Rod Liddle

It’s not Netanyahu’s fault that Jews in Europe are afraid

Blame the liberal left politicians and media for failing to confront violent anti-Semitism

21 February 2015

9:00 AM

21 February 2015

9:00 AM

Have you seen the prices for houses in Israel? Astronomical, mate. You wouldn’t believe it. An arid and perpetually embattled country which everyone has recently decided to hate, and with a bloody great big wall topped with razor wire running through the middle of it — I’d have expected the cost of a nice four-bed would be comparable to what you’d pay in Rwanda, say, or Myanmar. Not a chance. Down south, in Eilat, it’s millions and millions and millions of quid, just to be oven-basted by the extremist sun and then eaten by a shark. It’s not much better in the nicer parts of Tel Aviv, either, such as Jaffa — more than a million pounds for 150 square metres of living space, without a view of the torpid Med.

I suppose you could get a decent-sized home in Sderot comparatively cheaply — a mile from the border with Gaza and described (although probably not in the estate agent’s brochure) as the ‘bomb shelter capital of the world’. Every day or so, a rocket pings across from the supposed nation of Palestine, bang, you’re dead. That would keep you on your toes, no? Except not many Sderotis are killed this way, because Israel is incomparably more competent than Hamas and shoots the rockets down, the rockets sent by a terrorist administration which has made a living out of pretending to be a victim and somehow convincing the PC world of this delusion.

There are the newer settlements on the West Bank, out towards the River Jordan — they might be good value, couple of olive trees in the back yard, lights of Amman twinkling in the distance. But do you want to be woken in the middle of the night by some maniacal jihadi with the IQ of a bowl of stewed okra tunnelling into your open-plan kitchen-diner, a pound of Semtex taped to his stomach, yelling the Allahu Akbar business? Probably no worse than living in Tower Hamlets or Bradford, mind.


I checked all these house prices because once in a while I get sick to the back teeth of this country and think I should remove the family to somewhere more congenial. Slo-venia, for example. I’ve often thought of Slovenia. And sometimes Slovakia — up, up, in the foothills of the Tatra Mountains with its wolves and bears. And more recently Israel — nice climate, don’t you think? But also Israel because of what has been happening lately and our — the West’s — response to it all. Sadly, I am not Jewish, so I’d have to lie on the immigration forms. But I’ve pretended to be Jewish once before — as a student, when I rather took to an Orthodox Jewish girl called Sarah. She didn’t twig I was goyim for ages. Things progressed so quickly that I came close to having the snip — the things we boys do, or did, in order to facilitate sexual intercourse. But I digress.

The good news is that the Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, has told the Jews of western Europe that they should emigrate to his country, and therefore I think it’s possible that I could sneak in under cover. I think it’s fair to say that I would out-Israeli most of the new immigrants. Western European Jews are flooding to Israel because of homicidal Muslim attacks — in France, Denmark, Sweden and here in the UK too. Jews targeted because of their race. Racist murders, racist assaults. A French Jewish journalist, Zvika Klein, was filmed walking through the Islamic State suburbs of Paris and being spat at, threatened, abused at every pace.

Netanyahu has been attacked, natch, by the European liberal left for his offer of sanctuary — and that’s because these attacks upon Jews are possible only with the connivance of the liberal left politicians and media. The politicians who hate Israel and have bought whole the canard that the Palestinians are blameless victims, and who do not wish to accept what we all know is true — that modern Islam harbours a murderous attitude toward Jews; it wishes them to be wiped out and exterminated. It is not just a few extremists. If you think that, you are kidding yourself. Netanyahu knows that too many of us have been kidding ourselves. For too long. The animus and hatred is deep-rooted, and given succour by the gentile left, which prefers, for the sake of its own vacuous ideology of multiculturalism, to keep its eyes shut.

The bien-pensant attacks on Netanyahu were epitomised by the idiotic Piers Morgan, writing in the Daily Mail. I suppose one should not be surprised about what emanates from a man with a face which so closely resembles a puckered anus. Remember 9/11, Morgan wrote: many Jews were killed on that day. But that didn’t herald a mass emigration to Israel. We all stood together, united against extremist violence!

Oh, you sap, you halfwit. How can you not see that what is happening now is of a different order entirely? The number of anti-Semitic attacks rising exponentially. Drongo jihadis opening fire on synagogues and Jewish shops — not on Israeli embassies, not on Netanyahu, but on ordinary Jews. Can you imagine the response from the politicians if these sorts of attacks had been committed by white Christians against Muslims? Or indeed by Christians against Jews? And yet when it happens to be Muslims murdering Jews there is no great furore about this fact; instead it is swept to one side: simply a case of ‘extremists’ versus ‘ordinary people’. No, that is not what it is. But given their investment in multiculturalism, the politicians will not accept this obvious point. If our Jewish community gets the hell out to Sderot or Jaffa, it will be this wilful and cowardly blindness which has propelled them there.

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  • Dr Rip

    Yes, but sadly not news anymore

  • freddiethegreat

    Excellent. Astounding to find a journalist – a member of a group dedicated, like lawyers, to lying – speaking the whole truth.
    What I miss is Mossad. Where are they? Why not arrange a few accidents to certain RoPs?
    Can anyone say?

    • Mike

      What a breath of fresh air to read an article telling it how it is.
      Cue ‘islamophobia’ rants.

      • Read some history

        Absolutely so! Thank you Rod!

        And Piers Morgan sounds just like the Mr ‘Random Attacks’ resident in the White House!

      • Terry Field

        Very well said

    • Donafugata

      I’m a huge Mossad fan too, they are incredibly smart.
      Compared to the ham-fisted CIA and the useless MI5 and 6 Mossad are ninja.

      • GraveDave

        Compared to the ham-fisted CIA and the useless MI5

        And who do you think taught the ‘incredibly smart ‘ Mossad to start with? As for MI5, they might be as corrupt and rotten as all else but they cant be doing such a bad job if most of us are still here.

        Reasons to be Cheerful part……

        • John

          Most of us are still here because you’re more likely to die by falling out of your own bed than an act of terrorism, you paranoid nut.

          • mohdanga

            “Most of us are still here because you’re more likely to die by falling out of your own bed than an act of terrorism, you paranoid nut.” Then we can look forward to the abandonment of security checks at airports (because Muslim terrorists pose no threat). After all, relatively few people will be killed by airplanes blowing up so there’s no use spending time and money preventing this.

          • wince

            The likelyhood of death by falling out of bed has stayed consistent within the law of averages, the other has increased exponentially.

          • Yes – it has increased from an absolute impossibility to extraordinarily unlikely.

            Do I need to point out to you that of the 65 million people living in Britain, since a decade ago, we have had one death – Lee Rigby since July 2005. That makes a one in 650 million chance in any one year. Murder in this country is already one in a hundred thousand in any one year, so the suggestion that we are at risk is utterly insane.

      • victor67

        Read Kill Khalid by Paul McGeough to find out how smart Mossad and Netanyahu are. They have had their f–k ups like every other Intelligence service.
        Its actually quite a good read for non-fiction.

        • Guest

          if Mossad were not smart, Israel would not exist anymore
          same for every single Israeli leader

          British leaders are smart: that’s why we have over 2000 mosques in our country and ROtherham

          • Mention of which prompts the inevitable question .Plod managed to arrest the hundreds (1000s?) of implicated child- abusing R0theram gang-rapists yet? Thought not. Too close to a postal-balloting election?

          • bobmattfran

            Rubbish the only reason that Israel exists is because of the support of the Zionist?AIPAC controlled USA, Grow up!

        • Dogsnob

          My, my, you mean they are not 100% infallible? Bummer.

      • Ivan Ewan

        Bad comparison. Mossad should be compared to MI6. MI5 is the Shin Bet equivalent. But yeah, the MI5 is rubbish.

      • disqus_QlHYblaSnt

        Yes they would need to be pretty smart and connected to get explosives into the towers then convince the world that muslins where responsible. They are certainly resourceful.

        • Dogsnob

          No aeroplanes were involved then?

        • Dogsnob

          …and no plain weave light cotton either?

      • bobmattfran

        Smart? Please nothing more than a bunch of rabid cowardly modern day Nazi thugs.

        • jack

          What does cowardIce have to do with intelligence? I am an Oncologist, and in my business I have seen many people die. When informed of terminal cancer, it is the smartest people are the ones to fall apart, run from reality, or even start blubbering like idiots. In fact, it seems to me, that the smarter they are, the less they able to deal with the imminence of death. On the other hand, simple uneducated people who have even a tad of religious upbringing, seem able to deal with the news, and get on with the job of planning treatment, snipping off the lose ends, saying their goodbye’s to loved ones, and leaving this world with a bit of style and grace. Generally, I find your remark to be that of a total Philistine. One who knows nothing of western civilization, or of the struggle for identity and existence. Your remark reveals a person who knows nothing about human beings or about life.

    • Mow_the_Grass

      These people the ones that threaten Israel – are always in the ‘gun sights’ awaiting suitable opportunities

      • Damaris Tighe

        I just wanted to say I’ve read your post in my inbox, but it has been deleted from the thread – probably because you wrote n*zis.

        • victor67

          Yes aren’t all Israel enemies Nazi’s if you believe the Hasbara.

          • Damaris Tighe

            See how you make assumptions? It was about the original n*zis & what they did to his family. Any objections?

    • Roger Hudson

      Ah, Mossad, the heirs to Irgun and Lehi. We need there help like we need ISIS.

      • jzsnake

        It’s “their” help ignoramus. LOL stupid.

      • Damaris Tighe

        If Mossad is the heir to anything it’s Haganah, the precursor to the IDF.

      • Eurocentric

        You do need help: an education would help. Start with spelling and then move on to general knowledge.
        Are you saying that every intelligence service in the world is rooted in what is politically referred to today as “militant” groups? Or would you be only referring to the Israeli intelligence service simply because it’s just your type Ron Liddell is referring to.
        As for not needing their help, a word in your ear: do you think that everything your government knows about Middle Eastern terrorism is solely from MI5 or MI6 and/or the CIA? Without the Mossad, be assured that you and your country wouldn’t know an awful lot about Isis/jihadi activities right near you, and you’d be pretty much up to your neck – literally – with the consequences.

        • Mike

          Aren’t Isis/Jihadi activities sponsored by Mossad then?

      • RandomGuy

        Oh please Irgun and Lehi were terrorists who were hunted down by the Hagana[Jews know how to stop their terrorist, Muslims don’t] during the Hunting Season(read about this) before the state of Israel was founded. Irgun and Lehi are gone. IDF is the continuation of Hagana, and Mossad was created by Ben-Gurion in 1949 as an Israeli intelligence agency. Completely unrelated factions. The Mossad later established the famous Kidon unit who did Operation Wrath of God, they managed to kill the Palestinians who murdered the Israeli Olympic team in 1972’s Munich Massacre. More about this you can see in the movie “Munich”.

        • bobmattfran

          How selective your memory is. You failed to metion that these East Europen scum murdered british soldiers in Jerusalem in 1948, but that would destroy your crawling praise for a buncch of thugs.

          • RandomGuy

            I despise Irgun and Lehi that is why I say they were hunted down during The Hunting Season(again Read about this). Ben Gurion and Hagana wanted British support, that is why the Jewish Brigade was created. Plus, do you think Arabs were all lovey-dovey? Read about the Arab Revolt in Palestine(Look who helped the Britons and how many Britons died).
            I consider Lehi and Irgun a terrorist organization, and it does not exist anymore. Sadly, Hezbollah for one, is considerd a terror group by the entire Western World, yet Lebanon never disarmed it like the UNSC demanded it to. Again, Jews know how to deal with their extremists.

          • Kennybhoy

            “I consider Lehi and Irgun a terrorist organization, and it does not exist anymore.”

            One of the first acts of the new State of Israel was to declare them to be such. * That said, members of said terrorist organizations, such as Menachem Begin, went on to found legal political parties and form Israeli governments…

            * Edited after I hit post too soon! 🙂

          • RandomGuy

            Yep, a little sketchy but he served Israel well as he successfully made peace with Egypt. The first Arab nation to make peace with Israel and recognize Israel. So he had his bad and he had his good. Who knows if Israel-Egypt peace was possible without him.

        • Mike

          More about this you can see in the movie “Munich”.
          Which is a twisted version of what really happened.

          • RandomGuy

            So you say that 11 Israelis were not killed on German soil by Palestinian terrorists? Seems pretty accurate.

      • Innit Bruv

        Irgun who were responsible for the kidnapping and hanging of two British soldiers, The Stern Gang who so anti British they tried to forge an alliance with Nazi Germany in 1941.
        Where do your loyalties lie? Not with Britain it would seem.

        • Dogsnob

          That was then, this is now. Buck up.

          • bobmattfran

            Nothing has changed the smae bunch in Israel today still behave like Nazis, supported by both the USA and the lapdog UK.

          • Dogsnob

            And which bunch would you like to be in Israel tomorrow and how should they behave?

        • Guest

          you shall experience muslim loyalties soon enough, innit bruv?

          LOL, same way you lovely muslims are loyal to each other….

          • Innit Bruv

            Mister Drivel, you obviously can’t read, or maybe you’re just plain thick!!!
            I have already told you in a previous post: I am not a Muslim, I think that some of the UK’s Muslims could do with some reeducating.
            Indeed I think the UK would be better off if some of these Muslims relocated to places like Saudi Arabia or Pakistan.
            If you expect people to respond to you the very least you could do is read what they have to say properly.

        • Kennybhoy

          Israel was not founded by Irgun or the Stern Gang. The mainstream Zionist armed forces during the mandate regularly fought and killed them. One of the first acts of the new state of Israel was to designate Irgun and other such groups as terrorist organizations. David Ben Gurion characterized them as Nazis, and he was not being rhetorical. The domestic politics of Israel are envenomed by this history to this day.

          • Innit Bruv

            It didn’t prevent Menachem Begin nor Yitzhak Shamir from becoming Prime Ministers of Israel……

        • Shmalkandik

          Well, not exactly.

          Britains’s CID put paid o LEHI (Stern’s gang) before WW2.
          LEHI reached out toe Mussolini and not Germany back in the mid 1930s. Lots of reasons for the attempted Italian connection. The Fascist party in Italy had memebrs who were Jews, as did the Army. Indeed, Fermi’s wife’s father was an officer in the Italian navy!, Mussolini was known to be philo-semitic, and eager to increase his power in the Mediterranean against Britain.

          Ironically,it is Britain itself that is responsible for creating the nucleus of the Palmach- thanks to Ord Wingate – and the regular British Army (Jewish Brigade, Italy, 1944), and the Shhin Bet (SOE veterans).

          History is full of ironies..

          Man plans -God laughs.

          • Innit Bruv

            Nothing I didn’t already know.

      • Dogsnob

        Sort your ‘there, their, they’re’ out will you.

    • John Clegg

      Rod thank you again, You’re just about the best writer around at the moment.

      P.S. please watch your back though, it’s a dangerous world we live in now and you can expect little help from politically correct “plod”

      • This remark wins the prize for paranoid exaggeration of the week…. Hold hard there….. Sorry …. Paranoid exaggeration of the year.

  • Damaris Tighe

    Very true Rod. Last month when I mentioned the attack on the kosher supermarket in the same sentence as Charlie Hebdo (well, both attacks did happen didn’t they), I was accused of making it ‘all about the Jews’, natch! Ironically the only person who brought the Jews into the convo was that poster himself. He was implying that I should airbrush the kosher supermarket shooting out of the story. Which raises the question, why should a passing reference which wasn’t untrue in any aspect cause so much anger?

    Over the last few days I’ve noticed an atmosphere of putting the Jews on trial on Spectator threads, some of which were nothing to do with Jews or Israel. It reminds me of the widespread belief in the so-called ‘Jewish Problem’ of the 1930s (apologies to Godwin).

    It’s said that this is the oldest hatred. It’s completely irrational: posts accuse Jews of everything from engineering the collapse of the west to unfair networking – a mental illness which needs to pile on one small out-group the responsibility for every communal & personal problem. That it’s utter madness can be seen in some of these posters who in the very same breath then complain that Jews don’t feel at home in Europe!

    • Donafugata

      Absolutely, Damaris.

      The Jews historically and today have made a considerable and valuable contribution to every society that they have belonged to and have suffered anti-Semitism ranging from extreme to casual.

      By contrast, the other diaspora which has rapidly been colonising Europe and the United States since the millennium are nothing but trouble yet are protected and encouraged to multiply as if an endangered species.

      Israel is acting in self-defence. Some people have become so Vichyfied that they interpret this as aggression.

      • GraveDave

        The Jews are victims of their own success.
        Then there was the Europeans.

        • Damaris Tighe

          ‘The Jews are victims of their own success’: that may be true to today but it’s sometimes forgotten that in the first half of the 20th century there were many poor Jews (tinkers, tailors, peasant farmers) in Eastern Europe. They’re often forgotten because they & their communities were wiped out. Today Poland remembers them with little figurines & theme restaurants for the tourists

          • AJH1968

            Where would savile row be without Jewish Tailors?

        • jzsnake

          A judenrein Europe replaced by Muslims. What professional sports team would make that trade?

      • Hippograd

        The Jews historically and today have made a considerable and valuable contribution to every society that they have belonged to and have suffered anti-Semitism ranging from extreme to casual.

        Karl Marx, for example. A very valuable contribution. Where would modern culture be without him and his disciples?

