Leading article

How to fight Ukip

1 November 2014

9:00 AM

1 November 2014

9:00 AM

In the 2005 general election this magazine supported the Conservatives, with one exception — we urged voters in Medway not to vote for a deeply unimpressive Tory candidate by the name of Mark Reckless. Our then political editor, Peter Oborne, went so far as to write a pamphlet in support of the Labour rival, Bob Marshall Andrews, who had a commendable record of sticking it to Tony Blair. Reckless, by contrast, had nothing to commend him. He lost by just 213 votes — suggesting that The Spectator’s intervention had been decisive.

But nothing, it seems, will prevent Reckless from being elected as Ukip’s second MP in two weeks’ time. The Ukip momentum in Rochester & Strood now looks unstoppable. The European Union is giving Ukip plenty of help, presenting Britain with a £1.7 billion bill in punishment for having the fastest-growing economy in the continent. In protesting so loudly against this, David Cameron makes Nigel Farage’s point very clearly: Britain is trapped in an unfair system.

It is strange to think that only a few weeks ago, the Tories were confident about keeping hold of Rochester & Strood. They had been blindsided by Douglas Carswell’s defection to Ukip, and unable to organise themselves in time to hold Clacton; in any case, his constituency was ideal territory for Ukip. Rochester, they thought, was different. Mark Reckless’s is a Tory safe seat, and he has none of Carswell’s eloquence or popularity. Most Conservatives were reluctant to campaign too hard against Carswell, but many were keen to crush Reckless — and, hopefully, mark the beginning of the end of Nigel Farage.

But to the great surprise of No. 10, it turns out that voters in Rochester are not very interested in joining the Tory fightback. Even Cabinet members are returning from Rochester with the sense that the battle is already lost. So the talk has turned to damage limitation: how to ensure that the Prime Minister is not too closely associated with failure, given that he already made five visits to the constituency? How to pretend, the day after the election, that losing two by-elections to Ukip doesn’t really matter?


There is another question that the Tory high command should be asking itself: how did it come to this? And why, six months away from a general election, are they still unable to compute or combat the potency of the Ukip threat?

Some time ago, Cameron dismissed Nigel Farage’s supporters as ‘fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists’ — a slur he later retracted. But the overall idea persisted within the inner circles of government that Ukip’s voters were not the type that a modern Conservative party should be interested in. As Ukip’s popularity grew, so did this line of argument: who really wants to champion decaying seaside resorts like Clacton?

Only last month, a senior Tory strategist was listing the characteristics of Ukip voters: older people, who left school aged 15, who apparently agree with the statement ‘I hardly recognise the country I’m living in any more.’ The Conservatives should listen to such voters, he said, even respect them. But their demands should not be heeded. They represent the past; the modern Tories should be interested in the future.

The great irony is that the Tory modern-isers have failed to understand modern Britain. Globalisation does indeed produce winners and losers, but both are modern phenomena. It is true that Ukip is supported by people who believe the system is not working out for them, but such people are not the effluent of the 20th century or stuck in the past. They have legitimate concerns. They should be seen as the most important voters in the 21st, the ones most in need of conservative solutions. A One Nation Conservative party should be for everyone, not just those with fashionable opinions.

So far, everything Cameron has done to attack Ukip seems to have made it stronger. His welcome pledge to hold an in-or-out referendum on EU membership did nothing to drain Ukip support. His promise to announce (before Christmas) a way to limit the number of EU migrants to Britain was seen as just another sign of panic — and rightly so. He has no means of fulfilling this promise. His angry press conference last -Friday, when he declared that he won’t pay the EU bill, will simply make him look foolish when he does pay.

The way to fight Ukip is not to try to copy its policies or imitate its anger. Voters can see through that charade. David Cameron must respond by exuding a sense of purpose and direction. He should start by reminding people of how much the party has to offer Ukip voters. If the elderly in Clacton are concerned about the future, they should be reassured by the (very expensive) triple lock which George Osborne has promised to place on the value of pensions. The old and sick should know that the Tories have made a (very expensive) pledge not to cut the NHS budget. And those concerned about Europe have only one logical choice at the next election: to vote Tory and secure a referendum.

So the Tories already have the policies — but these proposals need to be sold properly, by a party that is led properly. Even now, it’s not too late for that.

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  • cargill55

    What right ideas do the Tories have?
    Get some growth out of debt, mass immigration, erosion of savings, artificially low rates and the theft of £200 billion from savers and pensioners to give to borrowers?
    Fail to deal with mass immigration by staying in the EU where over 70% of new immigrants now come from?
    Hand over £60 billion a year to international allcomers through overseas aid, EU budget contributions and mass lmmigration?
    Impose green energy zealotry on us , costing us £18 billion a year.
    Get involved in miscellaneous vanity conflicts like LIbya and Syria while degrading the military?
    Fail to protect or police our borders so that hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants and failed asylum seekers are allowed to stay?
    Fail to reform a bloated, inefficient, costly state bureaucracy?
    Accept a broken political system , Fptp, no MP recall, no local primaries, anti democratic donations system, corrupt postal voting system and sovereignty handed over to the EU through not allowing a Lisbon referendum?
    Imposing tens of billions a year higher business costs and consumer prices through EU membership?
    Deceiving Britain that EU renegotiation is feasible and that a promised referendum is therefore a deceit?
    Bankrupting our state finances?
    Doing nothing about multiculturalism and political correctness and their vile consequences across Britain?

    The Tories have no ideas, they’re continuing the catastrophe of Labour 1997 to 2010 and making it worse.
    Only UKIP has the right ideas to provide Britain with a solution to liblabcon chaos.
    UKIP smaller, democratic, sovereign government putting the British people first.

    • global city

      but….why have you got a problem with the tories?

      (sarc)

    • Pacificweather

      Migration Watch’s publication of the latest immigration figures shows, contrary to your statement, that the majority of immigrants are still non EU. If the government are not able to stop non EU migrants the they will not be able to stop EU migrants even if Britain leaves the EU.

  • cargill55

    ‘ If the elderly in Clacton are concerned about the future, they should be reassured by the (very expensive) triple lock which George Osborne has promised to place on the value of pensions. The old and sick should know that the Tories have made a (very expensive) pledge not to cut the NHS budget. And those concerned about Europe have only one logical choice at the next election: to vote Tory and secure a referendum.’

    The thing is triple lock in state pensions is irrelevant alongside the decimation of saver and pensioner income by artificially low rates and QE, the NHS isn’t providing the service it should because it’s inefficient and dealing with mass immigration, living standards are going down the pan because of soaring essentials inflation and falling wages for millions, Cameron deceived us about Lisbon, he’s lied about renegotiation, he’s a Europhile zealot so he’s not trusted to give us an honest referendum.
    The reason why UKIP support is building is simple.
    Cameron is not trusted.
    Cameron has failed.
    Cameron has the wrong policies, he’s part of the left wing consensus problem.

    • LabLibCon_decadesofdestruction

      The Tory party have still not introduced the Dilnot recommendations & thousands of elderly people are having to sell their family homes in order to fund their care costs – many of these people would have been Tory voters previously but this government is stealing their families inheritances after promising to raise inheritance taxes & doing no such thing!

      • Widggget

        Agreed, but that’s not why people like me have abandoned the Conservatives.

        Douglas Carswell put his finger perfectly on it when he said that DC couldn’t be trusted – and actually neither can most of the cabinet, who are typical slippery politicians. I think people are fed up of being lied to (& their vote taken for granted.)

        The opening paragraph is also a gross insult to Mark Reckless, who is a principled and brave man, doing the honourable thing in submitting to the R&S voters. I can’t see many calculating MPs risking all for principle.

        I have a lot of respect for Fraser Nelson, but when will the MSM wake up and see that the more they throw mud at UKIP, the more ordinary voters don’t buy it?

        More strength to UKIP.!

        .

        • GraveDave

          I have a lot of respect for Fraser Nelson,

          Why?

          • Widggget

            GraveDave, because he is generally a sound and even-handed, sensible journo.

            So he’s said one dumb thing here.

            We must be honest & give credit where it’s due. Remember Douglas Carswell’s election speech, where he spoke of humility & generosity.

            We do UKIP no favours if we come over as a baying mob, who are no better than the rest of tribal politics.

            We can & should rise above it, and Britain can be great again!

            Be wise as well as vote UKIP!

      • English Aborigine

        And they ring fence billions in foreign aid

        And eu tax demands

    • Aberrant_Apostrophe

      It’s a pity he didn’t promise a triple lock on private pensions, undoing the destructive attacks on pension funds started by one of his Tory predecessors and gleefully endorsed by Bruin. Then he might have not needed to find so much money to shell out on State pensioners.

      • Mary Ann

        You are not going to get old then?

        • Aberrant_Apostrophe

          You miss the the point I made, which was that people can be more self-sufficient if the State let them. Then those who are less able, for whatever reason, can be better supported by the State.

          As for getting old, I have a life limiting disease so I won’t get much older. On the plus side it means I can be more objective in discussions about retirement issues.

    • M P Jones

      Cameron, like the leaders of the other Ingsoc Troika parties, is a social democrat fully subscribed to the idea of economical redistribution of wealth by a thieving and better-knowing large state. He is not a Conservative by any stretch of the imagination.

      The only non-socialist party is UKIP.

    • Mary Ann

      Left wing, you’ve got to be joking, Britain is the most right wing country in the EU and it is steadily getting worse, God help the poor Cameron and ukip won’t.

  • miranda

    “He should start by reminding people of how much the party has to offer Ukip voters”

    He has, that’s why they’re voting UKIP

    • Nele Schindler

      Brilliant!

    • AlexanderMacedonia

      We’re*

    • kandanada

      The only offer David Cameron could put would be that of proving to everyone that he was not a drone/clone/puppet of the political elite/EUSSR who is kept in power by lawyers, advertising executives and business consultants.

      Otherwise, it’s Ukip for me.

      • Tiberii_filius

        Precisely.
        So when journalists keep wittering on about the Tories “making the case”, they simply show they do not understand the nature of your average ukipper.
        The Tories in coalition have done lots of good things (economy, welfare, education) for ukip supporters, that would have been the opposite if Labour had still been in power. But ukippers, like the People’s Front of Judea, are not interested in “what have the Tories ever done for us?” They are interested in changes which cannot be delivered, at least in the short term, because it is only those changes (or inability to deliver them) that will allow their indulgence in perpetual complaining.
        You only have to look at ukippers’ reaction to the prospect of letting Miliband in by the back door – to continue the Holy Land analogy, they wash their hands of the responsibility.
        If Miliband wins and Cameron is consigned to history I, while watching the country go hell, will be very interested in who ukippers blame for their and everyone else’s misery. For sure, it won’t be their pig-headed behaviour.

