tories (seeing no one had noticed) continued it and turned it to their benefit (bad pun). You have to admit that must be confusing for the young.

          • red2black

            The system we live under makes public subsidies necessary. The poorest would suffer the most if there weren’t any.

          • Pacificweather

            I have no objection to subsiding the poor. It’s subsidising the rich with the poors’ taxes I object to.

          • red2black

            Sorry; I thought you were referring to in-work benefits.
            You mean things like ‘corporate welfare’?

          • Pacificweather

            In work benefits for full time employees subsidise employers at the taxpayers’ expense. Employment should create taxes not taxes employment otherwise it isn’t sustainable.

          • red2black

            I agree with you, but wouldn’t that mean that more people would be unemployed? It seems that a good number of employers either can’t, or refuse to, pay their workers a reasonable wage.

          • Pacificweather

            When I first started work an employer had to pay a living wage or nobody would work for him and there was full employment. If we have created jobs that have negative value to the country then we need to replace them with jobs that have a positive value. By raising the minimumum wage we can learn which jobs have a positive value and which jobs have a negative value as employers either raise their wages or go bust. We may find we need some other temporary subsidy to create jobs that will eventually have real value but until we raise the minimum wage we will not know which employers have real jobs and which employers are just milking the subsidies.

          • red2black

            The key to your comment is ‘full employment’. I’m not an economist, but a level of unemployment around five or six percent seems to be something that suits the present system, so presumably some form of social welfare is needed and is acceptable as well.
            There are ‘economics’ to levels of unemployment that make it ‘positive’. We always seem to end up with some sort of ‘mixed economy’ out of social and economic necessity. I doubt ‘full employment’ is really what it says it is, and is in any event, unsustainable for any great length of time.

          • Pacificweather

            Unemployment did rise slowly so that by 1979 it had reached the then shocking figure of 1.2 million. Mrs Thatcher then changed the nation’s perception of unemployment by raising it to 4 million and creating structural unemployment using disibility benefits for the older unemployed using our oil bonanza.

            Knowing that will no longer play well with the electorate, the current policy is now structural low employment costs (using taxpayer funded employer subsidies) to ensure unemployment remains at pre Thatcher levels. This policy has caused the unintended consequences high immigration and high youth unemployment that the government still struggles to address. Raising the minimum wage (over 3-5 years) will remove the need for the subsidy and reduce immigration as the economy shrinks to its unsubsidised level before it rises again with rising productivity.

          • Linda Smith

            You’re wrong. The oversupply of labour due to mass immigration means it’s an employer’s market, ie simple law of supply and demand. Employers will pay the last possible, and that includes Labour run councils

          • Pacificweather

            Which means that the government must either raise the minimum wage (which will reduce the demand for cheap imported labour) or stop topping up poverty wages to living wages with taxpayers’ money. If people can’t live on the wage they won’t work for the employer and employers will be forced to raise wages to get people to work for them. It is the government that is artificially increasing the supply of labour by paying in-work benefits. If it was just an excess Eastern Europeans prepared to live in shared accommodation on minimum wage then there would be no need for the government to pay in-work benefits and the taxpayer would save £12.5 billion that could help to reduce the deficit. The government has a policy of subsidising employers to lower unemployment. This is why Britain’s productivity has not improved despite that the goverment says is a growing economy.

          • Linda Smith

            A good number of employers don’t pay their workers a “reasonable” wage because, due to mass immigration, there is an oversupply of labour. Conversely, due to mass immigration, there is an undersupply of housing – result: high housing costs.

          • red2black

            An oversupply of workers means employers can keep their wage bills down. An undersupply of housing means private landlords can trouser lots of welfare payments.

          • Verbatim

            I’d say, once again, you’ve hit a bulls-eye with this one. Sir, you need to get into politics as you’ve got much of intelligence to contribute. The rank hypocrisy of the Left (which is actually a metaphor for ‘don’t think, emote”) takes my breath away.

          • Richard

            Sadly, politics has nothing to do with intelligent contribution. I was disabused of that notion long ago. Look at Britain: in spite of everything we have heard about Labour – Islamism, permitted child-rape in Rotherham, Trojan Horse, mass immigration, profligacy – there is still a very real chance they will win the elections. Rationality is out the window. It is now all about narcissism and outward signs of PC to boost your own, personal power. It is a sort of cloud cuckoo-land of people who cannot link cause with effect. You can do almost anything in the UK, and it doesn’t make any real difference to anything. That disconnect has made adults into babies of sorts: mummy will always be there to clean up after you.

            I genuinely feel there is no hope for the body politic. It is now a matter of take care of yourself, and devil take the hindmost. Whatever there was that made this a “country” is dead. For that reason, there is nothing positive that politics can do. It is all just show and self-love.

          • Verbatim

            I’m sorry you feel so negatively about it because there are genuine folk like ourselves out there who desperately need somebody to speak for them – you know, honest and hard-working people who’d help you out in an emergency. These people are the silent majority and they wring their hands in despair at what’s being played out. Their abiding fault is silence itself, but I feel that is a result of diminished belief in both themselves and their ability to have any impact in what they say or do.

            Depressing, but there IS hope. And I’ll continue to contribute to the ‘discussion’ from Australia, once I return (25/5) and get back on the internet.

          • Grey Wolf

            The difference between ‘Right’ and ”Left” is very clear to those who understand history and political traditions and their narratives. The real dividing line is egalitarianism. If you believe it is moral you are a leftie. If you are anti-egalitarian, you are a person of the right.

