Politics

The EU referendum has shown us the real David Cameron

28 May 2016

9:00 AM

28 May 2016

9:00 AM

Westminster has a tendency to get ahead of itself. MPs want to discuss the aftermath of an event long before it has happened. They play never-ending games of ‘What if?’ At the moment, the political class cannot stop discussing, in great detail, what the post-EU referendum political landscape will look like. The speculation is, in and of itself, part of the political process. Much of the talk of the post-vote challenges facing David Cameron is intended to persuade him to pull his punches in the final weeks of the campaign.

What no one disputes is that the Prime Minister will find governing even harder after 23 June. His majority is already thin and he has had to U-turn on a host of policies since the election. After such a bitterly fought referendum, a handful of Tory MPs will take every opportunity to obstruct Cameron and Osborne’s legislative agenda. It will be very difficult for the government to get anything controversial through the Commons. One member of the payroll vote predicts ‘a zombie parliament’, with hardly any bills being passed. No. 10 is aware of this danger. Its plan, I gather, is to start thinking and acting like a minority government, working out how to do as much as possible without the need to pass laws or win votes in Parliament.

The EU referendum has already told us a lot about the country’s senior politicians, revealing what really motivates them. This does not happen in general elections because party loyalty, and the need to defeat the opposition, keeps the show on the road. And it has, perhaps, told us more about David Cameron than it has about anyone else. Take his decision to promise the referendum. His friend and former adviser Steve Hilton describes this as his throwing Britain a lifeline to escape the sinking EU. But it turns out that the Prime Minister saw the referendum as an exercise in pragmatic party management rather than an attempt to secure radical reform. At every opportunity Cameron has emphasised the risks of leaving. During the election campaign, he declared that ‘taking a risk, having a punt, having a go: that pumps me up’. But the Cameron we see now uses ‘risk’ only as a pejorative.

One Remain-supporting cabinet minister remarks that the referendum has revealed a divide between ‘people of government and more oppositional types’. Cameron himself is the consummate man of government. Tellingly, the iconoclasts whome he has allowed into his inner circle over the years — Hilton and Michael Gove — are for Leave. Without their influence, he has been a far more conventional, establishment politician. His arguments are not notably different from the one we hear from the grand panjandrums who dominate the Britain Stronger in Europe board. It looks as if this approach will win him the referendum. But it is not likely to deliver the type of victory that would settle the question for a generation.


The referendum has also told us something important about Jeremy Corbyn: he too is a more pragmatic politician than people realise. Corbyn is a Bennite, and as such has been hostile to the European project for his whole political career. But as leader, he has dutifully gone along with Labour’s pro-EU line. This shows he is not a political purist; he knows that he can only afford to take on his MPs when he feels sure he has the party membership behind him.

Someone unafraid to cross many of his own MPs is George Osborne. The Chancellor has campaigned vigorously for Remain, using the full force of the Treasury at every opportunity. This isn’t how you would behave if you were interested only in currying favour with your MPs, almost half of whom are for Leave. Indeed, Osborne’s passionate defence of the EU does rather confound the caricature of him as a Machiavelli who cares only for his own advancement.

His conviction that EU membership is vital stems from his belief that size matters. He argues that the EU’s size means it can make a difference both in terms of trade and sanctions. One of those closest to him puts it differently, arguing that in the modern world ‘teams matter’ and Britain’s influence is maximised through its membership of international institutions. So if the UK wants to stop the Chinese setting the rules of the global economy, it needs to stay in the EU, as well as the Chinese-created Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank. ‘Got to be at the party,’ explains this confidant.

Theresa May has ended up in the pro-EU camp, but she is almost the definition of a ‘reluctant Remainer’. In the speech setting out her position she spent as much time on what is wrong with the EU as what is right, and she has hardly campaigned at all. By keeping a low profile she has attracted less ire than almost any other senior Tory Remainer.

Then there are the politicians prepared to defy the consensus (and the odds) and back Leave, knowing they are more likely to end up on the losing side. Michael Gove is the most senior member of the government to have done this, confirming his status as the leading conviction politician of our age. The more surprising Brexit campaigner is Boris Johnson. Cameron has implied that Boris is leading the Leave effort for reasons of personal ambition, rather than the national interest. But this fails to acknowledge that the former London mayor wanted a fundamentally reformed EU, only to find that it was not on offer. But has he made that point effectively? When one friend chided him recently for managing to make a principled decision look disingenuous, Boris did not bother arguing back. His decision to back Leave also demonstrates his willingness to defy the received wisdom. He has a journalist’s suspicion of the broad consensus. He also seems to enjoy being on the side of the underdog. Addressing crowds in town squares suits him better than talking to chief executives in ritzy venues.

So this referendum means that the Tory membership will know a lot more about the candidates to be the party’s next leader than they did in the 2005 contest. But no one yet knows what qualities those members will be looking for in their next leader.

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  • beenzrgud

    Cameron and his cronies have been revealed to be a thoroughly dishonest bunch. I’m guessing no matter what they do after the referendum the Conservative party is haemorrhaging votes at an unprecedented rate, and most will go to UKIP.

    • Jingleballix

      The politicians think that they have us ALL in the bag…….a full-on politico-corporate stitch-up.

      Look at who is endorsing REMAIN……..CON, LAB, LIB-DEM and SNP.

      Is this the first time EVER that these parties have been united in their approach to an issue?

      Corbyn agrees with Cameron?!? Farron agrees with Osborne………just WHAT is going on?

      I say……..’over my dead body’.

      • Luckily this is their weakness: most Labour won’t vote Remain with Cameron spouting off. Half the Conservative voters are left gob-smacked at the utter tripe DC is spouting (him along with ALL the other Remainiacs) and all UKIP will be voting Leave. I make that about 15 million “Leave” on a GE turn-out.

        • Stan Getback

          Not very reassuring though, considering that the amount of people who are eligible to vote is around 40 million, :-(((

          • yeoman

            ‘…eligible…’
            If 70% actually vote, that = 28 million.
            If ‘Leavers’ are more energetic than ‘Remainers’, then Span Ows has cause for hope.

          • Stan Getback

            Just hope you’re right.

          • yeoman

            GE turn-out

            Election Year UK England

            2015 … 66.1% … 65.8%

            2010 … 65.1% … 65.5%

            2005 … 61.4% … 61.3%

            2001 … 59.4% … 59.2%

            But beware of the postal vote!

  • sebastian2

    Cameron has shown himself ready to say anything to get something, and ready to say anything to get out of something. I would not buy a private pension scheme from this man.

    • licjjs

      One might have asked the used car salesman that Cameron was photographed with the other day whether, if the roles were reversed, he would buy a used car from Cameron.

  • jack

    The sad truth is the revelation that Cameron is a happy liar..

  • Lothlórien
    • sparrow-hawk

      Cameron is not delusional; he is a NWO Globalist Corporatist Banker mouthpiece. God knows what they have on him, but it must be something dire.

      • 22-11-63

        You do not become PM unless you are in-bed with the Bilderbergers/the Globalists, Cameron, Brown, Blair, Major et al….as Peter Hitchins rightly says, at the top, there is now know difference between our two main parties…

      • Lothlórien

        It’s more of what his family, friends and business acquaintances have on him – they’re mostly all profiteering from the EU in some way.

      • Philip Fraser

        That’s exactly right , that’s what I’ve been saying,see my previous posts, he must be being blackmailed, absoluetly no other explanation for his desperately panicking bizarre outbursts

    • yeoman

      The other year he was talking about an EU stretching from the Atlantic to the Urals. A bit provocative to Putin, I thought.

      ‘David Cameron has said the EU should extend its membership deeper into the former Soviet Union, calling for its borders to run from the Atlantic to the Urals.
      ‘Speaking in the former Soviet republic of Kazakhstan on the day that former Yugoslav republic Croatia became the EU’s 28th member state, the prime minister hailed the power of the EU to transform divided societies.’ Guardian 1 July 2013.

  • Ingmar Blessing

    I still have the feeling, Cameron is only for a Remain because he cannot be against it as an MP. It contradicts with the raison d’etre of his position, if he was for Leave.

    Overall the Remain campaigners seem a lot like as if they don’t handle their side as a matter of the heart, but more as a matter out of duty.

    • Richard Lally

      It is to do with emotion. You cannot get as worked up about “on balance we are better off in” as you can about “Brussels is a hideous monster determined to destroy Europe, especially England”.

      • Ingmar Blessing

        I agree, in direct comparison, Remain is about rationality and therefore has a bit of a disadvantage.

        A Remain eager PM would have shown some compassion in Brussels and fought for real reform of the Union. But Cameron kind of .. didn’t.

        There’s a million things to do, small and big, quick and long-term, easy and difficult and there are so many allies for each one of the issues. Impart it’s just a matter of no-one addressing something or a matter not having a sponsor who pushes it forward that things don’t get done.

