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The myth of the White Widow

Why Samantha Lewthwaite almost certainly isn’t as monstrous – or as important – as the papers are telling you

1 November 2014

9:00 AM

1 November 2014

9:00 AM

Over the past year or so, a determined and fanatical Islamist has been waging a deadly and bloody war against the western world. This enemy is capable of moving unnoticed across continents and inflicting savage violence in each of them; inspires young Muslim men to become suicide bombers and die in their thousands. The enemy is particularly horrifying for being a traitor, born in Britain and a woman to boot. The ‘White Widow’, remember her? Samantha Lewthwaite from Aylesbury, usually described by our tabloid press as one of the most evil and powerful women alive.

But is she really evil? Is she really even much of a threat? My contention is that what we’ve witnessed over the past year is the curious demonisation of a misguided young woman who certainly has a morbid track record but who is far from an important or influential enemy of the West. There’s a huge disparity between the hype over Lewthwaite and the reality that should make us wary of believing even so-called ‘insider’ reports about her.

The Daily Star, for instance, published a front-page report claiming that 30-year-old Lewthwaite has become ‘one of the most powerful women’ in the Islamic State network. The foot soldiers call her ‘the special one’, it said, and she has already started training a ‘special team’ of female suicide bombers to be deployed in the Middle East and beyond.

So should we mobilise special forces to hunt this woman down before she strikes again? No. Because we’ve heard this sort of thing about her before. Just over a year ago the ‘White Widow’ was deemed guilty of perpetrating the Westgate shopping mall attack in Nairobi, when armed gunmen killed 67 people and injured hundreds. Almost as soon as the attack began, word went out that Lewthwaite was one of the killers. Kenya’s foreign minister publicly pronounced the complicity of a white British woman who ‘has done this many times before’, and bloggers and journalists bandied her name around. ‘Eyewitnesses’, mostly anonymous, said they saw a woman matching her description barking out orders, while others claimed they saw her slip out of the mall, ‘face covered in blood’.

Within hours, Interpol had issued a ‘Red Notice’ against Lewthwaite, making her arrest a top priority. Back in Aylesbury, friends and former acquaintances were amazed. Lewthwaite had never been a born leader, they said, but a natural follower. Some people even pointed out that she was not known to have any military experience or training: to plan and execute an attack as brazen and brutal as Westgate would have needed much of both.


None of this calmed the frenzy. Reporters from the world over descended on the quiet road where Lewthwaite had once lived. There were endless stories, rumours and speculation about her past and present. Her private life came under scrutiny, and the strong insinuation was that she was not only murderous but spider-like, delighting in her victims’ suffering.

Less well reported, then and now, was the fact that as the siege dragged on, ministers and ‘intelligence sources’ began to retract their claims. The eyewitnesses and ‘intelligence reports’ had been mistaken, they admitted. There had been no white woman among the killers, just several young African men. In fact, there was and still is no evidence that Lewthwaite was involved in the Westgate attack, let alone that she was a ringleader.

What of the claims that she has now become an important commander in the Islamic State, planning and carrying out attacks in Syria and Iraq? I wouldn’t believe a word of it. After Westgate, Lewthwaite’s name and face became notorious. She was and is still regarded as the ‘world’s most wanted woman’, and at checkpoints and border crossings across the continent, security personnel watch for her, knowing that a capture, or even information about her whereabouts, could reap big rewards.

This makes it very unlikely that she would have risked travelling from Somalia, where she is thought to have been lying low for the past few years, to the Middle East. True, she could have had plastic surgery — as some Kenyan officials, perhaps keen to hide their own inefficiency, have claimed. But good plastic surgeons aren’t easy to find in remote parts of East Africa.

That Lewthwaite, even if she had made such a journey, could have then joined the ranks of IS and, within months, vaulted to the top of an Arabic-speaking organisation defies belief. So too does that claim about the ‘special team’.

Samantha Lewthwaite is certainly no angel. She probably knew something of what her first husband, Germaine Lindsay, whom she married in 2002 when she was just 18, planned to do on 7/7. Lindsay, who killed 26 people on that day, was utterly brainwashed by the message of jihad, and his beloved must have shared his convictions. Lewthwaite has written poems celebrating Osama bin Laden, and explosives were found at a flat she was renting, using a false name and passport, in Kenya in 2011. But, on the various frontlines of radical Islam — on 7/7, in Kenya, Somalia and the Middle East — there is no reason to suppose that she has ever taken more than a secondary role. Media reports have hugely inflated her importance and by doing so have obscured much more important actors, and issues.

How, then, do we explain the elevation of Samantha Lewthwaite? Perhaps it is partly because the story of fallen women has always fascinated men. We’ve been simultaneously repelled and attracted by the idea of sinful women since Eve — especially attractive woman, and there’s no doubt Samantha Lewthwaite has a photogenic appeal.

Equally, there’s something very ordinary about Lewthwaite, very girl-next-door. She comes from a normal market town in the south of England and was pulled, as so many youngsters are, into the clutches of Islam’s radical fringes by a desire for purpose and excitement. So perhaps we’ve wrapped around her this myth as a way of warding off the evil from our own ordinary lives. It scares us that a girl-next-door can be drawn into such a nefarious world, so we must imagine her to be different, evil — the  White Widow.

Roger Howard is the author of Terror in the Tropics: Al-Qa’eda and the Attack on the Nairobi Shopping Mall.

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  • “Why Samantha Lewthwaite almost certainly isn’t as monstrous – or as important – as the papers are telling you”

    I never thought she was, since I pay attention to the news, unlike everyone else who reads this site.

    Take a look at the scene of the World War I memorial incident in Canada moments after the false flag operation occurred…

    http://wpmedia.news.nationalpost.com/2014/10/1023_shooting_284.jpg

    Yeah, the bystanders and police are watching a drill (in fact, most of the bystanders are paying no attention to the incident) that went live, which is called a false flag operation.

    The same tell-tale spectator behavior was seen at the May 2013 Woolwich, London incident, where two Muslim converts were said to have nearly severed a British soldier’s head…

    http://www.wiseupuk.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Picture1.png

    Funny, huh? No one stops her!