    • Hole_in_One

      Agreed

    • I wonder how many of the diverse Rotherham,Rochdale,Derby,Oxford etc… Child abusers are now back on our streets, in takeaways, taxis , close to easy meat . For LibLAbCon the pakistani ethnic vote is more important than the lives of millions of White British children. LIblabcon should be jailed for life, VOTE UKIP

      • Kennie

        I could not have put it better myself, well done.

        • yes, well put! should be on the ukip website so there can be no doubt that what carswell said about ukip position on immigrants is not the real party position!

    • Wessex Man

      I particularly like the way that Call me Dave and dear Sir (how on earth) Alan Duncan organised the Tory Summit on how to beat UKip as reported upon in today’s Mail on Sunday by Simon Walters and Brendan Carlin!

      When Mike Reid was singing his song, a so called friend sent me an e-mail asking where do they (UKip) get these people from. I’m very pleased to say in the light of the M o S article from nowhere near this bunch of Schoolboys!

  • Extoryfruitcake

    Does the Spectator employ any sane journalists?

    • Guest

      Apparently they do, else you wouldn’t be so worried about people reading this piece.

      • Extoryfruitcake

        I might be worried if no-one up-voted me………..oh, sorry, that’s you, not me! The Spectator’s journalists are clearly not as sane as their readers. That goes for the Torygraph and Dreary Mail as well, I notice.

        • LabLibCon_decadesofdestruction

          Completely agree @Extoryfruitcake

  • Michael Charlton

    I live on a planet far away from Essex. Please can someone tell me what the Spectator had against Mark Reckless in 2005 which persist to the present? Just to save me reading any more of this stuff.

    • Rallan

      Apparently there is strong personal dislike between Mark Reckless and George Osborne dating back to university. Reckless was never really welcome, and I’d guess that the Spectator was taking sides.

      • Michael Charlton

        Hey Rallan, Thanks for that. So this Spectator article and the original Spectator vendetta in 2005 are about nothing at all really? That’s amazing really that the Speccy, which I have loved and respected for years are writing tittle tattle nonsense. That begs more questions. I can’t wait for next week’s Letters to the Editor

        • LabLibCon_decadesofdestruction

          The Spectator appears to be churning out the same old rubbish that most other media rags print – all pro-EU rubbish!

    • AnotherDave

      The Spectator have mentioned their anti-Reckless stance several times. They’ve never actually spelled out what their problem with Mr Reckless was.

      I suspect that means they don’t think readers would agree.

      • LabLibCon_decadesofdestruction

        Well spotted!

      • Mike

        Like most others I’m still in the dark why the MSM seem to have it in for Reckless other than brown nosing Cameron to try and save his skin.

    • Lady Magdalene

      He’s a decent, honourable and anti-EU independent-thinker.

      The Speccy likes Conservative nodding dogs.

  • Greyfox

    This article sits not in native colours with the truth. The Tories are part of a left wing consensus which threatens to destroy the nation. People, in general have had enough. This accounts for the rise and supremacy of UKIP.

    • Dogzzz

      There are two left wings in the UK today. There is the old fashioned socialism, which is still patriotic, pro British and based on sincerely held beliefs. Then there is the middle-class, mullti-culti metropolitan “liberal progressive” anti-British leftism. It is the former that is drifting to UKIP and the latter which the whole liblabcon have embraced. The former denies economic reality. The latter denies all reality.

    • Mary Ann

      You show a lack of understanding of what left wing is, even the Liberals are to the right of center, Labour are center right and the tories are only less right than ukip. It’s recession which drives people to the right, I suppose it’s the desire to hang on to what you have, and f… those who are worse off than you.

  • Simon_in_London

    “those concerned about Europe have only one logical choice at the next election: to vote Tory and secure a referendum.” True for my constituency, but there are Labour seats where UKIP is the main challenge, and Tory seats where Labour & Lib Dems have no chance. It makes sense for Eurosceptics to phote UKIP in those. A minority Tory govt reliant on UKIP & DUP votes seems rather more likely to actually hold a referendum than a majority Tory govt would be.

    • Lady Magdalene

      Mine is a rock solid Conservative seat. I shall vote UKIP here and will be helping the campaign in the nearest UKIP target seat. If that means a trip to Thanet every weekend, so be it.

  • Exit_Stage_West

    I left school at 16.

    The problem isn’t David Cameron’s alone, it is general loss of people’s confidence in the political class. I don’t believe the current establishment. I don’t believe Dave is serious when he talks about referendum, I don’t believe he is serious about immigration, or EU payments etc… The fact that he said “I will not pay this bill on December 1st” meant that 90% of the people knew he was giving another politician’s weasel worded answer, because on December 2nd he can pay in full and still claim he didn’t pay as ordered.

    Lib Dems and Labour are just as bad (or even worse). So people are looking to alternatives UKIP and Greens.

    My extended family is relatively representative of voters, mixture of traditional and long standing labour/conservative voters with some floating voters who listen to the arguments and choose who to vote for at the election.

    I have to report that all are claiming they will be voting UKIP at the GE come what may. I fear (or not as the case may be) that the political earthquake is going to be bigger than anyone imagines at the moment.

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  • Matthew Tysoe

    TRUST. People want immigration into to the tens of thousands. Cameron promised, he didnt deliver. Why should we believe him ever again?

    Dont forget the NPPF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I am in my 30s I am neither a winner or a loser from globalisation, but I still support UKIP. It is not just those ‘left behind’ people who are attracted to them.

    • llbee

      Especiallh when the bribes come from our own money.

    • Lady Magdalene

      The one issue for me, above all others, is Sovereignty.

      We elect a Government to rule for 5 years and then to return power INTACT to the people, so they can elect another.

      We have never voted to give a Government the right to transfer OUR Sovereignty to a foreign treaty organisation.

    • global city

      The globalisation meme is also just bollux. 80% of the economy is internal and ran largely by SMEs. Of course, ‘globalisation’ has been hijacked by ideologues who then assert that if you want trade you have to have open borders and world socialism!

  • Rallan

    …who apparently agree with the statement ‘I hardly recognise the country I’m living in any more.’

    When politicians willfully ignore this concern, literally treating it as too vulgar to be mentioned, they are insulting a large portion of the electorate.

    For ordinary people the impact of unexpected mass immigration has been social and cultural as well as economic. You don’t have to be elderly to feel uncomfortable with the social/cultural effects of mass immigration.

    After decades of political correctness the public are reluctant to say it out loud, but they’ll say it in the privacy of the polling booth.

    • Matthew Tysoe

      Opinion polls show at least 70% of people want immigration controlled significantly. At the end of the day this article goes on about globalisation, but only 28 countries out of 150+ have ‘free movement’. And Europe is stagnating as a trading bloc.

      • Pacificweather

        The answer is to end employer subsidies and raise the minimum wage to £10 per hour. This will end the availability of cheap foreign labour and end the cheap labour immigrants allowing British workers to compete on a level playing field.

    • Bonzo

      True. While politicians refuse to accept that the majority of people in this country (see any opinion poll in the last 50 years) do not want mass immigration UKIP will prosper. That politicians still try and characterise those who do not want mass immigration as: racists, bigots, the left behind, uneducated, failures etc UKIP will continue to prosper. Any party that writes off 70% of the electorate will not prosper.

  • Chris Quin

    Another risible attempt to deflect the conversation away from the real issues – to attempt to obfuscate and confuse.

    Cameron is finished. He has had many years to prove himself to true Conservative voters and he has failed miserably.

    He failed to win in 2010 despite the open goal presented by the prospect of a Gordon Brown second term. He then allied himself to a party that many long time supporters and activists despise, simply to grab the power that the ballot box had denied him.

    Since then he has failed to offer a credible and timely route that would allow the
    country to free itself from the clutches of the EU. He has had four years in power but has delivered merely crumbs to his erstwhile supporters, dashing hopes and even going out of his way to antagonize . He is self-serving and a pro-EU liberal to the core.

    Cameron is bluffing on the EU and immigration – he will never keep his word and has proved his duplicity time and time again. The only way to get rid of him is to vote UKIP. The only way to get us out of the EU is to vote UKIP. If you continue to vote Tory we will not leave the EU and this issue will keep coming up again and again.

    There is no point having a referendum under pro-EU liberal Cameron as he
    has pledged to campaign for staying in – the Tory party is too spineless to get rid of him, so he must be defeated at the ballot box.

    I, and many others who understand these salient facts will be voting UKIP until Cameron is history and the UK has left the EU.

    • llbee

      He has promised a referendum. He has not promised a binding referendum.

      • Rifleman1853

        And that omission tells us all we need to know about the value of yet another Cameron “pledge”.

        • Mike

          Camerons assertions are about as welcome as a dose of the clap !

    • Wildflowers

      My (ex) Brother in Law was Constituency Party Chairman for Witney at the time of Cameron’s selection as an MP. As I said to my BiL at the time, as did many others, Cameron would say whatever he thought people wanted to hear to get selected and that he had no true convictions.

      Various words were used to describe him at the time (none repeatable here) and he has done nothing since to change our initial opinion of him. In fact, he has shown himself to be even worse that we could posibly have imagined. I hated Blair with a vengeance but by God Cameron comes a very, very close second.

  • silent_pilot

    The Tories have some great policies and they all have one thing in common: they’ve been stolen from UKIP.

    • Foxy Loxy

      Nonsense. The Tories have some poorly defined, vaguely worded propositions designed to sound a little like UKIP policies – but without any meaning behind them.

  • HamtunscireKippa

    While many are attracted to the ideas of UKIP, the core attraction is not ideas but the party culture, the mistrust of the Tories is the core reason why they wont go back.
    It is all well and good making promises of a better tomorrow, but like I said to a cheating ex-girlfriend, not only have I heard all that before, but you are a proven liar, so the promises have little value.
    Many Tory voters, those of long standing especially, who have come over to UKIP have suffered long term verbal abuse from the ‘modern’ Tory Party, so why should it be seen as attractive to go back to that? It isnt and it would be bizarre to expect them to do so.

  • Simon Smalley

    No I think it is to late now far to late ukip will over a 100 seats now… fact.