        Take corruption, EU money fraud and money laundering by moving it over the next border, which happens everywhere and everyday. It would be so easy to set up an anti-corruption commissioner on EU level with big guns to put some serious sweat on the fraudsters in the tirangle Athens, Rome, Bukarest. Why are they not doing that?

        Another example: German veteran politician Edmund Stoiber (former PM of Bavaria) was appointed as efficiency officer (or something like that) in Brussles and since he’s real nerd on that, capable of working trough piles of papers, he came up with a dozens of easily applicable measures that would save the EU economy some 100bn Euro per year.

        What has been done so far about it? Nothing! Cameron should have teamed up with sharp knives like Stoiber and others from the continent and build up some serious competent pressure on the bureaucracy and then push through one thing after the other.

        Therefore I cannot believe, he hasn’t reached anything. A really compassionate Remain PM would have loudmouthed through Brussels, pissed off Jucker and Kapo Schulz and gotten them to get things done on the spot. (just imagine Cameron talking to the two EU specialists as he has done it with Boris in the parliament..)

        This way, though my impression remains: He has to do it, but there’s no heart involved.

        • HJ777

          Which begs the question: If Remain are about rationality, why are so many of their claims about what will happen if we leave the EU so completely irrational (war, huge hit to GDP, world recession, etc.)? They can hardly believe this stuff.

          • Ingmar Blessing

            I can only guess: It’s because the textbook says, that you have the best chance of getting through to the voters / consumers, if you connect the issue of your interest with a certain emotion that suits your agenda.

            In this case: Leave = Change = Uncertainty = Fear.

          • HJ777

            You are probably right.

            I think they’ve worked out that people aren’t very keen on a lot of things about the EU and that they may lose if they argue on these grounds. Therefore they are producing exaggerated scare stories especially about the economy (most reasoned assessments seem to think the impact of Brexit on the economy will be pretty small and may be either positive or negative).

        • diqi

          A good comment. The influence of our representatives in the EU must be judged by the results and they don’t appear to have a chieved much, at least for our benefit. This is what has reinforced my view since 1975 that we should leave.

        • Richard Lally

          You make very good points Ingmar.
          Sadly, with Britain constantly insisting on opt-outs and special treatment (Britain: spoilt brat of Europe) we don’t have much credit when it comes to arguing for general reform.

          • Opting out is the only way to make sure the EU craziness does not affect us.

            Opt out completely in June!

        • Frank

          Yes, but he is like that about Britain and Britain’s problems, We call it the all mouth and no trousers (other variants available) syndrome.

    • Philip Fraser

      Isn’t it obvious they are being blackmailed or threatened by some very powerful supra-national force or group of people….picture of the ‘pig’s head’ incident anyone…

      • Ingmar Blessing

        That could be of course. But I’m not sure if it is blackmail, or just influence to a degree, where they believe it themselves.

        I remember FN politician Florian Philippot, who went through the ENA elite system and was top of his class and who is now LePens no1, saying in an interview, that everyone in the French elite system is obsessed with open borders and supra-national decision making. They all have the same opinions on everything, are totally streamlined.

        I’m very sure, someone or groups with certain interests who can back them with enough money try to influence them on various levels. When you’re in the top 0,1% you surely receive a lot of offers for free seminars, books, consultations etc. I doubt that’s all about work-life yoga balance.

        Just imagine you’re 22 and are part of the chosen one’s for the career turbo-elevator. Or just look at young football players and how they get compromised.

  • Richard Lally

    When I was working in Paris I was quite proud of the fact that many of my French colleagues considered me “OK for an Englishman”. Well I would like to say, given all the vitriol aimed at Mr Cameron by his own party, that I think DC is a pretty decent chap for a Tory.
    Nevertheless I believe he should stand down after the referendum whatever the result because it will not be healthy to have a PM who is hated by half his own party.
    I hope (and therefore it will probably not happen) that Theresa May becomes the new leader mainly because I believe she would be a very good PM but also because she is one of the few politicians who has not been saying lots of stupid things lately.

    • sparrow-hawk

      She’s rubbish. We need David Davis back. He was her predecessor as (shadow) Home Secretary, and the difference is chalk & cheese. SHE wants us to stay locked into the EUSSR, he wants out.

      • lms2

        I think many Conservative members are kicking themselves now for not having voted for Davis. Things could be looking a whole lot different, and a lot less insane, if he was the Tory leader and PM, rather than that snake, Cameron.

        • Malcolm Stevas

          He always seemed sort of okay-ish to me but I just have doubts about how much depth there is to Davis – admittedly, he’s not as shallow as DC.

        • Philip Fraser

          They voted for Cameron, you get what you deserve.

    • tenbelly

      ‘.. I think DC is a pretty decent chap for a Tory.’
      Damned by faint praise.
      I’d rather he b***ered off and flogged second hand cars though, he’d be good at that.

      • Frank

        Does he mean that all Tories are utter snakes, etc?

        • sparrow-hawk

          All who support “remain”, certainly.

    • Nick

      Richard I used to have the same opinion as you regarding Mrs.May but I’ve lost it with her now.

      Her repeated claims that islam is the religion of peace and her most recent claim that there are too many white fire officers has left me seething.

      She used to be the girl for me but she’s revealed herself as just another self serving PC luvvie.

    • Frank

      Mrs May hasn’t said much of late, but some of it has been fairly stupid. Furthermore, she is not serving her country if she is not expressing her genuine views on the referendum. She has been a very poor paid of hands at the Home Office, so why expect better if she were appointed PM post Cameron?

      • Trailblazer10

        Fairly stupid is an improvement for the Surrender Secretary.

        • Frank

          Yes but I was trying to be polite.

    • Euravinalaugh

      You set the bar for yourself so low that it’s not a surprise you think Cameron is a “decent chap”, you can’t buy that level of stupid.

  • enoch arden

    That’s true. A Guy Fawkes.

  • Pretty_Polly

    Hello,

    My name is David Cameron of Brussels and Panama and my aim is to destroy Britain as you know and love it.

    That is why I have admitted over 750,000 migrants and asylum seekers in the last 12 months alone, why I support Turkey’s entry into the EU and why I have done virtually nothing to stop illegals entering the country and remaining forever. I will of course repeat these policies this year and every year during my premiership.

    Up and down the country, I am told that my plans are working perfectly as people find they are becoming ‘Strangers Where They Live’ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/9831912/I-feel-like-a-stranger-where-I-live.html and I am delighted my Defence Minister, Michael Fallon, has told me that our towns and cities are being enrichingly ‘swamped with immigrants’ http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/26/british-towns-swamped-immigrants-michael-fallon-eu

    As the ‘Heir to Blair’ and Blairmore, I am proud to be continuing the pro immigration policies adopted by my close friends in the Labour Party and to be able to develop such ideas to extinguish ‘Britishness’ wherever it may be found. That is why I have abolished many of the planning rules in order to build huge anonymous new towns and cities in what was the monocultural and unenriched English countryside http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/16/plans-for-thousands-of-new-homes-threaten-green-belt-areas/

    I will soon be holding the long awaited confirmation of my views and opinions that Britain should remain an EU member forever and I will personally ensure that the Remain campaign is full of lies, threats and propaganda to obtain the highly desirable Remain outcome, thereby wiping the floor with a blonde haired mop. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson

    As you will understand from the foregoing, I am extremely excited about the forthcoming abolition of Britain and ‘Britishness’ by my friends in the European Union who have assured me that a new name has already been decided for these very small inconsequential islands..

    Consequently, to further the re-writing of British history and the destruction of British traditions, they have chosen ‘EU Sector North West’ which must now be written below your postcode or your mail will no longer be delivered.

    God Save The President of the EU Commission ! Rule Jean Claude Juncker !

    Yours sincerely

    David Cameron

    Governor General EU NW – Designate.

    • Lo Bin Sun

      Brilliant, Polly. Have you ever thought of delivering this, in person, to No.10?

      • John

        Better still ; have you ever thought of occupying No 10. ?

      • The_Missing_Think

        “So the choice was Labour/SNP or the dreaded Dave

        Of the two I preferred to vote for Dave.”

        Pretty_Polly 18 April 2016.

        You fools never learn.

    • Yorkman99

      Yes I’m David Cameron. I’m rich so screw the rest of you.

  • Bill Brinsmead

    Young Jimmy implies that David Cameron and George Osborne think winning the EU referendum is more important than their futures in the Tory Party.

    I think he’s right.

    • Frank

      ….or than maintaining a number of cherished customs, eg civil service impartiality, honesty in politics, political ethics, etc.

    • Philip Fraser

      Or the well-being and democracy of their country and fellow citizens….what is it they are being threatened with and by who, in order to make the increasingly desperate and preposterous arguments to keep is in the EU,they seem not to care what it does to their Party, Country or even their own careers as long as we stay in this clearly corrupt and damaging organisation…I say again, there must be a much more sinister agenda behind the EU and our PM ‘s panicking desperation to keep us in at all costs….doesn’t the word ‘blackmail’ come to anyone else’s mind…

  • Bill Fitzgerald

    Treacherous, dishonest ,bullying, prepared to stand nodding in agreement next to foreign leaders whilst they threaten us, more of a leftie/ liberal than a conservative. The more I hear and see of this snake oil salesman the more I hate him. Blair was odious Cameron is all that and useless to boot.