    Here’s another lady approaching the murderer holding knives, unconcerned, and none of the spectators watching and taking pictures in the foreground stops her either, because there was no murder of Lee Rigby…it was simply a drill at this stage…

    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00415/VIDEO_GRAPHIC_ITV_W_415810a.jpg

    Hilarious!

    In fact, in the Woolwich, London incident MI5 forgot to place the pools of blood on the sidewalk before the cell phone cameras started snapping up pictures of the crime scene, before the late arrival of the armed police…

    http://theageofvolcanoes.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/bs-4.jpg

    …and here’s the sidewalk with the pools of blood, after the arrival of the armed police…

    http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/beheading8.jpg

    The “War on Terror” is a USSR & Allies-tasked operation being carried out by the co-opted governments of the West, the purpose being to (1) destroy the prominence of the West in the eyes of the world, where the West is seen (i) invading nations without cause; (ii) causing chaos around the globe; and (iii) killing over one-million civilians and boasting of torture; (2) close off non-Russian supplies of oil for export, thereby increasing the price of oil, the higher price allowing oil exporting Russia to maintain economic stability while she modernizes and increases her military forces; (3) destroy the United States Armed Forces via the never-ending “War on Terror”; the ultimate purpose of the aforementioned to (4) bring about the demise of the United States in the world, opening up a political void to be filled by a new pan-national entity composed of Europe and Russia (replacing the European Union), a union from the “Atlantic to Vladivostok”; which will (5) see the end of NATO.

    The fraudulent “collapse” of the USSR (and East Bloc) couldn’t have been pulled off until both political parties in the United States (and political parties elsewhere in the West) were co-opted by Moscow & Allies, which explains why verification of the “collapse” was never undertaken by the West, such verification being (1) a natural administrative procedure (since the USSR wasn’t occupied by Western military forces); and (2) necessary for the survival of the West. Recall President Reagan’s favorite phrase, “Trust, but verify”.

    Notice that not one political party in the West demanded verification of the collapse of the USSR, and the media failed to alert your attention to this fact, including the “alternative” media. When determining whether the “former” USSR is complying with arms control treaties, what does the United States do to confirm compliance? Right, the United States sends into the “former” USSR investigative teams to VERIFY compliance, yet when it’s the fate of the West that’s at stake should the collapse of the USSR be a ruse, what does the United States do to confirm the collapse? Nothing!

    It gets worse–the West also never (1) de-Communized the Soviet Armed Forces of its Communist Party officer corps, which was 90% officered by Communist Party members; and (2) arrested and detained the 6-million vigilantes that assisted the Soviet Union’s Ministry of the Interior and police control the populations of the larger cities during the period of “Perestroika” (1986-1991)!

    There can be no collapse of the USSR (or East Bloc nations) without…

    Verification, De-Communization and De-mobilization.

    The West never verified the collapse of the USSR because no collapse occurred, since if a real collapse had occurred the West would have verified it, since the survival of the West depends on verification. Conversely, this proves that the political parties of the West were co-opted by Marxists long before the fraudulent collapse of the USSR, since the survival of the West depends on verification.

    Now you know why up until 2013 the “electorates” of Russia, Ukraine and Georgia had been “electing” for president only Soviet era Communist Party member Quislings, except for the first president of Georgia, Zviad Gamsakhurdia, a true dissident who didn’t even last nine months in office before he was ousted in a coup, later said to have committed “suicide”. Zviad Gamsakhurdia was a failed test run to see if a non-Communist Party member president could be controlled.

    • Jim

      You’ll never get back the time you spent writing that nonsense.

      • Which nonsense is that? You mean like the following nonsense too…

        Not one statue to Lenin, nor any other Communist “hero”, was destroyed after the Soviets were “freed” of Communist oppression back in late 1991*…

        “Almost every town in Russia has a prominent statue of Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, father of the October Revolution…”

        http://www.saint-petersburg.com/monuments/ploshchad-lenina/

        …and those statues that were taken down in Russia, and other republics that make up the USSR, are safely hidden in parks or museums, to be eventually returned to their former locations after the defeat of the West.

        The only statues to Lenin (and other Communist heroes) taken down in Russia were located in those areas where Western tourists visit the most. Those statues were carefully lifted and relocated, in the case of Moscow, to Fallen Monument Park…

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallen_Monument_Park

        The same subterfuge is taking place in other republics that make up the USSR, where statues to Lenin (and Marx) taken down are hidden, not destroyed, in the case of Tallinn, Estonia, at the Maarjamaë Palace…

        http://nienkebos.wordpress.com/category/maarjamae-palace/

        …and in Lithuania, statues to Lenin and Marx are located at Grūtas Park, which also incredulously has, now get this, a Soviet theme park, replete with “…a mini-zoo and cafes, all containing relics of the Soviet era. On special occasions actors stage re-enactments of various Soviet-sponsored festivals”!…

        http://www.goworldtravel.com/travel-lithuania-grutas-park-reminder-of-dark-past/

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C5%ABtas_Park

        There can be no collapse of the USSR when thousands of statues to Lenin remain standing throughout Russia.

        ———————————————-
        *The only statues to Lenin that were destroyed in the “former” USSR occurred in February 2014, when hundreds were toppled…

        http://leninstatues.ru/leninopad

        …due to the weakened security apparatus within the nation, where most of the Ukrainian Army was in either Syria or Iraq, or preparing to enter Iraq from Turkey, pretending to be Muslim “Jihadists” (Islamic State). The Islamic State “Jihadists” attired in Ninja uniforms, wearing the silly balaclava masks, are the Ukrainians, hiding their pale Caucasian/Slavic identities under those masks…

        http://www.cp24.com/polopoly_fs/1.1920657!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/image.jpg

        Those are professional soldiers (1) cradling their weapons in the military stand down position, with trigger finger kept just outside the trigger guard; and (2) marching in disciplined, two-row, tight formations.

        • AtMyDeskToday

          Ok, I guess you’re holed up somewhere in the Appalachians cradling your M16, two years supply of food squirreled away. It’s safe to come out now, the Millennium has passed.

          • “Ok, I guess you’re holed up somewhere in the Appalachians cradling your M16, two years supply of food squirreled away. It’s safe to come out now, the Millennium has passed.”