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  • How I was able to get my husband back from those home breaker

    OMG…… YOU’VE TOLD MY STORY….. MY NAME IS JANICES WALLOCKS FROM HOUSTON,TEXAS.I NEVER BELIEVED IN LOVE SPELLS OR MAGIC UNTIL I MET THIS SPELL CASTER ONCE WHEN I WENT TO AFRICA IN DECEMBER LAST YEAR ON A BUSINESS SUMMIT. HE IS REALLY POWERFUL AND COULD HELP CAST SPELLS TO BRING BACK ONE’S GONE,LOST,MISBEHAVING LOVER LOOKING FOR SOME ONE TO LOVE YOU, BRING BACK LOST MONEY AND MAGIC MONEY SPELL OR SPELL FOR A GOOD JOB.I’M NOW HAPPY & A LIVING TESTIMONY COS THE MAN I HAD WANTED TO MARRY LEFT ME 2 WEEKS BEFORE OUR WEDDING AND MY LIFE WAS UPSIDE DOWN COS OUR RELATIONSHIP HAS BEEN ON FOR 2YEARS… I REALLY LOVED HIM, BUT HIS MOTHER WAS AGAINST US AND HE HAD NO GOOD PAYING JOB. SO WHEN I MET THIS SPELL CASTER, I TOLD HIM WHAT HAPPENED AND EXPLAINED THE SITUATION OF THINGS TO HIM..AT FIRST I WAS UNDECIDED,SKEPTICAL AND DOUBTFUL, BUT I JUST GAVE IT A TRY. AND IN 7 DAYS WHEN I RETURNED TO TEXAS, MY BOYFRIEND (NOW HUSBAND) CALLED ME BY HIMSELF AND CAME TO ME APOLOGIZING THAT EVERYTHING HAD BEEN SETTLED WITH HIS MOM AND FAMILY AND HE GOT A NEW JOB INTERVIEW SO WE SHOULD GET MARRIED..I DIDN’T BELIEVE IT COS THE SPELL CASTER ONLY ASKED FOR MY NAME AND MY BOYFRIENDS NAME AND ALL I WANTED HIM TO DO… WELL WE ARE HAPPILY MARRIED NOW AND WE ARE EXPECTING OUR LITTLE KID,AND MY HUSBAND ALSO GOT THE NEW JOB AND OUR LIVES BECAME MUCH BETTER. IN CASE ANYONE NEEDS THE SPELL CASTER FOR SOME HELP, HIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS:, bravespellcaster@gmail.com ,or kindly visit he Website: http://enchantedscents.tripod.com/lovespell/ THEN YOUR BROBLEM WILL BE SOLVE .

  • NHS Whistleblower

    Filthy business .. in Lincoln County Hospital, three doctors were sitting at home getting their full salary for about six months while the NHS was paying £50-100 per an hour for others to cover them. The reason for suspending the first two doctors was because they blow the whistle. Instead of investigating the matter and improve it they suspended them then dismissed them !! The third one was a consultant who victimised the first two. Of course, he was stopped for six months then returned to do exactly what he was doing for the patients. Surprisingly the consultant (Mr Martin Clark) was not promoted like Andy Coulson to work in 10 Downing Street. The consultant was sitting at his home, getting his full salary and was doing extra money from his private work!! The other three consultants who covered him made lots of money; One of them Mr Jason Niamat bought two top-of-the-range Range Rovers one for him and one for his wife. The other consultant Mr Mark Buah got a top-of-the-range BMW. The Mr Wesam Aleid got top-of-the-range Mercedes and new home ..

    This is not a joke .. go to twitter and check #ULHT and ULHT .. also check the full conversation at twitter goo.gl/BccAMm

    The two doctors who were dismissed went to court and the trust are now also paying two 3 barristers and 3 solicitors. Unfortunately for the trust, the whistleblower kept tape recordings

    This is reality .. this is where the money goes .. this was brought to the attention of Jeremy Hunt, the COE of NHS confederation and the COE of the trust but nothing happened .. all covered up ..

    This is only a snapshot, from One Dep. in one hospital, in one year!!

    • Nele Schindler

      Can’t you put all of this into a blog? Bravo to you.

  • NHS Whistleblower

    I’m a member of staff in Lincoln County Hospital, patients who were clearly diagnosed with cancer were discharged. One of them was discharged because Mr Martin Clark was running late on the clinic. The issue was raised with other consultants Mr Wesam Aleid and Mr Jason Niamat. They both said, this has been going on for ages.

    At least 5 patients were identified in a very short period .. These cancer patients were diagnosed at very early stage by their GP and they would only need straight forward surgery under local anaesthetic to remove the cancer once and for ever .. but they were discharged and left so the cancer can spread and then they died

    The issue was raised with the CEO Mrs Jane Lewington but never investigated. They made their best to keep all the concerns off records so no one can prove that there were concerns. Up till now, we do not know how many patients died because of this and how many patients out there !!

    Mr Suneil Kapadia the Medical Director was also informed but nothing happened apart from the cover up ..

    This is not a joke .. go to twitter and check #ULHT and ULHT for more stories .. also check the full conversation at twitter goo.gl/BccAMm

    Filthy business!!

  • livnletliv

    He should stop taking advice from deluded clueless journalists.

  • Fenman

    The Downing t refusal to support Fallon’s honest description of how many people feel swamped in the East of England totally undermined Cameron’s statements on immigration. Downing St is totally infected with shallow liberal political correctness which has destroyed the credibility of Cameron. Time and again they put their foot int their mouth and blot out the good news, such as the economy. What Cameron shd be doing, as the mayor of Calais has pointed out, is introducing policies that make the UK less attractive. here in Belgium one has to wait 2 years to access the health system, until then you rightly pay full whack. I had to attend a language course and an integration course, and if you fail no ID card.

  • Horatio

    A fine but desperate defence of modern Conservatism … but its too late, too many people have had to put up with far too much. Cameron could offer to gold plate every UKIP policy but UKIP supporters want a leader, not a follower. They want honest policies, not lies blurted out in a desperate attempt to claw back support from the party that took it away.
    The three “main parties” have, in recent years, adopted a “we know best” policy. They have ignored the people. They have regarded themselves as “progressives” the ugly meaning of which is, “the people are too dim to understand, but we will show them the way.” Such is their arrogance, they believe their own hype and describe themselves as thought leaders.
    Now, they are reaping their just rewards. People do not like arrogant leaders, who feel they can lie to the electorate to gain office, then dismiss the people with a wave of their hand and ignore them until the next election.
    One thing Nigel Farage is, is honest. He says it like it is. Pro-establishment “journalists” cannot catch him out because he is not peddling this weeks “line”, he is saying what he thinks. UKIP does what it says on the can.
    The desperate attempts to use lies and slurs to try to discredit UKIP have been recognised as such by the public and the support for UKIP grows ever faster.
    Personally, I doubt that politics will ever be the same again and that can only be a good thing after the nightmare of the last few decades.

    • Lady Magdalene

      Cameron is reportedly all in favour of nudge politics.

      He’s been incredibly successful at nudging millions of former Conservative voters into the arms of UKIP.

      • Hole_in_One

        Er, did you mean “fudge politics”?

  • global city

    Such a stale narrative….he even used the ‘left behind’ meme!!!!

  • Rifleman1853

    “So the Tories already have the policies — but these proposals need to be
    sold properly, by a party that is led properly. Even now, it’s not too
    late for that.”

    Yes, it is too late – way too late. Fine words might have made a difference in 2009, but what Cameron gave us was weasel words. Come 7th May, the electorate will judge him not on his words, or his claimed policies, but on what he has DONE in his 5 years in office.

    And what he has done is to break a raft of key pledges he made in 2010. Cutting the budget deficit, protecting our AAA sovereign debt rating, deporting foreign born violent criminals and terrorists, reducing net immigration to tens of thousands, austerity on government spending, a bonfire of the quangos – and, most sickening of all, was this broken promise:

    “Nobody should be punished for doing the right thing, not rewarded for doing the wrong thing.”

    Remember that, Spectator? Yet look what has actually happened.

    Sharon Shoesmith, far from being punished for criminal negligence, has just been awarded £680,000. One doctor involved in the torture and murder of Baby P was struck off; as far as I’m aware, not one of the others involved, from Social Services or the police have ever been punished for their deliberate dereliction of duty.

    And how about those responsible for 1200 preventable deaths in North Staffs NHS Trust? None of them were prosecuted for corporate manslaughter; every one of them was allowed to “step down” – but with full pension rights! – and every one of them was promptly recruited by other NHS Trusts, and put into equally responsible positions, where people’s lives depended on them doing their jobs. And the big boss, on whose desk the buck stopped? Cameron put David ‘No Blood on MY Hands’ Nicholson in charge of the whole of the NHS, saying he was the best person for the job!

    And, on the flip-side, what happened to whistle-blowers who tried to expose the chronic failure of senior NHS staff? They were hounded out of their jobs.

    And you lot, SERIOUSLY, expect us to trust Cameron – a lying, cynical, amoral, arrogant, blundering incompetent – with the future well-being of our country?

    You may be barking mad, Spectator, but – fortunately – a fair proportion of the electorate is not.

  • Gareth Stone

    Haha… well done, Speccie. This has gone well, hasn’t it? The Tory party ain’t just losing support, it’s crumbling terminally. You lot sold out to the left ; you sold out to the EU ; you took on their language and perspective ; now you’re dying. I think you should declare for Ed and have done with it.

    • global city

      I know what the cultural Marxists want the Tories to shift their way, in order to permanently shift the spectrum leftward, but why would any person in the Tory Party agree that this is a sound social and electoral aim?

      With regards to elections, then why vote for them now?

      Nobody has ever answered that fundamental point. Why would you vote for a Social Democratic party (continental tradition) just because it is branded as the ‘Conservative’ party? If you are conservative/right-wing/libertarian inclined then you find a party that espouses the right policies and ideals, not the one with the branding.

      Speccie journos are utterly stuck in the bubbleheadedness of the Westminster village, and as such are currently of no value.

  • MV_E

    No one believes Cast iron Dave on the referendum or any other of his last minute promises. That’s why they’re voting #UKIP

    • Chris_M_Ward

      Cameron promised to introduce an 80mph speed limit on motorways before the least election, effectively doing nothing since people do that anyway, but he couldn’t even manage that. He’s an utter waste of space.

      • Aberrant_Apostrophe

        Cameron doing a U-turn on a motorway? I’d love to have seen that…

    • froxfields

      He promises to do, or investigate, or fix everything you want when under pressure. Action is what the weasel is weak on.

  • Jonathan Elms

    I’d be careful about limiting the demographic, if I were you, Mr Nelson. The support is coming from an ever wider swathe of society. What’s more, their voice is being increasingly heard, despite the subtle spin and censorship being applied by the new guard at The Telegraph, and, to a lesser extent, yourselves. Must the quality of rigorous reporting decline at the rate of the BBC, when the quality of our political parties is already at an all-time low?

  • misomiso

    I am not a soldier of UKIP at all, but I am so depressed at this line taken by the Spectator Editorial team. It strikes me that Guido Fawkes is right when he says the Telegraph is falling into line behind Cameron, as it seems the Spectator is doing the same.