        • mohdanga

          Every race has its deadbeats and losers. Hitler was born into a Christian society, does that mean Christians have not contributed anything of value? Jews have contributed much more to the betterment of society and the world’s standard of living in proportion to their population.

          • Hippograd

            Every race has its deadbeats and losers.
            Karl Marx is a “loser”? The man whose ideas took control of huge countries like Russia and China? The man whose ideas now dominate Western culture? I suggest you don’t know what you’re talking about.

            Jews have contributed much more to the betterment of society and the
            world’s standard of living in proportion to their population.

            I don’t agree. Karl Marx, Robert Maxwell and Bernie Madoff are three examples of why I don’t. In the UK, we have figures like Sue Berelowitz, the Deputy Children’s Commissioner, telling us how child abuse is “in all communities”, so we mustn’t single any “community” out as worse than any other. For the results of that anti-racist ideology, I refer you to Rotherham and other enriched cities. Funny how Britain has someone called Berelowitz in such a position of influence over child welfare, isn’t it? But then someone called McTavish is probably in charge of child welfare in Israel.

          • mohdanga

            So you name one failed media giant, one criminal and one political theorist whose daffy ideas have caused the deaths of millions of people as representative of the contributions of Jews….what an objective list of names. The Germans produced some of the world’s finest cultural treasures yet also produced Hitler (well, he was Austrian by birth)….so let’s judge Germany by Hitler alone. Have the French nothing to offer? After all they did have Napoleon. What about the Italians? Mussolini and all.
            Was Sue Berelowitz parachuted in from Israel to become the Deputy Children’s Commissioner or was she born in the UK of parents of Jewish descent? Jews have been in the UK for hundreds of years so why is it unusual that they would be in politics, banking, finance, etc? Or should they not be allowed? Her comments regarding Rotherham are unacceptable and she should be fired. Did she make them because she is Jewish and in the thrall of Muslim mass immigration or because she is an idiot?
            And yes, Marx was a ‘loser’ regardless of his influence and the fact that a substantial amount of media and academia still adhere to his ideas. They are bankrupt and failed.

          • Hippograd

            Jews have been in the UK for hundreds of years so why is it unusual that they would be in politics, banking, finance, etc?

            I didn’t say it was unusual. The question is whether their over-representation contributes to the dominance of Marxism in its various forms.

            Her comments regarding Rotherham are unacceptable and she should be
            fired. Did she make them because she is Jewish and in the thrall of Muslim mass immigration or because she is an idiot?

            Unacceptable to whom? Not to the liberal elite in this country. And of course she’s influenced by her membership of a minority that views itself as unjustly persecuted. By spinning the lie that we’re all the same, she’s trying to ensure that minorities aren’t singled out as problems while the majority is overwhelmed demographically. Plainly, some minorities are problems. The minority responsible both for mass immigration and the lying Marxism that worsens its effects may be the biggest problem of all, I suggest.

            And yes, Marx was a ‘loser’ regardless of his influence and the fact that a substantial amount of media and academia still adhere to his ideas. They are bankrupt and failed.

            Yes, Stalin was a loser. Mao was a loser. If an asteroid hits the earth and wipes out the human race, the asteroid will be a loser. By using the term, you’re pretending that Marx doesn’t matter. He does, hugely. So do his many busy disciples, who are drawn disproportionately from one group. And Marx hasn’t “failed”. His ideas dominate modern Western culture. That is not failure: it is huge success. Sue Berelowitz and her lies are one example of how successful Marxism has been. The vacuous narcissist Barack Obama and his two presidencies are another example. The presence of millions of Muslims in the West is a third example.

          • mohdanga

            And yet Israel is a successful, capitalist state, rather surprising if it’s full of Marxists. And in what way are Jews over represented in Britain? They have been successful in business, banking and finance because all other professions were banned to them. Their ‘over representation’ in politics didn’t seem to help them during WWII when 6 million were exterminated.
            There are plenty of white guilt, non-Jewish, Western hating liberals in power who have propagated the Marxist, multi culti, mass immigration disaster. That there are Jews amongst them is no surprise. These people are obtuse and will have their heads on the pikes with the rest of them. The Canadian Jewish Congress is as apologetic and misguided as the Swedish one you referenced; their behaviour will not save them from the Muslim tsunami.
            Marx was so influential as a Jew that pogroms were carried out against the Jews by his disciple Stalin. Jews weren’t trying to get into the USSR, they were trying to get out even though they had lived there for hundreds of years.

          • Hippograd

            And yet Israel is a successful, capitalist state, rather surprising if it’s full of Marxists.

            Again with the a priori logic. Israel is also a state that doesn’t want mass immigration by black Africans and Muslims from Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc. Meanwhile, in Europe and the US, Jewish organizations are all for such immigration. Except into Israel. It’s almost as tho’ what’s good for Israel, where Jews are a majority, isn’t good for the rest of the West, where Jews are a minority.

            Note that cultural Marxism has no problem with capitalism, which is why Trotskyist groups like the British SWP are allies of big business in supporting mass immigration. The Marxists want it because it destroys the nations that experience it, the capitalists want it because they can profit from cheap labour. Greed is short-sighted, especially when the capitalists can leave for Israel if conditions get too bad.

            The Canadian Jewish Congress is as apologetic and misguided as the
            Swedish one you referenced; their behaviour will not save them from the
            Muslim tsunami.

            Yet Jews are famous for their intelligence. In Israel, that intelligence leads them to conclude that Muslim immigration is a no-no. In Canada and Sweden, the same immigration is a yes-yes. Funny, no? It’s almost as tho’ they have different strategies depending on whether they’re a majority wanting to stay that way or a minority wanting allies.

      • Benjamin

        Yes. Without Jews we wouldn’t be living in the result of Critical Theory, concocted by the virtually all-Jewish Frankfurt School! Without Jews Russia would never have tasted the joys of Marxism! Without Jews we wouldn’t have psychiatry and psychoanalysis to help cure the neurosis of being married and monogamous. Jews have enriched our society.

    • AJH1968

      I think what Netanyahu is saying, more than anything, is for the west to adopt a more muscular intolerance of the archaic practices of this ideology (in particular ingraine anti-semetism). Jews do not feel safe for themselves and more importantly their children. Western leader’s canards and amateur theology tripe send the wrong message, to both friend and foe alike. Netanyahu would be remiss, if he did not offer sanctuary to Jew’s in the west.

    • Benjamin

      “It’s said that this is the oldest hatred.”
      Yes, it probably is – 109 different countries have expelled the Jews in some point in their history. Some of the greatest minds in history have fallen prey to this mysterious baseless disease, too – Martin Luther, Shakespeare, Voltaire, Cicero, T.S Eliot, Tacitus, Diderot, Bernard Shaw, to name but a few. Gee, if I didn’t know any better, I’d say there was some kind of reason for it!

      • Damaris Tighe

        Gee, if I didn’t know any better, I’d say that you were a great example of it.

        • Benjamin

          I thought shallow identity politics would be one of the things you would resent in those on the left. Interesting how when it’s in defence of a certain group, you kosher conservatives resort to similar tactics with the same haste as would a liberal in calling you a ‘waycist’ for criticising immigration. Does having a different view to you on this condemn me in and of itself?

          Historically, it’s been a traditionally conservative trait to be suspicious of any and all involvement in foreign affairs, yet because of the Muslims who have mysteriously appeared on all Western shores in this, our collective (and coincidental) suicidal moment of insanity, we have conservatives burbling how much they stand with Israel, and ‘Je suis Juif’ and all that. Don’t worry, folks, you’ll get your wish! We’ll be fighting in a world war on the Zionists’ terms before long, methinks.

          I presume you proclaim to be all for free speech. Why is raising facts about said group beyond the pale, yet we see tens of hundreds of posts about Muslims, and (speaking of the current Zeitgeist, not specifically the Speccy) thousands of posts ripping on Christians? Perhaps, I’d venture, it’s because an incredible amount of money has been spent on making it so.

  • Hippograd

    What were the Board of Deputies and Jewish organizations across Europe doing while Muslims immigrated into Europe in huge numbers? Heartily supporting the flood of vibrancy. After all, Muslims would serve as useful allies against the hate-filled majority. Here is the humanitarian and philanthropist Barbara Lerner Spectre of Paideia, the European Institute for Jewish Studies in Sweden:

    I think there is a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going
    into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.

    That Barbara Spectre Video

    Merely pointing out these facts will of course add to one’s file at the Ministry of Truth and its various franchises.

    • Damaris Tighe

      Europe is filled with NGOs which spout similar rubbish. But you jump on the Jewish ones, no doubt frothing with delight that your prejudice seems to be vindicated.

      • Hippograd

        Europe is filled with NGOs which spout similar rubbish.

        Indeed, Mr Tighe. But they don’t represent the views of the majority, do they? The majority never voted for mass immigration, but it’s happened regardless. Why?

        But you jump on the Jewish ones,

        How irrational of me. As though Lord Levy had any influence on New Labour’s policies towards mass immigration and Iraq! Since when did the one holding the purse-strings call the shots? And as though Grant Shapps and Lord Feldman have any influence on the Tories! Since when did being Tory chairman give one any influence on Tory policy? Of course, if both Tory chairman were Muslims of Iranian descent, that would be a different matter.

        no doubt frothing with delight that your prejudice seems to be vindicated.

        Ah, the good old argument from froth. Am I “prejudiced” if I point out that Muslims are disproportionately responsible for sex crimes, fraud and violence in Europe? No, I’m stating a fact. Am I “prejudiced” if I say that Jews are the single most powerful and influential force behind mass immigration into Europe and the US? No, again I’m stating a fact. Jewish organizations fully support Third World immigration, except in Israel, which is not eager to enrich itself with Pakistanis, Somalis and Nigerians. Good for Israel.

        • mohdanga

          If Jews are so influential in the media and politics then why do the majority of media organizations constantly criticize Jews and Israel?
          Pamela Gellar is Jewish but isn’t allowed into Britain because she has the temerity to question and criticize the West’s acquiescence to Islam and her presence would inflame crybaby Muslims in Britain to do violence. Jewish influence has not helped her.
          In Canada there a few Jewish groups that support restrictions on free speech. They are on the wrong side of this argument and will regret it. They will be swallowed up by the crocodiles (Muslims) they are trying to appease.

          • Hippograd

            If Jews are so influential in the media and politics then why do the
            majority of media organizations constantly criticize Jews and Israel?

            Don’t be ridiculous. A “majority” of the media do not criticize media and certainly don’t criticize Jews. If you disagree, please produce some criticism of Jews, as Jews, from the mainstream media. Criticism of whites and white men in particular, on the other hand, is absolutely constant in all the mainstream media. The BBC spends far less time criticizing Israel than it does promoting mass immigration and anti-racism. With figures like Danny Cohen there, I’m hardly surprised:

            The director of television at the BBC has said he has “never felt so uncomfortable as a Jew in the UK” as it was revealed that antisemitic incidents in Britain hit record annual levels in 2014. Danny Cohen used the platform of a conference in Jerusalem to express his fears over what he identified as growing levels of hostility towards Jewish communities in Britain and in other parts of Europe.
            http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/bbc-director-danny-cohen-rising-uk-antisemitism-makes-me-feel-more-uncomfortable-than-ever-9940985.html

            Read the article and you’ll see he doesn’t once mention WHY anti-semitism is rising: because of Muslims. And who wanted Muslims in Europe? Not the majority: people like Danny Cohen. It’s strange how, with the BBC so anti-Israel, he was welcome in Jerusalem.

            In Canada there a few Jewish groups that support restrictions on free speech.

            By “a few”, you mean “all-or-an-overwhelming-majority”. If you disagree, please produce the many Jewish groups in Canada that support free speech.

            They will be swallowed up by the crocodiles (Muslims) they are trying to appease.

            They’re not trying to “appease” them, they’re trying to use them as allies against the white majority. When the scheme goes disastrously wrong, as it will, they’ll leave for Israel or another nation, leaving their dupes to suffer the consequences.

          • mohdanga

            “A “majority” of the media do not criticize media and certainly don’t criticize Jews.” Absolutely no criticism of Jews by the BBC, CBC, ABC, CNN, etc when it comes to them defending themselves from Hamas rockets. Try again.

            “They’re not trying to “appease” them, they’re trying to use them as allies against the white majority. When the scheme goes disastrously wrong, as it will, they’ll leave for Israel or another nation, leaving their dupes to suffer the consequences.” And why would they do this? Why would the Jews, who are attacked and threatened by Muslims daily, want the peaceful countries they live in to be subsumed by Muslims, who will then have even a more powerful base from which to attack Israel? Jews flee to the West in order to destroy the West by somehow secretly controlling Muslim immigration into the same countries, then high tail to Israel to gloat over their victory. Okey, dokey.

          • Hippograd

            Absolutely no criticism of Jews by the BBC, CBC, ABC, CNN, etc when it
            comes to them defending themselves from Hamas rockets. Try again.

            Please produce examples of the BBC et al criticizing “Jews”, rather than Israelis. Israel is viewed in Marxist terms: it’s an evil white nation attacking an innocent minority. Marxism can turn on those who invented it and promoted it.

            Why would the Jews, who are attacked and threatened by Muslims daily,
            want the peaceful countries they live in to be subsumed by Muslims, who
            will then have even a more powerful base from which to attack Israel?

            Because they hate white Christian Europe and blame it for the Holocaust:

            Regrettably, Sweden’s biggest Jewish organizations are as blind as the
            media when it comes to Nazism with its Jew-hatred, supremacist ideology
            and hunger for world domination. The SKMA (Swedish Committee Against Anti-Semitism), equates Jew-hatred with hatred of Muslims, and attacks
            everyone who will speak out about the true genesis of “Swedish”
            anti-Semitism. The SKMA refuses to talk about Muslim Jew-hatred, and
            gladly walks side by side with imams to protest against “growing
            xenophobia”.

            Sweden’s evil Islamophobia

            The Swedish media, like the British media, is also dominated by Marxists.

            …attacked and threatened by Muslims daily…

            They’re attacked far less than non-Jews. The rape epidemic in Sweden is not directed at Jews, nor were the 1000s of raped victims in Rotherham Jewish. And Rotherham is one small town. Non-Jews have been murdered and raped by Muslims for decades, because that doesn’t matter: they deserve it.

    • GraveDave

      It is strange how so many of these ‘Hate Watch’ organs are run by the Jewish folk. Searchlight, HopenotHate, SPLC,…
      There ‘s literally hundreds of them.
      SPLC — 2013 — Still No Minorities at the Top After 42 Years
      https://rkeefe57.wordpress.com/…/splc-2013-still-no-minorities-at-the-to…

      22 Mar 2013 – Last week, Watching the Watchdogs examined the Southern Poverty Law Center’s latest “hate map” fundraising tool and broke the amazing, …

      • Damaris Tighe

        Hope not Hate is run by a Muslim. Many posters forget the conservative right publications, sites & organisations run by Jews. For example, http://www.frontpagemag.org, Atlas Shrugged. There are many others, mostly in North America, whose names I can’t remember (can another poster help out?). But that doesn’t fit the narrative …

        • Hippograd

          …conservative right publications, sites & organisations run by Jews.

          Neo-conservative. Not the same thing. The Tory party has two Jewish chairmen at present. It’s not a conservative party except in name.

          For example, http://www.frontpagemag.org, Atlas Shrugged. There are many others, mostly in North America, whose names I can’t remember (can another poster help out?). But that doesn’t fit the narrative …

          Atlas Shrugged is a reference to a towering work of genius by the Jewish genius Ayn Rand. Randians are all in favour of open borders and vehemently opposed to Christianity and “racism”. Atlas Shrugged fits the “narrative” perfectly.

      • Hippograd

        It is strange. But Israel doesn’t seem to be full of similar organizations demanding that Israel open its borders to the Third World. Strange again. It’s almost as though a double standard were at work. But thank heaven that the NSA, GCHQ and Unit 8200 are there to make sure no-one draws any uncomfortable conclusions without being kept under close surveillance.

    • Grace Ironwood

      I think Ben Shapiro’s idea that Jewish leftists are deracinated is about right.

  • dan

    interesting Jaffa is mentioned, some Israelis wont even call it that – cos it implies Palestine, doubt there’s many Palestinians live there now!

    • gerontius redux

      “doubt there’s many Palestinians live there now!”
      Why do you think that is dan?

      • dan

        cos homes are worth >1million & every square foot of Israel is contested, especially the nice bits. However – Damaris Tighe has corrected that it still contains a large arab population

        • gerontius redux

          “cos homes are worth >1million
          Lucky old arabs eh?

      • Jambo25

        The Arab population of Israel proper has been increasing fairly rapidly.

    • Damaris Tighe

      There’s still a large Arab population in Jaffa.

      • GraveDave

        Funny that, and named after a seedless orange too.

      • Jambo25

        A very large Arab population. I’ve spoken to a few Arab Christians from there and the Haifa/Aker area in Northern Israel and they were all quite happy to be Israeli citizens.

  • mmac1968

    Rod, excellent article. I have just finished working in Malaysia, where Jews are banned from entering because they are Jewish. A place where All Israeli products are banned, because they come from Israel. The entire countries Muslim population hate Israel and Jews because Jews refuse to curl up and die. Yet Malaysia has no direct beef with Israel other than ALL Muslims must hate them.