            Another Marxist performing the only damage control allowed, because they dare not repeat my proofs!

          • The Red Bladder

            Frankly I’d be scared rigid to repeat your claims.

          • “Frankly I’d be scared rigid to repeat your claims.”

            I’m Irish. We don’t scare easily. In fact, not at all. Why is it always left to the Irish to save Western Civilization?

          • The Red Bladder

            I tremble to ask really but just and how and when did the Irish save western civilisation? Obviously the Marxist teaching profession give that one a wide berth but I bet you are on the case like a dog on a bone.

          • jjjj

            But don’t you want to know how the Muslims have saved Western Civilization? I’m all agog.

          • The Red Bladder

            Well that’s as plain as the nose on your face. They were in league with the Irish, I thought everyone knew that. The last bastions in the encroaching tide of Marxism were always the Irish and the Muslims, what a partnership!

          • Harry Pond

            The Catholics and Muslims have always got on like a house on fire- best of mates throughout history!

          • The Red Bladder

            Have they really? Bit like the Barbary Pirates and the Aztec High Priests I suppose?

          • Harry Pond

            yes, always been the best of friends Red.

          • The Red Bladder

            Well you do learn things on here, that chap Dean Jackson has certainly opened my eyes!

          • Jackthesmilingblack

            You been reading the Beano again?

          • “…how and when did the Irish save western civilisation?”

            http://chalcedon.edu/research/articles/it-takes-a-monk-to-save-a-civilization/

          • John Croston

            “We recognize the name of Patrick, but most know little about his successors, like Columcille and Columbanus, who spread the Christian message beyond Ireland to Britain and then to continental Europe. ”
            Silly boy. Patrick was British. He introduced Christianity to Ireland. The religion was already well established in Roman Britain and Europe well before he or Columcille and Columbanus were born, of course.

          • “Patrick was British. He introduced Christianity to Ireland.”

            Really?

            “The religion was already well established in Roman Britain and Europe well before he or Columcille and Columbanus were born, of course.”

            We’re not talking about religion. We’re talking about the cultural legacy of Western Civilization.

        • Part II

          Two revealing admissions from Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev and Soviet minister of foreign affairs Eduard Shevardnadze on the upcoming new union:

          “Editor’s Note: The phrases ‘From the Atlantic to the Urals’, ‘From the Atlantic to Vladivostok’ and ‘From Vancouver to Vladivostok’ are interchangeable in the strategists’ lexicon. In the course of his Nobel Peace Prize Lecture, delivered in Oslo in June 1992, Gorbachev said: ‘Our [sic] vision of the European space from the Atlantic to the Urals is not that of a closed system. Since it includes the Soviet Union [sic], which reaches to the shores of the Pacific, it goes beyond nominal geographical boundaries’. Note that Gorbachev, who had been out of office for six months, referred to the Soviet Union, not Russia. In an interview on Moscow Television on 19 November 1991, Eduard Shevardnadze continued speaking as though he was still Soviet Foreign Minister: ‘I think that the idea of a Common European Home, the building of a united Europe, and I would like to underline today, of great Europe, the building of Great Europe, great, united Europe, from the Atlantic to the Urals, from the Atlantic to Vladivostok, including all our territory, most probably a European-Asian space, this project is inevitable. I am sure that we will come to building a united military space as well. To say more precisely: we will build a united Europe, whose security will be based on the principles of collective security. Precisely, collective security’. These statements by key implementers of the strategy reflect the central strategic objective of asserting ‘irreversible’ Russian/Soviet hegemony over Eurasia, thus establishing the primary geographical component of the intended World Government.” — ‘The Perestroika Deception’, by KGB defector Major Anatoliy Golitsyn.

          http://www.spiritoftruth.org/The_Perestroika_Deception.pdf

          and here’s more on the upcoming “Atlantic to Vladivostok” union…

          https://web.archive.org/web/20140210090314/http://www.russkiymir.ru/russkiymir/en/publications/interview/interview0004.html

          and here’s Vladimir Putin in 2012 pushing the new union with Europe…

          “Russia is an inalienable and organic part of Greater Europe and European civilization. Our citizens think of themselves as Europeans. We are by no means indifferent to developments in united Europe.

          That is why Russia proposes moving toward the creation of a common economic and human space from the Atlantic to the Pacific Ocean – a community referred by Russian experts to as “the Union of Europe,” which will strengthen Russia’s potential and position in its economic pivot toward the “new Asia.”‘

          http://valdaiclub.com/politics/39300.html

          When the new “Atlantic to Vladivostok” union materializes, Communist strategists will have achieved two goals, (1) the further isolation of the United States in the world; and (2) the disbanding of NATO.

          • Gerschwin

            Do you do public speaking?

          • “Do you do public speaking?”

            Very soon now. And more!

        • Gerschwin

          Hey… there’s a statue of Napoleon in Boulogne looking across the channel… shhh.. he actually invaded and conquered Britain… you may think you’re speaking English but in fact you’ve been brainwashed and we all really speak French…Mais Oui! Woof! Woof!

          • “Hey… there’s a statue of Napoleon in Boulogne looking across the channel.”

            There’s supposed to be statues of Napoleon in France, since Napoleon is a French hero. Lenin is a hero for the Soviet Union, not Russia! Lenin (1) overthrow the provisional government of Russia; which (2) precipitated the Russian Civil War that killed 9 million Russians; (3) approximately 350,000 Russians were shot by the Cheka without trial; (4) Russian culture/religion was destroyed; and (5) the nation of Russia was incorporated into the new nation of the Soviet Union.

            Your analogy is confused. A proper analogy would be finding statues of Napoleon in Russia after his defeat by Russia!

        • Jim

          I can’t be bothered to read all that drivel. But the statue thing is ridiculous. Not removing a statue does not prove that the old regime lives on.

          • The Red Bladder

            Just you wait – he’ll spot that you’re a Marxist from that. Sharp lad is our Dean.