    It is fundamentally, FUNDAMENTALLY undemocratic to suggest that an elected British Government can do nothing about immigration. If there was a majority in the Houses of Parliament to control the borders, the borders should be controlled. The fact that the best political magazine in the UK don’t endorse this view tears me to my soul.

    And it gets to the heart of what the split on the Right is about. The EU is a sin against the basic principles of the British State, that no Parliament can bind the will of another. Every EU treaty is an undemocratic erosion of almost 1000 years of history.

    There is no talk form reformers about fair representation in the European Parliament, Judges on ECJ being appointed by Merit, or the Commission not having one member per state, because the reformers know the EU is an undemocratic monstrosity that treats its citizens with contempt, and would rather mass unemployment than admit the folly of the Euro.

    In any normal political circumstances Cameron and Osborne overwhelmingly deserve re election, but the fact is they choose Europe over Britain, and they put British Citizens second, and as all eurosceptics know it will be impossible to get an out vote in an in/out referendum with Cameron in Downing Street.

    Better they lose, and the Right reforms along the lines of the SNP, and then we can leave.

    • Lady Magdalene

      Well said. The EU is a sin against our Sovereignty, Constitution and Democracy.

  • Nele Schindler

    But that’s all bullshit and you know it.

    The pensions changes were welcome but they are NOT the most important thing on voter’s minds – immigration and cultural change are, the stuff that in spite of you squealing ‘modernity’ still matters to a large majority of people who want none of your utopia.

    The NHS is being stuffed with money, with no discernible outcome. Money for the NHS is not an issue – mismanagement and political correctness are, and again, nothing is being done to address this.

    Under the Tories, we had the Mid-Staffordshire scandal where hundreds of the elderly and vulnerable were left to die of neglect, and the whole thing, with the collusion of the press, just vanished from public debate. We had Rotherham – just kinda gone, too, it seems.

    Most everything the Tories have given us is either just tinkering around the edges or outright betrayal. People will stand up and demand better, as they have every right to.

    UKIP will do even better than predicted at the general election. My guess is a whole new political landscape: at some point a proper conservative government with a proper socialist opposition (SNP is my bet). Tory and Labour belong into the dustbin of history.

    • Lady Magdalene

      If people hold their nerve and ignore the bribes which LibLabCON will be offering, there is a chance UKIP could hold the balance of power.

      And then it really is game on.

  • Sceptaphilia

    Cameron has taken the party in a direction that many party members are not happy with. Lots of them have left and others are toying with the idea.

    Cameron doesn’t actually believe in anything. He believes in the EU because his advisers tell him to. The EU is a busted flush and we will be busted too if we remain in it….which I fear that we will because I don’t think people will vote to leave. Most don’t know enough about it to make a rational decision and neither do the UKIP rank and file who will be the best recruiting sergeant the IN campaign will have. Even their elected MEPs are lacking in knowledge. That is why I don’t join it

  • Damaris Tighe

    Spectator, you’re offering the same managerial politics that many people now despise. Important though they are, do you think that people can still be bought off with spending on pensions & the NHS? Many voters can see that Britain’s character is being fundamentally changed, & they don’t like it. To use a cliche, they want their country back.

    What’s the point of better pensions & a more efficient NHS when the nation these institutions serve has become unrecognisable? The Tories keep hunting for something to offer & come up with some micromanaging small idea. They think politics is simply about being better managers. Perish the thought that they should talk about Britain as a nation, & its traditions. If the Conservative Party really lived up to its name, instead of being Labour Lite, it would win.

  • Bonkim

    Sound advice – reacting to UKIP is playing second fiddle – to win Conservatives need to be assertive about their policies and what that means to voters.

  • Damaris Tighe

    And another thing, if the Tories don’t like some of their voters they insult & abandon them. Like the wrong kind of leaves, they’re the wrong kind of voters. And then complain when these neglected & ignored voters find another party to represent them.

  • Foeu

    The Government are not listening to the electorate and The Spectator is not listening to its readers. How can you go on writing this stuff? By the way, the writing is on the wall for Cameron.

  • George Orwell

    Perhaps the writer of this article is too close to the Tory establishment to understand why the man in the street is preferring Ukip.

    • Foxy Loxy

      I’d suggest that the public school educated, born with a silver spoon in his mouth, arrogant toff-ish, despiser of the working classes has barely ever actually spoken with a ‘man on the street’ in his life.

  • JamesR

    I see the Labour party and their supporters dont even get a mention. If anyone is deeply unimpressive it is Miliband and Balls. A fitting name after what they did to us last time. Are the labour supporters so dim in cloth caps and so fixed on benefits that they cant see further than the end of their noses?

  • cambridgeelephant

    I read this Editorial in the printed edition yesterday. I was deeply unimpressed.

    Firstly, why the spite against Reckless ? Are you really saying that he was the worst Conservative Party candidate, amidst a deeply unimpressive field back in 2005 ? I take the point that Marshall Andews was different. But this smacks to me of spite within a hidden agenda. Care to tell us what that might be ? No ! I thought not.

    This :- “And those concerned about Europe have only one logical choice at the next election: to vote Tory and secure a referendum.”

    is not just specious. It’s deeply untrue and you know it. According to it’s critics – UKIP couldn’t be more than a protest vote. But they showed they were.

    They couldn’t get past 5% of the vote. But they did.
    They couldn’t get past 10%. But they did.
    They could only win a few Councillors. But they did more than that.
    They could never win in the Euro elections. But they did.
    They were never going to win even one seat to Westminster under FPTP
    But they did.
    They were going to be crushed in Rochester. But they are 14% clear at the moment in the polls.
    Now comes the refrain – they can’t win anything next May.

    Guess what ? We’re not buying it. Re-read what I’ve just written and you might see why.

    • English Aborigine

      And they’ll all come home

      Wagging their tails behind them

      No

  • Malcolm Stevas

    “It is true,” writes the Speccie, “that Ukip is supported by people who believe the system is not working out for them, but such people are not the effluent of the 20th century or stuck in the past. They have legitimate concerns. They should be seen as the most important voters in the 21st, the ones most in need of conservative solutions. A One Nation Conservative party should be for everyone, not just those with fashionable opinions.”
    God I love this stuff. It seems you wonder where the Tories (and you) went wrong, how to counter UKIP, why on earth people unaccountably vote for those fearful oiks… Then you come out with this glorious plateful of unselfconscious patronising twaddle!
    Yeah, the system isn’t working out for me – not me personally, you understand, since I can look out for myself and will just move elsewhere if this country really goes down the pan. But I actually care about England – terribly old fashioned of me and I dare say you might join Guardian readers in laughing out loud at such jejune antiquery… This is my “legitimate concern” old chap: the Tories have decayed into just another centrist social-democrat self-regarding Statist bunch of twats whose
    loftiest ambition is to hold onto office. I don’t actually give a damn about any political party as such – they can all die of a lingering disease and I shan’t bat an eyelid. It would just be nice to have a government that cared about the basics – which includes, yes, controlling our borders properly, protecting our culture from mass immigration, and maintaining our sovereign ability to govern ourselves.
    I don’t necessarily think UKIP is any sort of magic bullet, but it offers the slender possibility of something different from the specious Punch & Judy act of Labour & Conservatives taking Buggins’s turn at cocking things up.
    I trust this is sufficiently unfashionable.

    • Treebrain

      Malcolm,

      Brilliant comment and witty too!

    • Fenton!

      Bravo! And seconded.

    • Sums up the feelings of anybody with more than three synapses interconnected. Bravissimo!

  • Lesley

    ‘if you vote UKIP’ you must be thick – didn’t work, support became stronger
    ‘UKIP are swivel eyed loons’ – didn’t work, support became stronger
    ‘UKIP are racist bigots’ – didn’t work, support became stronger
    ‘UKIP want to privatise the NHS’ – didn’t work, support became stronger.
    ‘Future spoof documentary on UKIP’ – wont work, support will become stronger.
    ‘MSM continual bias against UKIP’ – not working, UKIPcontinues to grow its support at an alarming rate!
    Even a child would learn not to stick his hand in a fire if he had been burnt so many times!

    • froxfields

      Brilliant omment. The “thick” UKippers one seems to be the one most popular with journalists. The msm won’t learn though because their fingers are in their ears, they really don’t give a toss. Pretty soon they will though.
      They haven’t a clue.

      • Lesley

        All these slurs are designed to make people feel inferior for voting UKIP – they have even brought in the big Gun Blair to slur UKIP as the ‘nasty party’ – I couldn’t have chosen anyone better to gain more UKIP support – I mean whatever Blair suggests, I would expect most voters (including Labour) will vote the opposite of what such a failed politician says 🙂

        • cambridgeelephant

          For Blair to accuse UKIP of dishonesty really takes the biscuit. ‘Dear Nigel Kettle…love Tony Pot.’

          The man’s a total shyster. He got away with it for ten years but most of us can now see him, for what he is and always was.

      • Aberrant_Apostrophe

        It must be difficult typing with ones fingers in ones ears. It’s a good CCHQ send out suitable copy, aka Press Releases, to regurgitate.

  • Dogzzz

    So he fails by copying UKIP, because we know he cannot deliver. And why has he had to copy UKIP? because his “modernisation” policies have failed, so trying to sell them instead of copying UKIP will not work either.

    I’ll tell you for free what will work.

    1. Get rid of Cameron and Osborne, quickly.
    2. The new real conservative leader needs to very quickly show real intent by actually doing, rather than talking… invoke article 50 of Lisbon and declare a full in or out referendum. None of that obviously rubbish, unobtainable con of renegotiation. Oh… and campaign to leave the EU.

    3. reject the socially divisive political correctness of liblabcon entirely.

    4. Scrap the climate change act.

    If the tories cannot do that small and easy task before the general election, then they prove that they have no ambition or desire to win at all.

    • Rillian

      If you don’t mind.

      5. Invest in nuclear power. Nuclear equipment and machinery is our biggest export market. We should be investing in fusion r&d etc. for the future.

      • John Croston

        6. Stop lying that atrocities carried out by fanatical Muslims have nothing to do with Islam when they obviously have everything to do with Islam.

  • RichardBaranov

    Bob Marshall Andrews better than Mark Reckless! Give me a brake. Andrews chose to saunter off to Hong Kong to make money as a lawyer than attend his own running for the seat in Rochester. He deserved to lose for treating his constituents with such contempt. Mark Reckless is superior by far with regard to his constituents and that is why he has so much support.

    Sour grapes from the establishment, which you support, it’s so typical and demonstrates how little you care for voters. The peasants really are a pain in the a*se voting the wrong way all the time.

  • Richard Eldritch

    Is that it? Laughable. I thought you were going to outline how to beat Ukip?