            Blair, a progressive-liberal-leftie, was the most gung-ho supporter of exporting liberal democracy through wars.

          • red2black

            So where did he export liberal democracy to?

          • Grey Wolf

            Iraq.
            He failed miserably. But that was his aim.

          • red2black

            Is that what the Americans had in mind as well?

          • Pacificweather

            They got that wrong then.

          • red2black

            That’s putting it mildly!

          • Pacificweather

            So why did he abandon his beliefs to become very much more unequal?

          • Cobbett

            Go on then – show us.

          • red2black

            See my reply to Grey Wolf below.

          • Grey Wolf

            Your reply has nothing in it. Obviously, you didn’t get the memo.

          • red2black

            Memo?

          • Gilbert White

            Run a mile from those people often married couples who have those huge realistic timber wolf images on their t shirts and lumberjack coats please reassure me Mr. Grey Wolf, and why not just plain Jock of the Bushveld?

          • red2black

            Apologies for the earlier short reply. It’s clear from your other comments here that each of us use different criteria to determine what is ‘right’ and ‘left’.

          • Pacificweather

            Think right = good. Left = bad and it starts to make sense.

          • red2black

            We usually end up with some sort of compromise out of economic and social necessity.

          • Verbatim

            Now you’re starting to make sense!

        • greggf

          The major political parties may be of the Left Grey Wolf, but that doesn’t reflect their voters’ current views.
          The Left (and Right) have been forced into a defensive coalition in the EU parliament and Germany, the outcome in the UK would be the same except for FPTP, and France looks like following suit next time.
          The voters are fed up with having issues like those you list including immigration forced down their ballots without being asked.
          They are going to show some very unchristian attitudes sooner than Douglas Murray may expect.

          • Johnny Foreigner

            No they will not, the British backbone disintegrated many years ago, the uneducated mongs will continue to vote for the LibLabCon for many years to come, until it is too late. Have you ever been in a Liverpool pub during an election and listened to the utter chite spewed forth on how the country should be run?

          • james cormack

            No, but I’ve been inn the leafy Home Counties and listened to the ignorant, parochial, small-minded drivel being voiced by the selfish right-wingers who abound in those parts.

          • Johnny Foreigner

            Touché, can’t argue here. I should’ve added them to my rant.

        • Gilbert White

          Nar chief, the thieving politicians just invented an utopian, political rhetoric they cannot abandon without being proved the liars they are. They also invented the hate crime to postpone the inevitable. They do not even follow their own laws. We have ban the moon UN. Supremo talking about the club med drownings of rich people , our own people in their millions could not raise a spare hundred or so in necessity. Any way we have this guy talking stupid white man whilst keeping strangely silent about North Koreans dying even in larger numbers. Makes you think!

        • Pacificweather

          Protecting the interests of big business is now left wing. I like that. It would confuse George Orwell but it has a kind of national socialist logic to it.

          • Grey Wolf

            If Orwell were to land here today many things would confuse him and some things wouldn’t.

            Communism is dead in the big bro Soviet sense but is alive and kicking in the West in the triumph of Frankfurt School / Cultural Marxism. The new big bro exercises totalitarian control by the means of PC, more effective than Soviets. The Western leftie elite is also very pro-globalism and big biz helps promote that.

            Of course, national traditions of peoples stand in the way of globalism / Cultural Marxism so they should be bad-mouthed, sullied, corrupted and demolished – that’s the programme of the establishment elite in the West. They differ only in petty details.

          • Pacificweather

            Gosh, and I thought it was just about cheap labour. Do you have a solution?

          • red2black

            Anyone who declared themselves Socialist, fought for the POUM in Spain and sided with the Anarchists after realising what the Stalinists had been up to, would be very confused.

          • MathMan

            Orwell would see that his ideas from ‘Animal Farm’ and ‘1984’ are alive and well

          • David

            I think he means corporatism. If so, he’s quite right.

          • Pacificweather

            This old dog is still learning the new language before he can learn the new tricks. Corporatism was Capitalism when I was a lad and Capital was right wing.

          • Johnnydub

            No – corporatism is soft fascism – and fascism is left wing.

            Cue hordes of spluttering leftists….

          • Pacificweather

            That covers the left, so what is now right wing?

          • Patrick Roy

            Refer to Sebastian2 at the top. Reoccupy and provide some organisation and civilisation. Bring back the Empire, Pacific!

        • Sun

          It’s funny because Capitalism was Left wing in France during the 18th century.

          It became “left wing” when the left moved on and the Right adopted it over as democracy infected all areas of politics. As the Right used to be inegalitarian, authoritarian, anti-individualism, etc.

        • james cormack

          Weren’t the Grey Wolves a fascistic, nationalistic group in Turkey?

      • sebastian2

        You may well have a point. The left has always puzzled me. Now it puzzles and alarms me. It seems incable – utterly unable – of reflecting on the consequences of mass mohammedan immigration, especially when the money and the patience run out.

        Islamofascism, which is what we’ll get a very large dose of, won’t lead to the sort on multicultural, Cuba style continent the left perhaps hallucinates about. (Cuba wasn’t multicultural, by the way.)

        • Damaris Tighe

          It’s jaw-dropping that we’re allowing into our societies (which still contain millions of practising Christians), Muslims who threw Christians off their boat. I know they’ve been arrested but if & when they’ve served their sentences I don’t think for one minute they’ll be deported.

          • Cobbett

            Who cares about Christianity? Not all these Africans are muzzies…’Christian’ Africans are just as bad.