        • Neil Saunders

          I’m encouraged to hear this, in a way. Perhaps we’ll be allowed to put up statues of Benny Hill, Dick Emery, Robin Askwith and Bernard Manning where they can’t be seen by Ben Elton, Will Self, Jeremy Hardy, Stephen Fry, Sandi Toksvig, Sir Ian McKellen and anyone employed in an administrative or production capacity by the BBC.

          • Jackthesmilingblack

            I’ll second that.

      • Des Demona

        What’s worse is I’ll never get back the time reading it.

    • Aberrant_Apostrophe

      I can clearly see blood trails in both Woolwich photographs, in exactly the same places.

      • “I can clearly see blood trails…”

        I said blood pools, not the three sidewalk-colored streaks pre-planted on the sidewalk.

        • Fergus Pickering

          The sidewalk? Are you an American person. That’s the place where people keep getting abducted by aliens Have you been….

          • AJH1968

            I cannot help but think of the movie deliverance when reading Dean’s prose, do you think he plays the banjo? Perhaps the aliens taught him to play after a great deal of anal probing.

          • Fergus Pickering

            Well said. He’s a half-wit. My cats have more intelligence, even the stupid one.

    • Fergus Pickering

      What news do you pay attention to and where does it come from. Me, I never believe anything unless it’s in the Daly Mail.

  • Wow, juding from the two replies below, readers of The Spectator are pretty dense! In fact, such stupidity is impossible. They must be Marxist operatives doing a pitiful job at damage control.

    • AtMyDeskToday

      I guess we just don’t have the keen insight, that you so clearly enjoy, into the conspiracies that are everywhere around us. Careful playing with that M16, it may be loaded.

      • “I guess we just don’t have the keen insight, that you so clearly enjoy, into the conspiracies that are everywhere around us.”

        No need for keen insight, Comrade. Eyesight is all you need when I post proofs. If you’re not a Marxist, my apologies, but you need a major upgrading of cognitive functions. My posts are so easy to comprehend, since I also include the pictures out of the USSR itself!

    • pdhan

      Quite, when was a Marxist not pitiful? Keep up the good work!

      • “Keep up the good work!”

        Thanks! I surly will.

  • By the way ladies and gentlemen, I scored a huge victory last week. The Kremlin ordered The Moscow Times to suspend its Disqus account thanks to me! Here’s The Moscow Times’ bereft announcement to its readers…

    Dear reader,

    Due to the increasing number of users engaging in personal attacks, spam, trolling and abusive comments, we are no longer able to host our forum as a site for constructive and intelligent debate.

    It is with regret, therefore, that we have found ourselves forced to suspend the commenting function on our articles.

    The Moscow Times remains committed to the principle of public debate and hopes to welcome you to a new, constructive forum in the future.

    Regards,

    The Moscow Times

    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/nato-reports-unusual-level-of-russian-activity-over-european-airspace/510315.html

    This proves that Communist control of Russia is weak, especially with Russian troops dying by the dozens everyday in the Ukraine…

    http://www.kyivpost.com/multimedia/video-2/ukraine-today-activists-say-4000-russian-troops-killed-in-russias-war-against-ukraine-video-367665.html

    • The Red Bladder

      Yes, I understand your name is mentioned in hushed tones in the Kremlin. You have frightened the whole regime from top to bottom so be sure to take care of yourself in your quest for truth, justice and enlightenment.

    • pdhan

      God bless America.

      • The Red Bladder

        And all who sail in her?

      • Jackthesmilingblack

        Just don’t put yourself within US jurisdiction.

    • Damaris Tighe

      So the Russians were thoroughly fed up with you. So are we. Thank you for totally derailing & destroying this comments page.

      • AJH1968

        He always does this with he’s clumsy ugly prose (no doubt a reflection of himself) pathetic really, mentioned him to a Russian friend of mine and he almost collapsed with mirth.

      • “So the Russians were thoroughly fed up with you. So are we.”

        Who said Russians? Marxists control the Kremlin, as my posts on this thread have proved. To suspend all commenting proves (1) The Moscow Times is a Marxist rag controlled by the Kremlin; and (2) that the Kremlin’s panicked behavior sheds light onto the weakness of Communist control within Russia.

        One more time…

        http://www.redstar.ru/

        “Krasnaya Zvezda” is Russian for “Red Star”, the official newspaper of Soviet and later Russian Ministry of Defense. The paper’s official designation is, “Central Organ of the Russian Ministry of Defense.” Note the four Soviet emblems next to the still existing Soviet era caption titled “Red Star”(!), one of the Soviet emblems including the image of Lenin!

  • AverageGuyInTheStreet

    Coming from Aylesbury, Lewthwaite was an English girl growing up, as many do these days, in a heavily Muslim-colonised part of Britain. High Wycombe, Luton, Dunstable… a large area of South Bedfordshire and South Bucks is becoming increasingly Islamic as each year goes by. Her conversion to Islam (and shacking up with a mass-murdering piece of filth) is directly attributable to her geographical location in what was our country. How can we ensure these events never happen again? Who is to be held accountable?

    • “Her conversion to Islam (and shacking up with a mass-murdering piece of filth) is directly attributable to her geographical location in what was our country. How can we ensure these events never happen again? Who is to be held accountable?”

      Ladies & gentlemen, say hello to an MI5 officer hard at work for Moscow & Allies.

      • AverageGuyInTheStreet

        For a minute there I thought I’d accidental posted in the Comment Is Free section on the Guardian site. Yep, everyone knows about the emergency services exercise that was going on that day, which proves nothing. Not sure how my point would be the MI5 point of view either. More to the point why am I wasting precious seconds of my life writing a reply?

        • “Yep, everyone knows about the emergency services exercise that was going on that day, which proves nothing.”

          It’s called evidence for an inside job, which the Met was supposed to investigate.

          “More to the point why am I wasting precious seconds of my life writing a reply?”

          Because that’s your job.

          • AverageGuyInTheStreet

            I hope this doesn’t come across as nasty but the only conclusion I can draw is that the point your original post is to try to obfuscate mine by being completely barking.

          • John Croston

            Upminster, not Barking. Further down the line than Barking.

          • jjjj

            How do we know that you are not some agent of a foreign power planning mayhem?

          • “How do we know that you are not some agent of a foreign power planning mayhem?”