    • Damaris Tighe

      My thought exactly. What a damp squib.

  • Richard Eldritch

    Those pesky Brits and their unhappiness at the UK being turned into a third world Shiite hole.

  • kazdix

    Don’t want to fight UKIP as they speak for me and thousands like me..simples.

  • ManOfKent

    Oh for goodness sake. Not the same tired empty rhetoric again. Enough of this fetid flatulence and contemptible sneering arrogance.

    I really don’t know why worthless Tory mouthpieces like Nelson (I assume this is Nelson) even bother insulting our intelligence with this mindless drivel anymore.
    Please can we just get the election over with and get rid of this worthless bunch of narcissists

  • Terence Hale

    Hi,
    “Cameron’s every move seems to play into Farage’s hands”. I do not agree. To take the quicksand waddles seriously would be an insult to British intelligence. I hope Britain will not be ruled by the pub .

    • Richard Eldritch

      Nope, no idea……

      • Terence Hale

        Richard !
        A pint glass is a form of drinkware made to hold either a British UKIP politician happy or nonsense. A band of government drop out’s and vagabonds.

        • Aberrant_Apostrophe

          ???

  • Richard Eldritch

    I’m a bit of greenish lefty myself but I’ll be voting Ukip just because everyone I despise doesn’t want me to. The Torys, the LibDems, Labour, the Media, The Eu, Big Buisness, The Americans and all the Islamic loving wonks in Islington.

    oh and of course the SNP,BNP, and the WelshNP

  • Dogzzz

    If that is the strategy to defeat UKIP, I look forward to UKIP winning up to 100 seats in May 2015 and holding the balance of power.

  • beenzrgud

    I disagree with the idea that UKIP supporters are somehow life’s badly educated losers. I currently support UKIP and would consider myself a successful, well educated go getter. I see the EU more as a hindrance to progress rather than the future, and being a member of it is akin to trying to swim the Channel with a lead weight tied around ones neck. We would be better out of it, and I think the same goes for many of the other member states.

    • MrJones

      “I disagree with the idea that UKIP supporters are somehow life’s badly educated losers”

      It’s reverse identity politics i.e. these people aren’t like you so don’t vote for them.

      They did the same thing before with the golf club / blazer stereotype.

      It’s just a tactic.

  • Lady Magdalene

    The bubble mentality of the MSM has contributed significantly to this situation for the legacy Parties. They continually denigrated UKIP, whilst cheerleading for LibLabCON, demonstrating that they had no appreciation of or understanding about what was happening in the country outside London or why.

    Until Messrs Ford and Goodwin explained what was driving the UKIP surge, they assumed it was what they said it was: bigots and racists; golf club bores; the right-wing of the Conservative Party.

    Nothing could be further from the truth. It’s the British working class – mainly but by no means exclusively white – rejecting the cosy consensus of the liberal elite which has benefited the Establishment and the EU to the detriment of ordinary working people.

    We haven’t signed up to their policy of transferring our Sovereignty to the EU; flooding the country with unrestricted numbers of immigrants and doing anything BUT stand up for the interests of British people.

    There’s nothing Cameron can do about it. He and his ilk are the problem. Farage and UKIP are the solution.

    Edited to add: Cameron has never retracted his slur that UKIP supporters are loonies, fruitcakes and closet racists. When invited to do so he refused. What he did do was say that gratuitous insults should not be made. Since then Ken Clarke and others have continued.

    • Chingford Man

      The Ford-Goodwin analysis is helpful but UKIP is already moving on from reliance on Mr and Mrs Clacton, as I’m finding on Rochester & Strood doorsteps.

  • Swanky

    The trouble with British political thinking — and this piece exemplifies what’s wrong with it — is that government in your eyes is only for those designated as needy in some way. All this about the old and the sick: they are already catered for. (The fact that the systems in place, primarily the NHS, do not always do well at it is neither here nor there.)

    Democracy should be for everyone: that’s what it means. The people that need government most, i.e. safety nets, are not the backbone of the country. It’s the people that mainly want government to stay out of their way, to provide the national security and basic legal infrastructure for thriving and nothing much more, that actually create prosperity and a stable, well-ordered culture. Government doesn’t create culture: the people do. Government doesn’t create wealth: the people do. And government should be of and by the strong as well as the weak. UKIP represents the people in its entirety and that’s why UKIP deserves to rule.

    • Hole_in_One

      Sound analysis. Further, with the complacency of Lab and Tory who assume their “natural” vote will be delivered anyway, they start to appeal to specific communities to bolster their “core” , regardless if the views of that core. This is what has underpinned Rotherham – best not upset those lovely voters, not matter what is right.

      • Swanky

        Cheers.

    • M.Gresham

      What a brilliant post. Superb.

      • Swanky

        Blush!

    • Denim77

      Absolutely great post.

    • RobertC

      “Government doesn’t create culture: the people do.”

      It is worse than that. Government destroys culture.

      That is why charities have played such a large part in the past, but even these are morphing into political entities. Anything absorbed into the State, through nationalisation (railways, British Steel, BL, the Banks) or financial or political takeovers (the NHS) grows a hierarchy that has no need to function, apart from elevating people way above those whom they should be serving and getting on with the politicians, to feather their nest: salaries, pensions and, the most expensive perk of all, no responsibility.

      It is destroying the family as well, and making the poor even poorer.

  • Laguna Beach Fogey

    Why in the world would we want to ‘fight’ UKIP?

    #voteUKIP

    And I say this as a former Tory.

  • jeffersonian

    If Peter Oborne is against something (or someone), that probably means it, he or she deserves our full support.

    • John Croston

      I will never forget that despicable man saying on Question Time that the young Rochdale girls who had been groomed, drugged and raped by Pakistani Muslim gangs had “sold themselves for a packet of crisps.” Vile man.

      • Kennie

        Did Oborne really say that? I knew he was a despicable drunkard, but I did not realise he was so bad.

  • Christian

    It always comes down to money with these people. We don’t care if immigrants sh*t gold bullion

    • Aberrant_Apostrophe

      True. Try walking around Park Lane sometime. It certainly aint gold bullion lying in neat piles in doorways.

  • Treebrain

    “It is strange to think that only a few weeks ago, the Tories were confident about keeping hold of Rochester & Strood.”

    Really?

    The basic problem is that the Tories are so far removed from the lives of the ordinary people who form the vast majority of the electorate that they have no clue about how they will vote because they have no idea how they live their lives on a daily basis in the UK of 2014.

    Like a group of generals refighting the last war, the Tories are frantically trying to employ the usual, tired, old, tried and tested tactics and strategies; ‘sound bites’, ‘photo opportunities’, ‘focus groups’ and the like, to even notice that the rules of the game have not changed, but rather everyone else is actually playing a different game!

    The technical term is ‘paradigm shift’ but in plain English, (as favoured by George Orwell, one of the most brilliant political analysts England ever produced), it just means it is a new world.

    The old divisions of left, centre and right are no longer useful when addressing the issues that concern the UK electorate. As the metropolitan chattering classes, denizens of Westminster village and special interest groups spend their time navel-gazing and fantasising, in the real world people are bewildered with the obsession with gay marriage, the ring-fencing of foreign aid, the countless foreign wars that squander blood and treasure in Afghanistan, Iraq x2, and Libya all for nothing!

    The Tories are totally out of touch as their utter shock at coming so close to losing the independence vote in Scotland makes clear.

    Should there be any further doubt, just look at the fiasco over the simple task of appointing someone to chair the child abuse investigation?

    As for Labour, they are just as bad, after the Scotland vote they crowed about how Gordon Brown had ‘saved the Union’, within weeks they learnt the hard lesson that action have consequences, as the STV poll showed that they face electoral annihilation in Scotland and so cannot possibly hope to form a UK national government.

    The Lib Dems are no better, under Clegg they sold their soul for his personal ambition to bePM and agreed to the university fee increases they vowed to oppose! Now students (and their parents) face £50,000 debt for doing a degree!

    We live in interesting times!

  • edithgrove

    “David Cameron must respond by exuding a sense of purpose and direction.”

    This he does already and we’ve seen through the charade. He would have to have a sense of purpose and direction to convince.

  • Aberrant_Apostrophe

    “How to fight Ukip”

    Wrong question. It should be “Why fight UKIP?”

  • AJAX

    Whomever authored this article has little grasp of what UKIP is & the mortal threat it poses to the Conservative Party, thinking you can see it off by tinkering around & throwing out a few sops & petty bribes (using the people’s own taxes to do it) isn’t going to cut it.

    Cameron’s team carried out a pretty clever move on the chess board with the EU Referendum offer to try to destroy it but there are too many angles open across the board for UKIP to attack now, & too many capital pieces bearing down to be stopped.

    Not quite Check-mate for the Conservative Party, or even Check – yet, but it’s not far off.

  • kandanada

    Plato said there can never be a grass roots movement. Change always comes from the top.

    Plato never had the internet.

    Won’t get fooled again, I’m sticking with Ukip.

    • Aberrant_Apostrophe

      Thank God philosophers don’t become politicians. Then again, most of our current crowd have got PPE degrees.

      • kandanada

        Yes, and from what I can gather, they learn that everything is just history repeating itself and you just need a bit of Westminster Theatre to keep the proles occupied whilst you carry on doing exactly what you want.

        The lie is that no real freedoms were fought for and won over the last century. We just have one helluva propaganda machine. Popular culture is being manipulated by the cultural Marxists to force us to believe that progressive is always better that traditional.

  • Gerschwin

    So now the Speccie moves from denial and anger to bargaining… next up is depression followed finally by acceptance – and then at last you can move on with your lives in a world where UKIP will be having a richly deserved say.

  • Mr Starter

    UKIP embodies a rebellion by those who can no longer tolerate their nation being undermined and cannot see why their freedoms and way of life should be sacrificed at the behest of EU fanatics.Until politicians have the courage to change course and revert to governing in accordance with the wishes of the British people they have no right to expect any loyalty and attempts at bribery using pensions,NHS etc.will be treated with contempt.There is a crisis coming and if the Tory/Labour cartel continues to thwart the people they will be swept away.

  • MrJones

    Over the last 16 years the political class massively increased the demand for forced prostitution.

    Grooming gangs all over the country suppyied that demand with thousands of 11-16 year old girls.

    The political class covered it up and are still doing everything they can to prevent the public realising the full scale of it.

    Obviously it hasn’t effected everyone directly yet but it shows what total **** the political class are and how important it is that every last one of them gets replaced.

    • Rillian

      What’s the betting they spill it all after May next year. Plenty of time for people to forget before the next election.