          • Grey Wolf

            You have all the questions and you assume I have all the answers. Give your dull mind some exercise.

          • Cobbett

            I should think so too.

          • Grey Wolf

            Christianity is the reason we have turned into a mushy, all-embracing, weepy-eyed, turn-the-other-cheek universalist altruists of the pathological kind.

            Europe must re-discover its own traditions and spiritual attitudes. Europe is for people of European descent and culture, not hostile immigrants.

          • red2black

            Having read your comment, I understand why you regard our mainstream parties as being ‘Left’.

          • Grey Wolf

            Good.

          • red2black

            So what do you suggest in place of Christianity and the political parties?

          • Grey Wolf

            You have all the questions and you assume I have all the answers. Give your dull mind some exercise. Or take a walk.

          • red2black

            I’m not assuming anything. There are plenty of alternatives to what we have now. If you don’t have one, that’s fair enough by me. Thanks for your replies.

          • Donafugata

            Once Christianity got past the reformation and wars of religion it was fine for Europe but its compassionate, tolerant and forgiving nature are only now looking, as you rightly say, mushy and weepy-eyed.

            With the importation millions who belong to an aggressive, intolerant and supremacist death cult it is facing extinction.

            Introducing rats to a dovecote is bound to cause trouble for the doves.

          • sebastian2

            Nicely phrased!

          • sebastian2

            It IS astonishing. And you can imagine the lengthy catalogue of reasons and rights that will prevent their deportation, and oblige us to provide for them – for ever.

      • EnglandLaments

        The consequence will be civil war in the longer run. Wherever Islam achieves a critical mass in a host population, it leads to violent conflict.

    • Sun

      It should be obvious…they’re inferior and create inferior societies when left to their own devices. They know our countries and what we create are superior. So they move.

      You will never find some egalitarian moving to one of these countries ironically.

      • sebastian2

        Interesting questions are raised by this. Will we be allowed to ask them and discuss them? Not if the multicultural and anti-racist left thought police has its way. Such examinations are verboten.

        However, the cultures and dispositions of a society surely have consequences (read Sam Harris on this): these may kill or cure.

        The migrants seek a “better life”. Why, then, is life in Europe better (and I mean “better” not “perfect”)? Why is theirs worse? Why is Libya a bloodbath of rival factions? Why is ISIS so pitilessly hostile to all but its own savage and submissive members, who even themselves live in fear of disobedience? Why is Yemen disintegrating? Why is Pakistan so incurably corrupt and backward? Why don’t the Spanish concoct every possible strategy for shifting en masse into, say, Bangladesh?

        N African and others risk drowning for the lives their own societies cannot deliver to them. But their parent failed states fail for a reason. A reason that is as cultural as it is perhaps economic.

        My anxiety is that if they fail there, migrants will bring that tendency to failure with them, and then fail in Europe too. Benefits – these are finite – will merely delay this. It can all be bought off, but not for ever. It seems likely to me that mass migration – mostly of unskilled and badly educated males – will not lead to assimilation and the adoption of European norms and the complete cultural shift that goes with them. Slaves to al’Lah, sharia and polygamy on one hand; gender equality, freedom of conscience, wine and porcini pork tenderloin on the other. It ain’t really going to work.

        You may imagine the more likely alternative.

        • Rumbletums

          Yes indeed. And having circumvented the legal route for asylum we do not know who these people are. Some in all likelihood Islamic fanatics, murderers and rapists. Their subjective idea of a “better life” probably does nor correspond with the one the hand-wringing public figures who use this phrase imagine.

          • sebastian2

            Absolutely it doesn’t. Such people have one thing in mind: plunder by degrees and seizure by stealth. Threats > concessions > gains.

        • Sun

          Well I won’t get into a big long meandering post, but yes, when they come they’re bring their “culture” with them-that’s obvious and goes without saying. I’m more concerned about Europeans as a group (racial) becoming a minority and mixed out of existence and we see a complete mirror of the societies they have. Cultures, etc, stem from groups of people (even if they can be varied from French to British despite being part of the same racial group).

          The problem is the anti-racist left will get its way until things get really bad. Words only are able to push so far. Neighborhoods change beyond recognition. Minorities become majorities and start dictating the direction of society. Sharia courts/laws become paramount, etc. And then a backlash will begin. I can only hope it doesn’t go to the extreme on the other end (as far as the Right is concern). But that is why the right is called the “reaction”. They react to the Left pushing too far. The only way for Europe to survive as a people, identity, cultures, and society is to adopt nationalist/nativistic notions. Even if you retain the liberal old school notions of gender equality, freedom of conscience, etc, that too will die because demography is destiny. And the people who come here don’t agree with a lot of those things will obviously bring change to the society. And if you accept “freedom of conscience” wholly, you have (paradoxically) to accept them and their ideas on the principle of free conscience and that all mindsets are equally valid to consider, etc. If you don’t, then you have to make amends to the notion of equality and freedoms.

          Liberalism one way or another will die. Either by our group or theirs. It isn’t sustainable.

    • Johnny Foreigner

      That’s an easy one to answer. When we were over there, we put them to work for us, then after WWII the uneducated and grasping voted for a socialist nirvana, a little later we joined a pan-European elite class of socialist warriors, bent on changing the face of its people (literally) and homelands. So Africa now comes to Europe and now it’s time for us to work for them as shovellers of tax and comfort, for years to come. You know, we were a bit nasty to them in the past, we must now squeeze the spot guilt, until the pips squeak. My o my, I’m drenched in puss as I write this.