            Use the grey matter between your ears. What have I said on this thread that is factually false? Do the shills that respond to my comments fault anything I’ve said, or do they hide from such critiques?

          • DCW

            It tells me that you’re an imbecile who will believe any old rubbish dressed up as a conspiracy.

          • “It tells me that you’re an imbecile who will believe any old rubbish dressed up as a conspiracy.”

            Marxist damage control operatives still can’t put together an intelligible retort.

          • RWJ

            Russians fought fanatical Muslims in the 80s in Afghanistan…..we armed Fanatical Muslims in the 80s to kill Russians……..these Muslims went on to kill our kids. We armed our enemies….the Russians killed our enemies.

          • “Russians fought fanatical Muslims in the 80s in Afghanistan…”

            I’ll try this one more time…what does the following prove to you…

            Take a look at what the Russian government ordered the Russian Ministry of Defense to keep on the masthead of its official newspaper…see if you notice something odd…

            http://www.redstar.ru/

            “Krasnaya Zvezda” is Russian for “Red Star”, the official newspaper of Soviet and later Russian Ministry of Defense. The paper’s official designation is, “Central Organ of the Russian Ministry of Defense.” Note the four Soviet emblems next to the still existing Soviet era caption titled “Red Star”(!), one of the Soviet emblems including the image of Lenin.

          • Pootles

            But one would expect that, given that the ‘Great Patriotic War’ was such an appalling event in which millions of Russians (and others from the USSR) died (many killed by their own side) defending Russia from the threat of extinction. Why would the current Russian army wish to ignore that history, any more than it ignores its post Peter the Great history? The Russian armed forces use a whole mix of symbols, e.g., the flag of St Andrew on its ships, from its long, bloody, past.

          • “Why would the current Russian army wish to ignore that history, any more than it ignores its post Peter the Great history?”

            Because Peter the Great represented Russia, not the USSR, which murdered, tortured, raped, imprisoned millions; destroyed Russian culture/Russian Orthodox Church.

            Not to mention, official RUSSIAN government agencies can no longer use SOVIET emblems because the Soviet nation longer exists.

          • Pootles

            Stop shouting. For someone who is pushing a very odd version of contemporary history, you do far too much shouting. As for your analogy with the Federal Republic and Nazi Germany, there is, of course, one very great difference, and that is that the Nazis lost, and the Third Reich was completely destroyed, whereas the Soviet Union won, and its foul deeds were thereby justified in the eyes of many.

          • “As for your analogy with the Federal Republic and Nazi Germany, there is, of course, one very great difference, and that is that the Nazis lost..”

            No kidding. Now, once again, imagine the Allies refusing to tear down Nazi statues, just as the “liberated” Soviets refused to tear down statues of Lenin and other Soviet “heroes”!

          • Pootles

            You’re being obtuse. Winning the Second World War/The Great Patriotic War did an extraordinarily good job of finally legitimising the Soviet Union in the eyes of many Russians, even putting on one side the effects of decades of communist education, propaganda, welfare benefits and terror. So, the process of transforming what was Soviet Russia into post-Soviet Russia means that abandoning all the symbols of the immediate past was just not on the cards. There are still plenty of Russians (especially among the older generation) who think that Stalin, Lenin, and the Bolsheviks, were a good thing, so why marginalise them further? The Russians have a great liking for ‘strong’ leaders, hence Putin’s popularity. Putin, in fact, is different in that, he has been repeatedly elected, and that he is not a mass murderer or slave boss, unlike Peter the Great, Catherine the Great, Lenin, Stalin, or any of the others from Russia’s scary past.

          • “There are still plenty of Russians (especially among the older generation) who think that Stalin, Lenin, and the Bolsheviks, were a good thing…”

            Only Marxists accept that proposition, and now we know what you are–a Marxist operative advancing ludicrous damage control!

          • Pootles

            Oh, good lord. No, I am not a ‘Marxist operative’. I am absolutely, and completely anti-Marxist. And, yes, I do know what a bunch of mass murderers, and, indeed, genocidal b*stards the Bolsheviks were. However, there are people in Russia who think they were a good thing – whether you like it or not. There were, after all, 19 million members of the CPSU in 1987 – a few of them were probably pretty enthusiastic. You are going to get nowhere at all if you dismiss every single person who doesn’t agree with you as being ‘a Marxist operative’.

          • Pootles

            Yes, they are called Communists. Indeed As they will freely admit.
            Now, having established to your own satisfaction that the Reds are still in control, are pulling the strings of practically everyone, and are poised to triumph, what are you going to do about it?

          • “Now, having established to your own satisfaction that the Reds are still in control, are pulling the strings of practically everyone, and are poised to triumph, what are you going to do about it?”

            I’m informing people of the co-option, with the ultimate objective of forming new political parties where candidates are vetted. Then comes the long process of rollback.

          • Pootles

            You’re not doing very well, at least not on the Spectator site. You need to stop being needlessly offensive and to stop dismissing all opposing arguments as part of the Red conspiracy.

          • “You need to stop being needlessly offensive and to stop dismissing all opposing arguments as part of the Red conspiracy.”

            There are no opposition arguments! Have you read the non-reply replies? The non-reply replies are invective replies from Marxist shills.

          • Pootles

            ‘Marxist operatives’ ? I’m not, and I very much doubt the other regulars here are either. Perhaps you might have more success if you bought an AK and had a pop at Putin or someone else who is part of the whole set up …?

          • “Perhaps you might have more success if you bought an AK and had a pop at Putin or someone else who is part of the whole set up …?”

            Very subtle, MI5 officer provocateur.

          • Pootles

            Are you really serious about all this? Because if you are, you should take care of your own health.

          • “Are you really serious about all this?”

            You should know, MI5.

          • Nanko Costers

            Well, you could be some sort of operative paid to post the massive amounts of copypasta / disinformation you continually post, in order to discredit genuine alternative thinkers.

            You may now call me a Marxist tool; I know you enjoy that.

          • AverageGuyInTheStreet

            I am, I do this in my coffee break in between dissecting aliens and torturing entirely innocent British Muslims we renditionerised in Syria.

        • RWJ

          So why don’t you just p–s off then.