  • PeterA5145

    What a load of nonsense, which completely fails to address the concerns of UKIP defectors. The Tories need to give the impression that they are really on the side of pensioners and hard-working ordinary folk, which they have signally failed to do. They just seem to patronise people from a great height. They’re a busted flush, to be honest.

  • Finefox1986

    I left school at 15, but still have the vote. and a driving licence and determination to rid this Country of the cesspit that is the EU.

  • Jannerman

    Cameron gave a ‘cast-iron guarantee’ that we would have a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty. He failed to deliver it. Why are you surprised that no-one trusts him now?

  • Fenton!

    Look, the reason that UKIP even exists is that Labour and the Conservatives failed. Labour was always bound to fail the people because failure is built into its nature: socialism doesn’t work. In that way the failure of the Conservatives is more avoidable and therefore more culpable. But even they have the excuse that they tried to bushwhack their way back to a sensible running of the country, and were opposed at every turn by the dominant Leftists that have held sway for most of the past 60 years.

    We finally have a second chance to turn back the failed experiment of the 20th century — irresponsible socialism — and keep our nation strong well into the 21st. And The Spectator’s against it.

  • Bertie Wooster

    Don’t fight UKIP, support them. As a (former) life long Tory supporter I agonised over voting UKIP the first time but after doing so it was like a huge weight had been lifted off me.

    For the first time in 20 years I was actually voting for a party I wanted rather than just voting for the lesser evil. There is practically no difference now between the Tories, Labour and Lib Dems. UKIP actually want what’s best for Britain.

  • Fenton!

    I haven’t read all the many comments, but it seems to be a clear case of The Spectator Elite against The Readers, who overwhelmingly support UKIP or see it at least as a good thing and a boost for Britain. I do understand the elementary point that dividing votes can sometimes be nothing better than cutting off one’s nose to spite one’s face — and the irrationality of such voting can be deeply frustrating since it does so much harm. On the other hand, UKIP is not Ross Perot, the vote-splitting wildcard independent billionaire, and British voters are not like Americans in that they don’t have a genuinely freedom-loving party such as the Republican Party. Owing to many decades of Leftist onslaught, what they have instead is a pale imitation of a wet mirror image of a faint reflection of an appeasing party, to wit, the Tories.

    • Simon_in_London

      “genuinely freedom-loving party such as the Republican Party”

      Hmm. I guess I’d agree that there are some freedom-favouring elements within the Republicans. But I’m not seeing a huge difference from the Conservatives overall.

      • Malcolm Stevas

        Freedom? In our country, the Conservative Party was responsible for originating all but one of our Firearms Acts – initially through paranoia, subsequently repeated & augmented by bureaucratic momentum and instances of moral panic. In the USA, it’s the Democrats who howl for “gun control” – not the Republicans.
        Seems a pretty clear difference to me.

  • Bertie Wooster

    “David Cameron must respond by exuding a sense of purpose and direction.”

    Difficult when you only know how to do U turns.

  • What is the sense in keeping copy cats around?

    As long as UKIP is setting the pace as to debating policy, keeping the redundant around is equal to the Tories ability to hold back the tide.

    The establishment is throttling the life out of the Tories, and those who are not stuffed shirts are going to where they are listened to, instead of being put up with.

  • Bertie Wooster

    I keep hearing that the Tories had “priced in” defeat against UKIP first at the European election, then later at Clacton and now in Rochester and Strood.

    Their logic seems to be that they were expecting to lose so no real damage was done…

  • Mike

    There’s only one way Cameron can stop hemorrhaging Tory votes and that’s by having a in/out referendum BEFORE the general election next year, nothing else stands a chance of working and even this option is questionable.

    Cameron is completely mistrusted because of all the lies he’s told and when you get into that state you have to prove by actions, not more lame rhetoric that you have something to offer.

    This article pretends the Tories can offer something to the country but the truth is, most people are fed up with mass immigration and there’s nothing Cameron will do not can do to fix that. All the other issues like inadequate health care, high costs in housing, education and welfare are the fault of mass immigration and most of that comes from the EU. Fix that and you can then fix everything else but Cameron refuses to go down that path and will lose.

    Only Ukip has committed to fix those and its clear how they can do it unlike LibLabCon !

  • Hole_in_One

    You mentioned three sterling Tory policies on pensions, NHS, and Europe. Still mo recognition that the no.1 public concern is immigration in all its guides, EU or non-EU. With friends like you……..,,,,

    • Hole_in_One

      Guises!

  • Bill_der_Berg

    If it helps, my price for switching to the Tories is a pair of tickets to Ken Dodd’s show on Clacton Pier.

    • Swanky

      That’s not very ambitious, is it? I think they’re more desperate than that. May I suggest a year’s supply of best Cava (cheap at the price) and a long holiday in the Seychelles each summer?

      • Bill_der_Berg

        … and a statue of Enoch in Parliament Square.

        I am assuming that Dave will fail in his gallant bid to keep the extra few billion out of the hands of the EU. If he succeeds, then the sky’s the limit.

  • John Andrews

    So the Spectator thinks we should vote Tory to protect our pensions. Is this political vision or is it idealism – or is it a doomed-to-fail attempt at bribery?

  • Latimer Alder

    I left school at 17, studied at one of our premier universities for 4 years, achieved a good degree and what many would think of as a very good job. And yet UKIP speaks to me in a way that the Conservatives long ceased to do.

    A couple of years ago I realised that this government views all of the people as ‘The Enemy’.

    We must be nudged, cajoled, persuaded, threatened, prosecuted, fined or imprisoned if we don’t subscribe to their specific notions of how the ideal populace should act. They think of themselves as The Masters and of us as The Serfs destined only to fulfil their will. Our wishes are immaterial.

    UKIP is the only party that works the other way … by finding out what the people want and trying to deliver it. It is an unashamedly populist party. And that is why it does so well in the polls.

    I will be voting for them at GE2015. I urge others to do so too.

    • Swanky

      I think it’s better than just ‘populist’. I dislike populism, generally: it often devolves into demagoguery — a la Ross Perot, among others — and populism is actually partial. I think UKIP to the contrary speaks to the whole of the country, and not just to a noisy massive group.

    • Pacificweather

      Unfortunately, the majority of UKIP supporters voted in May 2011 to prevent them gaining the seats their votes warrant.

      • Foxy Loxy

        What people were being offered was the ‘Alternative Vote’ system. That, please note, is not the system of proportional representation which UKIP support.

        • Pacificweather

          AV ensures the candidate who wins has 50% of the vote. With 4 candidates UKIP could win with the second preference votes and gain more seats than they would under FPTP. UKIP voters did not think it through before rejecting AV. Also, voting for change gives an opportunity for further change. Voting for the status quo gives you no further opportunity for another 30 years.

  • Rillian

    They can’t even claim immigration benefits our economy as there are reports out this month saying it costs us billions.

  • Kennie

    I would like to suggest, at this point, that everyone stops telling them why UKIP is getting so much growing support. Let them bumble on in their ignorance till the very last newspaper/magazine (DT & Speccie) is bought by the very last legacy party supporter.

  • Jean de Valette

    “…a senior Tory strategist was listing the characteristics of Ukip voters: older people, who left school aged 15, who apparently agree with the statement ‘I hardly recognise the country I’m living in any more.’ The Conservatives should listen to such voters, he said, even respect them. But their demands should not be heeded. They represent the past; the modern Tories should be interested in the future.”

    Was this stream of bilge written by Matthew Parris?

    • Al Bowlly

      “The modern Tories should be interested in the future”. The future for the Conservative Party is oblivion.

  • pp22pp

    I have a phD and I am middle-aged. I wouldn’t dare admit to my views in professional circles, but plenty of people I know feel the way I do and admit it in private. We also make up a large share of the Speccie readership. Insult us enough and we will leave. You will then go bankrupt.

    • Wessex Man

      Be brave and shout it from the rooftops!

  • CortexUK

    1. Kick the Social Democrats and anyone with a Common Purpose out of the Conservative Party.
    2. Er…
    3. …that’s it.

  • Nick Sundin

    As a conservative (note the small “c”), I really wish the Tories could form such a platform. But they can’t; the legacy of Blair is that the political landscape of Britain has shifted, not to the left or right, but towards a bigger state that the Tories do not realise they have inherited and are barely eating into. This, combined with the rise of multiculturalism and anti-paternalism brought on by mass immigration and the decline of the married family along with Christian values as a whole, mean that One-Nation Conservatism cannot exist in “modern Britain”. Thus, UKIP do hold the answer, not only in taking back control of the specifics from the EU, but reversing the direction of the change that started in the 1960s and was exacerbated by New Labour. We need to take a leap back to take a step forward, to regain conservatism for Britain.

    • Swanky

      I’m not fond of paternalism but otherwise: yeah.

      • Nick Sundin

        Paternalism in the same sense as social temperance, restraint for moral good (society obviously has to have an overriding set of morals for this to work, underlines the loss of Christianity and what it means for Britain.)

        • Swanky

          Fine: makes sense to me.

  • david green

    well will the Tories never learn the people are sick of people comming to this country and stealing our benefits that we pay for and stealing social houseing and taking jobs that we need for our children……its not about black and white we all pay for the spongers from eastern europe and rest of the world

  • Swanky

    I am LOVING this thread. I’ve never seen English people breathing fire like this before. It’s fantastic (if you’ll pardon the late-modern use of that word). I think the message to the political class and to the world — are you listening, world? — you’d better be! — is NOT DEAD YET. England breathes still, despite all the earnest efforts to suffocate it.

  • Swanky

    Me again. Pow-wow with the poobah of politics at my street address: he said: “The idea that the Republican party would talk down the ‘Tea Party’ — it wouldn’t happen. They’d say: ‘we agree with you 90%, and we support your main enterprise, but on these details we differ’. And anyway, almost every Tea Partier IS a Republican — so they’re working within.”

    I said: ‘Yes, the Tea Party isn’t a party [it’s a movement for limited government and lower taxes, which of course go together].’

    He said: ‘No, that’s right. But what does it mean when the supposed champions of the British way of life, i.e. the Tories, have to attack the challenging and more effective defenders of the British way of life? That’s not a good look, is it? A bit like the Queen asking the mirror who is the fairest of all. And she doesn’t like the answer’.

    And then he said: ‘The Republican Party [of the USA] is the number one defender of freedom and the free way of life in the world today. It alone is what stands between the best that civilization has ever had to offer and a steep decline into poverty, factionalism, violence, and anarchy’.

    And I said: ‘UKIP has the same responsibility in the UK’.

    • Skyeward

      Are you certain he said the Republican Party? I suppose if freedom and free way of life mean crumbling infrastructure, bonding away the futures of our kids and grandkids, removing money out of the public schools and handing it directly to private equity-owned charter school chains, destroying air, soil and water quality, etc., then sure, freedom. Yay.