    • Damaris Tighe

      I didn’t know that. How do the Malaysian authorities identify non-Israeli Jews?

      • mmac1968

        Damaris, I do not know how, but Malaysian passports state their citizens can not enter Isreal and Malaysia prevents Israelis from entering. I gather this is interpreted by Malaysian authorities as to meaning all Jews, if they can prove they are.

        • rodliddle

          They don’t, Damaris. I know Malaysia quite well. All “Jewish works” are banned from the country. There is not the slightest attempt to differentiate.

          • Damaris Tighe

            Thanks for the info Rod.

          • EUROJESUS

            Time to impose punitive tax tariffs onto products manufactured by the James Dyson Inc.

        • wudyermucuss

          Sounds as bad as Saudi Arabia.
          But it’s confusing,as we all know this has nothing to do with Islam and real Muslims aren’t like this.
          It’s a mystery.

      • Bonkim

        Both Muslims and Jews have theirs circumcised – so identification even more difficult.

    • BillRees

      When I used to work in Malaysia I found the Malays very hospitable.

      But you would be sitting round a dinner table as their guest, and they would remark quite casually that all Jews are descended from apes and pigs. When challenged they smiled and said that it was true because their religion made it clear.

      Those people would have been regarded as moderate Muslims in any other context.

      But it shows that it’s not just the Jihadis, but Islam as a whole where the problem lies.

      • Damaris Tighe

        Good lord …

        • Richard Baranov

          You didn’t know this Islamic belief about Jews, Damaris?

          • Damaris Tighe

            Yes, Richard, I know it, but was still stunned by the image of middle class Malaysians sitting at table & ranting about Jews as apes & pigs.

          • Richard Baranov

            I used to know a large group of Indonesians in Berkeley, they were teaching Gamalan and Javanese dancing. Same behaviour that Bill mentions for Malays. Indonesians were charming to a fault. It’s odd because, of course, their ant-Semitism is abstract in that none of them until they arrived in the U.S.A. had any contact with Jews whatsoever and what was odder was that a large number of the students were Jewish to whom the Indonesians were good friends. Compartmentalization to avoid cognitive dissonance!

      • Bonkim

        More brainwashed than intelligent – people in the East take things they are told by their fellow beings – not sure if they hate the Jews or Israel with any hatred – it is just the done thing in those parts. Apart from that the Malays are an easy going race. You will find most Asians prejudiced against this or that religion/ethnicity – that is how it is in those parts – not concious racism.

      • WTF

        A rather peculiar and ill thought out comment by those ill educated Muslims when you consider both religions ban eating pork and Islam was effectively an extremist off shoot of Judaism.

      • Icebow

        The Lefties are guilty of cultural treason, whether by intention or negligence.

  • Cymrugel

    Well Rod, when you’re right you’re right

  • gerontius redux

    “Things progressed so quickly that I came close to having the snip”

    Good article, but that bit I don’t believe. Surely you could have suggested a reasonable compromise. Tattoed her name across your dick maybe. I mean Hephzibah Chephzibah might have been a tad problematic for the average guy, but most of us could manage Sarah.

    • Damaris Tighe

      Lol.

      • gerontius redux

        Well yeah. Look Damaris, I like a girl as much as the next man but nobody, absolutely nobody, approaches me with a pair of scissors and a glint in their eye.

        • Damaris Tighe

          AJH is braver & more committed than you!

          • gerontius redux

            Young and innocent I suspect.
            As a man of the world, and a few unfortunate misunderstanings, I would need a solemn and binding promise.

    • AJH1968

      Some of the Israeli girls I know are obscenely attractive; a snip is hardly a problem when confronted by a goddess.

      • gerontius redux

        You romantic you.
        See my comment to Damaris..

  • Mara

    Very few journalists dare say things as they are. Rod Liddle and Douglas Murray are two of the few
    Brave ones. It is refreshing to read some true articles among the politically correct ones
    from the many journalists (left). The daily concealments, denials and lies from our politicians
    Have made me loose faith in democracy and that common sense and right and wrong have ceased to exist.

    • victor67

      Liddle just parrots the Murdoch line and has never had an original thought since he was two and Murray is a Narcissistic Islamophobe. He once said things should be made harder for ordinary Muslims in Europe.
      Imagine he would have orgasms if somebody said that about Jews.

      • WTF

        Islamophobe and Islamophobia do not exist as real words, hasn’t anyone educated you that a phobia is an unreal fear of something not based on fact or acts.

        Neither Liddle nor Murray or any right thinking person suffers from Islamophobia as any fear or worry they have towards the Muslim communities is based on Londons bombings, Edingburgh airport firebombing, Lee Rigby and Rotherham, etc, etc. They weren’t phobias, they were real events which gives us cause for fear towards the Muslim communities that spawn these killers, rapists and criminals.

        • Icebow

          As the motto of Bare Naked Islam has it, “It isn’t Islamophobia if they really are trying to kill you”.

          • WTF

            The appeasers & deniers on the left sit in their ivory towers swilling champagne whilst jerking themselves off in a orgasmic frenzy over their moral high ground position. They’re as far away from risk of attack as they can be plus they have an exit route if they finally wake up and realize they got it so wrong.

          • Icebow

            Yep, more or less.

        • Guest

          Islamonausea

          • WTF

            Your’e right in that, we are all ‘sick’ to death with Islam and everything it spawns.

          • hear hear WTF. Absolutely spot on

          • Mara

            Looking at a newpaper nowadays about eighty per cent of the articles are about Islam in one way or another. Either it is about terrorisme in Europe, muslims making demands
            once again or being offended, muslims, muslims…Is, refugees, islamists etc. etc. and i regret to say usually bad or terrifying news. The same goes with news on TV. I have noticed what effect it has on me and it must be the same for other people. What have we done that our lives should be invaded by this death cult? What business is their so called religion of ours? I can remember a time where news were just news. They will never come back.

        • victor67

          If Netanyahu believes European Jews should come to Israel perhaps he should allow the families of those ethnically cleansed in 1948 and 1967 to return to their homes.
          This is what makes fortress Israel and not radical Islam

          • WTF

            Unlike Blair, Cameron and many other appeasing leaders, Netanyahu doesn’t invite those that would kill you into your own house.

          • victor67

            Contrary to the Hasbara the IP conflict is not primarily a religious dispute.
            It is a struggle of a native people against a European Colonial occupier.
            While their were Jews who have always lived in Palestine most had little interest in State building and expelling Arabs.
            Zionism and the creation of Israel is little more than a settler state.

          • WTF

            When you’re threatened with extermination whether by fascists in Europe in the 1930’s and almost eradicated as a race or today by Islamic fascists the world over, it tends to focus your mind to protect yourself don’t you think ?

          • victor67

            Good old fashioned Christian anti-semitism had nothing to do with the Palestinian Arabs.Why should they suffer for what Northern Europeans did?

          • jzsnake

            The Mufti of Jerusalem was Hitler’s right hand man. LOL STUPID!

          • victor67

            No he wasn’t
            If your looking for more active accomplices in the holocaust the Ukranians who we are currently backing would fit the bill.
            The Mufti new by 1940 the Zionists wanted the Arabs land. It was a case of my enemies enemy.
            Also Jabotinsky and Stern did a deal with Eichmann in 1941 to block Jewish immigration to UK and US and divert to Palestine. So much for their humanitarianism .They cared more for their precious state than saving Jewish lives.

          • jzsnake

            Okay time for me to get back to earth. LOL STUPID! Also it is “knew” not “new”. Brainwashed idiot.

          • Charlie in NY

            Considering that the Mufti was leading anti-Jewish incitement since the 20s and that Jabotinsky died in 1940, that would be quite a trick (on top of the fact that the “Eichmann deal” story has long since been exposed as false), it is apparent that lack of historical knowledge is no impediment for you to broadcast your views. If you wish to be taken seriously, you might read, among other good histories, David Fromkin’s “Peace to End All Peace.” Once you do, you could rejoin these types of conversations with a more informed, and less ideologically blinkered, understanding.

          • victor67

            The 20s would be about the time it was clear European Zionists were intent on a state in mandate Palestine.Remember they had the rulers of the British Empire on their side and the Arabs had every reason to feel threatened. It wasn’t just primitive Anti-Semitism
            I standby the Jabotinsky and Stern story apart fron dates.History is written by the victors but thankfully a Palestinian narrative had emerged that you might not be familiar with in corporate New York.

          • Charlie in NY

            Interesting that you admit to not letting historical facts stand in the way of a good story, that would explain both your standing by the “Jabotinsky and Stern story” as well as supporting a “Palestinian narrative” – which you at least have the good grace not to pretend is the same as “history.”
            For what it’s worth, your confusion about Eichmann might arise from the story of Joel Brand who, in 1944, became involved in an Eichmann inspired offer of bartering the lives of a million Jews for 10,000 trucks, food and other items. While some thought it was a cover for opening up peace negotiations that would exclude the Soviet Union (and, in some accounts, Hitler himself), we will never know because it was the British who scuttled the entire thing by arresting Brand. You can read (if you are really interested) more about this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Brand

            While evidently wasted on you, the point of the League of Nations Mandate for Palestine was to establish a Jewish State on a small fraction of the lands liberated from the Ottoman Turks at the end of WWI (the rest going toward establishing various Arab countries, the rights of the Armenians and Kurds to their own states having been ignored by the Allies and Associated Powers at war’s end). That Mandate, in turn, was the result of an attempt to harmonize various agreements and understandings entered into, originally by the British, with Arab and Jewish leaders.
            As it turned out, the leaders of the Jewish Agency accepted (though the Arabs rejected) a UN suggested partition plan that provided for a non-contiguous state on less than 10% of the original Mandate territory. Unlike what we see consistently from the never ending “peace process,” the Jews were that eager to have a state and compromised accordingly. From all the evidence to date, the Palestinian Arabs? Not so much, if any concessions are required of them.

          • victor67

            The League of Nations mandate was the work of the imperial powers. As I said their view of Africans, Indians and Arabs as non-people were well known. Jews , while regarded as different from Protestant Christians were infinitely superior to the dark people.
            Read Edward Said Orientalism for a different perspective.

          • Charlie in NY

            If that is the entirety of your response to the League of Nations Mandate for Palestine, it is even harder to take anything you say seriously. You don’t get to pick and choose which ratified international agreements are worthy of recognition. That is not the way the system works, but it is a good way toward anarchy.
            That you appear to confuse Prof. Said’s work of, at best, superficial and incomplete literary criticism with serious history, though you are far from alone in this conceit, merely underscores the problem.

          • Grace Ironwood

            No ! No ! Not Edward Said !

            This book, a cliched perennial of the first year campus reading list is an ignorant racist screed

            of cultural marxism.

            Thesis: no westerner CAN never understand or speak about the Other outside of his unchanging straitjacket of white racism.

            What a sad riposte to scholars like Bernard Lewis and his great Orientalist scholar predecessors.Torn to shreds by real scholars, an artifact of post-colonialist activism.The book is a thin and grubby cliche of New Left fascism.

          • Shorne

            Quite right Charlie and I understand that today Israel only occupies 18% of the area originally marked out for the Jewish Homeland.

          • bobmattfran

            Absolute tosh. A deal was struck with the Jewish Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour.
            The Rothschild Zionists promise to the British, to take America into the war, they decide they want something in writing from the British to prove that they will uphold their side of the bargain.

            The British Foreign Secretary, Arthur James Balfour therefore drafts a letter which is commonly known as the, “Balfour Declaration” and never at the time where the British Eelcorate made aware of this double dealing.

            “Foreign Office
            November 2nd, 1917

            Dear Lord Rothschild,
            I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty’s
            Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.
            His Majesty’s Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours
            to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country. I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge
            of the Zionist Federation.

            Yours sincerely,

            Arthur James Balfour

          • Shorne

            Yes he was

            This is a memory
            of Ernst Verduin, a Dutch holocaust survivor,

            “I suddenly noticed a group of people who looked like actors. They were wearing long robes and strange headgear. Occasionally, internees did perform a play in the camp. I wanted to find out myself and as I walked towards that group I was stopped by a high ranking SS-officer whom I didn’t know. He was from the main camp (Auschwitz I) or Birkenau (Auschwitz II). The officer asked me, ‘What do you want?’ ‘I just wanted to know whether these people are
            actors or not. Is there going to be a stage performance tonight?’ ‘These people aren’t actors,’ the SS-officer told me. ‘They are the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and his retinue.’ I then asked him, ‘What is he doing here?’ ‘He is paying a visit to the camp,’ the SS-officer said. ‘He lives in Berlin where he enjoys Hitler’s personal protection. He is now paying a visit to Monowitz [aka Aushwitz III] to see how
            the Jews are working themselves to death in factories. He is also in Auschwitz to see the gas chambers. When we have won the war he will return to Palestine to build gas chambers and kill the Jews who are living over there”

          • WTF

            And what about the Romans (or Greeks) and their antisemitism, if you want to drag up ancient history be my guest but if we do it wont be cherry picking snippets in time but 2000 years !

          • Mister Rible

            wtf should anybody care about Palestinians?
            you don’t care about them when they kill their own, or are killed by Egypt or Syria, so WTF do you think you make a valid point when they are retaliated against by Israelis?

            sort out your own, and then complain about others, if not, speak to the wall.

          • jzsnake

            Did you know over 50% of Israelis come from Arab/Muslim countries? Do you really care about the truth? LOL STUPID!

          • victor67

            Zionism was born in late 19th centuary Europe as an understandable response to the virulent anti-semitism that was so prevalent at that time.
            It enlisted the support of the British empire and its rulers who were the main victors after the first world war.
            The colonial mindset that regarded Africans,Indians and Arabs as insignificant allowed the ruling elite to say to the Zionists the Arabs don’t matter and you can have their land.

          • jzsnake

            Oh the land never belonged to the Jews? LOL STUPID!

          • Guest

            ever heard of something called ARCHEOLOGY?
            apparently it is responsible for having uncovered hundreds of thousands of ancient HEBREW artefacts, including entire temples

            I guess Jews originate in what today is Portugal….Lol

          • bobmattfran

            Absolute rubbish, Zionism was formed as opportunist vocal group to influence and eventually control the USA and other countries for their own self serving ends.

          • mohdanga

            “It is a struggle of a native people against a European Colonial occupier.” Yet the Ottoman Empire controlled the Middle east prior to WWI and the Arabs hated this. Why not attack Turkey?

          • Grace Ironwood

            😉

          • Grace Ironwood

            Quite understandable that you should think that. National struggles for self-determination are more appealing and have more legitimacy with us westerners than Jihad does.
            There was a conscious decision in the PLO leadership to start characterising the Arab dispute as a struggle for self-determination in the late 60’s-early 70’s, according to that infamous statement by a senior member of the PLO to Germany’s spiegel paper.

            Jihad only intruded itself into our western mindset fairly recently, but it’s been the real reason for the Muslims from the beginning.

            You’ve been sucked in, I’m afraid.
            Don’t take my word for it, you can research it for yourself.

          • Rowland Nelken

            I am more than aware of the ethnic cleansing that was part and parcel of the establishment of modern Israel. Herzl’s ‘State of Israel’ a foundation doc. of Zionism reads like a European plan to bring civilisation to the barbarous Orient.

            But European Jews are neither Israeli nor even necessarily supporters of the Zionist project. Being skeptical of, or even hostile to, Israeli politics is not, of itself, anti Semitic.

            Attacks on Europe’s synagogues and its Jews, however, cannot be anything else.

          • bobmattfran

            No they were already here destroying and stealing everything that was not screwed down, stop being an apoogist for Nazi run israel and international Zionism.

          • WTF

            Who is the ‘they’ you are referring to.

            Jews have been in that neck of the woods for over 2000 years. Islam were essentially a breakaway group from Judaism that was created by a war mongering pedophile who rejected their god so Jews in that area predate Muslims by over 600 years.

            You really should try reading history rather than listening to Hamas propaganda !

          • wudyermucuss

            7,000,000 Arabs live in Gaza,Israel and Samara and Judea.
            Hardly ethnic cleansing.
            Practically no Jews live in Arab or Muslim countries.
            Pretty effective ethnic cleansing.

          • jzsnake

            For a people with all those Nobel prizes they seem to be pretty stupid when it comes to “ethnic cleansing”.

        • jzsnake

          Oh Islam is the problem? I’ve been listening to Obama and couldn’t tell.

        • bobmattfran

          I think you are somewhat delude if you think either Liddle and Murray are thinkers let alone right, te only right part is extreme right as in nazism. But whatever floats your boat, ignorance as some say is bliss, especially for sheep stupid enough not to be able to see through propoganda rammed down their throats by international Zionsm.

          • WTF

            I was talking about this mythical word Islamophobia dreamed up by the sneering smearing left wing control freaks, I haven’t a clue what you are ranting on about as it must be in reply to anothers post !

            If you want to engage in a debate with me, try and stay on subject.

      • Grace Ironwood

        It’s great to see an advanced thinker like yourself being generous enough to take the time to set us all straight. Thanks Victor!

      • Icebow

        Anything’s better than being a narcissistic Islamophile like Obama. ISIL are doing Islam by the book, and liberal Islamophilia would cut no ice with them. Moderate Muslims are deluding themselves or deceiving moderate kuffar.

      • artemis in france

        Are you one of those people who love gays but also défend Muslims?

        • WTF

          I often wonder how the lefts mindset can support one minority group when another minority group trumps them. They must have really messed up thinking or logic to support one group that wants to kill another group they support.