      • mmac1968

        Where did you read that twaddle, Trotsky weekly.

      • RWJ

        Word for word Daily Star trash.

      • Jackthesmilingblack

        Seriously, what are the odds of that being a coincidence? Literally millions to one against.

        • “Seriously, what are the odds of that being a coincidence? Literally millions to one against.”

          Precisely, and because the Met failed to open an investigation into the real likelihood of an inside operation, we have proof of another Met cover up.

          • Nanko Costers

            Well obviously Marxists did it.

    • greggf

      “…..in what was our country. How can we ensure these events never happen again?”

      Difficult Average.
      It’s more a matter of how can the events be reversed although the said colonisation is not going away any time soon.
      Theoretically we should do what our colonies did and protest, demand withdrawal, appeal to the UN etc, etc.
      However, a more effective solution would be to do what the 3rd Reich did in Poland and other Eastern European countries……….

      • Shorne

        I have just flagged you for advocating genocide.

        • greggf

          Really?
          According to Shirer’s tome on the 3rd Reich it was mostly “encouraged” mass migration Shorne…….!

          • Shorne

            The SS officer Adolf Eichmann established the Reich Central Office for Jewish Emigration in Vienna, at the Rothchild’s palace, whereby Jews, alarmed by the terror, found their emigration out of the country much facilitated by Eichmann’s diligent bureaucrats. This was one of Eichmann’s contributions to Jewish annihilation: an assembly line process through which the forsaken Jew passed in a day’s time, relinquishing one document (and piece of property) at every step of the way until the end when he and his loved ones had the prized possession: a visa, the ticket of life. Eichmann also employed the services of the local Jewish leadership to facilitate the emigration, as he would later to facilitate the destruction. Eichmann later became the SS officer in charge of organizing the “evacuation” of Jews by trains to the death camps in Poland.
            Fancy yourself running something like this do you?

          • greggf

            “Fancy yourself running something like this do you?”

            For Jews Shorne? Hardly.
            The Soviets also evacuated millions of troublesome ethnic and religious nationalities up until the demise of the USSR, and so did Serbia, recently. Tony Blair’s policy of open-door mass immigration, which continues, could fit into the same category as, a sort of, benign version.
            Who knows if, or when, such policies might recur, be reversed and become necessary?

          • Shorne

            Ah- so you do’t want to be Eichman you want to be Stalin, I see.

          • greggf

            No not really Shorne.
            However I think I could have done a better job than Tony Blair did with his benign mass evacuation INTO the UK, and avoided the quandary which AverageGuy highlights and which begs for a definitive solution.

          • Steve Sailor

            Please don’t cry six million tears…

    • Jackthesmilingblack

      Still buying the Authorised version of 7/7? The Muslim suicide bombers were assisted and supported at every turn by Brit security services to make their incompetent attacks far more deadly. The bombs were underneath the train carriages. Smell up and wake the coffee. You’re being played, Britisher pals.

      • mmac1968

        Jack, I suppose you spend your time in supermarkets telling people lemons are oranges and bananas are light bulbs. One born every minute. No doubt the Christians fleeing the Arab states are confused also.

        • Jackthesmilingblack

          Why mmmmacc, whatever do you mean?

      • Ukip tottie

        amazing how 1.6 billion muslims can be tricked into dozens of wars and armed conflicts in over 2 dozen countries
        they must be particularly stupid and easy to manipulate, if they have no problem slaughtering each other, wherever they are, even amongst themselves, just because they are told to

      • Cymrugel

        Survivors who were actually on the train deny this is so. I think I trust their judgement over yours.

        • Jackthesmilingblack

          Check the testimony of Bruce Lait.
          Bruce Lait, Cambridge Evening News.
          Eye-witness reports tell of the explosions on the underground being on the rail-tracks : effectively ruling out any external party involvement. “The policeman said ‘mind that hole, that’s where the bomb was’. THE METAL WAS PUSHED UPWARDS as if the bomb was underneath the train. They seem to think the bomb was left in a bag, but I don’t remember anybody being where the bomb was, or any bag”. Bruce Lait, Cambridge Evening News .

          “I knew it was a bomb … A second later and the explosion would have punched a hole in our carriage … our driver .. opened the outer door and LOOKED AT THE TRACK AHEAD. There were huge pieces of metal, which had been ripped out of their rivets, lying about.”

          “ … there was a woman .. who was on her back, trapped in the metal WHICH HAD TWISTED UP THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE CARRIAGE. The roof was still on but the lining of the carriage had been blown off … there was a big hole in the middle of the floor.” POLICE WOMAN Lizzie Kenworthy.
          Needs a little editing. Smell up and wake the coffee, gullible Muppets.

          • “Needs a little editing. Smell up and wake the coffee, gullible Muppets.”

            Don’t you get it yet? The Spectator promotes Marxist propaganda, such as the “War on Terror” fiasco…

            The so-called “War on Terror” is a USSR & Allies-tasked operation being carried out by the co-opted governments of the West, the purpose being to (1) destroy the prominence of the West in the eyes of the world, where the West is seen (i) invading nations without cause; (ii) causing chaos around the globe; and (iii) killing over one-million civilians and boasting of torture; (2) close off non-Russian supplies of oil for export, thereby increasing the price of oil, the higher price allowing oil exporting Russia to maintain economic stability while she modernizes and increases her military forces; (3) destroy the United States Armed Forces via the never-ending “War on Terror”; the ultimate purpose of the aforementioned to (4) bring about the demise of the United States in the world, opening up a political void to be filled by a new pan-national entity composed of Europe and Russia (replacing the European Union), a union “From the Atlantic to Vladivostok”; which will (5) see the end of NATO.

          • Cymrugel

            I do not have the space or time to refute your conspiracy theories.
            There is plenty of evidence with which to do so however, but I sense that you would be indifferent to any presented to you.
            I am curious why you are so wedded to them though.
            We are currently being attacked by crazed muslim zealots who regard any person in the UK, or indeed the world, who does not subscribe to their beliefs as a legitimate target and who are quite open about saying so – and we have the taped statements of the attackers.
            Yet you ignore all this and would rather believe that the UK government is full of cold blooded killers who will happily kill 50 odd people and maim hundreds more in some byzantine conspiracy.
            You are willing to believe that democratically elected politicians will kill without mercy, yet demented religious crackpots who want to erase every other system of belief from the face of the earth and who actually openly admit their actions are in fact blameless.
            Why?