  • Chingford Man

    Oh dear, your readers really are giving you quite a kicking.

    You people (Fraser, Isabel, James, etc.) are way too close to the Westminster Parasites to see what is happening. You are too dependent on them (a) for lunch
    and (b) for stories to hold them properly to account. The noticeably anti-UKIP slant of your coverage, in the face of your readers’ fury, makes us suspect that your publication and the other wretched Barclay-owned newspaper are in the pocket of the Tories. We think you see your role as representing power to the rest of us. Even the title of this piece suggests it.

    You really do not know what is going on in this country. To be fair, I’m not sure that UKIP fully understands the social, cultural and technological changes that are driving its support ever upward. I think Janet Daley in today’s Telegraph, partially “gets it”. It’s a revolt against cartel politics by closed social elites that ignores ordinary people.

    UKIP is often accused of “populism” but it is actually re-inventing political activity in the sense that politics ought to operate in the interests of ordinary people, not of metropolitan elites. We in UKIP are on the doorsteps running people round one street at a time by standing up for their interests, not representing the interests of others to them. You should read up about Andrew Jackson, the seventh US President, from Ulster stock, and the dynamic concept of “Jacksonian democracy” that still shapes the populist political culture of red state America.

    PS, just what is your problem with Reckless? You say he’s “deeply unimpressive”, but if that was the decisive criterion, you’d back people like Carswell, Kate Hoey,
    Frank Field and practically no one else. Reckless lost Medway in 2005 because of almost 1500 UKIP votes, not because of anything written by the tired and emotional Mr Oborne in a magazine with, frankly, a limited circulation outside SW1.

    • HY

      Fraser Nelson’s once stated that the Speccie wasn’t “a Tory party fanzine.” In very short order “team Speccie” morphed into knicker waving cheerleaders for the Coalition. Since Daniel Korski’s departure it is evident that the others threw themselves into the vacuum.

  • Isage000

    UKIP support is now around 18% nationally, and up to twice that locally around the SE coastal area.

    No way can they be swayed back to the present Euro-stooge Conservatives, especially with Cameron in charge. Forget it. Every time he opens his mouth, another thousand kippers are created.

    He has metaphorically led the Tory pilgrims into Bunyan’s Valley of Humiliation.

  • Pacificweather

    The Tories clearly don’t have the policies. UKIP voters aren’t going to believe any Tory sales pitch. Anyone can see they are the party of the rich not the tradional working class Tory voters, the fortunate thing for the Tories is that most UKIP voters voted to exclude the party from governnment in May 2011.

  • Denim77

    David Cameron and his sham “Conservative” party has nothing to offer anyone. It is indistinguishable from the sham “Labour” Party. They are all the same party, with the same aims.

    • English Aborigine

      It’s a ménage a trois

      Sham marriage, they want the voters to legalise again

  • somewhereinthesouth

    Cameron needs to offer referendum in late 2015 – not 2017. His strategy of wait and negotiate on the EU before a vote isn’t working and wont work – that is now very clear – from recent events in Europe and the past 45 years history. Only the promise of a vote early in the next parliament will now save him from the UKIP scourge … even then people might not trust him since his decisions and policy on the EU seem to have been proven to be at best ineffective and at worst disingenuous . As it is he is saying one thing about the EU but doing nothing [still no list of red lines] ; he is just procrastinating and we know why: he is afraid the public might actually vote to leave. An early vote however would also concentrate the minds of the EU politburo who have no intention of any real reform – they might just might change there time is there is a close vote or a threat of one [ just as Cameron and Brown panicked over the Scots referendum when they thought they might leave the union ]. So we could end up winning either way : with either devo max for the UK or us just leaving.with a free trade deal. And he might get elected by shooting UKIPs fox. Either way the present strategy on EU and referendum is simply not working thats plain to everyone even the most casual voters. .We’ve had the one “last push” and it hasn’t changed anything . Nor has Cameron’s huffing and puffing blown the EU house down. The budget increase is the last straw.

    • Grace Ironwood

      Are Dave’s Red Lines the same as the one that proved so effective for Barry ?

    • Foeu

      I don’t want a referendum I want out.
      Millions of people are stupid enough to continue voting for LibLabCon, how can we be sure that the referendum will produce a majority to get us out of the EU ? It’s not a foregone conclusion unfortunately.

      • somewhereinthesouth

        I agree that leaving loos to be the best option , However as I see it to get out you need the following :
        1. A referendum [ with Cameron campaigning to leave]
        2. A majority voting to leave.
        If Cameron offers one in 2015 then you are half way there. A vote for UKIP might not even guarantee step 1 [ a Labour win or hung parliament is most likely] let alone getting to step 2. So whats your problem? Voting UKIP wont get either.

  • UKIP, Tea Party… et al are uninformed and provincial.

    • Swanky

      Thank you for auditioning. We appreciate your time and have your number on file. Click.

  • chris_xxxx

    Does the author really think the Conservatives could have won Clacton if they had more time?

    The problem for Cameron is that people do not believe him on important topics such as immigration, the EU, defence and energy.

  • S.M. Stirling

    The significant polls in Rochester are the ones that show half the prospective UKIP voters used to vote Labor. Think about that. It means that UKIP can take plenty of seats that the Tories never could. The electoral system works against new parties… until it reaches a tipping point, whereupon it works against one of the -old- parties, which is what happened to the Liberals after 1918.

    • cambridgeelephant

      Sound point there !

  • logdon

    ‘Even now, it’s not too late for that.’

    Oh yes it is!

  • Grace Ironwood

    These Spectator journalists are all utterly conventional Fashionable Young People from London so what do you expect from them, kippers ?

    Honourable exception of Douglas Murray.

  • Simon Jones

    It appears the the Tories are more interested in suppressing free speech and making any views which do not coincide with the LibLabCon view of the world illegal rather than mounting any intellectual challenge to UKIP. The proposals by Theresa May for Extremism Disruption Orders and IPNAS (Injunctions to Prevent Nuisance and Annoyance) should see the silencing and possible imprisonment of anyone who does not agree with her and her LibLab confederates.

  • Bill_der_Berg

    Before any bribes are accepted we need to know if Dave is a man of his word. Let us see if he delivers on the promises he has already made concerning immigration control and defying the EU’s recent demand for more moolah.

  • bengeo

    Tories continue their take over of Ukip.

  • Kit

    Have I woken up and UKIP have now replaced Labour as the Conservative opposition?
    I am yet to see one article confirming Millibands lack of fiscal ability.Or any ability in fact.
    Or as i suspect and is proved by my post. The LibLabCon have closed ranks like all good EU Federalists.

  • Phillip2

    The Conservative Energy Policy is a disaster. It is the same as the Labour one. Only UKIP has a sensible energy policy, not built on the climate change scam that the Conservatives embrace.

  • Oddsbods

    Why fight them, they are right, support them!

  • revkevblue

    How to fight UKIP?
    If you are truly British, why are you fighting UKIP?
    Why do we need to be ruled by another Parliament that is staffed by foreign politicians, who seem to revel in sticking it to us.
    How many time do we have to suffer the barbs and snide remarks from them, about Britain being a yesterday country, and that we are now little Englanders, that we no longer count on the world stage, they tell us that they want us to shut up, and learn our place as a small star on someone else’s flag.
    I have spent many decades as a skilled engineer from a British Firm doing jobs abroad.
    And I am telling you we work harder than the French, and we are just as efficient as the Germans, why do you think they offer us the contracts?
    No matter where I have traveled in this world you will always find a British man working hard and doing a good job and appreciated by the people who work with them.
    I for one have had enough of being shoved into a corner and told we don’t count anymore, that is why I am voting UKIP, and by God we will show them, that as history has shown, underestimate us at your peril.
    Britain finished on the world stage? Don’t make me laugh!

  • Bill_der_Berg

    After reading the attacks on Peter Oborne here, I looked at some of his on-line articles. Some of his remarks must be food and drink to Ukippers. Take this extract from a piece by him in the Telegraph, for instance.

    “The new migrants will be hungry for jobs, and are bound to price some British workers out of the market. They will have the right to use our schools and NHS, which are already creaking. They will need housing, and welfare benefits.

    This is not a selfish Right-wing cause, as some still assert. The British Labour Party, backed by the trade union movement, fought a great, honourable battle in the last century for dignity of labour and fair pay. This is all being lost, thanks in part to the arrival of waves of cheap labour from the east. Big business benefits hugely, and the affluent middle classes get access to cheap domestic help. But there is a cost to the social fabric, and it is always the poor and powerless who pay the highest price.

    The decision will be enforced by anonymous officials and jurists. Without intending to, the European Union is turning into the enemy of democracy.

    David Cameron is reduced to the role of a spectator in a country that he has been elected to govern. Ed Miliband may be Labour leader, but he is an observer as well. Neither politician has tried to defend the influx of migrant workers, which is understandable because it wasn’t their decision. But they can’t attack it either. As a result, an important issue that is likely viscerally to affect the lives of many British citizens has been sucked out of public discourse and the democratic arena”,

  • Robertus Maximus

    How about an article describing how to fight Labour, the LibDems, and the Tories who, collectively, are disfiguring and destroying our once beloved country? We can only deduce that the Spectator is quite content to see Britain further degraded and is determined to see the one remedy available, UKIP, withheld from the dying patient.

  • Peter Stroud

    Unfortunately the Tories are led by a man who has lost the trust of the people. And I am saying this as a lifelong Tory.

  • English Aborigine

    If the government don’t agree with you

    Change the government

    Vote UKIP

  • Penny

    “Only last month, a senior Tory strategist was listing the
    characteristics of Ukip voters: older people, who left school aged 15…..”

    Oh dear.

    Context matters here. Those who left school aged 15 belong to an era in which the standard of education was higher and young people rather more mature than they appear to be today. The percentage of people who went to university back than was considerably lower ( perhaps 12%) – not because today’s young are more intelligent than their parents and grandparents, but because a) the quest for a clutch of qualifications was not government policy and b) many undertook apprenticeships or in-house training (three accountants of my acquaintance trained in this fashion). This was simply the way of things then and, as far as I can tell, the UK did not suffer for its lack of GCSE-toting population.

    I am not of this era myself but know plenty who are and I am surprised that the norms of society as it was then have been overlooked by a “senior Tory strategist”.

    • Chingford Man

      “senior Tory strategist” – some kid from a private school and Oxbridge, now working for Policy Exchange (etc.), looking for a safe Tory seat in 2020. Otherwise known as a “waste of space”.