    • Lady Magdalene

      I never thought I could loathe a PM as much as Blair.

      Cameron proved me wrong.

      • sparrow-hawk

        Many of us, MANY of us, have had the same experience. In fact “loathe” or “detest” or “despise” are all inadequate words. We feel much like the revolutionaries who down the ages have suffered under the oppression of arrogant corrupt rulers, and have found the bottommost of emotions becoming uppermost in their hearts – HATE.

  • Malcolm Stevas

    I claim no special powers of insight but really, my views of Cameron have changed barely at all since I first took much notice of him some time before the 2010 General Election! I thought he was an essentially shallow man, a PR flack, a social democrat posing as a Conservative, a man with little in the way of identifiable convictions. I still think this.

    • Nick

      I have the same opinions of Cameron as you Malcolm.Once upon a time when he was leader of the opposition he tore into Gordon Brown during PMQs and made me think that he had some substance to him.

      It may have been that time when Cameron compared Brown to Stalin.I loved it,but it has turned to be a sham as all Cameron is,is a weak leftie and is no more a Tory than I am an astronaut.

      Cameron has been a major let down for me.

      • 100

        Everh PM since and including Major has been a let down

        • Aberrant_Apostrophe

          65 (or 80 if you believe supermarket data) to choose from, and we get numpties. Still, could be worse – we could have 450 million to choose from, like the Yanks.

        • Nick

          Too true and I despair when I look at our present PM with his grovelling and sniveling attitude towards the EU.

    • Sir Johnny Foreigner

      A pink Tory

      • Marvin

        I know exactly what you mean Ducky.

    • M P Jones

      Agree – the Cameron/Osborne combo caused me to leave the Tories and vote UKIP. Neither of the two will ever get my vote.

    • 22-11-63

      Your right, he is not a Conservative, he is in fact a Blairite….

    • GoJebus

      Well said. Shallow just about describes him. He is as shallow as a flake of dandruff, and about as useful.

  • jeffersonian

    ‘The EU referendum has shown us the real David Cameron’

    Yes: nasty, dishonest, dishonourable and incapable of a single strategic thought – everything is short-term tactics.

    • iand

      You forgot closet Marxist.

  • Sir Johnny Foreigner

    The pink Tories for Europe lol

  • Frank

    This article is a lovely bit of white-washing mixed with sitting on the fence. I realise that you cannot say this, but if any in Downing Street think that either Cameron or Osborne can stay in power post the referendum (whatever the result) they are dreaming. I suspect that Cameron is smart enough to have worked this out, and Osborne has fallen into a kind of après-moi-le-deluge willingness to use a scorched earth policy.

    • antoncheckout

      The irony is that the youngsters Cameron is trying to get out of bed to vote Remain haven’t realized that Osborne is shafting their futures with the sheer amount of public and private borrowing he’s been pushing like a crack dealer.

    • sparrow-hawk

      Cameron knew years ago what his future role would be – he serves the Globalist NWO Bilderbergers, for whom Britain’s subjugation to the EUSSR is of PARAMOUNT importance (we leave, their dreams unravel). He has shown clearly by his utterly irrational and literally treasonous lies that he is in their grip, and does not worry about his own future; he knows that he has served his masters as demanded, and like Blair & the disgusting slug Merkel, will move on to a comfortable after-life.

  • Fraser Bailey

    Yes, and even I have shocked by just how evil ‘the real David Cameron’ is. For years I gave him he benefit of the doubt (a benefit I did not extend to Osborne. How wrong I was. Well, at least I never voted for him so my conscience is clear, just as my conscience is clear with regard to Blair.

  • kitten

    This EU referendum has told me a lot about politicians, journalists, media outlets and celebrities.

    The sheer volume of insincere, untrustworthy, greedy, selfish and underhandedness of the remain camp will stay with me.

    Their campaign is based on lies, such as the £48000 the EU is suppose to benefit each household by. The EUs legislation has increased food and energy costs through their diktats, encourages privatisation and wage suppression. The majority of us are poorer as a result of the EU.

    Osborne has taken a figure of the richest in our society who are the only real winners of the EU and divided their huge profits by each household.

    Mostly I will never forgive people for campaigning to give away the little democracy we have left.

  • Marathon-Youth

    The EU is dying. BREXIT is one of a thousand cuts that will kill it. Whether Great Britain stays or not the issue of dismantling the EU is now a central issue. From Muslim/African asylum seekers to the power of Brussels (Capital of the EU) the problems created by the EU will lead many European nations to seek an exit out of it.

    • Trailblazer10

      The imposed demographic changes make that unlikely.

    • Bonce

      They will not be allowed to Leave and the EU army will have men on the ground to ensure they do not Leave…Democracy is a thing of the past, according to the French and German Socialists running the EU

  • Brian Jones

    Cameron is one of the few MPs who has actually stuck with his beliefs even being willing to risk his own position whereas Corbyn has quite happily thrown away his 32 years of opposition to the EU to ensure that he retains his position as leader of the most divided party in British politics being made up of mainly people who have never had a real job outside politics and are prepared to support things they don’t believe in as long as they keep in the party’s good books.

    • davidofkent

      I think your first proposition is incorrect. IMHO, Cameron has no beliefs, politically. He once said he would vote for leaving an unreformed EU. So, where are the reforms? He said he would reduce net immigration to the tens of thousands, yet has done nothing to achieve it, including sacking Theresa May. He is a charlatan. The fact that Corbyn is merely a third-rate back-bencher does nothing to enhance Cameron’s credibility.

  • Sir Derek Trotter OBE

    The pink Tories led by Cameron stand in the yellow corner like the miserable 24 carat, diamond plated, pearl encrusted plonkers they really are.

  • antoncheckout

    What it’s shown is Camerborne’s naked will to cling to power, and to do nothing of importance with it except for self-enrichment.
    (As for the headline -“what truly motives them” –
    Have you borrowed a sub-editor from the Telegraph?)

  • Three chords & the truth

    I see and hear the news everyday and am ever more incredulous that the remain camp is leading in the polls and know it will definitely win even if they need the bogus Postal Votes a’ la Austria. I can only think Turkeys voting for Christmas.I signed the online position saying that in the event of a Leave Vote Cameron should be excluded from exit negotiations. I got a response from the Government explaining how we are better off in the EU that Goebbels would have been proud of. This referendum campaign has revealed the true colours of the ruling elite.

    • antoncheckout

      Yes, I noticed that too. Impudent puppy that he is, not addressing the question at all and merely pumping out more denialist propaganda is his idea of a strategy. Despite the Reuters report yesterday that there was doubt in EU circles whether Cameron as a caretaker PM would actually be legally entitled to deliver an Art. 50 government declaration to Brussels after a Brexit vote.

    • NeilMc1

      If we vote to stay it will be “Christians voting for Turkey!!”

      • 100

        Yo!

    • Philip Fraser

      No way is Remain winning don’t you worry.

  • Sir Derek Trotter OBE

    David ‘dodgy and podgy’ Cameron has earned himself a chicken neck for his efforts by the look of the photo above. Lubbly jubbly!

  • davidblameron

    The Prime Minister has revealed himself to be the true patriot that he is, out there on the crease batting and battling for Britain.

    • Bill Fitzgerald

      Like Boycott batting for himself and out for duck.

    • John Carins

      Botham ready to rip out his middle stump.

  • John Carins

    The majority of Tory voters will vote “out”. What right has Cameron to lead this party? He and the remainers do not reflect the wishes of the majority of its supporters. This same dynamic exists in the Labour party. The majority of PLP MPs do not reflect the mass of active Labour voters. The reasons for remaining in Toryland – the continuation of capitalism through huge corporate interests is the opposite of Labour’s requirement – the furtherance of a socialist agenda. They can’t both be right. One or both sides is making a big mistake.

    • Malcolm Stevas

      His “right” is that they voted for him to be leader… Further evidence that post-Thatcher the Tories have been imploding in slow motion. Time for them to wrap things up, I’ve felt for some time.

      • John Carins

        Unfortunately like the Labour lot they are like cockroaches and able to survive a nuclear war.

    • sparrow-hawk

      It’s the Left that is making the huge mistake. The international financiers & corporatists have had this “world control” agenda for decades, all hidden by the corporatist media until now, when it is becoming more blatant, and perceptible to more & more people. The Left also lust for control – it’s part of socialist DNA – but in this unholy alliance, the Left will lose, as their betrayal of the working class to Big Corp is becoming clear to the working man.

      • John Carins

        I think you are right. Corbyn and the left are being finessed. This is perhaps their greatest opportunity to deal a death blow to the Tories and to retrieve UKip voters. There again like rabbits in the headlights they are incredibly stupid. .