    • GGbox

      I came to this page 4 months too late, but had to say that your very logical take on the issue goes directly to its core, albeit politically incorrect.

      • sebastian2

        Thanks for your reply. I appreciate your joining the discussion whatever the timing. It’s one that’s sure to continue in any event. These worries will not go away soon.

  • albert pike

    Is this your follow up article to the others you wrote entitled ‘How do Libyans cope when the bombs start falling?”? Which in itself was a follow up to the other wonderful eye opening articles you wrote on the same situations in Gaza, Iraq, Yemen, Afghanistan……………….

    • Infidelissima

      Phack Gaza!
      They are lucky Egypt and Israel haven’t turned it into a combined holiday resort yet.

  • Richard

    Watch as the numbers crush Europe. Watch as all resources have to go into feeding, housing and clothing these Africans. Watch as Islam grows and grows and grows, and primitive Christianity (not CoE, the African kind) grows and grows. Watch as theatres, libraries, opera houses, and all the things that make Europe, Europe, close for want of money. Watch as civil strife grows. Watch as we become the countries they left behind. People make their countries. They made Africa what it is.

    They are only generation away from hating Europe and Europeans. The arrivals may be grateful – though many asylum-seekers are in the forefront of terrorism against the countries that gave them asylum – but their children aren’t. Their children are taught by the Left in the UK to hate this country. Once they are settled here, they come to see that they are always the add-ons, the un-indigenous, the people who are recognised as being asylum-seekers or the children of asylum-seekers. Their culture is different, their pursuits are different, their desires are different.

    All this can ever bring is strife, and the obliteration of Europe.

    • sebastian2

      Excellent post Richard. I think you express reasonable apprehensions well. Unless we act now, all this will end in the most terrible of tears.

    • Shazza

      aka The Fall of the Roman Empire II.

      • Richard

        Exactly. As soon as the rabble took power in Europe, its days were numbered. I used to think it was more like “Brave New World” where the outsiders were kept out, but now I see it is more like the collapse of Rome.

    • Donafugata

      Well said, Richard.

      And what will become of Europe’s art collections, museums churches and cathedrals and other cultural heritage doesn’t bear think ing about.

      • Verbatim

        Self-loathing Europeans from the left have already abandoned most of the values and treasures of that civilization. Ironically, these are the same people who’ll put hand on heart and say they’re protecting it!!! You see, the Left is generally comprised of two groups of people:

        1, Academics so remote from reality that they believe everything they read from the comfort of an ivory tower and the evangelical longings of Martin Luther King: and they regard wealthy people as somehow grubby and unworthy and irredeemable capitalists. Ergo: since academic pursuits haven’t brought similar monetary rewards these lefties want the system overturned so that they can justify their own moribund values; “why, when I’ve studied so hard and am patently so much more clever than those BMW owners, have I not achieved these kinds of rewards; something has to change because the system is obviously wrong”!!!

        2. ‘Unsuccessful’ people who, for whatever reason, haven’t achieved the wealth and status they’ve seen earned by others and to which they think they are justly entitled. Consequently, they’re more than ready to ‘punish’ by abandonment that ‘system’ which was of no use to them: a less sophisticated form of the Category 1 mindset, “If I can’t have it, neither can you”.

        It’s the ugly face of class hatred, I’m afraid.

        • goodsoldier

          The great post-modern artist of our time Tracey Emin will donate her ‘bed’ to the Louvre for the sake of upholding western civilization.

          • Verbatim

            She’s about as much in touch with the real world and its myriad complexities, problems and predicaments as the Three Stooges. In fact, not unlike our own Hydra, she is actually a one-woman Three Stooges!! I have proof!!

      • sebastian2

        Look at what ISIS is doing. Look at how KSA treats monuments to other cultures and religions; look at what the alleged “prophet” and his savage, mesmerised followers did to the temples and shrines, bar one, in pagan (aka “multifaith”) Mecca.

        There’s your answer – and a very unpleasant one it is.

    • Bonkim

      Why waste time watching – do something.

    • Coastliner

      Very well put – thank you.

    • Verbatim

      Richard, this is devastatingly accurate. Your final paragraph is stark and prescient – and, yes, they are after ‘the goodies’. Come and see them using their latest smart phones, dressed to the nines and treating women like excrement.

    • goodsoldier

      If they must come to England, shanty towns should stretch across Hampstead Heath and Primrose Hill and all the Lefty communities so metroliberals can enjoy the multicultural diversity minutes away from their homes. Their children can play with the newcomers and they can invite them for high tea regularly. The private schools should take migrants in for free. Every Lefty in Islington must take in a migrant and house them.

  • Stephen Milroy

    These are at best economic migrants. At worst they are ISIS vanguard. Either way I’m not particularly comfortable about the fact a lot of them will end up coming here…

  • Grey Wolf

    Pathological altruism – that’s what Europe is suffering from. It is self-destructive and, in the longer run, entirely unhelpful towards whom it is directed. It is ironic that even as Communism was overcome by the West, it succumbed to Social – Cultural ideas arising out of / derived from Frankfurt School (Cultural Marxism)

  • Mr Creosote

    They will all become European citizens and then they will go to where the jobs and benefits are – here.

    Junckers yesterday engineered a further erosion of our sovereignty – to a deafening silence from the MSM. See the link:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTwOap7ohc4

    • Richard

      Eminently reasonable on the part of Farage.