  • How I was able to get my husband back from those home breaker

    Am Linda Henrik i was married to my husband for 5 years we were living happily together for this years and not until he traveled to England for a business trip where he met this girl and since then he hate me and the kids and love her only. so when my husband came back from the trip he said he does not want to see me and my kids again so he drove us out of the house and he was now going to Italy to see that other woman. so i and my kids were now so frustrated and i was just staying with my mum and i was not be treating good because my mother got married to another man after my father death so the man she got married to was not treating her well, i and my kids where so confuse and i was searching for a way to get my husband back home because i love and cherish him so much so one day as i was browsing on my computer i saw a testimony about this spell caster Dr Brave testimonies shared on the internet by a lady and it impress me so much i also think of give it a try. At first i was scared but when i think of what meand my kids are passing through so i contact him and he told me to stay calm for just 48 hours that my husband shall come back to me and to my best surprise i received a call from my husband on the second day asking after the kids and i called Dr Brave and he said your problems are solved my child. so this was how i get my family back after a long stress of brake up by an evil lady so with all this help from Dr Brave , i want you all on this forum to join me to say a huge thanks to Dr Brave , and i will also advice for any one in such or similar problems or any kind of problems should also contact him his email is )(bravespellcaster@gmail.com)he is the solution to all your problems and predicaments in life. once again his email address is (bravespellcaster@gmail.com,or kindly visit he Website: http://enchantedscents.tripod.com/lovespell/)

    HE IS SPECIALIZE IN THE THE FOLLOWING SPELL.
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    (2) if you always have bad dreams.
    (3) You want to be promoted in your office.
    (4) You want women/men to run after you.
    (5) If you want a child.
    (6) You want to be rich.
    (7) You want to tie your husband/wife to be yours forever.
    (8) If you need financial assistance.
    (9) if you want your wishes to be granted.
    (10)if you want to stop your divorce.
    (11)if you want to divorce your husband.
    once again the Email address : bravespellcaster@gmail.com contact him immediately. ,,.

  • English Aborigine

    When are you going to let Matthew Parris – aka Ruprecht

    Out of the North Tower

    He might have some ideas on fighting with UKIP

    • Wessex Man

      Can’t wait to take on that piece of work!

  • Alltaxationistheft

    The spectator has yet to establish any good reasons as to why we should wish to fight UKIP.

  • sarahsmith232

    ‘They represent the past; the modern Tories should be interested in the future.’
    This Tory strategist wouldn’t happen to a former 20something product of the naïve 1990s, would they? These ‘modern’ Tories are stuck in a 90s ‘progressive’ liberal time warp. They’re all 1990s Blairite New Labour clones, zero connection to society, so zero understanding of what kind of effects all these ‘progressive’ policies were responsible for. And they’re all going around calling that modern!!!????

  • How I was able to get my husband back from those home breaker

    Am Linda Henrik i was married to my husband for 5 years we were living happily together for this years and not until he traveled to England for a business trip where he met this girl and since then he hate me and the kids and love her only. so when my husband came back from the trip he said he does not want to see me and my kids again so he drove us out of the house and he was now going to Italy to see that other woman. so i and my kids were now so frustrated and i was just staying with my mum and i was not be treating good because my mother got married to another man after my father death so the man she got married to was not treating her well, i and my kids where so confuse and i was searching for a way to get my husband back home because i love and cherish him so much so one day as i was browsing on my computer i saw a testimony about this spell caster Dr Brave testimonies shared on the internet by a lady and it impress me so much i also think of give it a try. At first i was scared but when i think of what meand my kids are passing through so i contact him and he told me to stay calm for just 48 hours that my husband shall come back to me and to my best surprise i received a call from my husband on the second day asking after the kids and i called Dr Brave and he said your problems are solved my child. so this was how i get my family back after a long stress of brake up by an evil lady so with all this help from Dr Brave , i want you all on this forum to join me to say a huge thanks to Dr Brave , and i will also advice for any one in such or similar problems or any kind of problems should also contact him his email is )(bravespellcaster@gmail.com)he is the solution to all your problems and predicaments in life. once again his email address is (bravespellcaster@gmail.com,or kindly visit he Website: http://enchantedscents.tripod.com/lovespell/)

    HE IS SPECIALIZE IN THE THE FOLLOWING SPELL.
    1) If you want your ex back.
    (2) if you always have bad dreams.
    (3) You want to be promoted in your office.
    (4) You want women/men to run after you.
    (5) If you want a child.
    (6) You want to be rich.
    (7) You want to tie your husband/wife to be yours forever.
    (8) If you need financial assistance.
    (9) if you want your wishes to be granted.
    (10)if you want to stop your divorce.
    (11)if you want to divorce your husband.

    once again the Email address : bravespellcaster@gmail.com contact him immediately.

  • How I was able to get my husband back from those home breaker,,

    My name is Karen Barry and am From California,United States ,i am hear to give testimony of how i got back my husband, we got married for more than 9 years and have gotten two kids. thing were going well with us and we are always happy. until one day my husband started to behave in a way i could not understand, i was very confused by the way he treat me and the kids. later that month he did not come home again and he called me that he want a divorce, i asked him what have i done wrong to deserve this from him, all he was saying is that he want a divorce that he hate me and do not want to see me again in his life, i was mad and also frustrated do not know what to do,i was sick for more than 2 weeks because of the divorce. i love him so much he was everything to me without him my life is incomplete. i told my sister and she told me to contact a spell caster, i never believe in all this spell casting of a thing. i just want to try if something will come out of it. i contacted for the return of my husband to me, they told me that my husband have been taken by another woman, that she cast a spell on him that is why he hate me and also want us to divorce.then they told me that they have to cast a spell on him that will make him return to me and the kids, they casted the spell and after 2 days my husband called me and he told me that i should forgive him, he started to apologize on phone and said that he still love me that he did not know what happen to him that he left me. it was the spell that Dr Brave casted on him that make him comeback to me today,me and my family are now happy again today. thank you Dr Brave for what you have done for me i would have been nothing today if not for your great spell. i want you my friends who are passing through all this kind of love problem of getting back their husband, wife , or ex boyfriend, ex lover and girlfriend to contact Dr Brave with this via EMAIL:bravespellcaster@gmail.com or kindly visit he website http://enchantedscents.tripod.com/lovespell/ , and you will see that your problem will be solved without any delay.

    • Chingford Man

      Can the voodoo-monger please cast a spell on the Tory Party so it loses 25+ seats to UKIP. Thank you from all of Britain.

  • Sean L

    But why *should* we fight Ukip? You assume blind loyalty to the Conservatives. But that’s precisely what’s at issue. Otherwise there shouldn’t *be* a Ukip. And if the readers’ comments are anything to go by, and what better index of opinion could there be, I reckon there are at least as many who’d sooner see the Conservatives lose to Ukip. . .

  • Mary Ann

    What about the £2bn that Wales is getting from the EU, the media prefer negative stories.

  • p bavington

    promises are all we hear from Labour and the Conservatives we are all feedup with them, they couldn’t care how many immigrants come her, they have no intention to get out the EU, lies, lies and more lies that all we get, so why not have a change, UKIP couldn’t do any worse.

  • lojolondon

    “Some time ago, Cameron dismissed Nigel Farage’s supporters as ‘fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists’ — a slur he later retracted.” – Really?? I do not believe he has ever retracted that comment – proof please!

  • lojolondon

    Who wrote this article – why so modest? Just because it is utter garbage? Do you think that people who are worried about the state of our country and our democracy want to see “proof” from Cast-Iron Dave about the “triple-lock” on pensions? Rediculous – we all know that when the EU decides to take all our pensions in the future then our submissive LibLabCon will hand over – the same as they are going to hand over the £1,7Billion they have been instructed to – just watch.

    I hope that then you will have the courage to admit publicly in the Spectator that you are wrong, wrong, wrong on every count.

  • Ukip tottie

    why would we fight UKIP, stupid?

  • disqus_XVbpeZ156A

    If you want voters to believe in you, tell the truth, the truth does not need selling, only agenda setting policies, such as gay marriage need to be sold.

  • Sam_Beresford

    This was a pretty fair article, apart from the jibe at Mark Reckl

  • TESTIMONY OF HOW I GOT MY LOVER BACK AFTER A DIVORCE

    An amazing testimony on a spell caster who brought my husband back to me.. My name is Natasha Johnson,i live in ENGLAND, UNITED KINGDOM,and I’m happily married to a lovely and caring husband ,with two kids.A very big problem occurred in my family seven months ago,between me and my husband .so terrible that he took the case to court for a divorce.he said that he never wanted to stay with me again,and that he didn’t love me anymore.So he packed out of the house and made me and my children passed through severe pain. I tried all my possible means to get him back,after much begging,but all to no avail.and he confirmed it that he has made his decision,and he never wanted to see me again. So on one evening,as i was coming back from work,i met an old friend of mine who asked of my husband .So i explained every thing to him,so he told me that the only way i can get my husband back,is to visit a spell caster,because it has really worked for him too.So i never believed in spell,but i had no other choice,than to follow his advice. Then he gave me the email address of the spell caster whom he visited.{bravespellcaster@gmail.com }. So the next morning,i sent a mail to the address he gave to me,and the spell caster assured me that i will get my husband back the next day.What an amazing statement!! I never believed,so he spoke with me,and told me everything that i need to do. Then the next morning, So surprisingly, my husband who didn’t call me for the past seven {7}months,gave me a call to inform me that he was coming back.So Amazing!! So that was how he came back that same day,with lots of love and joy,and he apologized for his mistake,and for the pain he caused me and my children. Then from that day,our relationship was now stronger than how it were before,by the help of a spell caster. So, i will advice you out there to kindly visit the same website { http://enchantedscents.tripod.com/lovespell/},if you are in any condition like this,or you have any problem related to “bringing your ex back. So thanks to the Dr Brave for bringing back my husband ,and brought great joy to my family once again. {bravespellcaster@gmail.com }, Thanks..

  • hotpig

    UKIP has many faults, but at least it tells the truth on Mass Immigration and the EU. In contrast we get lies and posturing from the Conservatives.
    All this article boils down to is that voters should be fed more lies and posturing on issues like mass immigration and the EU (because the election is close), but push that the Tories help pensioners and the NHS to placate these troublesome voters – while mass immigration carries on regardless when the Tories get into government again, as they are born to do so.

    ‘Immigration will be cut to the tens of thousands’
    ‘Cameron pledges cast iron guarantee on Lisbon Treaty’

    Before every election we get the same lies. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. All I can say is even with the English Parliament, many Tory MPs will have their neck on the chopping block.

  • The Tories need a good kicking to replace the posh boys with technocrats. This UKIP shower are just the outfit to do it. As they are taking equal number of Labour votes, there’s no danger of a default Wallace and Gromit government.

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