  • Sir Derek Trotter OBE

    Dodgy chicken dave is keen to enslave the English peasants into the German EU monster.

  • licjjs

    …..and it’s not a pretty sight.

  • Peter Stroud

    Hopefully the Conservative MPs will turn on Cameron and trigger a leadership election, after the referendum, whatever the result. I suggest this will be well supported by the rank and file.

    • sparrow-hawk

      And they’ll probably screw up again. William Hague, Michael Howard, and Cameron chosen, David Davis passed over TWICE.

  • Kennybhoy

    “Westminster has a tendency to get ahead of itself. MPs want to discuss the aftermath of an event long before it has happened. They play never-ending games of ‘What if?'”

    Nope. That wid’ be journalists and political commentators.

  • John Galt

    After Brexit goes down, Cameron will pay, when his deceit is exposed, by losing the then-forced election. In the end, though, Britain will pay doubly – remaining in the EU and being stuck with Labour once again.

    • Dexter vs Sinister

      That, in fact, would be a good camaigning topic.
      People are reluctant to talk about
      A the future of the Tory party after this, and the effect on this country after the next GE.
      B The real future intention of the EU: that which is being hidden and hardly discussed.

  • Marvin

    Because of his lack of logic, common sense, ignorance of the real world or even about his own citizens, he surrounds himself with the same type of cronies who only feed him what he wants to hear, because of all the inadequacies he resort to LYING.

  • davidshort10

    “Freed from normal election constraints, senior politicians are revealing what truly motives them”. This is a new verb for me.

  • Dexter vs Sinister

    I used to like Cameron.
    Now I utterly detest thec unt.
    I actually find I hate him more than Gordon Brown, which has taken some effort by him to achieve that sort of turnaround.

    • sparrow-hawk

      That’s an insult toc unts!

      • Dexter vs Sinister

        It is. I apologise to them.

  • antoncheckout

    What a waxwork. You wonder who has the daily job of polishing Cameron, buffing him up so he gives a good shine.
    And as with the Obama Yoof Greenwich staged event, you have to wonder at the amount of PR energy that went into the choice of faces put in vision to doughnut Cameron in the photos.

  • davidblameron

    The polls are looking grim for us, there’s everything still to work for, we must convince the waverers that outside the EU is safe.

    • Philip Fraser

      Do not believe the polls, remain are desperate, they are using every trick in the book now including issuing falsified polling results to make it look like they have it in the bag. Trust your instincts and what your own circle of workmates, friends, relatives, neighbours are saying ,and I am damn sure Remain is not flavour of the month shall we say. Keep your morale up, keep working hard to show to your own circle that we in Brexit do have public opinion behind us, keep your nerve now everyone, do not believe the Remain lies and Britain will win against this wicked globalist cabal. Remember how until so recently MSM here and Stateside were dismissing Trump, same scenario here.

      • davidblameron

        Almost everybody I know are putting their life on LEAVE, a few in my family circle are certs for staying in but you and I don’t know what is going through the minds of countless voters in this land. I am pessimistic until I hear the result.

        • The Reincarnated Sausage

          Same here. Almost everyone I know is an Outer

          They will definitely rig the result. It needs to be a landslide for them not to be able to fiddle it

          • davidblameron

            ‘they will definately rig the result’

            I don’t know who ‘they’ are but I don’t believe there will be any impropriety ; it couldn’t be kept secret.

          • The Reincarnated Sausage

            You’re kidding mate

            For a start, there’s the postal vote, and that is hugely open to corruption

            There’s always the “Thanet South” option too. Missing ballot boxes and the like

            As Stalin said, “It doesn’t matter who votes. It only matters who counts the votes.”

          • davidblameron

            I still don’t believe there will be any impropriety because if so, more than one person will need to know and it will not be able to stay secret indefinately, just one hintof it and it will never be able to rest peacefully. Good day.

      • sparrow-hawk

        Faking the polls in favour of Remain is an OWN GOAL. If anything, it will lull the indecisive but insecure enough to vote Remain into complacency, where their general apathy & inability to think much will make them think “can’t be bothered to vote, and anyway, my vote won’t matter, it’s all taken care of – we’re staying in”.

        • Dr. Heath

          A win for Remain will signal to Reichskanzler Juncker and others that British gauleiters are ready to join the euro and to start that all-important work on the formulation of a constitution for the United States of Europe. Not so much as an own goal but a dropping penny for British voters who actually believed the EU was all about phone tariffs and more box sets [or whatever the last, infantilising lie from the remainites was].

          • sparrow-hawk

            I’m referring to the current (faked) opinion polls, not the referendum.

      • The Reincarnated Sausage

        Totally agree about the polling

        The polling companies are not independent. They are politically motivated propaganda tools.

        Even the Leave campaign has been deliberately weak and fronted by Boris, a committed Europhile.

        The whole thing is a stinking rotten mess

        • Old Nick

          Remind me which polling company director Lady Ashton of the Ukraine is married to ?

      • Muttley

        For some reason, the media are promoting a poll which polled just 800 people and produced an anomalous 18 point majority for remain. When the same company produced a larger poll of 2,000 people, the gap reduced to the normal few points.

        • yeoman

          Cherchez Crosby.

    • WFC

      Interesting thing about the polls.

      The smaller the sample size, the more likely a large “Remain” lead.

      There also seems to be a distinct difference between telephone and online polls.

      See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum

    • WTF

      One can hope for the Trump effect which is many voters will not declare their true voting intentions (or they’ll lie) to pollsters because of the attacks from the opposite camp. Maybe they will vote in secret their true beliefs which will wrong foot Remain and the pollsters. Its entirely possible !

      • davidblameron

        I remember it in 1970, most people were inwardly convinced of a Labour victory, the bully boy trade union leaders gaining a grip on the country, voters were scared of saying they supported the Tories. The Tories won comfortably.
        Now, it could be voters are scared of being labelled ‘ fascist little Englander’ for wanting to LEAVE.

        • WTF

          A good case to ban postal votes for all reasons except for ex-pats or genuinely disabled people (registered at the DWP) as we all know what happens with intimidation of family members or wives who must obey their husbands. That’s how some Mayors get elected as we saw in Tower Hamlets or possibly even London !

          • davidblameron

            Postal voting is a necessary ‘evil’ (for want of a better word). In modern times, so many are away from their constituencies on genuine business or holidays abroad ; proxy voting is simply not practical like it was.
            If the system is properly regulated, there is nothing wrong with postal voting. I am confident there will be no impropriety in the referendum count, the only time in years I shall bother voting and I’ll be there 7a:m sharp.

  • Jab

    Is there such a thing as a real David Cameron?

  • The Reincarnated Sausage

    What we’ve learned about Cameron in the last month or so is that he hates his own nation and he is determined to see it destroyed finally and assimilated into the nascent totalitarian state of the EU

    He is a despicable traitor like almost all of those who preceded him, desperate to wipe out our island nation state. He’s in good company. Bliar, McRuin Broon, Major, Grocer Heath, a rogue’s gallery of closet “internationalists”

    God, I hope there is an uprising in this country

    • John Hawkins Totnes

      For more than 300 years there has been no serious uprising in the country. (Something that cannot be said about any other nation on earth.)
      But I fear that is about to change.

    • Muttley

      Personally, I’m just itching to (wo)man a barricade. I’ve started saving my wine bottles in case a certain kind of cocktail is required.

  • polidorisghost

    “Freed from normal election constraints, senior politicians are revealing what truly motives them”

    Pity they didn’t tell us earlier.

  • Pretty_Polly

    Hello,

    My name is David Cameron of Brussels and Panama and my aim is to destroy Britain as you know and love it.

    That is why I have admitted over 750,000 migrants and asylum seekers in the last 12 months alone, why I support Turkey’s entry into the EU and why I have done virtually nothing to stop illegals entering the country and remaining forever. I will of course repeat these policies this year and every year during my premiership.

    Up and down the country, I am told that my plans are working perfectly as people find they are becoming ‘Strangers Where They Live’ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/9831912/I-feel-like-a-stranger-where-I-live.html and I am delighted my Defence Minister, Michael Fallon, has told me that our towns and cities are being enrichingly ‘swamped with immigrants’ http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/26/british-towns-swamped-immigrants-michael-fallon-eu

    As the ‘Heir to Blair’ and Blairmore, I am proud to be continuing the pro immigration policies adopted by my close friends in the Labour Party and to be able to develop such ideas to extinguish ‘Britishness’ wherever it may be found. That is why I have abolished many of the planning rules in order to build huge anonymous new towns and cities in what was the monocultural and unenriched English countryside http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/16/plans-for-thousands-of-new-homes-threaten-green-belt-areas/

    I will soon be holding the long awaited confirmation of my views and opinions that Britain should remain an EU member forever and I will personally ensure that the Remain campaign is full of lies, threats and propaganda to obtain the highly desirable Remain outcome, thereby wiping the floor with a blonde haired mop. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson

    As you will understand from the foregoing, I am extremely excited about the forthcoming abolition of Britain and ‘Britishness’ by my friends in the European Union who have assured me that a new name has already been decided for these very small inconsequential islands..