      • red2black

        Mr Farage seems to be the itch they can’t scratch. It would be interesting to know how extremists can be filtered out.

    • Donafugata

      Thanks for the link, Mr. C, this just makes me even more impatient for next week.

    • Damaris Tighe

      NF should be shouting this from the rooftops. Maybe he has. It certainly hasn’t been reported.

  • We can’t have 500 million Africans in Europe, of which at least 50 million will want to come to Britain. The population of Nigeria alone is expected to grow to 900 million by the end of the century. They must be assisted to help themselves in their own countries or Europe will become as African as the states they flee from. Then we will all be living in hell.

    • cartimandua

      Yes we need to send them back as new business start ups .

    • Gilbert White

      We could if we had those Argos garden sheds by the millions under the wind farms. We could also invent a priobiotic yogurt medicinal compound to feed the world. A pint of kerosone for lighting and heating for the week oh what a wonderful trees of green world invented by lying thriving politicians.

    • sebastian2

      We must halt it before it halts us.

  • Cobbett

    The Camp of the Saints – pathological guilt ridden whites digging their own graves(millions of Africans will surely bury Europe). It’s either them or us.

    • knowshistory

      ok with me if guilt ridden psychotic whites dig their own graves. what concerns me is that they are digging MY grave, and the grave of my family, some of whom are guilt ridden white psychotics digging hard enough on their own, and don’t need the help of other guilt ridden white fools. it is time to repel the invasion. ok with me if we send the guilt ridden white psychotics home with them.

  • cartimandua

    We now have DNA which can discover where they come from. Train them fund them and send them back as new small businesses to the nearest safe country . Use the aid budget to do it.

  • Brogan75

    This is a disaster and I’m afraid Europe is doomed.There is no hope.

    • We’re not doomed, but the near future will be – ahem! – dramatic. And it won’t go the way multiculturalists think it will.

    • Richard

      Having lived in Africa, I am afraid I must agree with you. If you have an average IQ of 70, there is very little you can do to improve your situation, other than being parasitic. That is the hand nature has dealt, sadly.

  • AverageGuyInTheStreet

    If Africans continue to fail to make anything of their continent, then perhaps its time to let evolution take it course and hand over to peoples better able to organise and succeed.

    • Bonkim

      inevitable. Nature will triumph.

      • Richard

        Not if the Left and Bill Gates et al. have anything to do with it.

  • Ized Fohssil
  • Infidelissima

    Muslims and/or Africans seem to be incapable of living in peace with their own, within their own countries, under their own laws.
    What are the chances they will integrate amongst us?

    • Bonkim

      Silly question! They are not coming to integrate.

      • Infidelissima

        it was rhetorical

        • Bonkim

          Serious business beyond joking.

  • Precambrian

    Maybe if Scotland goes independent and SNP, all the migrants will pass through Italy, Spain, France and England, up to the highlands…..

  • Bonkim

    If I lived in Lampadusa I would keep watch with a machine gun to keep invaders from landing.

    • Verbatim

      That’s a violent and extreme reaction. These people are human beings and shooting them isn’t the answer. A strong polity and border controls are the answer. I’m afraid Europe doesn’t have “the chops”.

      • Bonkim

        Democracy will not achieve that. It is all out war for existence and those that don’t have much to lose will take greater risks. Affluence breeds weakness and the West will just yield.

        • Richard

          Europeans are unable understand that other people are different to them.

          • Bonkim

            ‘European’ like African and Asian comprise a whole range of cultures and mindsets – so many Europeans have difficulty understanding or accommodating other European cultures.

          • Richard

            If you have lived in Africa, you will see there is much more that binds Europeans or Africans together than binds them to each other. Having grown up in Africa, I can travel to Poland or Hungary and tell you that I am in Europe, as surely as I can be in South Africa or Sudan and tell you that I am in Africa.

          • Bonkim

            Depends on whether you compare the similarities or differences between societies and also history of the locations you are comparing with. Poland may be alien to someone from Britain compared with say the US, India or Hong Kong, even South Africa. You will find language and common history have more to do with that than ethnicity, and religion. Similarly for the Spanish or Italian South America more familiar.

          • Richard

            On a superficial level, yes. South Africa is different because of the large (though diminishing) European element in the population. Spend a few years in a place, and you’ll start noticing the differences. India becomes more foreign than Poland, South Africa more than Australia (relatively). Despite the best efforts of the “equality” brigade, people simply are not equal in their cultural output.

            But none of this matter anymore, because Europe is finished. Now all we can do is hope we aren’t put to the sword by our new masters.

          • Bonkim

            Defeatist attitude. Human societies are driven by ideas. The unsuccessful perish. Equally all civilizations have their life-cycles. Unless you can come up with new ideas in a changing world and/or adapt and change, will become extinct. Don’t expect everyone to look up to you just because of what you say – people are led by results and if they see your message leads to success they will listen.

          • Richard

            The Left makes genitalia and fecundity the only things that matter. We are reduced to the jungle. Brits continue to vote for Labour and the Left in huge numbers, so my natural conclusion is that the society is so consumed by self-hate that it is dying. In medicine we have terms for an inward-turned immune system. For the patient to survive, radical steps are needed, but the patient has to be prepared to do what is necessary.

          • Bonkim

            That is what democracy is all about. Don’t expect everyone to subscribe to extremes.