      • Harry Pond

        utter bollocks.

        • Jackthesmilingblack

          Sad the number of gullible Muppets that instinctively side with and support Authority. Clowns like you would literally march into the camps before you realised everything wasn’t entirely kosher.

          • Harry Pond

            I am not a ‘clown’, maybe a muppet though.

          • Jackthesmilingblack

            You’re angry. You must be wrong.

          • Harry Pond

            gobshite chippy little arsehole who sits on his fat ass.

          • Jackthesmilingblack

            A vote for Harry is a vote for ignorance and vulgarity. Of course you’re not voting for Harry Pond life, you’re voting against me. But that hypocritical Brits for you.

    • ilPugliese

      Radicalising the stupid and mentally weak applies to areas other than the jihadists. People have been programmed to think that if they want something, they should just take it, and if anyone gets in their way they are entitled to use violence. It’s the same process. Show them an apparently working solution to their inadequacies, and they will latch onto it. Getting them unlatched is far harder, as they have to give up their sort of working method and find a substitute that is more effective.

    • Mr_Ominous

      “How can we ensure these events never happen again?”

      The events will keep happening as the Muslim birth rate is very high. Islam will only grow in power in England. The only solutions are blunt and will not be enacted by a “tolerant” (i.e. obedient) native population. The fact is it’s game over for this country.

      “Who is to be held accountable?”

      The native population which has largely consisted of insular, stupid, lazy people that decided to out source responsibility for their lives to politicians expecting them to take care of them.

    • Shorne

      Aylesbury 92.3% White, South Asian, Black, Mixed, Other 7.7%
      Christian/No religion 80.5%, Muslim 10%
      By the way
      UK as a whole White 87.1, Asian 6.6%
      (2013 figures)Christian/No religion 92.3% Muslim 4.4%

      Not that your type bothers with mere facts,

  • Polly Radial

    I went to Aylesbury once. It looked a lot like Nairobi.

    • anneallan

      But the ducks are still white.

  • UnionJihack

    I asked this before to no avail.
    Who needs an European Arrest Warrant when we’ve got Interpol?

    • post_x_it

      They are not comparable at all. Interpol is just a platform where national police forces cooperate and share information. Interpol can issue a “red notice” to its member states asking them to arrest a particular person. However, it cannot order any country to carry out an arrest, and it certainly has no power at all when it comes to extradition. This is entirely governed by extradition agreements that may or may not be in place between countries and has nothing to do with Interpol. Participation in Interpol does not entail any loss of sovereignty for any country’s police or judicial system.
      The EAW means that one EU country can order any other EU country to arrest and extradite someone, no questions asked. Spot the difference?

  • Sean L

    *It scares us that a girl-next-door can be drawn into such a nefarious world*

    How on earth shouldn’t it? Her apparent ordinariness is precisely what makes it scary. I fail to see your point here. What do you expect? Indifference?

  • CEMB_forum

    Its undoubtedly true that tabloids have hyped up Lewthwaite’s importance as a player in the upper ranks of jihadis. But the attention paid to her is grounded in proper interest in how an ‘ordinary’ English girl from a small home counties town becomes attracted to a hateful, bigoted, extremist, violent ideology that is anathema to every value of our society, and how her story illustrates how Islamist / Jihadi ideology attacks our values and safety. In order to oppose Islamism / Jihadism we have to understand it. Paying attention to how it projects itself in Britain, the narratives of hate it proposes, how it extends its bigotry and fascist worldview is a legitimate concern, especially in the realm of converts to it.

    • Jackthesmilingblack

      Perhaps because the West is so ugly.

      • Fergus Pickering

        Well, my bit isn’t ugly. I like it just the way it is, thank you very much.

  • Jackthesmilingblack

    Sounds like the plot for a John leCarre novel.

    • Ukip tottie

      now i understand your intellectual inferiority, if that’s your preferred nighttime literature

      • Jackthesmilingblack

        You could do worst. A lot worse.

  • Jackthesmilingblack

    The train the 7/7 bombers supposedly caught from Luton was cancelled. And the next train available wouldn’t have got them to London on time. Oh dear, the best laid plans … But no worries, the sycophantic MSM made it all go away. You can fool all the people …

    • Why do you think all the major political parties of the West are on the imbecilic “War on Terror” bandwagon, with the so-called liberal parties outdoing the conservative parties in destroying the West’s civil liberties?

      The “War on Terror” is a USSR & Allies-tasked operation being carried out by the co-opted governments of the West, the purpose being to (1) destroy the prominence of the West in the eyes of the world, where the West is seen (i) invading nations without cause; (ii) causing chaos around the globe; and (iii) killing over one-million civilians and boasting of torture; (2) close off non-Russian supplies of oil for export, thereby increasing the price of oil, the higher price allowing oil exporting Russia to maintain economic stability while she modernizes and increases her military forces; (3) destroy the United States Armed Forces via the never-ending “War on Terror”; the ultimate purpose of the aforementioned to (4) bring about the demise of the United States in the world, opening up a political void to be filled by a new pan-national entity composed of Europe and Russia (replacing the European Union), a union “From the Atlantic to Vladivostok”; which will (5) see the end of NATO.

      By the way, how about the missing pools of blood on the sidewalk at the Woolwich, London false flag operation in May 2013! Then after the armed police arrive, the pools of blood show up on the sidewalk! Talk about incompetence.

      • Harry Pond

        Yourself and Jack should book into a room, preferably in a residential care home for the unstable of mind.

        • “Yourself and Jack should book into a room, preferably in a residential care home for the unstable of mind.”

          It’s not the mind, it’s the unstable eyes that’s causing me problems. Can you tell me the title of the following newspaper, and the identity of the four emblems next to the masthead? And who’s picture is in one of those emblems?

          http://www.redstar.ru/

          My bad eyesight keeps telling me the newspaper is called “Krasnaya Zvezda”, which is Russian for “Red Star”, the official newspaper of the Soviet Ministry of Defense. To my eyes it looks as though the same four Soviet emblems are next to the Soviet era caption titled “Red Star”(!), with one of the Soviet emblems sporting an image of Lenin! That can’t be of course, so what do you see? Thanks!