          • Mister Rible

            ‘Queers for Palestine’

            LMFAO!

          • RandomGuy

            I want two “Queers for Palestine” to go to Gaza and express their love – by simply kissing. Oh wait, a lynch would be commenced.

          • GraveDave

            Muslims, Jews and Gays. Bit of a bummer that one.

          • RandomGuy

            Yep, Queers for Palestine is like Jews for Nazi Germany, Blacks for KKK, and Albinos for Tanzania… Yet only Queers for Palestine actually exsists.

        • jzsnake

          Same with Feminists. There is some kind of pathology there.

      • Robbydot1

        He’s bloody right!

      • wince

        You can understand Murray’s reasoning. Being gay, most ‘ordinary’ Muslims (whatever they are), if they are good devout Muslims, would very likely wish to see him dealt with under strict Koranic edict.

      • Mara

        What an intelligent statement. I am impressed. I am sure Rod Liddle will be too.

      • Mara

        What an intelligent statement. I am sure Rod Liddle would agree.

    • bobmattfran

      Hardly brave, paid disingenuous and dangerous. I was always of the opinion that journalists wrote the truth not a twisted and redacted version.

  • SOMARA556

    I don’t blame Netanyahu or the Israeli government for their concern over Europe’s Jewish minorities. However I hope that European Jews will not be forced into leaving their countries for Israel, the far-right, Islamic extremists and the Israel-hating left are all factors that are making Europe a cold house for Jews.

  • English_Independence_Movement

    But it won’t harm his reelection chances to stoke up some fear.

  • It’s not that ‘everyone has started hating’ Israel, it’s that the media and political class are wildly unrepresentative. I really don’t know how to combat that. In the US, Fox News is a powerful voice that the left are desperate to pillory. They are speaking up for Israel and a number of other now passé causes. In the UK we have no broadcast media to break up the mainstream narrative. If Peter Oborne’s conscience did but know it, it was the desperate fear of a UK Fox News (with the BSkyB takeover) that led the Guardian and various Labour MPs to keep plugging away at phone hacking. Granted there was something to it, but it wasn’t a Murdoch only issue, and the consequence is that, for the time being, the broadcast media in this country is still largely ‘left/liberal’, with all it’s consequent false premises, venalities and biases

    • Freddythreepwood

      Yesterday the media was full of Chelsea supporters (so called) disgracing themselves on the Paris metro, refusing to let a black person board the train and chanting racist slogans. Good for the media in this case – I am an RAF veteran and they make me cringe with shame. But I saw nothing of the Jewish gentleman being abused by Muslims in Paris. The pattern is set and it worries me a great deal. For the first time in my life I would vote for the abolition of the BBC licence.

      • The Chelsea hooligans fit the narrative they want to sell, Muslims abusing Jews don’t.
        By the way, thank you for your service

        • Bonkim

          Don’t jump to conclusions – Muslims or any others abusing Jews also hit the headlines – but the Paris Metro incident was blatant and these thugs should be brought to book.

          • GraveDave

            Yes of course Bonkim.

            Racist black woman on London bus – YouTube

            ▶ 2:36

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcZ1D2LCsao

            17 Aug 2012 – Uploaded by I’m Gonna Make You FamousYou white people wanna be black by lying in your sun beds………Am I Lying?????? Too bad we still have to

            This happened the same week as the Emma West incident. Now guess which one got charged and went to prison and which one got a little ticking off.

          • Bonkim

            Complain to your MP.

          • wudyermucuss

            No.
            It was massively hyped.
            It was typical group tribal behaviour.
            It was exploited because it fitted a narrative the media propagate regularly.
            Just view the figures for racial crimes/victims in the U.S. and England,and they are massively disproportionate for black offenders and white victims.
            Remove black and Hispanics from U.S. gun crime figures and there is virtually no gun crime in the U.S.

          • Bonkim

            Yes poorer and less privileged groups are frustrated more and give vent to their feelings, also more petty crimes including drug related which naturally create such situations. If you go back to the 1920s and 30s, poorer neighbourhoods also had similar problems (look back at the films from that era) but now general increase in education, affluence and equality of opportunity which have calmed social tensions. Then again huge difference between the US and Britain regardless of racial origins.

          • mohdanga

            Hundreds of billions poured into black communities in the US since the middle 1960s, affirmative action, multitudes of programs dedicated to helping the ‘black community’….and still the problem exists. Poverty and less privilege exist everywhere in every race, it’s up to the individual to WANT to make themselves better, not blame the fact that their great great grandfather was a slave and associating themselves with a continent they will never see, much less actually move to if given the opportunity. Quit being a victim and get on with things.

          • Bonkim

            Not talking about black and white – simply how disadvantaged human groups react – agree the disadvantaged should rise up and gun down opposition – that is how the West was won. Survival of the fittest. That is also the lesson from Israel, ISIS and the Middle East.

          • mohdanga

            My parents grew up with nothing in the Depression, they never became criminals, never joined gangs, never destroyed anything, never gunned anyone down and never looked at themselves as victims. They experienced discrimination and hard times yet through hard work, sacrifice and adherence to law and societal mores they became successful and bettered their lives. Because you are disadvantaged (who isn’t??) doesn’t give you the right to ‘gun down opposition’ to get your way.

          • Bonkim

            Good job they did not follow Bonnie & Clyde. But it was the carpet-baggers, and Robber Barons and other rough lot that built the US not faint-hearted. Good job too you did not grow up in Chicago or the Bronx in the early part of the last century, or worked in the labour camps of the constructions sites where $5 an hour labour slogged it blasting rock to build the Hoover Dam – Luck you.

            Come again – the US was built on slavery, genocide and clobbering the weak, and exploiting immigrant labour from China, and Europe since the Mid-1800s.

            Survival of the fittest Mohadanga – that is the American dream and those that did not fit in were exterminated.

          • mohdanga

            Ridiculous response. People that ‘did not fit in’ in the US were not exterminated. Are there no Native Americans left? Were Europeans who didn’t work in a sweatshop or couldn’t handle it sent to death camps?
            Yes, we know, the US ‘was built on slavery’, blah, blah, blah. That’s why absolutely no whites opened up the West, created farms from the wild, founded and worked in the factories, built the railways and struggled and sweated in a thousand different occupations. And obviously the immigrants that came thought they were coming to a better life. Mine did. They came from eastern Europe prior to WWI…..never heard my mom say that her relatives were rounded up and sent to death camps. In fact, their lives improved immeasurably by coming to the US. They weren’t robber barons and carpet baggers, just honest, hard working people who sweated, saved, and became successful.
            Why would the US let in so many immigrants if it needed to ‘exterminate’ them? Would have been just as easy to let them stay in their own countries and die there.

          • Bonkim

            I am not quite sure what we are arguing about. Check out US history. No one said European settlers were killed off – in fact the US is a nation created by immigrants mainly European/Anglo-Saxon dominated, and the Catholics/Jews/Blacks and Chinese/ Latinos were less privileged. You better brush up on US history and the social order that prevailed well into the late 20th century. Even at WW2 Black GIs were segregated and the Pope in Rome asked the US authorities not to post Black guards in the Vatican. In fact if you look up US surnames many European particularly from the Eastern Europe were anglicised to hide origins and fit in with the Anglo culture.

            – I have great admiration for many that shaped the US, and the enterprise, adaptation and change that was the makings of the Anglo-culture that built an Empire across the Seas. Equally abhorrence for some that exploited the immigrants, traded in slaves and got rid of any that stood on the way of them gaining land or business connections in the free for all period in the 1800s, also the extreme cruelty exercised in eliminating the American Indians and slaves that challenged the local order. Public services and justice were corrupt as they are today to some extent and a smart lawyer is needed at every step.

            I have no problem with all that as human beings are competitive animals and as said earlier the fit survive. Morality and justice are relative and even today, US politics are hamstrung by historical injustices.

      • GraveDave

        Why do you cringe with shame – were you there? No – ? So why?
        I mean do other races ever apologize or feel shame for all the white people they’re hated on- or even killed – over the years?

        • Freddythreepwood

          I cringed with shame because I am English and proud of it and it shames me that French people on the train or platform might associated me with these neanderthals. I cringed with shame that I live in a country that could produce people like this and that these pictures were probably being shown around the world. I cringed with shame for the person they were abusing. And I cringe with same that there are people around who would ask me why I cringed with shame.

          • Bonkim

            Good for you – that is British values shining through. It is a pity the bystanders did not do anything to stop the mob. Surely there were French Metro staff or guards. That is the real shame.

          • GraveDave

            The other story goes that there was no room and the black guy, determined to get on at whatever cost , started shoving first. Not that that excuses the stupid chants .
            But that’s football.

            White racist stories though – always makes good clickbait.

          • Bonkim

            The coach was not full and there not many getting in or out. the platform was practically empty – don’t make excuses for idiots. Subnormal white or black are like that.

          • Damaris Tighe

            You’re right to cringe, but the ‘with shame’ tells me that you may be one of those people who are ashamed of the whole British ‘white’ working class.

            Which is why they pay more attention to their transgressions than to the equally casual (& up to now more toxic & widespread – think Rotherham) racism of ethnic minorities.

            And which is also they you support every move to suppress indigenous protest whilst turning a blind eye to the third word prejudices of people with brown skins – to the point of using them to replace the indigenous of whom you’re so ashamed.

          • Freddythreepwood

            All of which only goes to prove that you are neither as observant nor as good a judge as you think you are.
            And by the way, I served for 36 years in the Royal Air Force and I am a retired senior officer. Please don’t lecture me on my Britishness, or lack of it.
            I am ashamed of the bigoted thugs who behaved so disgracefully on the Paris metro. That is what I said, and not the entirely dreamed up nonsense you wish to put in my mouth.

          • Damaris Tighe

            I changed ‘you’ to ‘they’ as I could see it may be unfair. I hope you saw that. Thank you for your service in the RAF. My general point remains.

          • Freddythreepwood

            Fine. As long as we are clear that in no way was I equating the scum on the train with the ‘British ‘white’ working class’.

          • Damaris Tighe

            I should have looked at your other posts – apologies.

          • Freddythreepwood

            Accepted. Thank you.

          • Damaris Tighe

            I broke my own rule – never post in the morning before at least six cups of coffee.

          • Freddythreepwood– I really like what you’ve got to say especially about Muslims bashing Jews not fitting the narrative the way Chelsea fans do. I despair of ‘ what makes a good story ‘ these days which is why Rod’s freedom to speak in a range of publications is so precious

          • Kennybhoy

            Are you familiar with the BBc’s reporting of the PSG v Hapoel incident back in November of ’06? ;-(

            Ceterum autem censeo BBC esse delendam!

          • No but Ceterum autem censeo has been springing to my mind lately in relation to Islamic fundamentalism

          • Kennybhoy

            Still well out of order! 🙁

          • GraveDave

            No – I doubt it. That sort probably despises all the young generations just for being young and spoilt.
            .’We fought a war for the likes of you’
            The real air heroes perished in the last war.

          • Kennybhoy

            Which service are/were you in?

          • Kennybhoy

            Och Mistress T get a fracking grip! ;-( *

            *Edited.

          • Damaris Tighe

            I’ve already grovelled. But the general point is true, no?

          • GraveDave

            It’s more about looking good I think. Besides even that story has two sides. Every story in fact has two sides -especially white racist stories .Look at what they did to Emma West.
            But that was on a Croydon bus.

          • wudyermucuss

            Compared to the mass black on black killing,Rotherham,the murderous fifth column,the radical leftist/greens,I find a verbal bullying/shoving insignificant.
            Because it is.
            The real Faux News.

            You no doubt remember the footage of the lone white Jewish schoolgirl being attacked by several black girls on the London bus.
            That’s right,you don’t,because the media CHOSE not to show or even report it.
            The news you see is selected.
            For real news,watch liveleak/youtube.

      • Benjamin

        Yes, the media doesn’t tell us enough about Jews. Jews should control more of the Gentile media to rectify this problem.

    • WTF

      WE desperately need a FOX news channel in the UK to really combat all the left wing fascists we have in main stream media. NBC, ABC and the left in the USA do not get a free ride as FOX is very prominent and although outnumbered, its powerful enough to pour ridicule, scorn and call to account all the liars and appeasers on the left. They are a pleasure to watch as the feeble minded dip sticks try to deny or appease the last Islamic terrorist act and FOX chews them up and spits them out.

      • I agree. Fox isn’t perfect, O’Reilly’s ego is out of control, and Hannity is far too shrill and bitter for my liking, but in the main they are an excellent counter to the MSM. They embarrass them and report on stories that the Dems and the MSM would rather see buried. I’d love to see the likes of James Delingpole, Rod Liddle, Ed West and Peter Hitchens get regular on air gigs on a reformed Sky News.

      • Icebow

        Yes, and it’s such a shame that the excellent Canadian Sun News is no more.

        • Ivan Ewan

          Aw man, when’d that happen?

          • mohdanga

            Went off the air suddenly last week. When it first started broadcasting a few years ago it was given a channel on the basic cable set of channels that every person gets when they sign up for cable. But then the lefties in the CRTC and media started to get worried that this uppity, right wing channel was reporting stories that the MSM dare not cover and was becoming popular….so it was moved to the premium cable package ie. you have to pay extra to receive it. This made aforementioned lefty media and their shills very happy (“we will not have Fox News North in Canada!”) but made the economics of the station untenable. It was the channel I watched the most because it reported stories on Muslim violence and terrorism and intolerance in Canada that the left wing MSM will not cover for fear of being called ‘Islamophobic’.
            The basic coverage includes stalwarts such as a couple of French language stations (that no English Canadian watches but has to pay for), the Shopping Network, another non-English speaking channel and the usual dirge from the left wing CBC, CTV and Global. In short, everything that the politically correct, left wing politicians, media and academia support.

          • Ivan Ewan

            Wonkers.

          • Icebow

            Very recently, I think. Perhaps see the Blazing Cat Fur site.

      • Ivan Ewan

        I’d rather have something that would count as being a news channel though, by English standards. FOX, like CNN and MSNBC and whatnot, blend opinion and fact in a way that is just terrible.

        I’m not saying that it should try to be credible with the fascist Left – just be credible in objective terms.

        • WTF

          In truth I’d rather have a balanced report but we wont get that from MSM and consequently we need an alternative channel that fights them in the same manner. Sure, FOX will spin but it doesn’t lie or deny as ABC, NBC, BBC or SKY does and it will debate with opposing views which the others refuse to do. Whether its in the media or here, those Islamic appeasers and deniers will never debate for the most part and just name call.

    • wudyermucuss

      It’s a huge problem.
      But polls showed that even the most trusted media source (the BBC!),was only trusted by less than half the population.

  • Freddythreepwood

    What’s that noise? Oh! It’s the sound of nails being hit on the head! Thank you Mr Liddle.

  • מיטל

    Netanyahu to blame for the high prices. Meital Israel

  • Damian Hurts

    It is extremely convenient to conflate the position of Israel in the world with that of the Jewish population is Europe.

    Who is perpetuating that myth and why?

    • EUROJESUS

      One person who is most ‘likely’ to show great interest in conflating the two is Netanyahoo himself, obviously.

    • WTF

      Both are under threat, thats why.

  • That piers Morgan quote is shocking..how’d he get away with that?

  • Mow_the_Grass

    NEVER AGAIN
    Never again shall Masada fall
    Never again shall we have our backs against the wall.
    That is why – Am Yisrael Chai.

  • Once they’ve killed all the people with IQs higher than theirs — which includes virtually all the Jews to say nothing of red lemurs and a pet frog named Cathy — who are they going to find to hate then?

  • I often think of this line from Bob Dylan – I think of a hero as someone who understands the degree of responsibility that comes with his freedom.
    Rod, you’re willing to be bold and take risks, and its of immense importance that there are journalists like you left amongst the faceless mass of baying sheep. And youre so funny with it. And always have an imaginative take to lure in your reader. Bloody great article mate, I’m hugely impressed.
    SHARON FEINSTEIN

    • Richard Baranov

      Sharon. May I ask you a question given the Bob Dylan quote and because this is something that is truly troubling me. Do you think people should make aliyah or stand their ground in England?

      • Hi Richard, Thanks for your reply. I think its an entirely individual decision. I am about to interview a woman whose family has been here since the inquisition and she is leaving as she feels unsafe and is confident that at least israel does what it can to protect its citizens. Many other british jews think its a nonsensical idea. Suffice to say the aituation is alarming as it is on a wider scale in relation to Isis and its affiliates and here we are leading parallel lives without that much concern.

        • jzsnake

          If you think about the future of your grandchildren, you would be out of there. I know that’s not a simple move.

          • Out of where? here ? Thats rather glib. No grandchildren and not expecting any.

          • jzsnake

            Just thinking about yourself. That’s rather narrow-minded.

        • Richard Baranov

          Thank you for your reply. I suspect the danger is much exaggerated, rather like the danger of children being kidnapped is hyped through the roof, unless you live in London or some large city with an Islamic population, un PC though it may be to say it. I suspect, as a Jew, you are just as likely to be hit by lightning as attacked by a member of the ‘Religion of Perpetual Peevishness’, it would be interesting to see some sort of statistical report on the subject in that sort of context, panic is infectious and that is never a good thing. But I do think it would be terrible if everyone left for Israel. It may be safe for a while but I wonder if people have thought of the long term? If these truly awful people gain power in Europe, then how long before disaster struck Israel? I can easily see a nightmarish scenario taking place. Better to stand one’s ground, I think, and fight back as hard as possible now for the sake of our descendants, if not ourselves.