  • MathMan

    Ask yourself why these people haven’t been able to build functioning societies of their own on the most resource-rich continent on earth. Then ask yourself how these people would become useful members of western societies. The fact is they come to Europe to live off us in perpetuity -they want what we have built and they can’t build. In return they bring violence, disease and social disorder. There is simply no up-side to having them and plenty of downside.

  • James

    Where do the migrants get 4000 to pay for the journey?

  • q-pantagruel

    It really doesn’t matter what their motivation is or whether they are (or are just called) refugees, asylum seekers, economic migrants or huddled masses longing to be free. And it may be true that they are bringing to Europe the very misery they are fleeing from and you can argue that, really, they should fix their own home instead of ruining ours. All of that may be true and it doesn’t matter. They are colonisers. And when it comes to colonisation, the only thing that counts is numbers. Big numbers. Big numbers will win every time and the colonisers write the history.

    I am minded to reflect on the last big example of a successful mass immigration and colonisation – that of the Europeans to North America during the 18th & 19th centuries. We all know how that worked out for the indigenous population. Can’t happen here? Read Camp of the Saints – it’s happening right before our eyes. And just like the Europeans, they will not be our friends and will not embrace us to sing Kumbaya together. Once the shock of the journey and relief at the safe landing set in they will feel resentment and entitlement. As far as they’re concerned, we owe them. And it is a debt that will always be due and can never be repaid. It will always be payback time. And it will not be pleasant. We must be mad. Literally mad. Where have I heard that before?

    • doctorseraphicus

      Big numbers will win every time and the colonisers write the history.

      Not sure these folk write anything.

  • Cyril Sneer

    We take them in, many more will come, many more will drown.

    I think this situation just highlights the idiocy of the left and their total inability to see reality outside of their warped ideology – Australia has already proven what the right choice is, and there is only one right choice we can make. A choice that will save lives. Send them back, all of them with the message that illegally entering a country will not provide you with anything except a ticket back home.

    • James Jones

      “the idiocy of the left and their total inability to see reality”

      Please do not confuse something you do not understand with stupidity. It is difficult to understand why the Left want to destroy our civilisation, but they are not stupid, they are succeeding. It may indeed be impossible to save ourselves now so they may have succeeded.

      PS I do not understand it either of course.

      • Richard

        It is called autoimmune disease, an example of which is rheumatoid arthritis. Without strong intervention, the patient is crippled. Sound familiar?

  • Verbatim

    Yesterday I was in Bad Ischl in Austria on a tourist cable car. It was the first day of the tourism season and there were 76 “refugees” with families there as a group, chaperoned by do-gooders and asylum activists (you can recognize these tyes instantly – they speak Austro-German and have that beatific look on their faces). The restaurant owner told us (the only other tourists there apart from the group) that they had ordered “halal” sausage for their lunches and “cordial” (one or two ordered “beers”). All looked healthy and sported the latest in mobile phone technology. I was boiling with rage about the women and children abandoned in camps in Africa, starving to death and without the means to portray themselves to the world as “asylum seekers”. This is the greatest rort being perpetrated in Europe in the modern age.

    I also wondered about the attitude of yesterday’s group towards the host nation that they specifically ordered “halal”, having only just arrived in Europe and not in a position to dictate anything. Clearly, they know what they want and how to get it!!!

    I predict HUGE problems for Europe in the future; absolutely HUGE. And the people of Austria over 40 don’t want them or want to know about them. They’re bloody angry, as am I. Fortunately I leave Europe in 3 weeks and won’t ever return.

    Be very careful what you wish for, ladies and gentlemen.

    • Bonkim

      Why are you running away instead of staying and joining the cause?

      • Verbatim

        Who said I was ‘running away’? We have enough on our plate in Australia without me having to go in to bat for Europe as well. And you have the far bigger problem because we’ve stared them down.

        I want to know exactly WHEN it became acceptable to regard people as our ‘equals’ and invite them into our countries – those same who keep women behind veils, genitally mutilate them, ride donkeys, arrange marriages for them at age 14, drag water from wells, prevent women from driving cars or socially participating, prevent young people from drinking alcohol. The list goes on.

        I WANT YOU TO PROVIDE ME WITH THE EXACT DATE, please.

        • Richard

          It is a post-War phenomenon. With the end of Empire came the inability to control the movement of these people. As soon as more able people (the colonial powers) left, the former subject-peoples hadn’t a hope in hell of being able to continue with same services they had, or the same development. They stagnated, and the only way they might have a chance was by following their former rulers home. That is what has happened. That, together with the toxic Leftism (ironically, the Soviet Union actually won the Cold War, we just think they lost) we have engendered, has finished us off.

          You cannot make people open their eyes if they are wilfully blind. The old saying is so apposite: there are none so blind as those who will not see.

    • Richard

      It is almost impossible to get Europeans to open their eyes. They are wilfully blind, and their governments oppressive. Europeans (including Brits) think that being “democratic” means being able to object to somebody’s building plans, or being able to put a cross in a box every now and then. It isn’t just those things. It is doing what’s best for your country, but these Lefties and governments (including Britain’s) do what is best for themselves and their political careers. Europe is like a prize cow being eyed by a pack of lions: defenceless, stupid and only interested in fulfilling the basic desires of grazing and procreation.

      Europeans are shockingly dense and naive.

      • Verbatim

        I found this a compelling and disturbing view with which I whole-heartedly agree. My late father used to say “mankind goes either steeply up or steeply down”. No prizes for guessing the modern geographical inclination!! I’ll be dead and buried but my children will have to live in this world of the ‘wilfully blind fat-cats’ of the western world.