    Consequently, to further the re-writing of British history and the destruction of British traditions, they have chosen ‘EU Sector North West’ which must now be written below your postcode or your mail will no longer be delivered.

    God Save The President of the EU Commission ! Rule Jean Claude Juncker !

    Yours sincerely

    David Cameron

    Governor General EU NW – Designate.

    • The Reincarnated Sausage

      He is a despicable traitor. I thought Blair and brown were bad. Cameron has exceeded all expectations, the worst PM ever

    • 100

      Polly.. you should be tweeting that?

      • Pretty_Polly

        Please tweet 🙂

    • The Reincarnated Sausage

      Yes. Can I share that?

      • Pretty_Polly

        Definitely 🙂

  • Aberrant_Apostrophe

    “What no one disputes is that the Prime Minister will find governing even harder after 23 June.”

    Especially if he is forced to resign after losing the Referendum.

  • MrBishi

    No leadership skills.
    No management skills.
    No vision.
    A stranger to the truth.
    I see nothing new there.

    • polidorisghost

      Nobody here is going to argue with that Mr Duck.

  • Michael H Kenyon

    The Conservatives made him their leader, so perhaps they should take responsibility for this odious, entitled opportunist and his obnoxious minions and vile Establishment pals? Maybe “The Spectator” should do more than “fluff” this mediocrity?

  • davidblameron

    I have become more aware of late that our Prime Minister is being disingenuous with us as regarding our EU membership.

  • evad666

    Conservative and Labour are both in thrall to the Cartel Politics of the EU.
    The Country has been held back for too long by class based politics.
    It is high time that the Political classes let the inhabitants of the UK free and followed the example of the Coalwood West Virginia based Big Creek Missile Agency as detailed in:-
    Rocket Boys by Homer Hickman ISBN 1-85702-990-9.
    Passport free EU travel can never be enough damn the ideology of the left and the greed of the right give us something to lift our souls.

  • WTF

    All its done is confirm he’s a lying SoB, nothing else !

    • Sargon the bone crusher

      No he has not.

      • WTF
        • Sargon the bone crusher

          The world is full to bursting with fools. Please do not point me in their – or your – direction.

          • WTF

            So you don’t think Cameron lied, is that it ?

          • Sargon the bone crusher

            You child.
            Every political decision helps some and damages others. Every political is pragmatic, lies when needed, responds to events and pressures as he or she thinks right.
            The vast army of immature idiots, like you, do not see that it is good that this happens; that it is required; that were re safer for it.

          • WTF

            So you’ve changed your post from Cameron doesn’t lie to he does when its politically expedient, that’s like asking is the pope catholic.

            Well the vast majority of ‘idiots’ in the electorate on both sides of the pond are now saying enough of this s***, we want change. I have no issue with politicians lying when its genuinely in the national interest but when they lie or cover up for embarrassment, being caught out or just protecting their political image I have a big issue with that.

            There’s been a gradual erosion of trust due to ‘cover ups’ like the Churchill Matrix business where Ministers gave a nod and a wink for ‘illegal’ exports, customs caught it, Ministers slapped a D notice to avoid being caught and directors were sent to jail. We still have the Chilcott Inquiry which is obviously being held back for political reasons and little to do with national security. There was the ‘cover up’ of the death of that WMD scientist and right now there’s a fight going on in America to release the findings of Saudi’s involvement in 9-11.

            If you give ministers or top politicians the ability to legitimately suppress items of national security, you’ll see over-reach creep where they use those powers for covering up sexual, financial and other scandals if they think they’ll get away with it. Its the nature of the beast and Cameron is no different.

          • Sargon the bone crusher

            Naive. Your explosion of faux irritation is naive.
            Life is about betrayal. We all do it. You do it. I do it. Everyone does it. We consume each other, then we die.
            To pretend otherwise is utterly dishonest.
            Cameron is trying to wriggle between conflicting groups and irreconcilable ideas.
            That is all.
            You are not wrong, or correct. You are just didactic. And nobody cares about that.

          • WTF

            Instead of all this BS why didn’t you just agree he’s a lying SoB like most establishment politicians are and they lie when and where its expedient to do so, there’s nothing wrong in agreeing with the truth !

          • Sargon the bone crusher

            I agree.
            He lies.
            You lie
            I lie
            We all Lie.
            Even Farage the Pure lies.

          • WTF

            Maybe Farage has lied but I’m not aware he’s been caught out lying unlike that serial liar Cameron, and before you mention those eastern Europeans migrants he said could overwhelm the UK, he said could not would !

          • sparrow-hawk

            This Troll is not worth your time and energy mate. He has no cogent reasoned responses; just airy dismissive generalities & ad hominen comments like “you child” and “immature idiot”. He’s almost certainly one of these:

            http://order-order.com/2014/02/27/eu-spends-2-million-on-trolling-online-euroscpetics/

          • WTF

            I guess I’ll add him to the other three trolls who post here, so that’s 4 trolls who do infantile insults and a brainless female who pops in posts like “We should stay because that’s best” and nothing else. I despair with these remainers as most refuse to debate or lack the ability to debate unlike Brexit.

          • jennybloggs

            In relation to your last paragraph, I understand that the EU have reached agreement with Facebook, Twitter, You Tube for those companies to police the internet on the EU’s behalf and for those companies to penalise those of their customers who do not think ‘correctly’ on such issues as race, homophobia etc. Does anybody know more about this? It sounds like the death of free speech.

          • Allegro vivace

            Utter BS.

          • Sargon the bone crusher

            As I say, you are an immature, angry little child. Wisdom and yourself are strangers one to the other.

          • CRSM

            Please god, save us from sophists.

          • sparrow-hawk

            EUSSR TROLL ALERT! TROLL ALERT!

          • CRSM

            None so blind as those who will not see.

  • Frank Natoli

    America fought a Civil War, in which 650,000 died, in a country with less than 10% of its present population, over the question of whether the northern half of the country could dictate the life of the southern half. Now Britain has the ability to peacefully secede, and thus escape the micro-management of the EU, and will apparently decline. Why?

    • Sargon the bone crusher

      So the south should have left????

      • CRSM

        And it would have done if Britain had given the confederates the support that they expected.

        • Sargon the bone crusher

          aaah
          What ifs.
          Political masturbation for the powerless and the left out.

    • JoeCro

      John Brown’s body lies mouldering in the ground. His soul goes marching on.

  • perdix

    It’s very normal for all the Brexit frothers on here to insult Cameron but fail to give any balance in their comments. Cameron said he would offer a Referendum and he’s provided it. Just because you think you are going to lose does not excuse the bile. Leaving the EU will have negative effect on the British economy for several years. This will impact on the next GE which will see Corbyn as PM. Be careful what you wish for!

    • John White

      He also said that he would vote for Brexit unless he got the reforms he wanted. He then toned down what he wanted, but still didn’t succeed in getting them. He then pretended that the totally unreformed EU had in fact been reformed. He and Osborne then promised everything from a recession to a plague of locusts if the British electorate vote to leave. Whatever happens in the referendum, Mr Cameron will never be trusted again, because he has taken the entire British electorate for fools.
      Leaving the EU may or may not have a negative effect on the British Economy, but there is a totally un-refuted argument that freedom from the overbearing EU regulations will have a benign effect on the British economy.
      However all this misses the point. Those who want Brexit, usually want it so that the British people can go back to making the majority of political and economic decisions for themselves, rather than having them made by an unaccountable EU elite, who with the best will in the world, rarely have British interests at heart, as the experience of the last 40-odd years shows in sharp relief.
      If you want to raise yet another bogey-man, this time of the risible Jeremy Corbyn being Prime Minister, it merely shows the desperate levels the “Remain” camps scare stories have reached.
      Be careful what you wish for indeed.

    • Tom Cullem

      The poster using the term “Brexit frothers” twits others for failing to give any balance. One wonders if s/he gets the irony.

      As the old saying has it, “The last thing a man sees is the beam in his own eye.”

      “Cameron said he would offer a Referendum and he’s provided it.”

      Yes – five years ago when he never thought the polls would be this close and he wanted to head off UKIP’s progress, and didn’t wager on voter anger for his incessant promises/failures on bringing down immigration, or the migrant crisis, and Merkel baring her claws and making it clear who is really running Europe as she opened the gates to Europe and then unilaterally cut that noxious deal with Turkey, now on the verge of collapse, he promised to offer a Referendum.

      Then, having offered said Referendum, brought back a farcical “renegotiation” package, and seeing a changed landscape in Europe and the polls, Cameron ten has gone on to paint it as a disaster along the combined lines of the Blitz, the Crash of 1929, and the asteroid that hit the earth and wiped out the dinosaurs . . .