          • mohdanga

            Things aren’t rosy for Jews in Malmo so they are leaving. Never a problem before the Religion of Peace moved in.

          • Richard Baranov

            Melmo is in Europe, I live in Britain and do not consider this or the British to be Europeans. And I think you will find the majority of people on this site think much the same way. We are an island parked off Europe and that continent has always been a pain in our backside. I think the empire came about largely to avoid the continent 🙂 We could sail around it rather than go through it. Good place for vacations though!

          • mohdanga

            Agreed….but it is only a matter of time before the same thing happens in Britain. There is no political will in the West to voice concerns about this, let alone do something about it. Suicidal.

          • Richard Baranov

            Yes, but what I am concerned with is the Jews in England and I tend to think like Christopher Hitchens on this issue, because I do tend to think of Jews leaving for Israel as a form of ghettoization. But I also think that the Jews of Britain are entirely to passive about what is happening. So, if you will excuse me, I will quote him at length and use it as my answer to Charlie in N.Y. too. A place I know very well because my wife is from Forest Hills which used to be very Jewish, it’s changed now, I believe. But we have not been there for years. So, Christopher Hitchens, a hero of mine:
            “I regard anti-Semitism as ineradicable and as one element of the toxin with which religion has infected us. Perhaps partly for this reason, I have never been able to see Zionism as a cure for it. American and British and French Jews have told me with perfect sincerity that they are always prepared for the day when ‘it happens again’ and the Jew-baiters take over. (And I don’t pretend not to know what they are talking about: I have actually seen the rabid phenomenon at work in modern and sunny Argentina and am unable to forget it.) So then, they seem to think, they will take refuge in the Law of Return, and in Haifa, or for all I know in Hebron. Never mind for now that if all of world Jewry did settle in Palestine, this would actually necessitate further Israeli expansion, expulsion, and colonization, and that their departure under these apocalyptic conditions would leave the new brownshirts and blackshirts in possession of the French and British and American nuclear arsenals. This is ghetto thinking, hardly even fractionally updated to take into account what has changed. The important but delayed realization will have to come: Israeli Jews are a part of the diaspora, not a group that has escaped from it.”

          • mohdanga

            My wife is Jewish (father Jewish, mother converted to Judaism prior to their marriage but they have been divorced for many years) and she says to me (we live in Canada) “I’m wondering if some day I will need to change my name so I won’t be threatened by Muslims.” Not an easy thing to hear in the great Dominion but our demographics are leaning towards that of Europe and Britain with continuing and increasing Muslim immigrants, many of which are bent upon keeping up the traditions and customs of their Muslim utopias. I have no time for them (and not because I am married to a Jew). I have seen what they bring of value (very little), what they take and demand (very much) and it makes me sad that my country is slowly being turned into the third world. There will be violence eventually.

          • Richard Baranov

            My wife’s original name is ‘Finkelstein’, but I think the opposite from your wife. I often think I should change my surname to my wife’s, just to be more ‘in your face’ about it.
            A fellow Canadian, Mark Steyn. Have you watched him on You Tube? If not I thoroughly recommend him. Not only informative but highly entertaining too.

            Mark Steyn on Multiculturalism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdEGJb5W5ks

          • mohdanga

            I have been reading Mark Steyn for 15 years!! He’s my ‘go to’ guy for all things politically incorrect.
            You may have a point….one must be confident in his culture rather than cowering in a corner….

          • Richard Baranov

            Mark Steyn, very well worth reading or listening to on You Tube. Great sense of humour too.

          • bobmattfran

            You obviously don’t understand anti -semitism except where it has been highjacked and used as a one sided piece of propoganda. No all semites are Jews, and not all Jews are semites. But a level playing where anti-Semitism was abhorred and included all semites would totally destroy the Zionist hyped argument.

          • Richard Baranov

            Anti-Semitism is discrimination against Jews and that is the only reply you are going to get from me on the matter. The attempt to water the term down in order to include ‘arabs’ is, in itself, anti-Semitic.

          • Charlie in NY

            Richard: I think the difference is that the Western governments have by and large turned a rather blind eye to what has been befalling their Jewish citizens for more than a decade. Countless attacks have been “contextualized” as arising out of Israeli policies or some “provocation” by the individual in question.
            While many have made the point that we are not back in the ’30s because antisemitism is not government sanctioned, the problem is that the governments are doing little to address the actual problem. In many instances, officials cannot even bring themselves to call things for what they are (a problem famously not limited to Europe).
            In Israel, every Jew knows that the government will take measures to protect them and their fate will no longer depend on the kindness of a generally unsympathetic or apathetic majority.
            Europe should consider Prime Minister Netanyahu’s call for what it is: a wake-up call to Europe to face the reality of the situation in which it now finds itself. He has no magical powers to make any individual Jew emigrate if he wishes, as you say, to stay and fight – everyone knows this. That columns such as this stand out as being so rare strongly suggests that Europe remains asleep and that any Jews who “fight back as hard as possible” will be doing so with precious few non-Jewish supporters at their side.
            European actions will speak louder than Netanyahu’s words. Their inaction will simply vindicate his words.

          • bobmattfran

            Possibly because most decent Jews can’t stand the 21st Century Ashkenaziand his vile cohorts who bring shame down on the Jewish race.

        • bobmattfran

          GThde Inquisition? Oh plase the women you are interviewing must be overf 300 myears old!

    • Sean Lamb

      That name rings a bell.
      One of the reason Israeli real estate is so pricey might be they are so good at extracting rents from other countries.
      Since Israel’s security seems to revolve around the construction of little Bantustans around its periphery, one positive move towards peace would be to oblige Israel to reimburse the UNHCR the costs of their upkeep. Even South Africa in the deepest grip of apartheid never demanded the international community pick up the tab for the provision of services to their townships.

      This would both give Israel an incentive to reach a peace settlement and help cap the rising costs of Israeli real estate

      • WTF

        Hamas don’t want a settlement, thats the problem !

      • how does that name ‘ ring a bell ? ‘ Rather ominous throwaway line before your response to Rod’s article . So that’s what the article led you to and that’s the limit of what it made you engage with ?

        • Sean Lamb

          The thought of young Israelis crushed under the burden of mortgages in their current real estate bubble lead me to wrack my brains for a solution.
          Solving the Palestinian question was just an added bonus

        • Richard Baranov

          I’m afraid, Sharon, you will find these sort on here occasionally. I made a remark on the Jerusalem Post and crashed into one of them there, of all places. But please persist and don’t quit. That is what they want. Easiest thing to do is not respond. A mistake I always make, I tend to be naïve and like to think that people are essentially good and that you can reason with them. I’m wrong, of course but, hey, better than thinking ill all the time.

          • Hello Richard, Yes how draining to receive acerbic style comments such as another one I received today making negative pronouncements. Not worth the effort of a reply, a kind of weariness just descends I find. My mother lives in Johannesburg and has just been telling me about Al Quaeda style cells in training there, and pop up Muslim enclaves like the banlieue in Paris and our Luton or Bradford. It’s spreading like a virus and very alarming. Are we sleeping walking in parallel lives here.

          • Richard Baranov

            We live in interesting times, as the Chinese like to say. But I think people are far to passive. I do think that the Jewish community should be far more vocal and put as much pressure as possible on politicians and I don’t think that they would be alone in doing that, many people would give support, of that I do not doubt. Perhaps people should also think of re-forming the Haganah as it was in its original form, local defence groups.
            My line of thinking is that perception counts. I am referring back to my remarks about children being kidnapped versus the reality because I do think that Islam truly thinks it can do whatever it pleases with impunity in this country and their behaviour demonstrates time and time again that they do believe that.
            A true story. My family lived in Libya during the Suez Crisis, in Al Khums. At one point an outraged mob stormed up to the gate of the military barracks. My father who was well known in the village, went out in high dudgeon yelled the Arabic equivalent of: ‘Right you lot, who’s first?’ And that was the end of it. The perception of strength is important. There is, a huge amount of bluster under that placard waving ‘behead all those’ etc. but when challenged by a no nonsense approach these people are cowards. But they understand instinctively what I’m saying above, perception counts’.

      • wudyermucuss

        the construction of little Bantustans around its periphery –
        False.
        Egypt,Lebanon,Jordan,Syria?
        You must be referring to Jews living in the WB?
        You think it should be Jew free like the rest of the Arab and Muslim worlds?

      • justsomeone

        You sound like a nasty piece of work.
        However, it would be a good idea for the United Nations to stop helping the Palestinians. Then you wouldn’t need to ask to be ‘reimbursed’. There are plenty of people around the world who need help far more urgently than the Palestinians and the only reason they don’t get more money from the United Nations is because they don’t launch rockets at Israel. In effect, the United Nations is subsidising the Palestinians’ war, telling them “you don’t have to build a viable economy, you can focus on destroying a country and its people and we’ll help you”.

    • Jackthesmilingblack

      Now would that be an Irish name?

      • your point?

        • Nowt. He is the resident Troll lurking on the Speccie.

      • Mister Rible

        tell her to put a yellow star on her coat, so you don’t get confused

    • bobmattfran

      Why didn’t you complete your nonsense by including the text another proud, Nazi loving Zionist. at least it would have been the truth?

  • GraveDave

    Oh, you sap, you halfwit. How can you not see that what is happening now is of a different order entirely?

    Careful Rod, that’s Pious M*ron you’re insulting. Remember , he asked Jeremy Clarkson out for a fight for saying far less. .

  • Suzy61

    Thank you Rod.

    There is nothing more to add.

  • ExToryVoter

    Spot on Rod. One of very few journalists capable of telling the truth to power.

  • Edgar Davidson

    One of the few writers who ‘gets it’.

  • Pacificweather

    I like the conceit that Israel is a safer place than Europe for Jews. One minute Netanyahu says how dangerous it is with all those rockets and suicide bombers that it is essential that Isreal bombs Gaza into dust. The next moment He says Israel is a safe place for European Jews to escape the dangers of Europe. Which is true and which is false or are they both extensions of his fevered imagination.

    • No: the world is a nightmare that should have got beyond Nazi Germany but hasn’t. Your withering eye should be directed at their persecutors, not what you falsely call a ‘fevered imagination’. Have you no sense of horror and compassion, you moral pygmy?

      • WTF

        Get rid of one monster and an even bigger one surfaces from Islam !

      • Pacificweather

        Shalom. You are a sweet child with such a firm adult grasp of the morality of this English Jew. L’chaim. Not all Jews are Zionists, not all Zionists are Jews.

        • Mister Rible

          what’s wrong with being zionist?
          muslims can have over 55 countries and counting, and Jews can not have even 1?

          Pi$$ off seriously!

          • Pacificweather

            It’s always good to meet someone with a sound grasp of the facts and such a persuasive writing style.

          • Mister Rible

            it’s always good to meet someone with such poor arguments, that they end up exposing their ignorance,e by focusing on anything, but the actual facts – its helps my side’s points.
            cheers.
            now pi$$ off.

    • WTF

      Israel is in effect in a state or constant war in a similar manner to the cold war in the 1960’s. There was that ever present threat from the USSR and Israel has exactly the same but in spades from Hamas and others. That said, at least Jews who feel afraid in the UK because Cameron refuses to deal with the antisemitism from Islam, will feel more comfortable amongst their own despite the threat from outside.

    • Penny

      Both are true but you miss the nuance. If you were Jewish and an Islamist extremist went abroad with a Kalashnikov killing some of your number, would you feel safer in a country in which the government “gets” it and is dedicated to your survival; or would you feel safer in a country where the PM launches into his “Islam is a religion of peace” speech, followed by bien-pensants fretting over a backlash against Muslims which never actually happens?

      • Pacificweather

        Statistically the latter; emotionally the former; physiologically Svarlbard.

        • Penny

          As far as being statistically the latter is concerned: there are many, here and abouts, who are not Jewish but do not look forward with much optimism.

          If Netanyahu’s invitation has nudged some into action (the operative word being “if”), then perhaps that will also be of benefit beyond European Jewish communities.

          • Pacificweather

            In 1939 many people did not look towards the future with optimism. A great deal of high explosive was aimed at them, often successfully, but in six years it was all over and they were optimistic again. For thirty years people were not optimistic about the amount of high explosive detonated in many of our large cities but the amount of high explosive was way less. This would seem to indicate that the duration of lack of optimism is inversely proportion to the amount of high explosive being directed at you and proportional to the amount of fortitude displayed.

          • Penny

            A relative of mine – British – was studying in Germany in 1936. What he saw three years before the start of WWII did not fill him with optimism. Others in positions of power were seemingly not as astute.

            What happened in Europe in the 1940’s – particularly to specific, small communities – was a lesson. It can’t be reduced to a flick of the wrist and an assertion that “well, we’ll be optimisitic until the next time”

            With the benefit of hindsight people are puzzled by the Jews of Europe in 1939. They ask why they didn’t see the writing on the wall; why they didn’t get out or fight back; why they appeared to accept their fate. Now some seem quite….”insulted”…by the fact that some Jews are doing just that.

          • Pacificweather

            The only people who are puzzled are those who haven’t read history or even Wikipedia.

  • Sean L

    Rwanda’s actually doing very well now economically. Nairobi’s a proper sh1thole in many respects but its property prices were rising at a faster rate than anywhere on earth until quite recently. The Israeli owned and built Westgate Shopping Centre, which was in the news recently after a gang of Somali jihadis started shooting its shoppers, was back in business within a year. You may scoff but in many ways you can have a far higher standard of living in Africa than here because you can employ your own staff, maids, houseboys, watchmen, for a pittance, even if you pay them reasonably. But don’t expect property values to be that cheap any more.

    • mohdanga

      Wouldn’t that be white colonization which we all know is wrong? Unlike the reverse colonization in the West which is treated as laudable by the multiculti mob.

      • Sean L

        Well mate I take your point but there aren’t really enough wazungu in those parts to qualify as a colony anymore.

  • CraigStrachan

    I tend to think Rod Liddle sometimes has a point, which he often obscures by going entertainingly over-the-top in the making of it.

    In this case, however, he is so dead right it’s not even funny.

  • Thaddeus lovelock

    All this talk of Islamophobia has invited European Muslims to think of themselves as victims, even, and when they are the principle ones doing the victimizing. As we have seen, with the upsurge in anti- Semitic violence across Europe.

    • WTF

      True, when immature kids are caught out doing something wrong, their immediate reaction is to try and deflect blame by saying “but little Johnny stole, beat up etc, etc” in a lame attempt to remove their own despicable actions from the equation. This is embedded in the European Muslim culture that believes it is the persecuted minority when nothing could be further from the truth. All alienation from main stream Britain, France, Germany or where ever is self created by refusing to integrate, demand special rights and in extremis, go out and kill when they feel offended.

      • Thaddeus lovelock

        Very true. You hit the nail on the head, the Islamic mindset, seems to me to very often to lack maturity.

  • Peter Stroud

    Excellent article. I also am not Jewish, but admire the Jewish race, partly because of the number of talented folk it produces. Intellectuals, artists, scientists and philosophers – far more than other nations of greater populations. Also, I admire the way the family is still central to Jewish life. Why are they hated by so many? Is it jealousy? Surely it cannot be because it was the Jews that executed Christ. And why have the Moslems always detested Christians and Jews? Why does the Qur’an seem to single these peoples out for persecution?

    • Grace Ironwood

      Read the Koran and find out. The Bukhari collection of hadith is very repetitive but will also give you the idea.

      The Jews were the originals. They laughed in Mohammed’s face when he told them that he was the messiah they’d been waiting for.

      They will never be forgiven.

    • GraveDave

      Only white people seem to believe there’s something noble about hating their own in order to absolve themselves of ‘racism’. Everytime I hear someone ‘cringing in shame’ or apologizing on behalf of some idiot just because that idiot has the same skin tones, it makes me cringe.
      Who else behaves like this – other than Europeans.
      We should be more ashamed about how we treat our children and the old.

    • Why? Competitive advantage. Jews and Christians got a head start on Mo all those centuries ago and to catch-up he ordered his followers to kill and subjugate the competition. They took his command literally and have been at it ever since. After hundreds of years and thousands of errors, most of the rest of us chose to move on from the Dark Ages.

  • zanzamander

    Excellent article! A ray of bright light in an otherwise treacherous landscape of lefty media.

    Just a one point to note: Murderous attitude toward Jews is not a modern phenomenon in Islam. The hate stretches back to the founding days of Islam. It is not new, has nothing to do with Israel or anything else. This hate would still be there even if Israel never existed. It is writ large in the hadiths, it is on the lips of Mohammad’s followers. It is for our own sanity that we chose to believe otherwise, reasoning that surely no religion could be based on hatred towards other humans.

  • McQueue

    Refreshingly direct, Mr Liddle; Thank you.

  • Blindsideflanker

    The offer by Netanyahu isn’t an offer of more safety , though he has couched in such terms, for with the threats Israel is under it cannot be said to be any safer than cities in Europe, what is offered is a State who will defend you when attacked. The same can’t be said for here, where our political classes are frit to defend the interests of their citizens, for they probably think it racist to do so.