          Can you also tell me what you see here…

          http://www.saint-petersburg.com/monuments/ploshchad-lenina/

          It looks like a statue of Lenin outside the Railway Station in Saint Petersburg, but it can’t be. The article says that nearly every city, town and village has statues to Lenin, but I must be mis-reading that. What do you read?

        • Jackthesmilingblack

          You and Jack … Something of a generalisation, but nutters dp tend to have poor writing skills and resort to vulgar verbal abuse at the drop of a hat.
          So how ya doing, Harry?

  • GraveDave

    Shame she just didn’t apply to go on Big Brother. She could have done far more damage to the west that way.

  • Peter Stroud

    There is only one way to rid this site of troll Dean Jackson – ignore him!

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  • WFB56

    An excellent piece and a good illustration of how security resources are being misdirected.

  • cartimandua

    Converts are dangerous and Muslim women have been used as bombers all over the world because they are considered so expendable.

  • Fergus Pickering

    Curious word ‘Brainwashed’ It was coined, I think, to describe a partcular method of communist interrogation. Now ii is used whenever some murderous bastard has become a follower of jihad. It wasn’t his fault. He was brainwashed. No he wasn’t. He just found a peg on which to hang his murderous desires. He deserves to die and we rightly rejoice when he does. Or when she does. These people are not important, but they are nasty. We must hope they kill each other before they start on us.

    • Damaris Tighe

      A similar word, ‘radicalised’: totally passive as if the ‘radicalised’ person has had no active role to play in their choice of ideology. Bit like catching ebola.

      • Fergus Pickering

        Fell pregnant is another. It just happened, Doctor.Not to be believed unless you are the BVM.

  • adrian smith

    Perhaps we should be concentrating less on the psychology of Islamic radical young men and more on the psychology of young white girls to find what attracts them to these alien parasites who live in one of the most liberal, citizen friendly countries in the world and still hate it.

  • susan

    what do her rubbish parents think !

  • RWJ

    This is all hype…..like ISIS. Western conceived garbage to demonise an enemy of the western political right. This is a new version of the crusades. Yes….they are nutters just like we have nutter’s in our midst……who mostly buy The STAR….The SUN….and watch SKY NEWS. A right wing press that controls these illiterate oafs who have a vote. This story and ISIS etc is all about fossil fuel control of the earth. The Ukraine problem is just a facet of this oil wealth control. We removed the enemies of Isis by removing Gaddafi and Saddam. Assad should be retained but our right wing wont allow an enemy of their ISIS bogeymen.

  • “She comes from a normal market town in the south of England and was pulled, as so many youngsters are, into the clutches of Islam’s radical fringes by a desire for purpose and excitement.”

    LOL! This is closer to the real story of Samantha Lewthwaite…

    http://www.maxresistance.com/white-widow-the-samantha-lewthwaite-conspiracy-hi-res/

    • The Red Bladder

      I have long been of the belief that the prize draw mechanism at the Premium Bond office is being manipulated by the Kremlin. If you have any evidence of that Dean I should be grateful, it’s way past time that those scallywags were skewered.

      • “I have long been of the belief that the prize draw mechanism at the Premium Bond office is being manipulated by the Kremlin.”

        After new political parties in the West are created (where candidates are actually vetted for loyalty to the West*), we’ll certainly look into it.
        ———————
        *No wonder Communists found it so easy to infiltrate the political parties of the West–there’s no robust vetting process. Anyone can hold the fate of the West in their hands. When one thinks about it, it’s surreal that no one though about it before me!

        • The Red Bladder

          Well yes, there’s always that – strange that you should have been born in Warwickshire, so was Shakespeare! He was free of the taint of Bolshevism wasn’t he?

          • “He was free of the taint of Bolshevism wasn’t he?”

            I think we can safely say Shakespeare was loyal to the Realm? Then again, maybe he was a subversive Republican! I simply don’t know, nor can I competently speculate.

          • The Red Bladder

            Well good for you. If anyone can spot a commie at 500 yards, in or out of his trousers, it’s you!

          • “If anyone can spot a commie at 500 yards, in or out of his trousers, it’s you!”

            Preferably in!

  • Mitzi

    Don’t lets start making the slightest excuses for this evil woman, she embraced the violence that is being inflicted and hopefully she is captured soon

    • post_x_it

      The article is not making any excuses. The question it raises is whether she is quite as powerful and important as the media portrays her.

      • “The article is not making any excuses. The question it raises is whether she is quite as powerful and important as the media portrays her.”

        The article is a not too clever MI5 psy-op piece re-casting Samantha Lewthwaite to a lightweight from the heavyweight status she was assigned, when in fact she’s an MI5 operative…

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2CKjk-dAvg

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  • Jackthesmilingblack

    What do 9/11, 7/7. Bali … have in common beside being inside jobs? Mutual blackmail. “You rat us our and we’ll rat you out.” Standard operating procedure as employed by the Mafia.

    • Guest

      ^ imbecile

      • Jackthesmilingblack

        Useful idiot.

        • Guest

          not even capable of making up your own insults, amoeba brain?

    • Guest

      what do conspiracy theorists, mouth foaming mussies and useful idiots of the left have in common?

      They have the collective IQ of an amoeba.

  • Laguna Beach Fogey

    Like all White women who reject their own people and shack up with blacks, she’s clearly hostile and mentally ill.

    Her mudsharking behaviour should have been the first clue.

    • StupidWhiningMen

      Women choosing African psychopaths over British men. Time to take the hint?

      • Laguna Beach Fogey

        Indeed. These misfits are clearly taking themselves out of the human gene pool. Good riddance.

      • Jairzinho

        Yes. Let’s give these women a wide berth! They’re nuts!

  • neptune_gold

    In any case she would be better off dead than alive.

  • ruffa ruff

    7/7 inside job. The Sam Loo BS is pure propaganda rubbish for Daily Mail readers to lap up. Enjoy your enslavement mahhhh!

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