      So he has rather made it clear that either he’s lying about what a disaster BREXIT is, or he offered UK voters a chance to bring disaster on Britain out of casual political expediency.

      Either way, Cameron deserves all the vitriol being hurled at him, and he will deserve the political blowback after he gets the REMAIN vote for an entity that cannot possibly survive long-term in its current configuration.

      • gillardgone

        He sure will get the heave ho, and we will remove ourselves from the EU.

    • Callan

      You and others like you, if you get your way and the country votes to remain will in years to come regret what you have done. The rest of us, our children and grandchildren will spend decades living with the consequences of your stupidity.

      • gillardgone

        If they cannot se this then they deserve what is coming down the track, and it ain’t pretty.

    • WTF

      Cameron had a shopping lists of electorate requests from the GE to put to Merkel & Juncker but watered it down and came back with nothing. What is unbalanced about that, its the truth !

    • Wonga.gov

      Fair point. The price of Brexit will be some years of economic uncertainty, but I believe the British Economy will rise like a phoenix from the ashes if we once again take control of our own affairs. I’d rather have that than continue down the road that the EU is taking us; slowly aesphyxiating enterprise and innovation with top down edicts concocted by unaccountable bureaucrats who haven’t the slightest clue about business. Better to have short-term uncertainty than the long-term certainty of mediocrity, protectionism and managed decline.

      • gillardgone

        We want our country back from the Mafiosi Run EU. Simple

      • Fish Fingers Of Doom

        That’s nice. You are willing to tank our economy for a few years because you don’t like rules about cucumbers. Brexit are so irresponsible it’s scary.

        • WTF

          Nothing to do with cucumbers but you can stick one where the sun doesn’t shine, curved or straight !

        • Allegro vivace

          Its not all about economics and cash tills. To some people sovereignty, culture, traditions and immigration are very important. A few years of economic hardship will be well worth the price. Let’s get out of this evil, corrupt, undemocratic EU.

        • sparrow-hawk

          Scary to a fearful eurozealot fanatic of course. TROLL, read my post above, and try to use your limited IQ to THINK about the issues. That is, if your eurofanaticism permits honest objective analysis, which judging by your other posts, apparently doesn’t.

        • Wonga.gov

          I don’t think you really understand what you are talking about when you say it will “tank our economy”. Let me put it simply for you; Bureaucracy is the enemy of innovation. Innovation is the engine of growth. Britain is one of the most innovative countries in the world. If we can demonstrate to the world that we and intent on becoming an innovative, enterprising, free marketeering nation, then the rest of the world will come to us. A short period of economic uncertainty will be followed by good economic growth. We do not need to rely on the protectionist racket that is the EU.

          I will tell you what is so irresponsible it’s scary; that people like you are so willing to give away our ability to take our own decisions, and to hold our decision makers accountable. These are responsibilities that our ancestors have fought died for us to keep. You’re so cowed by the condescending intimidation of the EU gangsters that you have lost faith in your own country to stand on it’s own two feet.

          You are advocating the continued one-way transfer of power to an undemocratic, unaccountable super-state, with it’s own political agenda, and you call Brexiters irresponsible!

    • gillardgone

      Leaving the EU will be the best thing this country has done in donkeys years, hope it happens, as for Corbyn ,UKIP kept the loons of the Labour Party out last time and they will again in 2020, No sane person would vote for the anti Semite racist party.

      • Space 1999

        UKIP came an often close second to Labour in around 85 constituencies last year, and nothing Corbyn has said or done will make him more attractive to traditional Daily Mirror reading working class Labour voters. Any possible General Election after the EU referendum is going to be great for UKIP, bad for Labour and might leave the Tories relatively unscathed – despite Cameron’s dead body being on the floor with a knife in his front! Boris will increase their majority…

    • sparrow-hawk

      Mass uncontrolled immigration is already destroying the South of England and our NHS, or perhaps you don’t notice, as you’re not directly affected.

      650,000 National Insurance numbers given FREE to foreigners in a single year (Office of National Statsitics figures):

      http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/02/25/650000-new-national-insurance-numbers-of-eu-migrants/

      Mass immigration (which exists NOWHERE ELSE ON PLANET EARTH – all 162 countries of it) is bringing the NHS to its knees:

      http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/02/09/britains-health-service-on-its-knees-thanks-to-mass-migration-says-cancer-specialist/

      Why are you so afraid to stand on your own two feet? The following free-standing countries don’t feel “isolated”, and don’t share any of your FEAR: Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Brazil, Argentina, Peru, Ecuador, Japan, S Korea, Thailand, India, Sri Lanka, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines etc etc…………and all except Japan are below Great Britain in the economic league. Britain is second only to the USA in terms of (popular cultural) global influence.

      We can accept any temporary economic hit. But apparently you cling to a corrupt totalitarian system that sh i t s on the people whenever they hold a referendum. eg Constitution/Lisbon Treaty:

      PEOPLE of France: 58% “NO!”
      PEOPLE of Holland: 63% “NO!”
      PEOPLE of Britain: cheated out of it. Blair cancelled referendum, saying “no need, treaty is now dead”
      PEOPLE of Ireland: “NO!” – forced to re-vote WITH AN ECONOMIC GUN HELD TO IRISH HEADS

      And you accept all of this? Shame on you. Show some intellectual courage, show some backbone. Stand up for Democracy and accountability.

  • Sargon the bone crusher

    Brett, like chocolate biscuits, seems attractive, but is not good for you.

  • Marathon-Youth

    One of the litany of problems regarding the European Union is cost.
    There are 7 Institutes in the European Union
    There are around 50 agencies in that Union
    Four Presidents
    Around 29 banks. Most are Central Banks with the European Union Central bank
    10 thousand people in the EU who earn more than David Cameron. or roughly 1 in 5 in the EU

    The United Kingdom alone pays around 50 million pounds per day to the EU. That is one set of problems
    then there are the 28 member nations of the EU and their individual governments that require tax money to run. If I am correct that means the average European, who is part of the EU, pays both for the “government” of the EU and the “government” of his or her own nation.

    • slyblade

      The EU is a anschluss ineptocracy unfit for purpose. Four president’s no one voted in or can vote out. Catherine Ashton First Vice President of the European Commission never elected to any position in any government. In 1979 we had 81 seats that’s down to 73 There has also been an even more noticeable decrease in the percentage of British
      Commissioners. In 1973, 15% of European Commissioners were British. Today only 4% are from the UK. Britain used to have two of thirteen Commissioners in Brussels. Today we only
      have one in twenty-eight. In addition, the House of Commons Foreign Affairs Committee has also has also warned that
      “the UK faces a serious problem with respect to its declining representation among EU staff”
      and pointed out that the number of UK nationals on the staff of the European Commission has fallen by 24% in seven years and now stands at 4.6% of total staff (compared to 9.7% for
      France).

    • Fish Fingers Of Doom

      The uk does not send 50 million a day to the eu. Sick and tired of Brexit mob and their lies. The correct figure is 23 million a day.

      • hobspawn

        “The correct figure is 23 million a day.”

        That’s actually quite good value. Only 23 million a day. Now that you put it that way, I’m in.

        • Callan

          Me too, given only 5 per cent of that and the total EU funding disappears into a corrupt black hole. To be fair Herr Juncker or one of his minions did deny the EU itself was corrupt but acknowledged some of the countries on which the EU bestows its munificence are themselves corrupt. Well that’s alright then.

      • Space 1999

        …as if that’s suddenly alright!

        “He didn’t try to run me over after he stabbed me in the neck, officer. He merely punched me in the face…”

  • WTF

    On both sides of the pond, political leaders and party machines have made grave errors of judgment due to their arrogance and now they are paying the price. The Republicans (and Dimocrats) viewed Trump as a joke and irrelevance but are having to eat their words 9 months on and similarly, Cameron treated UKIP and Brexit as swivel eyed loons and he’s having to eat his words too.

    Whatever the result in November on the GE in America, Trump has done a great service by exposing the ‘crooked’ system of rules for POTUS nominee selection on his side and that has triggered Saunders on the other side to expose even worse corrupt practices on the other side. In essence, the party selection process disenfranchised the people from deciding who would be nominee.

    Likewise, back in Europe thanks to UKIP & Brexit, people are now becoming more aware of the lack of transparency over who runs the EU, who drafts the laws and legislation, whether they are accountable, can they object, what it costs and the all important question of mass immigration. On both sides of the Atlantic people were foolish and naive to trust the ‘establishment’ with democracy as its been abused and hijacked by elite groups looking after themselves.

    Hopefully the winds of change will kick out all these anti-democracy elements and people will reclaim their universal suffrage to pick who they want in charge rather than have a party machine decide or some un-elected EU body.

    There is no hope for the EU to change as they are too set in their corrupt ways and refuse to give up power. Only by countries leaving one by one will true democracy return and then perhaps we can return to a friendly trading group once more without all this political acrimony !