    In this I envy the Jews, for at least there is somewhere in the world that will act as a sanctuary for them, the rest of us are being dispossessed of our country, and at some point when a critical mass of the religion of peace has been achieved, there will be a civil war to fight.

    • Grace Ironwood

      I suspect it’s now safer to have your jewish wedding in Israel with your armed guards than it is in Europe. Because we’re idiots.

  • artemis in france

    For all you Mossad fans out there, if you haven’t seen it, watch Spielberg’s Munich, a superb film which should have won the Best Picture oscar. It pulls no punches and yet remains extremely humane.

    And as for our hero, Rod, what can you say about this man? A gent and a scholar and a mensch to boot. And so, so right.

    • Jackthesmilingblack

      Good movie, sure. But essentially it depicts Mossad murdering it’s way across Europe, occasionally murdering an innocent person due to misidentifying the victim. But, even Mossad wasn’t going to mess with Mother Russia.

      • GraveDave

        What about the bird who gets shot in the Bristol city.

        • Jackthesmilingblack

          The one that lived on a canal boat? Was that Bristol? I was referring to the innocent waiter that was killed in Sweden. But, hey, you can’t make a Jewish omelette without breaking a few eggs.

    • CortexUK

      Tell that to Ahmed Bouchiki.

    • GraveDave

      Eric Bana rules in that film.

  • Ross

    When ‘queer bashing’ was very much in vogue in this country it was not advocated that the gay community decamp en masse to San Francisco. Why then should European citizens make an exodus to a foreign country because of the lawlessness of a small minority of people?

    • GraveDave

      ‘Queer bashing’. Where did people go to find them to bash in the first place?

      • Doctor Crackles

        Brighton beach.

        • GraveDave

          Reputedly , we had a few cottagers on Shepherds Bush Green, back in the 70s when it had an underground bog. .

  • Robertus Maximus

    I don’t think the Western leaders care much more for Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, or indeed Christians. All are expendable in order to accommodate Islam. If I were members of those other religions I would feel pretty p*ssed-off at the lack of recognition for leading law-abiding lives.

    • GraveDave

      If you look at the news it’s mostly native white people suffers racial and physical attacks by ‘the other’, which I suppose is only to be expected in a majority white country; especially in a country like ours that does so much to fete and guard the incomers from any kind of offence, racial or otherwise, from only white people. A serving) soldier was recently attacked in Manchester. Conveniently, the reports omit any kind of description of the attackers Though they could turn out to be white thugs, it’s hard to know these days with such an anti white media bias. The point is until ALL race issues and hate attacks are addressed with the same gusto as that for non whites (as in the ‘Chelsea racist thugs’ report) we will never move on and in fact things will just get worse Otherwise it’s nothing less than another system of apartheid.

      • Robertus Maximus

        You are absolutely right about the Paris Metro business. One Black being pushed merits more coverage than who knows how many whites (including Jews) assaulted throughout the country. Make no mistake, if the colour of an assailant isn’t mentioned in a news report you know they are not white. If they are white they are on to it like a dog with a bone.

        • GraveDave

          Well, I do wonderif there are any Africans out there today ‘cringing with shame and embarrassment ‘ over the racism of their brothers and sisters toward a white family in what is THEIR own country.This of course stood no chance of national coverage let alone going viral.

          Racist vandals target Willenhall mum’s new flat saying the area is for “black sisters and brothers”

          Coventry Telegraph‎ –

          Racist vandals target Willenhall mum’s new flat saying the area is for … in Mary Slessor Street, Willenhall, was for “black sisters and brothers”.

          I say it now and I will keep saying it the biggest racists are these so called white ‘ anti racists’. Because obviously , underneath all that carey-sharey tolerance is some innate belief that black people should constantly be treated as a special needs species.

          • Robertus Maximus

            My greatest contempt is reserved for the Blair Government and its covert immigration policy which put the final nail into Britain’s coffin. Other warped examples are the Church of England leadership who, like their political counterparts, will push the interests of anyone except their own flock e.g. Rowan Williams and sharia law.

            Just out of interest, a little story.Two years ago I had my burglar alarm serviced by a chap who used to live in the Midlands. He told me of the time he was called to the house of a chap of West Indian origin who was having a monumental level of alarms and CCTV installed in his house. When asked why he was undertaking this expensive procedure he said he was the only Black resident in a street full of Muslims. One day a group of them knocked on his door and ‘suggested’ he sell-up and move out. He declined the offer and then the bricks started coming through his windows. That sort of crime is, of course, never reported because it was an ‘ethnic-on-ethnic’ incident.

          • GraveDave

            I’ve been hearing these stories for the last twenty years or so. I also live in one of the most multicultural areas of west London. So I see it all.

    • fenlandfox

      I’ve met a few Sikhs who were particularly peeved about the abusers of Yorkshire being referred to as Asian,especially as their own community has been targeted by members of the rop in the same manner.

  • gerronwithit

    Jews, love them or loathe them have historically insinuated themselves into many countries and societies then proceeded to enrich them educationally, scientifically, musically and, yes, financially. For this they are usually rewarded for their truly progressive escapades with a pogrom for their troubles by the resentful ‘indigenous’ population who find them an easy target for every malaise existing within their societies. If only Jews could be more tolerant and integrate like the multicultural masses now enriching the UK with their enlightened views on race and religion.

  • Robertus Maximus

    How many signatures are required on a petition to force Parliament to debate a “one Jew in, one Muslim out” policy for this country?

    • Ivan Ewan

      I think it’s a hundred thousand.

  • Lord_Summerisle

    “A French Jewish journalist, Zvika Klein, was filmed walking through the Islamic State suburbs of Paris and being spat at, threatened, abused at every pace”
    Not what I saw. There was the odd comment and the odd person spitting on the ground as he passed. I’m white Anglo and if I went parading around poor Muslim areas for ten hours I too would experience hostility. Frankly I’m surprised he got so little abuse, he had such a slappable face and prissy manner he just kind of invited it.

    • Ten hour walk for a 1:36 video? That Paris “walk” may not be everything it seems, debunked here https://www.oximity.com/article/French-Media-Documents-Israeli-Reporte-1

    • mohdanga

      “I’m white Anglo and if I went parading around poor Muslim areas for ten hours I too would experience hostility.” And what would be your response if Muslims paraded around poor white, British neighbourhoods and experienced hostility? Most likely calls of ‘racism’, ‘Islamopobia’, ‘bigotry’, etc and sensitivity training for the neighbourhood.

      • Lord_Summerisle

        No, I don’t think the race or religion here much matters. Young men from poor backgrounds are often very defensive and tribal towards anyone not of their group on their territory. I’ve had worse than that from white boys and I’m white.

        • mohdanga

          ‘on their territory’. Yes, those are the operative words for Muslim no-go zones. Even the police and army don’t venture in. Not sure if that would ever be tolerated for a poor, white neighbourhood.

    • justsomeone

      So you’re saying that even though they kept calling him “Jew” while insulting him, it’s not a big deal. And oddly enough, you seem to think that if you would take a stroll there (in France, not Syria), you’d be subject to the same sort of attacks. Let’s say you would be. Wouldn’t that mean something is deeply wrong? Shouldn’t you be able to walk around Paris without being spat at and insulted over and over again? My guess is that it’s particularly awful for someone Jewish to simply walk around in these areas but also rather unpleasant for anyone who isn’t a Muslim.

  • john

    Bibi is a despicable creep and grabs every US $ he can while snidely insulting the President. Israel could not survive for a minute without the 1000% support it demands from the Yanks. The Dems should leave Congress 50% empty when the oaf stands up to offer his tired, right wing, warmongering sermon.

    • Guest

      what president?
      the islamo-monkey who has betrayed the entire world, including the ppl who voted for him?
      I think most would agree with insults hurled at Obrainless.

      • john

        Wow! A bit of a racism problem here.

        • mohdanga

          How is that racist? Bush was called ‘Bush*tler’ and all sorts of other negative names and it was all a big happy joke amongst the perpetually aggrieved.

          • john

            islamo-monkey ?

        • mohdanga

          He is a monkey….his response to Islamic terrorism is the same as a monkey that pushes the right button to get a treat. Whenever he is questioned on whether Islam is a threat or the cause it’s always the same response…’nothing to do with Islam’.
          He has stacked his administration with lackeys with links to the Muslim Brotherhood and expunged any reference to Islamic terrorism in training manuals for Homeland Security, etc. A Muslim terrorist kills 13 soldiers at Ft. Hood while yelling ‘Allu Akbar’, calls himself a terrorist working for Al Qaeda and even writes a letter to Obama saying he is a terrorist and President Selfie calls in ‘workplace violence’.

          • john

            He is a monkey….his response to Islamic terrorism is the same as a monkey that pushes the right button to get a treat.
            This is right wing echo chamber B/S but Rush Limbaugh would approve your views.

          • mohdanga

            And yet this is what Obama does, trots out the same old defense of Islam. Nothing ‘right wing echo chamber’ about it. And as if your response isn’t the typical leftwing reply to something that might upset your blinkered view…’racist’, ‘bigot’, blah, blah, blah.

        • Guest

          oh no!
          being called a racist – the worst thing you can be called today, beats ‘traitor’ and ‘pedophile’, innit?

    • Doctor Crackles

      When did you start loving Obama?

      • john

        Another off-topic insult opportunity. The topic is Bibi.

    • mohdanga

      And yet lefties like you were serenading Ahmadinejad a few years ago when he spoke at the UN and Yale, a real hero.
      Protecting your country from murderous Hamas and Muslim terrorists is now warmongering. Who knew.

  • jim

    The old empire builders ,international socialism and global capitalism sank the west into this multi culti mess but the whole process was accompanied by the cheerleading of the media and the western intellectual elite. If a few more of this tribe had shared Melanie Philips scepticism then I might feel differently.As it is I see them fleeing europe to live amongst their own in Israel and leaving us dumb goys to deal with a demographic timebomb.

  • edithgrove

    “Western European Jews are flooding to Israel because of homicidal Muslim attacks — in France, Denmark, Sweden and here in the UK too. ”

    I don’t think so Rod, from everything I’ve read anti-semitism has just risen up, like mist, all across Europe with no known cause or origin. This is the first I’ve heard that it may have something to do with Islam.

    • CortexUK

      And Jews aren’t flooding to Israel either. Good thing too, given that someone was telling us last year that no-one is safe in Israel…

    • mohdanga

      ‘Nothing to do with Islam.’ Please. Millions of Muslims pouring into Western Europe and breeding like flies…but anti-Semitism has nothing to do with Islam. Open your eyes.

      • edithgrove

        ’twas irony mohdanga

        • mohdanga

          OK, apologies.

  • ross

    Lol a classic EDL rant. Stop reading the daily mail, that will broaden your cultural understanding. I don’t even think the very right wing Israel would let you in mate, pleb.

    • Doctor Crackles

      You’ve escaped again

      • ross

        hello dr crackles. have a pop

  • CortexUK

    Anyone noticed the extremely strict moderation of all comments on any Jewish or Israel issues since Charlie Hebdo? How ironic.

    Every time I post in praise of Jewish history or culture, my contribution is left unmolested. But every time I post in criticism of a particular dodgy political leader who I won’t name, my comment is withheld or deleted.

    • Penny

      I wouldn’t jump to conclusions. Many people posting even innocuous comments are bewlidered when they go into moderation. There isn’t an actual person peering at the comments: it’s an automated system primed to react to trigger words. As others have posted about Netanyahu and their comments are still on the threads in question, it may be another word or words that you’ve used which have been rejected by this system. Sometimes it is unfathomable: I had a perfectly respectable post about Churchill hit the bin. As Sir Winston is hardly likely to be deemed – by a Tory-leaning publication – a “dodgy political leader”, I can only assume a part of one of his famous speech’s contained a trigger word or phrase.

      • justejudexultionis

        The Guardian exercises rigorous Stalinist censorship at every point. They removed over 1000 (yes, 1000) comments immediately after the Rotherham Islamic paedophile/multiculturalist mass rape atrocity, including my own, simply as they did not agree with its dogmatic PC agenda. Publications like The Guardian would almost prefer to sanction child rape than be seen to criticise Islamic bigots and abusers. Apparently, being a Muslim confers almost total legal immunity when carrying out criminal acts.

        • Penny

          The Guardian is a joke. It’s not called Komment Macht Frei for nothing! It even has its own “watch” site: CiFWatch. Elsewhere on the Spectator in recent days others have been writing of being banned and I honestly don’t think I know anyone who isn’t. It’s become a badge of honour – such is the view of the Guardian.

          But Guardianesque behaviour doesn’t seem to go on here. It is the immediacy of the flagging that tells you that there’s an automated system at play. You can repost your comment (as I do) once – and if – you can figure out the trigger word or phrase. Although I must admit, I couldn’t work out what the trigger word was in one of Churchill’s most famous speeches.

          • Sean L

            Yeah not always easy to work out the offending syntax. I know it can’t always be based on particular words alone because you can alter all conceivably objectionable terms and still be zapped, though when I was censored on a thread about smoking recently I realised that the offending term was f a g.

    • justejudexultionis

      Are you referring to that vicious nihilistic political death cult masquerading as a religion, also known as ‘the religion of peace’?

  • Retired Nurse

    I found this official report on Racist Violence in France by the European Network Against Racism – http://cms.horus.be/files/99935/MediaArchive/Racist%20Violence%20Report%20France%20-%20online.pdf – whilst crimes recorded as anti-Semitic have indeed increased since 2008, page 6 says quite clearly that the overwhelming number of attacks classified in this category are “graffiti,the authors of which remain unknown”
    Not minimising the effects of graffiti, which can be very distressing, but it would be interesting to see if that trend is responsible for the increase in crime figures in London – some reports say ‘anti-Semitic assaults’, others say ‘anti-Semitic attacks’. I’d hate to think of anyone leaving their own country because one cretin with a spray can had daubed 30 properties in an area with graffiti, but the press or whoever had given the impression they were all knife attacks by 30 individual maniacs.

  • KoolAid

    To claim that Netanyahu’s baby-killing has played no role in the antipathy of Europe’s Muhammedans towards its Jewish community is completely disingenuous.

    • Charlie in NY

      Two points. First, trotting out the old antisemitic trope of Jews as baby-killers is a poor way to start your comment. Do you really imagine that the Israeli Prime Minister actually targets babies, for that is what your comment suggests. Can you possibly be that ill-informed? Second, to suggest that what happens in the Middle East gives license to attack Jews anywhere is to argue that “Muhammedans,” as you call them, are to be patronized as moral imbeciles unable to control their impulses. On what basis are you exempting their actions from the accountability you would demand of every adult?
      In the future, you might consider internalizing an insight attributed to President Abraham Lincoln. “it is better to remain silent and thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.”

    • justejudexultionis

      To claim, as you do, that the massacring of Jews in supermarkets in Europe is justified because of some stupid conflict in the Middle East is disingenuous, immoral, cowardly and profoundly bigoted. You clearly don’t understand democracy or the value of human life and should perhaps consider moving to a country that will prove more conducive to your views, Saudi Arabia or Yemen, for instance.

      • KoolAid

        ZZZZzzzzzzzzzz……………

      • albert pike

        “In his book, Ben Gurion’s Scandals: How the Haganah & the Mossad
        Eliminated Jews, Giladi discusses the crimes committed by Zionists
        in their frenzy to import raw Jewish labor.”

        http://www.inminds.com/jews-of-iraq.html

        “You clearly don’t understand democracy or the value of human life and should perhaps consider moving to a country that will prove more conducive to your views, Saudi Arabia or Yemen”

        Or Israel.

  • Excellent job Rod – a breath of fresh air.

    Keep it up you’ll be made an honorary Israeli :o)

    Islam will use any and every excuse to create the taqiyya necessary to further its real aim – overthrow of our society. So long as we have the dim and dhimmi willing to accept it they simply enable them further.

  • The Masked Marvel

    Rod, would you mind passing this along to your former colleagues at the BBC? They seem to have a different idea. Thank you in advance.

  • justsomeone

    I thought we’re supposed to say these are problems, “tensions” as they say, “between the communities”. Either Liddle is dead wrong or else political correctness is a dogmatic, bankrupt, lying ideology.

  • Graeme S

    Rod … great article, alas the rise and rise of anti Semitism will continue as long as hordes of Muslims keep descending upon western Europe …

  • Terence Hale

    Hi,
    “It’s not Netanyahu’s fault that Jews in Europe are afraid”. This seems to go against the consensus of opinion. Mr. Netanyahu’s policy of blowing a town up irrespective of human life for someone throwing a stone has not exactly earned him the Nobel peace prize.

    • RandomGuy

      He does count for human life, but, he values the life of his own people more than the lives of those who support a terrorist organization.
      And nice going, justifying antisemitism.

    • Penny

      When did Netanyahu blow up a town because someone threw a stone?

    • justejudexultionis

      I think you will find he is defending his country. Have any of your psychotic jihadi bigots won the so-called Nobel ‘Peace’ Prize?

      • Terence Hale

        Hi,
        I am a Christian who value human life and take heed that propaganda soothes a guilty conscience.

        • Penny

          If you are a Christian with a conscience, why are you writing propaganda here, Terence? Netanyahu hasn’t blown up a town because someone threw a stone. If you value human life then why dismiss the deaths that have occurred – one only recently – as a result of this “stone” throwing (they’re rocks, actually)?

    • Freddythreepwood

      Mr Hale
      Please volunteer your family to stand directlly in the line of fire the next time ‘someone throws a stone’.