        How long do they imagine that it will remain that way for them? And I loved the metaphor of the prized cow which, of course, is designed entirely for the milk it can yield and the calves it can throw.

        • Richard

          Those people with the beatific expressions you saw in Bad Ischl care nothing about the consequences of what they do. They know that they are going to heaven, and that is all that they care about, the devil take the hindmost. In that, they are not much different from Muslims who vote for the party that is best for Islam, since that is what they believe they are compelled to do. In neither case does reason make an appearance. It is all just narcissism and self-love, and hedging your bets against the devil. These “asylum-seekers” and Africans who have destroyed their own countries as surely as they will destroy Europe are simply the stage-props in their own, personal morality plays. The bonds of nation and country, having been destroyed by the EU and the Left, are no longer there to offer any counterpoint.

          Europe died between 1939 and 1945. What we are experiencing are simply the obsequies.

          • Verbatim

            I don’t agree with your last paragraph, but the rest of your comments have a real ring of truth about the motivations of the pro-asylum/Christian lobby. Narcissism certainly. And the point has been well made about the destruction of their own countries by the very people fleeing to Europe. Again I say, it’s not about thinking and logic from the Left – it’s about EMOTING. And moral vanity. And about comments I made earlier; a willingness to destroy a ‘system’/society which didn’t work for very many people who align themselves as Left wing. A stark picture if ever there was one, and one which was frighteningly captured in David Lean’s film of Pasternak’s novel “Dr. Zhivago”.

            There is an old expression; CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME. That expression is no longer heard because of the post-modern tendency to throw out all values older than an sms message on an iPhone!!

            Some of these immigrants will be decent folk, but can we afford to engage in a social lottery with uninvited guests?
            And I ask again, “what would the face of Europe now be if the French abandoned their country in 1791 instead of facing the revolution”?

          • Richard

            We are, in fact, only now seeing the real consequences of the American and French Revolutions. The final battle is the removal of the “inequality” brought about by capitalism. You see, despite what we see around us, we know that everybody can be a brain-surgeon, mathematician, long-distance runner, javelin-thrower, and so on. The idea of legal equality has been replaced with actual equality of body and mind.

            “Africa for the Africans! ” was the cry used by millions in the 1960s. “Freedom! Better starve than be a fat slave!” is what I remember.

            I’m afraid that what I saw in Africa, and the way Europe caved into the party that shouted the loudest in African states, not necessarily the ones that had most support, showed me that Europeans are cowardly weaklings. Experience tells me that, like some of those proto-Greek societies inhabiting the Greek Isles who were subsumed under the weight of what today we call “asylum-seekers”, Europeans are too thick to respond. All they want is pleasure, and partying, and faux “freedom”. Somebody – always the Left – comes up with some “official” narrative, and all the ducklings (voters, the press, the chattering classes) fall in line. So it was, for instance, with Mandela and others. Rational facility goes out of the window. The industry of lies turns up its volume, opposition is criminalised.

            If there are any art-galleries you want to see, operas, plays, anything mildly intellectual even, go soon. They won’t be around for that much longer.

          • Damaris Tighe

            I would also add that it’s only an ‘evil society’ that stops men becoming women & vice versa, in their view. Boundaries, even the most natural ones, are an offence to absolute egalitarianism because they say ‘no – you shall not pass’. The same applies to the morphing of legal equality for gays & the right to civil partnership (both of which I supported) into SSM.

          • Verbatim

            As it happens, it’s for that very reason I choose to live in Vienna so much of the time (months at a time every couple of years). But now that demographic has changed so much the Austrians say they fear not having an Olympic ski team within just 20 years. But what are they doing about it??

            All the people seem to care about are phones – taking pictures, chattering as loudly as possible in public places – stroking, massaging, looking adoringly at and admiring their gadgets and not much else I’m afraid. You see them ALL THE TIME checking their phones as though this practice were a postmodern form of OCD (which it is). Try being on public transport in Vienna which is jamb-packed full of ‘migrants’ and tourists all yelling on phones in 10 different languages simultaneously. It’s not pretty.

          • Richard

            I was last in Vienna more than ten years ago. My wife wants to go back, I would rather remember it as it was. It is remarkable how Europe’s politicians treat their own countries like colonies which they can order and control from on-high, and their own people like subject-people. The mentality is unfathomable to me, but then I suppose I did grow up outside Europe. Even in the poorest and most powerless nations, I have never seen people treat themselves and their fellows with less self-respect. They have no dignity, and care absolutely nothing for their own children or societies. They revel in their own abasement. It is pathological, and must be the result of some sort of organic process in the brain, because it is antithetical to the driving impulse to survive. Only some mis-firing can make you actively want to self-destruct.

            Europe and the UK are sick, there is no question about this. I must say, I am disgusted. It is quite difficult to live with a feeling of disgust at the people around you.

          • Verbatim

            I’m not sure Europe and the UK are the only countries which are “sick”. Pretty much most of the third world is in steep decline after not even being in the ascendant for one minute.

            I think ATROPHY is a better way to describe it; the kind of bloating one experiences are being sated by just too much. Others call it ENTROPY. The Roman Empire knew all about it. Plenty of experts and scholars have heaps to say about it. One of those is ‘The Culture of Narcissism: American Life in the Age of Diminishing Expectations’ by Christopher Lasch. Here you can see the self-absorption so typical of the world today with is eating democratic nations from the inside out. And there are plenty of other frightening accounts apart from these. In short, there are lots of people out there who share our views!