  • Fish Fingers Of Doom

    David Cameron never gets enough credit. Sure he is no revolutionary but this is the man who won a Tory majority for the first time in ages saved the union and will now win the eu referendum thus preventing possible ww3 and a distarous pointless post Brexit economic downturn. His negotiations were poo pooed but were actually quite good considering we already have a special deal with eu. When he wins the referendum he will have public opinion on his side and if any of these disgruntled Brexit mp’s try to bring this country to it’s knees they will find themselves in an extremely exposed position.

    They better accept the result of this vote or Dave will knife them from a position of strength.

    • Bob3

      I hope that was tongue in cheek.

      • yeoman

        I don’t think so. Misguided, like the grammar – ‘…it’s knees’, punctuation and syntax errors, – hallmarks of an Eton education, perhaps.

        • Fish Fingers Of Doom

          It’s misguided(and sad) to think that anybody gives a stuff about grammar in an internet comments section. Basically you cannot stump me on anything I said because it’s all fact. Noted.

          • yeoman

            1. Clearly I was correct – you were not engaging in irony.
            2. People who care about grammar generally care about accuracy in general.
            3. I care about democracy. Herewith what EU leaders have said about the EU –

            Kenneth Clarke, Conservative Chancellor in International Currency Review Vol 23 No 4 1996
            “I look forward to the day when the Westminster Parliament is just a council chamber in Europe”

            Claud Cheysson, former French Foreign Minister and member of the European Commission:
            “The Europe of Maastricht could only have been created in the absence of democracy”

            Klaus Kinkel, German Foreign Minister
            “Politicians should have the courage to take decisions….against the will of the people”

            Raymonde Barre, French Prime Minister and Commissioner
            “I have never understood why public opinion about European ideas should be taken into account”

            Costas Verras, President of the Brussels Association of Journalists
            “The Commission acts like a military junta”

            M. Willy de Clerq, MEP
            “EC Governments should not try to explain the Maastricht Treaty. It is unexplainable. Treaty decisions are far too removed from daily life for people to understand”

            Why is Cameron keeping the UK in that, when he earlier promised to secure genuine reform or leave?

            Thank you for your post.

      • sparrow-hawk

        No. Not a word of it. He’s a serious EUSSR zealot. Check his other comments. Oops! Sorry you can’t ‘cos like all the other EU ideologue religious fanatics, he’s ashamed to show us his other comments! LOL.

    • JoeCro

      You can’t argue with his record. He crushed the Scottish separatists, won an overall majority and will shortly dispose of the brexiteers.

      • Fish Fingers Of Doom

        Exactly Joe. Well said.

        • WTF

          Shame you both got it wrong !

      • WTF

        Hardly a crushing, a 6% swing would have swung it the other way !

      • Rob74

        He couldn’t beat Gordon Brown outright.

      • Tom Cullem

        He didn’t “crush” the Scottish separatists – he scraped out a win that years earlier showed a much closer vote. It was the older vote that crushed the younger vote in the indy/ref, not Cameron’s histrionics. His majority was very small in the GE last year and owed as much to the calamity that was Miliband and Sturgeon’s clever strategy about “sharing power” with Labour.

        And he may or may not get the vote he wants on 23 June, but even if he does, the Tories will bleed voters to UKIP as is happening with Labour and as the EU afterward starts rolling out its new legislation, Cameron will not be able to convince the public that he campaigned for IN without knowing what the EU’s next steps will be.

    • WTF

      1/ A slim majority and he couldn’t even manage that first time around despite Gordon Brown and the collapse of the banks in 2008. Any half decent Tory PM should have walked in with a big majority after Browns but Cameron had to get the LibDumbs to support him and look how that turned out.

      2/ Saved the Union ? That was a close call even after bribing everyone north of the border.

      3/ The EU is doomed anyway and to stay on board a sinking ship is crazy.

      These are the facts, not your remain propaganda !

      • Sargon the bone crusher

        Your swastika flag is an obscenity, as are you.

        • WTF

          Just a reflection of what the EU has become, I’ll leave it to you to pick your preference from its 12000 year old history.

          http://www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends/symbol-swastika-and-its-12000-year-old-history-001312

        • Rob74

          Ad hominem attacks are a sign of a moron with nothing to say. I’m sure you knew that though.

          • Roger Hudson

            He probably didn’t.

        • sparrow-hawk

          And you are a TROLL.

        • Tom Cullem

          Agreed on the swastika but he happens to be right. Cameron ended up bribing the Jocks with Devo Max, which the canny Salmond offered as a third ballot option when the polls showed the YES vote around 20% – Cameron imperiously refused. Came the day, the polls were within 10% of each other and Cameron and Broon had to rush up there and offer . . . Devo Max – which, so far as I know, they have not followed through with.

          And the EU is doomed in its current state unless it can truly consolidate total power and create the EU superstate it has been creeping toward. It simply cannot continue in its current configuration indefinitely. UK citizens are voting on something that will either swallow the UK up within 10 years or collapse if it cannot reach the Federal status it craves.

      • gunnerbear

        The expenses scandal wrecked all the political parties….without that I agree, the Blues should’ve walked it….but the exe’s scandal shot all the parties to pieces….

        • WTF

          True, just another factor that damns the elite establishment of all parties.

    • Allegro vivace

      What are you on?

      • sparrow-hawk

        Check his other comments. Oh dear, you can’t, he keeps them secret. He’s on……religious leftwing ideology in which the EUSSR is the golden perfect wonderful future for Europe, and the tooth fairy and Santa Claus are his best mates.

    • gillardgone

      Yes he does he gets credit for being deceitful, Trecherious and a host of other nasty things I can’t be bother to list, awfull prime minister.

  • Lady Magdalene

    Yes, and what an arrogant, nasty, deceitful piece of work he is.

    Flashman personified.

  • John Andrews

    I have not learned to hate Cameron yet – but I’m working on it. He seems more like a man with no principles than a genuine baddie.

    • Castro Spendlove

      Exactly, he reminds me so much of Tony Blair; both have hollowed out their parties of principles.

      • Old Nick

        More character than Blair surely. The Fat Lady who was a young barrister with Blair spoke of the ‘awful blank look behind his [Blair’s] eyes as he tries to work out who he needs to please next’ – all arising from a wonky theology which defines Christian charity as being a doormat and letting the other fellow have his way (from a watered-down version of the philosophy of J. MacMurray), with disastrous results when the other fellows were Bush, Cheney, Ashcroft, Rumsfeld et al.. There is more fire in Cameron’s eyes, even if it flickers only with the chameleon colouring of a PR man.

    • sparrow-hawk

      Please hurry up! We’re waiting patiently.

    • Trailblazer10

      He follows a cult. He is unswerving in his fanatical belief that Britishness must be erased and that white British must become a marginalised minority in their own homeland.

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3613682/RIP-Britain-academic-objectivity-Oxford-Professor-DAVID-COLEMAN-one-country-s-population-experts-says-white-Britons-minority-late-2060s-sooner-current-immigration-trends-continue.html#comments

    • gillardgone

      A very slow learner then.

      • John Andrews

        I plead guilty – and beg for clemency.

  • MummyofPrudence

    Here are Peter Oborne’s thoughts on the ‘real David Cameron’. This is how he was revealed by the General Election, though, not the Referendum. I hope I will not be reading about this sort of thing a year on from June 23rd but I am pretty sure I will be, given the despicable nature of the man Cameron.

    “David Cameron has strongly denied claims that the Tory Party has broken the law by over-spending on General Election expenses.
    Meanwhile, party officials have hired an expensive QC in an attempt to block Kent Police from investigating election over-spending in the South Thanet constituency where the party put in a huge effort to thwart Ukip’s Nigel Farage.
    The lawyer, James Laddie, of Matrix Chambers, argued that the police investigation should be halted on the basis of a technicality — namely that the time limit for prosecutions has expired. This is a disgraceful state of affairs.

    On the one hand, Mr Cameron is insisting the Tories have done nothing wrong.
    Yet on the other, his party chairman crony chum Lord Feldman’s officials are trying to halt an investigation.
    If the Tories are blameless, as Mr Cameron says, he has nothing to be afraid of.
    If he is wrong and the law was broken, it is a very serious matter indeed.
    Either way, it is essential that the police investigation should continue”

    • Callan

      Matrix? Yes that would be right.

  • terence patrick hewett

    I think the decline and decadence of western society is a direct result of the decline of the wooden ruler. And of course its associates: blotting paper, ink wells and dip-in-pens. The wooden ruler to the inky shining faced schoolboy going unwillingly to school makes a delightful twang when played off the desk. They make great ballistae to project inky missiles upon enemies and friends alike. And the gentle administrations of Giles’ Chalky White when we were caught taught us that life was not fair.

    Our wooden rulers had their faults but the plastic rulers which have replaced them break so easily.

    • sparrow-hawk

      Exactly! An issue which has been ignored by our corrupt and apathetic leaders for decades! And you can add blotting paper to that too. “Got any blodge?” was a common whispered cry during my maths class back in the day, and semi-inked scraps of this wonderful stuff were passed back & forth, when sharing “blodge” & twanging rulers were de rigeur.