      • Terence Hale

        Hi,
        You comment just confirm what I have been trying to say and in my opinion what is happening to your people outside Israel as many times before, Israel needs a psychiatrist.

        • albert pike

          “Israel needs a psychiatrist”

          That would be true if they believed they wanted peace, which they don’t because if they had it, they wouldn’t be able to take more land. What they do need is the ICC to intervene, quickly.

        • Freddythreepwood

          May I suggest that you put more water in it? And I am not a ‘your people’.

          • Terence Hale

            Do you mean that wet wobble thing?

  • Innit Bruv

    STEPHEN LAWRENCE WASN’T JEWISH!!!!
    Who’s the halfwit? The main targets of racially-motivated violence in countries like Britain,France and the US are,and in recent history have always been, people with darker skin. Not the Jews.
    The main perpetrators are white and working class or like Mr. Oinkoink Liddle,
    white and lower middle class.
    No wall to wall coverage about that, no statements by the Home Secretary..
    Some forms of racism,it would seem. are more “acceptable”.

    • justejudexultionis

      You are not very clever. Jews are being targeted by racist bigots, mostly Islamic, on a daily basis in Europe. Black people clearly experience racism in the UK, as elsewhere, but they are not being machine-gunned in supermarkets and stabbed to death for no apparent reason.

      • And as a group, they tend to be far more responsible for attacks on others than victims of attacks, and their chief attackers are other bl–ks — certainly in the USA.

      • Innit Bruv

        No. YOU are not very clever!! “Black people….stabbed to death for no apparent reason”. Tell that to Stephen Lawrence’s or Anthony Walker’s family!!!!
        Tell that to the countless victims of Paki bashing.
        Moron!!!!!

  • justejudexultionis

    If only our dhimmi pseudo-leaders had half the courage of Netanyahu…

  • little islander

    You ‘get sick to the back teeth of this country’. You might like to consider moving to a place where house prices are less astronomical. Besides food and industries, an armed-to-the-teeth country like Israel would require plenty of square miles for military purposes. Jewish settlers from Europe would bring with them lots of money too and help keep property prices from sinking. Israel might make you more sick more often than ‘once in a while’.

  • Dogsnob

    By far the most perceptive, honest and courageous assessment I have read, anywhere, of our current situation. More power to your elbow Mr Liddle.

  • Zionist lackey

    The Palestinians are the real spanner in the works when it comes to peace in
    the Middle East. They have been given billions of dollars by the West and
    sympathetic oil rich Arab nations. The money was and still is being used to buy
    arms and, when he was alive, used by Arafat to pay-off his lieutenants. Very little of those billions have found their way over the troubled decades, since 1948 into grand social projects to help the Palestinian people in Gaza and the West Bank.

    The Israeli’s turned a desert into a vast fertile oasis; created a modern city called Tel Aviv; which created its own Silicone Valley that has brought much investment from the likes of Apple and Microsoft – Iron Dome was developed by Israel to
    protect its citizens from Hamas’s indiscriminating rockets.

    The Palestinians never developed the land they were part of during the 400 years
    under the Muslim rule of the Ottoman Turks. Since 1948, the Palestinians have
    sought to reclaim the land of Israel from the Jews, despite the United
    Nations recognition of the state of Israel.

    After the failure by the Palestinians and their Arab sponsors to regain the
    territory; the Palestinians left Israel in their droves. They turned to any
    Arab nation that was prepared to foster them; and those that did lived to
    regret it.

    In Jordon the Palestinians under the leadership of Yasser Arafat believed that
    Jordan would make a very nice Palestinian homeland and tried to overthrow the
    monarchy of King Hussein. The following civil war between Palestinians and the Jordanian monarchy, which took place between September 1970 and July 1971, was to become known as Black September; and resulted in Palestinian defeat, with over 20,000 killed by their fellow Arabs.

    The Palestinian leaders were hucksters trying to take advantage of the
    situation which they thought was an easy target- latter, in Lebanon they
    tried the same strategy once more with similar results.

    As Rod Liddle wrote; “Palestinians are [as seen by the Left as] blameless victims, and who do not wish to accept what we all know is true — that modern Islam harbours a murderous attitude toward Jews”. Indeed, the Muslim world does wish, not only the evisceration of the state of Israel and the eight million Jews in residency – but all Jews; for as long as there is a Jew left alive to try and recreate another Jewish state within the Middle East; then Jews will be a threat to Islam.

    • albert pike

      “The Israeli’s turned a desert into a vast fertile oasis;”

      And virtually depleted the Palestine’s natural water resources in the process.

      “On the other hand, Israel’s
      water resources have been strained beyond their capacity. Israel’s
      largest freshwater source, the Coastal Aquifer, was already over-pumped
      and saline by the 1950’s, and pollutants— both in the form of nitrates
      from fertilizers and effluents and chemicals from industrial
      waste-dumping—have severely lowered the qualities of numerous rivers in
      Israel, such as the Yarkon and Kishon rivers. The Jordan River and Dead
      Sea are steadily drying up due to water diversion upstream, and,
      regardless of all its utilizations of water for development, Israel’s
      current water allocations are approximately 500 cubic meters per
      capita. This is sadly short of the internationally recommended 1,000
      cubic meters, and below which a country is considered to have “water
      stress.””

      http://presentense.org/magazine/making-the-desert-bloom-israel%E2%80%99s-environmental-past-and-zionist-future

      At present the majority of Israel’s water comes from land it illegally occupies as a result of what it calls wars of defense.
      Luckily for Israelis they were able to ‘defend’ itself in these wars and occupy these water resources otherwise they would have all died of thirst a long time ago.

      • Zionist lackey

        In other words had the land called Israel continued to be occupied by the Palestinians after 1948, and with no Jews in the whole of the Middle East – the land would have either remained as barren as it had been for the 400 years of the Ottoman empire; or the Palestinians would have had to developed the land to cope with the increasing Palestinian population in the following 67 years

        Now, my betting is that the Palestinians would have done exactly the same as the Israelis for the sake of their people – and when it comes to the environment, the West have done far worse to their environments than Israel in order to sustain economic growth; which provided more jobs and kept food in people’s mouths.

        “. . . illegally occupies as a result of what it calls wars of defence.” What it calls its wars of defence? Albert Pike seems to doubt that In the three great conflicts between Israel and its Arab neighbours in 1948,1967, and 1973, Israel was in any way threatened.

        None of these conflicts were started by Israel (although Israel began the Six Day war, it was a pre-emptive strike in response to the military build-up on its boarders by Egypt and Syria – this is beyond dispute.

        They WERE defensive wars which Israel won and as a consequence ( as all victors do in war) land was captured – land which today would no longer be in Israel’s hands if the Arab world had not tried to destroy the state of Israel.

        Israel, for instance, lays claim to the Golan Heights that Israel captured from Syria. The Heights represents a strategic position overlooking Israel; and one which is vital to Israel’s security. So Israel has every right to claim ownership for as long as the Arab world’s attitude toward Israel continues. After all; we saw what happened when Israel gave Gaza back to the Palestinians.

        • albert pike

          “the land would have either remained as barren as it had been for the 400 years of the Ottoman empire;”

          The land was not at all barren. Another zionist myth.

          • Zionist lackey

            No land is ALL barren – even a desert has its odd oasis.

        • albert pike

          Besides the fact that moving troops to defend your borders is not illegal or an act of war, and as Israel knew Egypt had no intention of attacking, and as Israel began the six day war, how can you then claim the Arabs were trying to destroy Israel and Israel was entitled to retain the land it took?

          Israel has not given anything back to Gaza, it still maintains control over its airspace, seaports and borders, apart from those with Egypt, who do whatever the zionists tell them to do. Gaza is the world’s largest open air prison, nothing more, nothing less.

      • Mister Rible

        Hey Allah,

        thank you for not being on the side of the Palis, in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, first intifada, second intifada, 2006, 2010, 2012, 2014.
        It’s funny how those imbeciles keep doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result. What’s that called again?

        We heart you too Allah,

        xoxoxo.
        Zionists of the world

        • albert pike

          ” doing the same thing over and over again,”

          what thing is that?

  • albert pike

    “Israel ….with a bloody great big wall topped with razor wire running through the middle of i”

    There’s no bloody great wall running through the middle of Israel, mate. There is a bloody great wall, much of it on Palestinian land, running along what is regarded the limit of Israeli territory.

    You must believe that Israel has rights to all the West Best bank, mate. Interesting

    • Penny

      Israel has, albert. Below is an excerpt from an article by Eugene Rostow, one of the three men who drafted UN Resolution 242.

      “…The British Mandate recognized the right of the Jewish people to “close settlement” in the whole of the Mandated territory. It was provided that local conditions might require Great Britain to “postpone” or “withhold” Jewish settlement in what is now Jordan. This was done in 1922. But the Jewish right of settlement in Palestine west of the Jordan river, that is, in Israel, the West
      Bank, Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip, was made unassailable. That right
      has never been terminated an cannot be terminated except by a recognized peace between Israel and its neighbors. And perhaps not even then, in view of Article 80 of the U.N. Charter..”

      • albert pike

        You should tell the UN, penny, they believe that the occupation is illegal as is the wall.

        • Penny

          albert – Res 242 *is* a UN resolution! Article 80 is from the UN Charter. 242 was written in the aftermath of the 1967 war during which Israel was attacked by (among others) Jordan who had previously illegally annexed the West Bank.

          Explain to me why you think the occupation is illegal.

          • albert pike

            “war during which Israel was attacked by”

            Israel wasn’t attacked by anyone, Penny.

            Don’t lie

          • Penny

            1948, 1967, 1973. Are you saying these wars didn’t happen?

            But I asked you why you thought there was an illegal occupation. This is the pertinent part here.

          • albert pike

            I didn’t say it didn’t happen, I said Israel was not attacked. Nor was it in 1948, but it was in 1973

          • Penny

            So in your version of events, albert, what happened in 1948 and 1967? Did Israel wake up in a belligerent mood one day and decide to attack its neighbours?

            But can I again draw you back to the pertinent point: why do you say that Israeli illegally occupies West Bank? I’m not really interested in “because the UN says so”. I’m interested in what your understanding of the legalities actually is. From Israel’s perspective the West Bank is disputed territory. Thus, there is clearly more than one legal argument.

          • albert pike

            “Did Israel wake up in a belligerent mood one day and decide to attack its neighbours?”

            What day would that be Penny, do you have a date?

          • Penny

            Albert – you are cherry-picking points to answer. I just want to know why you think the WB is illegally occupied. I am not asking by way of challenge: I want to know how you’ve arrived at your view.

          • albert pike

            No Penny you claimed Israel has a right to the land because it was attacked. I said it wasn’t attacked in 1967 and neither was it 1948.

            Therefore Israel has no right to any of the land outside of what was mandated to it after WWII.

          • Penny

            OK – tell me why Israel was not attacked in 1948 and 1967.

            Interesting that you begin from WWII, because until 1922 the mandated land was much more than the tiny strip that Israel ended up with. But OK – let’s put the creation of Jordan out of that mandated land. Surely if, in 1947, the Arabs rejected yet another partition, it logically rejected borders? And if Jordan then illegally annexed the West Bank, when did the Palestinains actually ever have a designated piece of land?

            And you still haven’t answered my question about the legal arguments.

          • albert pike

            “tell me why Israel was not attacked in 1948 and 1967.”

            Duh, because Israel was the aggressor.

            “it logically rejected borders?”

            No it was questioning the UN’s right to carve up their land in the courts, when the zionists declared independence and the ethnic cleansing – that had begun some weeks earlier – went into overdrive.

          • Penny

            How was it the aggressor?

            Edit: what made it “their” land?

          • albert pike

            “How was it the aggressor?”

            The instigator of violence is the one who is usually referred to as the aggressor.

            “what made it “their” land?”

            They were living there, as had their ancestors for generations.

          • Penny

            So there was absolutely no instigation of violence – except on the part of Israel? It just woke up one morning and – for no reason whatsoever – attacked several different Arab armies in one go?

            The Jews were living there, too. It was also their land Prior to that it was Ottoman Turk land – there are no legal questions on that score so it was “their” land prior to the collapse of the empire.

            Many countries were re-defined in the collapse of the Ottoman and Austro-Hungarian empires and Israel was one of them. Jordan is another – do you think that was wrong? To say that Jews – who had a continuous presence in the land – should not have a sliver of it is rather like saying that, should America collapse, the native Americans have no rights to a portion of the land.

          • albert pike

            “It just woke up one morning”
            No as I told you, these had been planned a long time ago.
            In the case of the 1948 war, as soon as the zionists decided on making Palestine a home for the jews – “If they don’t leave of their own accord, we will make them leave.”

            1967 war, no later than 1938 when plans for the National Water Carrier were first discussed, or at least recorded.

            ” should not have a sliver”

            they want, and they need, rather more than a ‘sliver’.

          • Penny

            Albert – I note that any link you provide elsewhere is not academic. I think this is all rather pointless because you seem to want to cleave to a story that omits chunks of detail – detail that does not make the Arab world look as lily-white as you clearly would want them to – mixed with conspiracy nonsense like why the Israeli flag has two blue lines on it. It isn’t Israel that is seeking to take land and it isn’t Israel chanting “From the river to the sea”.

          • albert pike

            “chunks of detail”

            which ‘chunk of detail’ did you have in mind Penny?

          • Penny

            All of it? You skip over so much it’s hard to know where to begin. And then there is the conspiracy nonsense.

            And yet still – no answer to the actual legal question I posed. I haven’t endless amounts of time to sit at a keyboard, albert. Either we discuss the actual legal arguments or we don’t – but I’m not going to be continually diverted into conspiracy and detail-less allegations.

          • albert pike

            ” You skip over so much it’s hard to know where to begin”

            Well, you know something is missing, why don’t you start with what you know is missing?

          • Mister Rible

            Hey Allah,

            thank you for not being on the side of the Palis, in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, first intifada, second intifada, 2006, 2010, 2012, 2014.
            It’s funny how those imbeciles keep doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result. What’s that called again?

            We heart you too Allah,

            xoxoxo
            Zionists of the world

    • Mister Rible

      LONG LIVE ISRAEL AND ITS’ SUCCESS!

      😀

  • albert pike

    “Every day or so, a rocket pings across from the supposed nation of Palestine, bang, you’re dead.”

    How many people have died this week, Rod? 7,6? none?

    • Penny

      Do you think it’s normal to ping rockets into a neighbouring country, albert? This isn’t all about people dying, but about people constantly having to run to shelters. That might be an “inconvenience” to you if you’re young and able bodied and have no children. But a 15 second warning is, for many, an impossiblity.

      • albert pike

        Has it ever occurred to you that if Israel stopped killing Palestinians, ended the occupation there would be no rockets?

        “This isn’t all about people dying”

        I was replying to a previous post, perhaps you should direct the comment to them.

        • Penny

          How is Gaza occupied, albert?

          What you are doing here – and in other posts – is conveniently airbrushing out of the picture anything that implicates the Palestinians in this conflict. You make it all about Israel when that quite obviously is not the case.

          • albert pike

            “implicates the Palestinians in this conflict”

            I have the view Israel is occupying illegally Palestinian land, (if Israel were to withdraw to within the borders declared under partition then you could argue that it wasn’t illegally occupying anything) , Syrian land, Lebanese land and Saudi Arabian land. That it is continually stealing Palestinian land and that it has no intention on stopping until it has occupied all land between the Euphrates and the Nile, as depicted by its flag, and on some coins.

            You, on the other hand, probably believe that it is the Arabs who are occupying Israeli land.
            In your warped view Israel is liberating land illegally occupied by Arabs.

          • Penny

            Blimey – what a bunch of myths all gathered into one.

            Under Res 242, Israel cannot unilaterally withdraw. It cannot define the borders by itself but must do so by *mutual* agreement of where those borders should be. Israel is not going to withdraw to a border determined by Fatah that it cannot defend in the event of another attack. When two countries are going to be side-by-side, no single country can determine the borders – this is common sense.

            Even the UN does not agree that Israel is illegally in the 10sq km known as Shebaa. The Golan heights is, like, West Bank, a security risk. I think that’s rather obvious now. I’ve actually no idea what you mean about Israel occupying Saudi Arabian land.

            How is Israel continually stealing Palestinian land?

            . When Israel handed back the Sinai to the Egyptians it also handed back the billion dollar Alma oilfield that had been supplying Israel’s energy needs. It gave back Gaza and it has handed of much of West Bank to the administrative control of the PA. How do you reconcile that with your conspiracy theory? If its aim is to swallow up land, it seems to be going a strange way about it..

            it is the Palestinians and their supporters who have a “from the river to the sea” chant, albert, not the Israelis. “From the river to the sea” would be, in fact, from the river Jordan to the Med – all of Israel. Israel is NOT Palestinian land. The Palestinians have had 70%+ of that mandated land in the form of the creation of Jordan. By contrast Israel is tiny, so really – who is seeking to take all the land here?

            Your point about the flag is amusing: it’s a star of David between two
            blue stripes but to you that represents two rivers??! It might equally
            represent a tallit. I haven’t got an Israeli coin to hand but your whole
            premise is a nonsense

            I don’t have a “warped” view. Mine is based on historical fact. I don’t have to invent silly stuff to make a case.