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture_of_Narcissism

          • Richard

            Thank you, I have ordered that volume.

            When I say the UK and Europe are sick, I mean in terms of self-hate. The Third World countries are simply acting as they always have. One can have no expectations of them, but at least they don’t have the same self-hatred issues. Generally, they have extremely positive self-concept, over-inflated, if anything.

          • 1664averygoodyear

            I have come to the same conclusion myself. The entirety of western history post 1945 is best viewed as an attempt to come to terms with, and atone for, the horrors of the Second World War, seeing their ghastly apotheosis in the fires of Belsen and Auschwitz.

            A narrative that places the blame firmly on the soldiers of White European Nationalism has been formed. And the vehemence of the reaction is such that this narrative spreads to include the basic concept of European society. The very idea of Europe and the West has been fundamentally rejected.

  • saffrin

    Lampedusa, IS gateway to Europe.

    • Infidelissima

      You forgot an ‘IS’

  • Ali

    Never mind how anywhere in Europe ‘copes’, let’s stop looking at this issue from the Imperialist viewpoint. The left take the imperialist view that these cunning people who have turned up on our shores against the odds are just the sort of fit survivors our capitalist economy needs in order to prop it up. They are always potentially hard workers, ‘more people=more brains’ as one journalist informed me in a Facebook row the other day. The argument is made that they can come here, pick crops, weed on organic farms, wipe bottoms and generally do those unpleasant jobs the natives of western Europe feel are beneath them, that is if they aren’t busy inventing the next internet.

    The argument is always made that massive increases in immigration have caused massive increases in wealth. It is never suggested that people are imported to meet growing demand for labour, the argument of the left ignores the fact that there are countries with huge populations whose economies don’t grow. So let’s assume they are right. It is important always to make the assumption that the left are right if you want to win an argument.

    If these brilliant, hard working young, healthy men all leave their native countries and come here to try and help satiate our Western capitalist greed( which by its nature is impossible because the system depends on growth) Then how can they help build their war torn lands, help their own aging populations and invent all the things the African continent needs to develop its own economies.

    It can’t. So let’s here it for anti immigration from the third world to the greedy first world. Let’s encourage the healthy, fit cunning clever survivors to return home and do their duty to their native lands, for the future stability of the third world.

    • Bonkim

      Invisible hand pushes both capital and labour to maximise profit and earnings. The hand is not judgemental about nations and their needs – only where profits can be maximised.

  • Verbatim

    On the weekend 6.000 African ‘migrants’ arrived by boat from Lampadusa. At the same time Ethiopian Jews rioted in Tel Aviv claiming “discrimination”. Then in the USA in Texas some Muslims have shot at people who were drawing cartoons of the Prophet. At the same time, these people will not learn the language of the ‘host’ country and will not integrate.

    Which part of this doesn’t the Left get? All of it!! And the rest of you will pay and pay dearly for going along with their dangerous cant and ‘discrimination’ and ‘equality’ from people who can only ever exploit those terms and not understand their social value or meaning.

    Won’t be long now, ladies and gentlemen…. I’m off back to Australia soon, thank God.

    • goodsoldier

      You are absolutely right. Too bad you are leaving. We need your voice. Nevertheless, bon voyage.

    • James Jones

      “the price for apathy”

      It’s hardly apathy when the Tories and Labour conspired together on the unmandated mass immigration policy. Every newspaper and TV channel is full of “all immigrants are better then most British” headlines and articles.

      The traitors should all be in the Tower of London.

  • mike_in_brum

    All this could have been avoided if Italians were not the cowards they are and had sunk those boats!

  • scampy

    Islam has failed and the head bangers better admit it or point to one islamic country success ?

    • James Jones

      “better admit it or point”

      No.

      The failure of civilisation that is islam is coming here. Within a few decades Western Europe will be a war torn hell hole that makes nothing at all, just like the Middle East is today.

      That is what David Cameron and Ed Miliband are aiming for with their joint mass immigration policy.

  • james cormack

    Somalia was also colonised by the Italians.

  • EnglandLaments

    The answer to the problem of the economic migrants attempting the perilous journey by boat from Libya is a simple one. This grotesque and dangerous trade in human beings would be stopped in its tracks for the benefit of all concerned, if the political leaders of Europe would adopt the one single tactic which would work – turn the boats round and deposit the people back on the beaches from where they embarked!
    It is the only solution for Europe and it is the only long term compassionate solution to the whole problem.

  • yodaddy51

    I’m telling you the people of Europe are out of their minds if they let those large number of Blacks stay.They are nothing but trouble.Christ cant they see the history of the US with regards to Negros? Is that what you want? Those people will be nothing a drag on your economy. Crazy

  • EnglandLaments

    The answer my friends is obvious to all but our blind political leaders across Europe – scrap the no longer fit for purpose asylum system, turn the boats round and put these economic migrants back on the beaches where they embarked. Such a policy would stop the people trafficking, the boats and the drownings overnight.
    The alternative is that people continue to spend their savings on risking a dangerous passage where death by drowning is a distinct possibility and Europe continues to drown under a migrant flood which is otherwise instoppable!

  • Thorsted

    Europe should abolish the human right and asylum conventions. These convention has almost become normative empire by law replacing the old empires. These people should no have any rights in Europe. People form the 3.rd can only be a burden to Europe.

  • Raz Matazz

    More mayhem: http://lat.ms/1BacqYK

  • Geoffroy Pierrevert

    I can see the spirt of hard work work and integration in her eyes. No, I can’t.

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