      And it’s hard to carve your name on a plastic ruler, then fill in the gouge with ink, to make a really proud-looking possession.

      Today’s education system knows none of these marvels any more; no wonder we are sliding down the international education tables.

  • Owen_Morgan

    “But no one yet knows what qualities those members will be looking for in their next leader.”

    Any quality would be a start.

  • Pretty_Polly

    Unfortunately, thanks to mass immigration which the British never wanted, there are millions of people voting in the referendum who are not ‘one of us’, and consequently they are unlikely to care about Britain.

    • Morseman

      That is not correct; only British, Irish and Commonwealth citizens are qualified to vote in the EU referendum.

      • Pretty_Polly

        So?

        • Morseman

          Perhaps I misunderstood your point; I thought you were referring to EU migrants.

      • Bertie

        Malta? Cyprus?

        Expats who have lived overseas for 10-15 years?

        • Morseman

          Yes; but I was responding to a different point from Pretty Polly.

  • Jojje 3000

    Mr Cameron obviously has some political credit from landing the GE, and then assuming a win for Remain he will be able to rearrange the party as he wishes . Some among the Tories elite might be thinking about this.

    • gillardgone

      Get real it was milliband who won the cons the last election and UKIP for taking 4 million votes away from the lot of the old dinosaur party’s. UKIP will continue to keep them with a very small majority with luck. BREXIT to get your country back.

  • MikeF

    I see that David Cameron has hailed Sadiq Khan as a ‘proud Muslim’. Would he have hailed anyone else as a ‘proud Jew’ or ‘proud Catholic’ or ‘proud evangelical Protestant’? I doubt it somehow. Anyhow that has finished David Cameron in my eyes. The Prime Minister of this country should not be pandering to multiculturalist sectarianism and with those words he has rendered himself unfit for the office he holds. As Oliver Cromwell said at another time: “You have sat too long for any good you have been doing lately. Depart, I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go.”

    • johnb1945

      Eejit.

    • G B

      If you cast your mind back David Cameron said he was looking forward to the time when Britain would have its first Muslim Prime Minister. Ordinarily this might cause no harm except for the fact that the unreformed Islamic faith holds that all non-Muslims who fail to convert should be killed.

  • outlawState

    I claim no special powers of insight but since the “I am the heir to Blair” remark to newspaper executives (3 October 2005), it has always been obvious to me that he is vain, shallow, intellectually and morally feeble, lazy, unbelieving, hypocritical, disingenuous etc etc.

    • hobspawn

      In fact, the bequeath of Heath.

  • The PrangWizard of England

    A couple of weeks ago, Cameron was shouting in the Commons criticising Khan’s association with terrorism and terrorists through his sharing public platforms with subversive and extremely unsavoury individuals.

    Yesterday he was applauding and praising Khan.

    What does that tell anyone with a brain about Cameron?

    The man gets more odious by the day. No-one can believe anything he says. He is without principle, or honour. He cares nothing about the people of this country or the future of the country; he thinks only of himself, his own image and whatever he thinks will gain him popularity and praise. He is a user and betrayer; he betrays everyone in the end.

    He must be removed from Office as soon as possible along with all members of his elitist clique. After we are out of the EU, we can get some true Conservatives who will restore our lost freedoms.

    • sebastian2

      Cameron’s credibility has now all but evaporated. This has created an exhausting predicament as he struggles frantically to halt the evaporation whilst strenuously still bending the truth.

  • gerronwithit

    Every time I see Caneron I have this urge to check my taps as I get this sense of something dripping wet.and Osborne cones over as a man full of blind arrogance rather than any conviction.

  • Bonce

    Cameron has always been in politics for one reason and one reason only- for power.
    He is the heir to Blair, except for the fact that Blair is far more intelligent and a better Liar than he ever was. Blair actually had many intelligent people fooled for a while- many people were never fooled by Call me Dave.

    • Tim Conte

      Unlike Boris Johnson of course. He’s only ever been in politics for fun.

      • enoch arden

        Boris proved to be able to make a career otherwise. He was a successful journalist and a writer. Cameron is a professional politician: he has never earned money by working.

  • morecakeplease

    ‘What no one disputes is that the Prime Minister will find governing even harder after 23 June.’

    I expect he will from his kitchen in Oxfordshire,

  • Sean L

    Yes a complete charlatan.

  • ohforheavensake

    Just catching up with this one- good article.

  • Pretty_Polly

    Hello,

    My name is David Cameron of Brussels and Panama and my aim is to destroy Britain as you know and love it.

    That is why I have admitted over 750,000 migrants and asylum seekers in the last 12 months alone, why I support Turkey’s entry into the EU and why I have done virtually nothing to stop illegals entering the country and remaining forever. I will of course repeat these policies this year and every year during my premiership.

    Up and down the country, I am told that my plans are working perfectly as people find they are becoming ‘Strangers Where They Live’ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/9831912/I-feel-like-a-stranger-where-I-live.html and I am delighted my Defence Minister, Michael Fallon, has told me that our towns and cities are being enrichingly ‘swamped with immigrants’ http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/26/british-towns-swamped-immigrants-michael-fallon-eu

    As the ‘Heir to Blair’ and Blairmore, I am proud to be continuing the pro immigration policies adopted by my close friends in the Labour Party and to be able to develop such ideas to extinguish ‘Britishness’ wherever it may be found. That is why I have abolished many of the planning rules in order to build huge anonymous new towns and cities in what was the monocultural and unenriched English countryside http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/16/plans-for-thousands-of-new-homes-threaten-green-belt-areas/

    I will soon be holding the long awaited confirmation of my views and opinions that Britain should remain an EU member forever and I will personally ensure that the Remain campaign is full of lies, threats and propaganda to obtain the highly desirable Remain outcome, thereby wiping the floor with a blonde haired mop. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson

    As you will understand from the foregoing, I am extremely excited about the forthcoming abolition of Britain and ‘Britishness’ by my friends in the European Union who have assured me that a new name has already been decided for these very small inconsequential islands..

    Consequently, to further the re-writing of British history and the destruction of British traditions, they have chosen ‘EU Sector North West’ which must now be written below your postcode or your mail will no longer be delivered.

    God Save The President of the EU Commission ! Rule Jean Claude Juncker !

    Yours sincerely,

    David Cameron

    Governor General EU NW – Designate.

  • Uusikaupunki

    “Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them….well, I have others.”

    Groucho Marx David Cameron

  • James Chilton

    There’s no such person as the “real” David Cameron. He’s a phoney right down to the sub-atomic level where the uncertainty principle kicks in.

  • AlexanderGalt

    No doubt David Cameron like Macbeth calculates that he’s so far into lies that a few more won’t hurt.

    He also knows that there is a plum job waiting for him in Brussels as long as Brexit is defeated. In short he’s willing to betray the British people with lies about the reality of lost sovereignity for a comfortable future. Despicable behaviour.

    The Brexit issue isn’t even close to being a difficult choice. Who wouldn’t choose to be independent and hold law-makers responsible for their actions? And if independence isn’t for you, who would want to be part of such a failed would be super-state stumbling from crisis to crisis.

    Only lies can win this for Remain: http://bit.ly/1TWaiKm

    • Arron Blue

      Presumably you mean Shakespeare’s Macbeth; not the actual Macbeth, King of Scots.

      • AlexanderGalt

        I thought the following words made the reference clear

  • NickG

    in and of itself

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…..vomit!

    • Thank god! I thought I must be the only one who hates this smart-bum phrase.

  • Faulkner Orkney

    It’s just dawning on me that perhaps the missing Liberal-Democrats have in fact somehow housed themselves in Cameron’s body and are controlling him from within…

    • Sarony

      I think I’ll opt for the parasitic wasps.

  • yeoman

    ‘David Cameron has said the EU should extend its membership deeper into the former Soviet Union, calling for its borders to run from the Atlantic to the Urals.
    ‘Speaking in the former Soviet republic of Kazakhstan on the day that former Yugoslav republic Croatia became the EU’s 28th member state, the prime minister hailed the power of the EU to transform divided societies.’ Guardian, 1 July 2013.

    No wonder Putin is jumpy.

  • Freeuk Militia

    The Declaration of Right was imposed upon William and Mary as a condition of their assuming the Crown – in other words, they would only be elected by the People if they accepted its terms. The Declaration of Right, and the Bill of Rights, clearly state that -no foreign prince, person, prelate, state, or potentate hath, or ought to have, any jurisdiction, power, superiority, pre-eminence, or authority, ecclesiastical or spiritual, within this realm. what does this mean to you and what are you going to do about it

  • Guildford UKIP

    I recall the words of the splendidly outspoken Godfrey Bloom, MEP, who on first encountering the young Cameron in Brussels thought, “What an appallingly vacuous, pigeon-chested young man!”

    Nothing this product of privilege has done or said since has caused me to stop agreeing with Godders.

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