          • albert pike

            “When Israel handed back the Sinai to the Egyptians it also handed back the billion dollar Alma oilfield”

            For which Egypt paid $800 million. The price was to include the towns around it but Israel destroyed them after it had got the money.

            Israel also agreed in that agreement to return autonomy of the Palestinian, land it was illegally occupying within 5 years. That was 42 years ago.

          • Penny

            So if Israel dismantles settlements on the West Bank, will you say they’ve been destroyed?

            Can you be specific about which “agreement” you are talking about? And again – can you tell me why the land is “illegally” occupied?

            Edit: How much would Israel have benefited energy-wise and financially over the years if it had not handed back the Alma oilfield?

          • albert pike

            “which “agreement”
            Are you really as thick as you try to appear to be?

            ” How much would Israel have benefited energy-wise and financially over the years if it had not handed back the Alma oilfield?”

            Considering it wasn’t Israel’s in the first place, that is rather a mute point. What Israel did get out of it was the Sinai II agreement, check it out, it’s really something.

            As for money, Israel got gas from Egypt at about one quarter the market value.

            http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ar/originals/2014/03/egypt-gas-israel-sisi-economy-shortage.html#

          • Penny

            Is it necessary to be rude? You speak of agreements about the Palestinians – there are many. Please specifcy the one you mean. Someone saying “that” agreement might be all you need, but I’m a little more picky.

            As I said, this is all rather pointless. You seem to think the term “cause and effect” is meaningless and focus your arguments only on “effect”.

          • albert pike

            “Someone saying “that” agreement”

            The one you were referring to, of course.

          • Guest

            hey, how about those cuddly Palis throwing each other off rooftops?

            can;t wait until that starts again – fun time.

          • Guest

            Muslims have over 50 countries and it’s not enough, they keep wanting more, and they complain about Jews having 1?

            F*** off!

        • Mister Rible

          maybe they should complain to Egypt then

    • Mister Rible

      don’t complain when Palestinians start to die though

      launching rockets into another nation’s sovereign territory, is considered…..what’s that word again……oh yeah…..AN ACT OF WAR!

      And illegal btw.
      rockets come out of Gaza = bombs go into Gaza.

      xoxoxo

  • I deplore racism. I am still furious about the lunatic attacks in Paris. Radical Islam has a lot to answer for, but Jews having to move to Israel from the UK? Pull the other one, do. Look – I hate the people who attacked those policemen and Jews shopping on a Friday afternoon. I have EVERY sympathy with anyone who is angry and determined to put a stop to such outrages, but let’s just keep this in perspective. How is Israel preferable to England for Jews? Jews live here as a long accepted and respected minority. The actions of the odd madman can affect any of us and have done. Jews were not targeted on July 7th 2005, we all were and by standing together and dealing with those who commit violence we make our society better. We don’t make it better by exaggerating the risks we face and running away from it.
    I’m not a Jew. I’m not black. I’m not gay, but I could go to parts of this city and walk about and risk getting robbed, or abused. I know this from experience. I think that some Jews interpret the actions of disorderly imbecilic barbarians as specifically targeted at them when they aren’t. The people may make some insane, disorderly remark containing the word ‘Jew’, but if it was me, the criminal scum would just make a different remark and behave in the same uncivilised way. As for Zvika Klein’s jaunt around the dangerous immigrant districts of Paris; he was walking there wearing a white Kippur and he edited hours of walking into an unpleasant, concentrated few minutes. Little has been said of the fact that on occasions other people intervened on his behalf (as anyone sane should have done) and protested at the behaviour of unpleasant scum.

    A less emotional analysis of life for Jews in Britain or in France would examine the episodes of serious violence AND low level unpleasantness experienced by Jews, black people and other people and see just how special the unpleasantness and violence against Jews is. Aside from a couple of appalling and isolated incidents of a very grave sort, I don’t think that the average Jew in Britain has anything different to put up with than I do.

    • Augustus

      Yes, but aren’t the Jews a bit to blame for all this themselves? You often see on TV how youth gangs wearing yarmulkes go about robbing the elderly, robbing jewelry shops etc. And how Jewish boys taunt and harass any woman not wearing a wig. And how they daub every Muslim shop with the Star of David. And how they march through the streets shouting Yisrael Beiteinu! You’re bound to get a bit of anti-Semitism when they behave like that.

      • A very stupid response. I suppose you thought it was clever or funny. On the contrary, it was ridiculous.

        • Helen of Troy

          No it wasn’t. His point is well made. It may not be your style, but so what?

          • Nonsense. I wrote a reasoned post about the need to keep our perception of risk in proportion to the reality. He concocted a sarcastic fantasy, parodying the so called ‘blood libel’, as if that was my position. Read the two posts and you will see that he is a liar and a distorter of the truth. It was the work of someone more interested in propaganda than in reality, division more than standing together to defeat extremists. Those who suggest as he does that a whole community are responsible for the actions of madmen and criminals are no better than those who presented vile, stereotyping cartoons of Jews in mid-twentieth century Europe. What’s his solution to the problem of two hideous criminal attacks on innocent Jews in a continent of five hundred million people – deportation of Muslims and a Final Solution? Our response to the crimes of aberrant minority criminals must deal with them, not create a mood of fear and loathing that spreads far and wide. Perhaps some people forget the cultural background of the man who hid Jews in the fridge and saved their lives.

    • gelert

      There were four times as many attacks on Jews than Muslims in London last year. If you worked it out on a per capita basis it would probably be even worse.

      • Where do your figures come from? I have seen nothing to substantiate such a claim that comes from an unbiased, reputable source. If you have one, please do publish it so we can see the data and the source. It is my contention that Jews are a long resident and well respected community of people in this country and that only a lunatic fringe have any issue with them. I live not far from a large Jewish community and almost never hear of any issues on the local BBC news for these people. The last cases I am aware of, and the incident happened many years ago now, was criminal damage to a cemetery. These people are Harredi Jews, dress very differently to other people and are easily recognisable, yet they seem to carry on their lives without incident serious enough to make the local news, which is full of cases of criminal assault, robbery and other bad behaviour against the general population . I live on Tyneside, not far from the locality where the small disabled man was robbed in Gateshead recently – it is hardly a leafy shire without immigrants and bad behaviour, and yet the large population of Harredi Jews in Low Fell and Gateshead live happily enough and prosper, just like the rest of us.

        • gelert

          My figures were from memory. Unfortunately, the 4 to 1 ratio was actually done on a per capita basis – my error. See the source below;

          http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11367966/The-rising-tide-of-anti-Semitism.html

          A similar figure was made on a televised political program recently.

          I doubt if many, rather any, attacks on Muslims were committed by Jews. On the other hand, I would guess most of the attacks on Jews were by Muslims.

          The BBC usually downplay attacks on Jews, but become very excited about anything that suggests “Islamophobia”.

          Attacks on Haredi Jews in Manchester have occurred.

          Perhaps there are fewer Muslims in Geordieland 😉

          • There are 1564 Haredi Jews in Gateshead just outside Newcastle and a substantial population of other Jews in the districts of Gosforth, Jesmond and other areas of Newcastle. There is a substantial population of Muslim people in the city, which like many other urban areas has proved attractive to newcomers. You can read about the important Haredi Yeshiva in Gateshead in these links ->

            https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=jaredi+jews+in+gateshead&gws_rd=cr,ssl&ei=etTyVNOQN4flaMeVgdAG

            The question under discussion is whether there are large numbers of serious, or low level attacks and harassment. Although I keep abreast of the news relating to this area, I am completely unaware of any at all. This article is about the question of whether Jews need to emigrate to save themselves. My contention is that such talk is hysterical, hyperbolic and ridiculous. Please tell me when the last Jew was killed by a terrorist or an islamic extremist in England if you can. When was a synagogue last bombed here or when were Jews in England last put in the position of fighting off a gunman at a place of worship or a school.

            As for insults and the stupid taunts of school boys – this has happened to me – a white, middle class Englishman. Youths are at times complete oafs. If this happens to a Jew it is no different to when it happened to me, or to when my sister was referred to loudly as a witch by a mob of uncouth youths.

          • gelert

            I’m not sure if it is naivety or stupidity that convinces you that there is no threat to Jews in the UK and that any abuse they receive is merely due to yobbish behaviour.

            You should come out of your Geordie cocoon and see what is happening elsewhere in the UK where there are higher concentrations of Muslims.

            Perhaps this Guardian article will convince you that it is not just adolescent white males who are doing this,

            http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/05/antisemitic-attacks-uk-community-security-trust-britain-jewish-population

            During anti-“Zionist” marches in London last year there were chants of “Kill the Jews” and “Hitler was right” – the police did nothing. Try saying the same thing about Muslims and you will soon have your collar felt.

            A shop in Manchester that sold Israeli products was boycotted last year by a crowd who intimidated would-be shoppers. The same group try to run boycotts of stores that sell Israeli produce.

            There have been attempts by various councils, and universities, to boycott Israel and Israeli products. George Galloway called for an “Israeli-free Bradford”. Israel. or Zionist, is just PC for Jew.

            Jewish schools have been been taking steps to protect their pupils and staffs for years, not just recently.

            No. it’s not as bad as Paris. But when the UK has 10% Muslims, like France, rather than the present 6%, you can expect more and more of this.

            Hitler didn’t start with the camps. His initial steps were the demonising and boycotting of Jewish stores and professionals. It went gradually, culminating in Krystallnacht and then the beginning of deportation.

            There is quite open anti-Semitism in Britain today, often under the guise of anti-Zionism. The threat to Jews is there and it is getting worse.

            I suggest you get your head out of the sand.

            PS

            Don’t lecture me about your local Haredi etc. I grew up in North London, where there are more Jews than anywhere else in the UK. Having known so many Jews probably inured me against the anti-Semitism that was still so common as I grew up in the 50s and 60s and is now far worse.

    • gelert
  • tolpuddle1

    Another vacuous article with plenty of rhetoric and no practical suggestions, merely an opportunity for Rod to ‘ave-a-go at multi-cultural liberals and so on.

    If Rod is the best support that European Jews can rely on, no wonder they’re making tracks for Israel. Feel free to join them, Rod.

  • Augustus

    It’s not just ‘modern Islam that harbours a murderous attitude toward Jews’, anti-Semitism has flourished for millennia, and look what happened when Israel declared its sovereignty in 1948, it quickly filled with Jewish immigrants from the surrounding Arab nations who booted them out even if their families had lived there for generations. And for years Israel has been welcoming Jewish immigrants from nations like Russia, Ethiopia, Ukraine, France, and even some from the U.S.

    The more Islamic influences, aided and abetted by today’s left-wing politics, seek to undermine all the tolerant aspects of individual freedom and democratic governance, the more Jews, who represent a very tiny minority of the world’s population, will be convenient victims. And the more Netanyahu’s recent call to European Jews to move to Israel will be viewed as a very real alternative to trying to keep a low profile as a Jew.

  • Terry Field

    Jews in Britain and Europe are terrified because the citizenry in those countries are in sadly quite significant minorities a bunch of racists and are the eternal feedstock of the super-violence that this murderous part of the world repeatedly enjoys.

  • bobmattfran

    Blame the liberal left politicians and media for failing to confront violent anti-Semitism.
    The starting point surely would be to define anti-semitism?

    The correct definition would be anything by word or deed, that insults, disadvantages or threatens those of the semite race. Here lies the problem for all the raving whining Zionist the majority of whom are neither semite of Jewish.
    The writer (Rod Liddle) is doing nothing more than regurgitating the usual ppor argument of introducing the high jacked phrase anti-semitism in a feeble attempt to deflect attention from the real problem, Netanyahu. This the man who’s government is infested with the remnants of the two criminal gangs of eastern European thugs claiming to be Jewish who murdered Britih soldiers in Jerusalem in 1948. The Stern Gang being one and Irgun being the other. None of these thugs where never brought to trial as they were effectively protected by the USA.
    There are two countries responsible for the Jews in Europe feeling insecure. 1)mThe Stae of mIsrael headed by the 21st Century Nazi, Ntanyahu and his cohorts, who are continuing an ethnic cleansing program of the Palestinians, stealing their land, killing their women and childen with their IDF thugs and 2) The Zionist/AIPAC controlled USA whom supports and funds Israel to the extent they use their vote in the UN to silence any legal criticism of Netanyahu or Israel. Needless to say they are supported by USA’s number one fawning lapdog the UK
    perhaps the decent Jews aropund the world , and there are many of them who are disgusted with Netanyahu, shoud boycott Israel and use every opportunity to criticise him and his wqrmongering vile behaviour? Otherwise they unfortunately will remain unwilling pawns in this murderoos evil man’s game.

    • zoid

      yawn……the stern gang/irgun, over 60 years old, is all you can come up with…

      you’re the kind of ‘anti zionist’ which makes me suspicious of the motives of all ‘anti-zionists’…….now go pull on your jackboots and polish your helmet whilst you whistle the horst wessel lied.

      i wish we had a pm like bibi. i’d vote for him every time, because he stands up for his country.

    • Guest

      oh if only Irgun was as small and irrelevant as all those friendly and peaceful islamist terrorist organisations…

      wait a minute…..what do you mean Irgun has not existed for over 60 years?

      but Rotherham exists, together with other british rape towns, raping away tens of thousands of british girls – how’s that for relevance?

      Jooooos make em do it, innit?

    • WTF

      You’re correct in regard to your definition of a Semite but that misses the point entirely. In today’s parlance, discrimination is a much better term as it encompasses ALL forms of special treatment (good and bad) by one person or group against another person or group. As for The Stern Gang, its ancient history, or no consequence in todays troubles and basically irrelevant to this debate.

      As for whose responsible for the Jews in Europe feeling insecure, your conflation of two other regions of the world being the cause is risible, a sick joke and beyond belief. What Israel does or America does has nothing to do with Jews in the UK who go about their business in peace unlike some Muslims.

      They never blow up buses, sexually groom young girls, practice FGM or have enforced marriages of their young girls to pedophiles and excuse that sort of behavior on cultural reasons or the fact that there’s a spat going on 3000 miles away from the UK. You might as well blame the Romans for our problems as they have as much relevance to todays issues as perceived injustices not even in the UK. In fact, do the Jews kill, maim or blow up Italians in Rome because they were persecuted by the Romans, of course not and its about time Muslims woke up to the fact that their problems are all self made.

      It is Islamic barbarity practiced in the UK and Europe that has everyone and not just Jews fearing for their safety. Using your lame excuses as justification, perhaps I’ll go on a Christian Crusade and be-head a few Islamics in Rotherham based on my perceived injustice that I believed was carried out in the name of Islam 200, 300 or 500 years ago. You really are pathetic with your conflated petty justifications of yesteryear that have no purpose in todays conflicts. Illiterates can all play that dumb game but thankfully most of us have moved on and look to the future instead of having that massive chip on one shoulder and a race card in your hand.

    • imtirtzu

      The German historians and journalists who were responsible for the wider use of the new term in the 1880s were absolutely clear what “anti-Semitism” was intended to mean.

      Similarly, the various bigots around the world who try to reinvent the definition are also familiar with what anti-Semitism means.

  • Mister Rible

    Albert Pike:

    Dear Allah,

    thank you for NOT being on the side of the Palis, in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, first intifada, second intifada, 2006, 2010, 2012, 2014.
    It’s funny how those imbeciles keep doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result. What’s that called again?
    Just how stupid and sociopathic do you have to be to keep attacking a nation, stronger then you, knowing, you will never win?

    We heart you too Allah,

    xoxoxo
    Zionists of the world

  • John Andrews

    The Israelis treat the Palestinians very badly – and vice versa.

  • Jackthesmilingblack

    Not generally known, but Bennie the bomber’s older bother Jonathan was killed in the Entebbe raid. Obviously this wasn’t part of the plan.
    In any event, research it yourselves, you might learn something.

  • uberwest

    ‘The animus and hatred is deep-rooted, and given succour by the gentile left’

    Amongst the leading lights of the left are several Jewish people.

  • philodoc

    Liddle has lost it, again. Most anti semitism is actually anti zionism. The word semite includes arab as well as other peoples. The Israeli government are war criminals who are protected by USA from being brought to book by UN and others. The west bank settlers are thieves just like the early european settlers who invaded “America” and stole the land from the native “Americans”. The zionists were/are terrorists; it is all a matter of perspective, and vested interests. Liddle clearly has some vested interests that he wants to protect.
    Liddle is perpetuating the concept of the victim jew, an idea clearly born of the holocaust but no longer relevent. The victim jew concept is a fig leaf to hide the illegal behaviour of zionists and their puppet government(s) both past and present. The victim strategy has been very successful for decades, especially as the concept has been reinforced by western media also for decades. You do not hear about victim Russians even though Stalin eliminated at least five times more people in Soviet Russia than Hitler did in Europe; similarly Maop in China.
    Liddle is a disgrace to journalsim – bring back Peter Oborne.

    • gelert

      Anti-Semitism was a PC term coined in late 19C Germany as more acceptable than Jew-hate. Not much doubt that is what you are.

  • GuevaraS

    Wow I could have sworn Rod Liddle was Jewish/had a Jewish heritage. Well good thing for Jews he doesn’t – most of his views are whiny and selfish and completely miss the point.

  • A.Alexander

    Great.I`d add about the racism blame: becomes obvious Hitler and nazi were not racists,prefered Islam and Semitic Muslims as SS men. The nazi hate was the cultural one – of the Christian heritage. The contemporary Islamists were tought by the European anti-semites.

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